June 18, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) This has Never Added Up/Hard to Police Common Sense/Some Things Aren't Really an Accident/What Is Art? And Can I See It?/Bell Ban Blunder
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am being hardware looking back
at Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Should we make.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Life checkets compulsory or more to the point, did you
realize that they weren't?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Should we run it straight compulsory? Oh no, hang on,
why are we talking about this again? Art Talk with
the afternoon show.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
To hang around for that and the Big cow Bell Band.
But before any of that, the Census.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
What's the point of it exactly?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Don't they already have all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
On for Hey? Do you know what?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm not going to miss the Census? I mean, if
there was anything that showed how bad government can be
at embracing technology, the Census wasn't it. I Mean, this
is a time where governments collect huge amounts of electronic
data about you, and then they asked you to fill
out a paper form and send it in and just
tell them all that stuff all over again. They already
(01:21):
know what you're earning. ID has that they already know
how many babies we're having, how many of us are dying,
how many of us are getting hitched, birth deaths and
marriages have that They already know how many of us
are leaving the country, how many of us are coming
into the country. They collect that too. They know how
many one to three bedroom houses are out there that's
being collected. And yet they were asking us to tell
(01:42):
them that all over again every five years. That made
that all exercise a giant waste of money, didn't it?
When you think that they already had the data and
then they asked you to repeat it. Wasn't that a
giant waste of money? The last one cost US three
hundred and twenty five million dollars. The next one was
going to cost US four hundred million dollars. Now, I
accept that there is information that we will lose by
(02:04):
scrapping the census, because as far as I know, no
government department collects them on how many languages you speak,
or what your sexuality is, or what your first language is,
or how many people live in your house. We're not
going to be able to know that stuff is easily now, right,
So I accept that there will be some stuff that's incomplete,
But we already have an incomplete set of data, don't
(02:24):
we because the huge numbers of us, because of rather
the huge numbers of us who haven't filled it in.
In twenty eighteen, we didn't count one in six kiwis.
That's not complete at all. So either way, we're not
going to know everything except one way was going to
cost US four hundred million dollars, wasn't it. Scrapping the
census was long overdue.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Certainly in its current form it seems inefficient and ridiculous,
And I'm sick of people kind of get me to
commit to any ethnicity that don't really identify as anything,
and that doesn't seem to be an option.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So I certainly want it to go away. Anyway, used
talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
To be honest, I you're not even telling them what
gender I am because that seems pointless. As well be gears.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But let's move on to the lifejacket debate. Is it
even a debate? Why aren't people wearing them? Is this
just seat belts all over again?
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Sticking your head out the window and thinking, oh, good day,
for it is not the same as checking the marine forecast.
You need to know what the weather's going to be like,
not just now, but in a few hours. Hence, you know,
I know, we know that there needs to be a
(03:46):
way to call for help. Putting all the cell phones
in one spot underneath the boat the deck of the
boat means that you've got no way to call for
help if the boat tips over. You don't have to
understand much about boating to know that having a working
marine radio crazy, But there we go. You know you
(04:11):
can call for help, you know, I know, And we
know that alcohol and water do not mix. So any
kind of rules and licenses aren't going to bother the
true skippers, but maybe it will weed out the stupid
and the criminally cavalier.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
A bit of an issue with all this stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's a bit harder to police things out on the
water than it is on the roads. There aren't so many,
you know, like speed cameras. You can't just tack where
everybody goes past. Yeah, that's a hard I mean, don't
get me wrong. I'm not saying it's not a good idea.
It's definitely a good idea. But I just don't know
(04:56):
how you get people to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Why don't want to do it?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And if people are too stupid to do it. Then
maybe it's you know, survival of the first although you know,
if the I are responsible for kids and stuff like, Oh,
it's so complicated, let's move on. Hu's talk save to
speaking of people doing stupid things, and then he could
do stupid things. Is Branbridge trying to make this another
(05:22):
week of running straight? I thought we'd sort it all this.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
The reaction from some rugby stars and sporting legends was
a bit more nuanced, for obvious reasons, because they also
run full steam ahead at one another of a Saturday,
with great risk of personal injury and even death, certainly
the chance of broken bones and a concussion on a
rugby field. They do this because A they enjoy it.
(05:45):
B it's often all they've ever known, and c presumably
because it pays well. And that's the problem of the
outrage over run it straight. They had a guy in
the news yesterday who won twenty thousand dollars in trials
held in Auckland. He's now booked on a spot in
final in Dubai. The money, he says, these are his words,
(06:05):
putting clothes on his kid's back. He said that we
got to pay off some debts to stock up the
fridges and the cupboards food for our little ones. Especially
with the economy of the way it is in New Zealand,
nothing's cheap these days. He saw this as a couple
of hours work with a huge payday. And I happen
to think if somebody wants to play a high risk
(06:26):
sport like rugby or UFC or anything on horses, then
good on them to their life. I'm not here to
judge the question for the rest of society, and this
is what our listeners most often email me about when
it comes to run it straight is acc To qualify
for acc your injury must be the result of an accident.
(06:49):
An accident is basically something you didn't intend to happen,
happening a mistake. Run it straight is bloody dangerous, but
I think ultimately its injuries are accidents like rugby, like
horse riding. The system doesn't judge based on the threat
(07:12):
of injury, just whether it's an accidental one or not.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, this is a good point, and it does annoy
me when people do deliberately do dangerous things and still
get acc because really I think there are certain things
like getting on a bike and hurtling yourself, hurling yourself
down a hill. I think you should be made decide
(07:38):
to sign an acc waiver at that point. So I
think Ryan and I are lined up on that one set. Okay,
So we're just going to very quickly answer an easy question.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
What is art?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
I'd like to see the astronomy astronomer you know that
picture as Johann Vmier. Just look that's in the louver.
It's it's a fantastic painting.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Yeah, anyway, I mean it's all the influences, isn't it.
Let's let's be honest here when it comes to the
Mona Lisa although young people and that's all the only
reason they go into the louver is to get a
picture in front of the moment Lisa post it up
on Instagram, get their likes and say that there aren't connoisseurs.
And I think that's what's upsetting the staff at the loover.
I can understand that.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I mean, how ironic is that you've got an amazing
piece of art that the pure and utter narcissism, narcissism
and vacuous nature of you obscuring a piece of genius
to take a picture of yourself in front of it
for likes. You are literally obscuring part of something absolutely
genius for a photo of yourself. Anyone that does that
(08:43):
is that they need to look inside their soul and
find out if there's anything in it.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
You're a bad human.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So Matt, Yeah, strong feelings about the overcrowding at the louver.
Apparently the things move slowly in Europe, don't they Like
they've only just sort of figured out that the glass
pyramid entrance way thing works like a glasshouse in somewhere,
and everybody gets a bit hot. I would have thought
(09:10):
that would have been apparent pretty much as soon as
it opened.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But yes, not news talk.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Are you absolutely fizzing at the bung about the Super
Rugby Final this weekend?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I mean, how many Chief supporters are going down there? Anyway?
The cow what's this cowbell band about? It's very strange.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
No.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
I said to my kids, I said, we've got to
watch the Super Ragby Final because they've banned cowbells. And
they said, why does the Whekado team have cowbells? I
thought that was an extremely good question, because I said, well, actually,
and I thought, and I thought, and I thought, I thought, well, actually,
(09:53):
I think cowbells are from Switzerland. When you see the
cows into the hills and they're free roaming, which is
certainly not what the cows and the wheadle are. They're fenced.
So it makes me wonder why they ever had cow
bells as their symbol, because I think it's some ways
it's an accurate symbol, and an accurate symbol they need
(10:14):
something more appropriate. So yeah, I've been thinking about that
a bit today as well. With cow bells. By the way,
I think the ban is absolutely ridiculous, and being someone
that was impartial on our very much support Wakao, I
think it's extremely small minded. Although I heard someone say
(10:38):
they reckon the only reason they band the cowbells is
because it'll be too noisy and the people in Kantary
won't be able to ask each other which school they
went to, which is what they do there apparently. Oh
eight hundred eighty tatty and nineteen ninety two to text year.
Oh goodness, me, boy, oh boy. I'd go in the
night before and dig it into the ground jup as creepers,
(11:00):
how fin skinned. And I know we like our sporting parochialism. However,
to me, that's just too full on.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It just makes you look weak, doesn't it. Trying to.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Do something like that, you're just drawing more attention to
it than that otherwise would have got. I would have
thought anyway, that won't make any difference. The Chiefs will
win that easily. I think everybody will be surprised at
how easily they win, and then they won't really talk
about the Chiefs at all. They'll talk about the how
the Crusaders let themselves down, and then the season of
(11:41):
Super Rugby will could be completely forgotten, even though it
was for the most part dominated by the Chiefs. Because
that's how it works. We are the invisible team of
Super Rugby, no matter. Yeah, that's how third consecutive final. Yeah,
Crusaders went there last year saying I am Glenn Hart.
(12:04):
That was it has been his stort, said thing, we've
got what podcast I was doing there for a minute.
You know what, I think we should have a long weekend.
I'll see you back here again on Monday with a
weekend edition. It might even be a long weekend edition.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Used talking Talking Zaid Bean for more from us Talk
said b listen live on air or online and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio,
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First with yesterday's news, I am being hardware looking back
at Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Should we make.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Life checkets compulsory or more to the point, did you
realize that they weren't?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Should we run it straight compulsory? Oh no, hang on,
why are we talking about this again? Art Talk with
the afternoon show.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
To hang around for that and the Big cow Bell Band.
But before any of that, the Census.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
What's the point of it exactly?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Don't they already have all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
On for Hey? Do you know what?
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I'm not going to miss the Census? I mean, if
there was anything that showed how bad government can be
at embracing technology, the Census wasn't it. I Mean, this
is a time where governments collect huge amounts of electronic
data about you, and then they asked you to fill
out a paper form and send it in and just
tell them all that stuff all over again. They already
(01:21):
know what you're earning. ID has that they already know
how many babies we're having, how many of us are dying,
how many of us are getting hitched, birth deaths and
marriages have that They already know how many of us
are leaving the country, how many of us are coming
into the country. They collect that too. They know how
many one to three bedroom houses are out there that's
being collected. And yet they were asking us to tell
(01:42):
them that all over again every five years. That made
that all exercise a giant waste of money, didn't it?
When you think that they already had the data and
then they asked you to repeat it. Wasn't that a
giant waste of money? The last one cost US three
hundred and twenty five million dollars. The next one was
going to cost US four hundred million dollars. Now, I
accept that there is information that we will lose by
(02:04):
scrapping the census, because as far as I know, no
government department collects them on how many languages you speak,
or what your sexuality is, or what your first language is,
or how many people live in your house. We're not
going to be able to know that stuff is easily now, right,
So I accept that there will be some stuff that's incomplete,
But we already have an incomplete set of data, don't
(02:24):
we because the huge numbers of us, because of rather
the huge numbers of us who haven't filled it in.
In twenty eighteen, we didn't count one in six kiwis.
That's not complete at all. So either way, we're not
going to know everything except one way was going to
cost US four hundred million dollars, wasn't it. Scrapping the
census was long overdue.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Certainly in its current form it seems inefficient and ridiculous,
And I'm sick of people kind of get me to
commit to any ethnicity that don't really identify as anything,
and that doesn't seem to be an option.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
So I certainly want it to go away. Anyway, used
talk has it been?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
To be honest, I you're not even telling them what
gender I am because that seems pointless. As well be gears.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But let's move on to the lifejacket debate. Is it
even a debate? Why aren't people wearing them? Is this
just seat belts all over again?
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Sticking your head out the window and thinking, oh, good day,
for it is not the same as checking the marine forecast.
You need to know what the weather's going to be like,
not just now, but in a few hours. Hence, you know,
I know, we know that there needs to be a
(03:46):
way to call for help. Putting all the cell phones
in one spot underneath the boat the deck of the
boat means that you've got no way to call for
help if the boat tips over. You don't have to
understand much about boating to know that having a working
marine radio crazy, But there we go. You know you
(04:11):
can call for help, you know, I know, And we
know that alcohol and water do not mix. So any
kind of rules and licenses aren't going to bother the
true skippers, but maybe it will weed out the stupid
and the criminally cavalier.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
A bit of an issue with all this stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's a bit harder to police things out on the
water than it is on the roads. There aren't so many,
you know, like speed cameras. You can't just tack where
everybody goes past. Yeah, that's a hard I mean, don't
get me wrong. I'm not saying it's not a good idea.
It's definitely a good idea. But I just don't know
(04:56):
how you get people to do it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Why don't want to do it?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And if people are too stupid to do it. Then
maybe it's you know, survival of the first although you know,
if the I are responsible for kids and stuff like, Oh,
it's so complicated, let's move on. Hu's talk save to
speaking of people doing stupid things, and then he could
do stupid things. Is Branbridge trying to make this another
(05:22):
week of running straight? I thought we'd sort it all this.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
The reaction from some rugby stars and sporting legends was
a bit more nuanced, for obvious reasons, because they also
run full steam ahead at one another of a Saturday,
with great risk of personal injury and even death, certainly
the chance of broken bones and a concussion on a
rugby field. They do this because A they enjoy it.
(05:45):
B it's often all they've ever known, and c presumably
because it pays well. And that's the problem of the
outrage over run it straight. They had a guy in
the news yesterday who won twenty thousand dollars in trials
held in Auckland. He's now booked on a spot in
final in Dubai. The money, he says, these are his words,
(06:05):
putting clothes on his kid's back. He said that we
got to pay off some debts to stock up the
fridges and the cupboards food for our little ones. Especially
with the economy of the way it is in New Zealand,
nothing's cheap these days. He saw this as a couple
of hours work with a huge payday. And I happen
to think if somebody wants to play a high risk
(06:26):
sport like rugby or UFC or anything on horses, then
good on them to their life. I'm not here to
judge the question for the rest of society, and this
is what our listeners most often email me about when
it comes to run it straight is acc To qualify
for acc your injury must be the result of an accident.
(06:49):
An accident is basically something you didn't intend to happen,
happening a mistake. Run it straight is bloody dangerous, but
I think ultimately its injuries are accidents like rugby, like
horse riding. The system doesn't judge based on the threat
(07:12):
of injury, just whether it's an accidental one or not.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, this is a good point, and it does annoy
me when people do deliberately do dangerous things and still
get acc because really I think there are certain things
like getting on a bike and hurtling yourself, hurling yourself
down a hill. I think you should be made decide
(07:38):
to sign an acc waiver at that point. So I
think Ryan and I are lined up on that one set. Okay,
So we're just going to very quickly answer an easy question.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
What is art?
Speaker 7 (07:53):
I'd like to see the astronomy astronomer you know that
picture as Johann Vmier. Just look that's in the louver.
It's it's a fantastic painting.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Yeah, anyway, I mean it's all the influences, isn't it.
Let's let's be honest here when it comes to the
Mona Lisa although young people and that's all the only
reason they go into the louver is to get a
picture in front of the moment Lisa post it up
on Instagram, get their likes and say that there aren't connoisseurs.
And I think that's what's upsetting the staff at the loover.
I can understand that.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I mean, how ironic is that you've got an amazing
piece of art that the pure and utter narcissism, narcissism
and vacuous nature of you obscuring a piece of genius
to take a picture of yourself in front of it
for likes. You are literally obscuring part of something absolutely
genius for a photo of yourself. Anyone that does that
(08:43):
is that they need to look inside their soul and
find out if there's anything in it.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
You're a bad human.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
So Matt, Yeah, strong feelings about the overcrowding at the louver.
Apparently the things move slowly in Europe, don't they Like
they've only just sort of figured out that the glass
pyramid entrance way thing works like a glasshouse in somewhere,
and everybody gets a bit hot. I would have thought
(09:10):
that would have been apparent pretty much as soon as
it opened.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But yes, not news talk.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Are you absolutely fizzing at the bung about the Super
Rugby Final this weekend?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
I mean, how many Chief supporters are going down there? Anyway?
The cow what's this cowbell band about? It's very strange.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
No.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
I said to my kids, I said, we've got to
watch the Super Ragby Final because they've banned cowbells. And
they said, why does the Whekado team have cowbells? I
thought that was an extremely good question, because I said, well, actually,
and I thought, and I thought, and I thought, I thought, well, actually,
(09:53):
I think cowbells are from Switzerland. When you see the
cows into the hills and they're free roaming, which is
certainly not what the cows and the wheadle are. They're fenced.
So it makes me wonder why they ever had cow
bells as their symbol, because I think it's some ways
it's an accurate symbol, and an accurate symbol they need
(10:14):
something more appropriate. So yeah, I've been thinking about that
a bit today as well. With cow bells. By the way,
I think the ban is absolutely ridiculous, and being someone
that was impartial on our very much support Wakao, I
think it's extremely small minded. Although I heard someone say
(10:38):
they reckon the only reason they band the cowbells is
because it'll be too noisy and the people in Kantary
won't be able to ask each other which school they
went to, which is what they do there apparently. Oh
eight hundred eighty tatty and nineteen ninety two to text year.
Oh goodness, me, boy, oh boy. I'd go in the
night before and dig it into the ground jup as creepers,
(11:00):
how fin skinned. And I know we like our sporting parochialism. However,
to me, that's just too full on.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It just makes you look weak, doesn't it. Trying to.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Do something like that, you're just drawing more attention to
it than that otherwise would have got. I would have
thought anyway, that won't make any difference. The Chiefs will
win that easily. I think everybody will be surprised at
how easily they win, and then they won't really talk
about the Chiefs at all. They'll talk about the how
the Crusaders let themselves down, and then the season of
(11:41):
Super Rugby will could be completely forgotten, even though it
was for the most part dominated by the Chiefs. Because
that's how it works. We are the invisible team of
Super Rugby, no matter. Yeah, that's how third consecutive final. Yeah,
Crusaders went there last year saying I am Glenn Hart.
(12:04):
That was it has been his stort, said thing, we've
got what podcast I was doing there for a minute.
You know what, I think we should have a long weekend.
I'll see you back here again on Monday with a
weekend edition. It might even be a long weekend edition.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Used talking Talking Zaid Bean for more from us Talk
said b listen live on air or online and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio,
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