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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am van Hart, and we
are looking back at tuesday investment from overseas? How's that going?
The talk of rape caps? That seems good. I guess
(00:49):
as un as your council, the healthy home thing has
kick been. Does this mean that the balance of power
has swung towards the renters? And how long should a
national anthem be at a sports event?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
For any of that?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Iran Israel trump Yauser's.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
They have wanted to the Islamic Republic of Iran has
wanted to export it's Islamic revolution around the region, and
that's worried its neighbors because they are mostly Sunni Muslim leaders.
They don't want to have the Shia take over their countries.
(01:39):
That Iran doesn't have many friends in the region. So
at a time when Iran is finding itself isolated, lacking
support from its neighbors and its treaty partners, that may
well lie low and lick its wounds again for now
(02:01):
in time, this can be included as another chapter in
the sad and Sorry history of the Middle East. There
is a lot of inflammatory talk. There's a lot of
worried talk about this being potentially disastrous. But when you
can see Iran isolated, friendless. We haven't even got your mates,
(02:22):
allegedly your neighbors saying, look, this is just an outrage.
You know, we stand with Iran. Nobody's doing that. So
while Winston Peters is worried, he's concerned, he says it's,
you know, the biggest issue he's faced, and puts them
in mind of the Cuban missile crisis. I'm hoping that
(02:44):
this too will pass.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, so it could be a little bit disappointing for
Kerry that this morning, of course, we've got Trump saying
they don't know what the ef they're doing with regards
to Israel and Iran. It's unusual turn of diplomatic phrase
(03:07):
from the leader of the free world, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Ze been right. I think we're turning a corner in
terms of investment. Are we got some stats out on this?
It's looking good, Green shirts, green shoots.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Our requirements are at least as competitive or more competitive
to similar options, and huila, you get some wins. That's
potentially eight hundred and forty five million dollars of investment
for New Zealand. But what they're essentially buying is our lifestyle.
They want a beautiful, safe place at the bottom of
(03:45):
the world to call home or home away from home.
The numbers Seemore revealed in his press conference yesterday on
overseas investment show that while we've made that process more
attractive for people, more competitive, you've still got to have
something worth selling at the end of the day, which
in this case is an attractive investment. You can make
(04:05):
it as easy and hassle free to invest here as
you want, but if the opportunities aren't here, if the
potential for wins aren't here, the investment won't follow. Overseas
investment decisions are now being made twice as fast thanks
to Seymour's intervention, but the number of applications has gone
down in the last year. Why because the property market's
(04:27):
gone capot Which is not to say the process shouldn't
have been simplified, but it just goes to show if
you want investment, you've got to have something attractive on offer,
and right now, the lifestyle, the key we lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Is what we've got going for us. Oh, I'm so confused.
I thought we had some good numbers and good data,
and now are you saying that it's bad? I hate
data anyway. I guess it depends which data you look
at as to whether those it slight. The idea of
(05:03):
all these green shoots that people keep looking about.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Qu's talk, sibn.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's the idea of a rates cap on councils. Is
that a will that promote green shoots? I'm all about
the green shoots this morning.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
So what will then happen if you put the rate
cap on is that after years and years and years
and years of deferred capital expenditure, the pipes will break
down because Wellington hasn't spent money on them, and the
roads will be in disrepair because Wellington hasn't spent money
on them, and the buildings will need earthquake upgrades because
Wellington hasn't spent money on them. And then they will say, oh,
look at all the trouble we've got, we need more money.
And then some government run by somebody like Grant Robertson
(05:40):
will go, yeah, cool, We'll lift the rate cap, and
they'll just make up for lost ground and go hell
for leather and jacket up. Or what they'll do is
for years and years and years and years, they will
just run everything on the credit card. And then they'll say, oh,
look it's a debt crisis. Oh, we've got to pay
back our debt. We need more money, and some government
run by somebody like Grant Robertson will go, oh, yeah,
that's cool, let's lift the date the rate cap, and
then off they go, and they'll they'll just make up
(06:01):
for lost ground, see.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
What I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
It'll make you feel good about it in the short term,
but they will get you eventually, because the problem is
that they aren't spending money properly, and that is actually
what we need to fixate now. I don't know how.
I think getting rid of some of our councils, by
canning the regional councils, or canning the district councils, or
canning the local the city councils, I don't know. Getting
rid of some council somewhere may help to limit the costs,
(06:25):
but I'm not entirely sure even of that. Ultimately, I
think we just need smarter people on council and we
need to hold their feet to the fire. But as
long as you have numpties and council officials who are
shady and you're not watching them, a rate cap will
only delay the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, and I think it took her a while to
get there, but I think he's really isolated the main problem.
Too many numpties. We need to know numpty prom policy.
I think that's that's what we need. A numpty cap.
Don't worry about the rates. Can get the number of numpies.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Involved your city.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Now, so healthy homes. This has made life more difficult
for landlords, is it? And if life is more difficult
for landlords, does that make life more a cult for
their tenants or is it just a sort of a
a balance, a power and balance that's been balanced.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
A lot of landlords are just leaving, which then it's
going to become everything's going to be you know in
the government teams like they want you know, in every
renter to be under them or something like that.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Yeah, I'm torn on the regulations grig that.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
I do think to get to a minimum standard.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Enough and then people can say no, but you know
who is who is government and all these regulators to
say this is how it has to be. Like when
I was a teenager, I used to rent garages for
like fifty cents stuff dollars a week, you know, and
and stuff I would just put a booty blanket on.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
And that as as I say before, Greg, when you're
trying to make your way in the world, you.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Especially if you're trying to save to get hire exactly,
you don't want to waste money on some expensive bloody
thing's regulation. Who do they think they are to tell
a landlord what to do with his property And maybe
maybe you maybe bad nobody will rent it, and.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
Maybe it's a thing Greg where you go, well, look,
this is a healthy home standard house, and it gets
gets branded as such. But if you want to live
in a house, that.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Sounds like Marxism to me. But I will label something
a certain way to put you in a different No.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
No, no, no, you're not understanding what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Greg.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
What I'm saying is you could have a healthy home
standard as you sometimes get you know, in businesses, you say, look,
this is registered, this is approved, and you can choose
to pay more to live in that house. But if
you're like me and you when we were younger, Greg,
we wanted to get ahead and save money and we
didn't really care what we lived in, and so that
is your choice. You go, look, I just want to
live in a garage. That that's fine.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
But then you find a girl and she's all like, no,
we're not living in squalors and you have to pay.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Top dollar exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's that's the balance of Greek.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That's that's a regulation of its own sort.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So once again it took them a while to get there,
but they got there in the end. The major issue
is that women have standards and men don't. I think
that's what we've established there. We're happy to live in
any old hobble and that's basically why we need women,
(09:28):
because otherwise would just be in our own filth. News
talk has been why you guys keep us around? By
you guys, I mean women, and by us I mean men.
We're going to finish up here with a bit of
sports anthem for car. I was surprised to hear that
(09:51):
people didn't enjoy the national anthem before the rugby final
on Saturday night. I thought it was good.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The trouble is, the song's not good.
Speaker 9 (10:05):
And it is douge like even at the Olympics when
it oh, I can feel the energy being drained out
of my body.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It is a dirge, a durge. It's not a good song.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Now.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
I don't think we should change it because it's ours.
But it's not a banger. Some anthems are bangers. Some
anthems are bangers. Ours is far from it. Our anthem
is a It feels like your spirit has been drained
from you throughout the course of the song. I feel
(10:41):
like I'm being deflated.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's just hasn't got a good beat. And I'm not
a musical person. I just know I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's fine now, Mary, people are agreeing with you. She's right.
It was killed on Saturday. Who sung it?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Who sung it?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't really have a sweepstake. Was it Lizzie Marvelli
or was it? Was it sung it? Just fyi? The
two people at the national anthem.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
At the Crusaders final, they did it in two minutes
and seven seconds, two minutes seven seconds. Just for a comparison,
The Great Hailey Western ra seventeen years ago, fifteen years
ago thirteen years and fifteen years ago thirteen she did
it in one fifty seven, in fact one fifty two.
So Hailey does it fifteen seconds quicker?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think fifteen seconds is the end of the world?
Is it? Who cares? Although now the more I think
about it, I am wondering if that's what costs the
Chiefs the final because obviously they beat Cannibury in christ
Church earlier on in the season and there was no
(11:56):
national than then. Really the only thing that's changed in
scene was the fact that they had a national influence.
So maybe everybody's onto something. Bring back Haiti western h
so Fore, these days I am a glen hat. I
know what I'm up to. I'm up to doing newspaloks.
You've been about this time again tomorrow this season News.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Talking Talking z it beam
Speaker 1 (12:20):
For more from News Talk set b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am van Hart, and we
are looking back at tuesday investment from overseas? How's that going?
The talk of rape caps? That seems good. I guess
(00:49):
as un as your council, the healthy home thing has
kick been. Does this mean that the balance of power
has swung towards the renters? And how long should a
national anthem be at a sports event?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
For any of that?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Iran Israel trump Yauser's.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
They have wanted to the Islamic Republic of Iran has
wanted to export it's Islamic revolution around the region, and
that's worried its neighbors because they are mostly Sunni Muslim leaders.
They don't want to have the Shia take over their countries.
(01:39):
That Iran doesn't have many friends in the region. So
at a time when Iran is finding itself isolated, lacking
support from its neighbors and its treaty partners, that may
well lie low and lick its wounds again for now
(02:01):
in time, this can be included as another chapter in
the sad and Sorry history of the Middle East. There
is a lot of inflammatory talk. There's a lot of
worried talk about this being potentially disastrous. But when you
can see Iran isolated, friendless. We haven't even got your mates,
(02:22):
allegedly your neighbors saying, look, this is just an outrage.
You know, we stand with Iran. Nobody's doing that. So
while Winston Peters is worried, he's concerned, he says it's,
you know, the biggest issue he's faced, and puts them
in mind of the Cuban missile crisis. I'm hoping that
(02:44):
this too will pass.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, so it could be a little bit disappointing for
Kerry that this morning, of course, we've got Trump saying
they don't know what the ef they're doing with regards
to Israel and Iran. It's unusual turn of diplomatic phrase
(03:07):
from the leader of the free world, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Ze been right. I think we're turning a corner in
terms of investment. Are we got some stats out on this?
It's looking good, Green shirts, green shoots.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Our requirements are at least as competitive or more competitive
to similar options, and huila, you get some wins. That's
potentially eight hundred and forty five million dollars of investment
for New Zealand. But what they're essentially buying is our lifestyle.
They want a beautiful, safe place at the bottom of
(03:45):
the world to call home or home away from home.
The numbers Seemore revealed in his press conference yesterday on
overseas investment show that while we've made that process more
attractive for people, more competitive, you've still got to have
something worth selling at the end of the day, which
in this case is an attractive investment. You can make
(04:05):
it as easy and hassle free to invest here as
you want, but if the opportunities aren't here, if the
potential for wins aren't here, the investment won't follow. Overseas
investment decisions are now being made twice as fast thanks
to Seymour's intervention, but the number of applications has gone
down in the last year. Why because the property market's
(04:27):
gone capot Which is not to say the process shouldn't
have been simplified, but it just goes to show if
you want investment, you've got to have something attractive on offer,
and right now, the lifestyle, the key we lifestyle.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Is what we've got going for us. Oh, I'm so confused.
I thought we had some good numbers and good data,
and now are you saying that it's bad? I hate
data anyway. I guess it depends which data you look
at as to whether those it slight. The idea of
(05:03):
all these green shoots that people keep looking about.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Qu's talk, sibn.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's the idea of a rates cap on councils. Is
that a will that promote green shoots? I'm all about
the green shoots this morning.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
So what will then happen if you put the rate
cap on is that after years and years and years
and years of deferred capital expenditure, the pipes will break
down because Wellington hasn't spent money on them, and the
roads will be in disrepair because Wellington hasn't spent money
on them, and the buildings will need earthquake upgrades because
Wellington hasn't spent money on them. And then they will say, oh,
look at all the trouble we've got, we need more money.
And then some government run by somebody like Grant Robertson
(05:40):
will go, yeah, cool, We'll lift the rate cap, and
they'll just make up for lost ground and go hell
for leather and jacket up. Or what they'll do is
for years and years and years and years, they will
just run everything on the credit card. And then they'll say, oh,
look it's a debt crisis. Oh, we've got to pay
back our debt. We need more money, and some government
run by somebody like Grant Robertson will go, oh, yeah,
that's cool, let's lift the date the rate cap, and
then off they go, and they'll they'll just make up
(06:01):
for lost ground, see.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
What I mean.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
It'll make you feel good about it in the short term,
but they will get you eventually, because the problem is
that they aren't spending money properly, and that is actually
what we need to fixate now. I don't know how.
I think getting rid of some of our councils, by
canning the regional councils, or canning the district councils, or
canning the local the city councils, I don't know. Getting
rid of some council somewhere may help to limit the costs,
(06:25):
but I'm not entirely sure even of that. Ultimately, I
think we just need smarter people on council and we
need to hold their feet to the fire. But as
long as you have numpties and council officials who are
shady and you're not watching them, a rate cap will
only delay the problem.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yes, and I think it took her a while to
get there, but I think he's really isolated the main problem.
Too many numpties. We need to know numpty prom policy.
I think that's that's what we need. A numpty cap.
Don't worry about the rates. Can get the number of numpies.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Involved your city.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Now, so healthy homes. This has made life more difficult
for landlords, is it? And if life is more difficult
for landlords, does that make life more a cult for
their tenants or is it just a sort of a
a balance, a power and balance that's been balanced.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
A lot of landlords are just leaving, which then it's
going to become everything's going to be you know in
the government teams like they want you know, in every
renter to be under them or something like that.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
Yeah, I'm torn on the regulations grig that.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
I do think to get to a minimum standard.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Enough and then people can say no, but you know
who is who is government and all these regulators to
say this is how it has to be. Like when
I was a teenager, I used to rent garages for
like fifty cents stuff dollars a week, you know, and
and stuff I would just put a booty blanket on.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, and you know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
And that as as I say before, Greg, when you're
trying to make your way in the world, you.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
Especially if you're trying to save to get hire exactly,
you don't want to waste money on some expensive bloody
thing's regulation. Who do they think they are to tell
a landlord what to do with his property And maybe
maybe you maybe bad nobody will rent it, and.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
Maybe it's a thing Greg where you go, well, look,
this is a healthy home standard house, and it gets
gets branded as such. But if you want to live
in a house, that.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Sounds like Marxism to me. But I will label something
a certain way to put you in a different No.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
No, no, no, you're not understanding what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Greg.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
What I'm saying is you could have a healthy home
standard as you sometimes get you know, in businesses, you say, look,
this is registered, this is approved, and you can choose
to pay more to live in that house. But if
you're like me and you when we were younger, Greg,
we wanted to get ahead and save money and we
didn't really care what we lived in, and so that
is your choice. You go, look, I just want to
live in a garage. That that's fine.
Speaker 7 (08:53):
But then you find a girl and she's all like, no,
we're not living in squalors and you have to pay.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Top dollar exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's that's the balance of Greek.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
That's that's a regulation of its own sort.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So once again it took them a while to get there,
but they got there in the end. The major issue
is that women have standards and men don't. I think
that's what we've established there. We're happy to live in
any old hobble and that's basically why we need women,
(09:28):
because otherwise would just be in our own filth. News
talk has been why you guys keep us around? By
you guys, I mean women, and by us I mean men.
We're going to finish up here with a bit of
sports anthem for car. I was surprised to hear that
(09:51):
people didn't enjoy the national anthem before the rugby final
on Saturday night. I thought it was good.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
The trouble is, the song's not good.
Speaker 9 (10:05):
And it is douge like even at the Olympics when
it oh, I can feel the energy being drained out
of my body.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It is a dirge, a durge. It's not a good song.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Now.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
I don't think we should change it because it's ours.
But it's not a banger. Some anthems are bangers. Some
anthems are bangers. Ours is far from it. Our anthem
is a It feels like your spirit has been drained
from you throughout the course of the song. I feel
(10:41):
like I'm being deflated.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
It's just hasn't got a good beat. And I'm not
a musical person. I just know I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's fine now, Mary, people are agreeing with you. She's right.
It was killed on Saturday. Who sung it?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Who sung it?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I don't really have a sweepstake. Was it Lizzie Marvelli
or was it? Was it sung it? Just fyi? The
two people at the national anthem.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
At the Crusaders final, they did it in two minutes
and seven seconds, two minutes seven seconds. Just for a comparison,
The Great Hailey Western ra seventeen years ago, fifteen years
ago thirteen years and fifteen years ago thirteen she did
it in one fifty seven, in fact one fifty two.
So Hailey does it fifteen seconds quicker?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think fifteen seconds is the end of the world?
Is it? Who cares? Although now the more I think
about it, I am wondering if that's what costs the
Chiefs the final because obviously they beat Cannibury in christ
Church earlier on in the season and there was no
(11:56):
national than then. Really the only thing that's changed in
scene was the fact that they had a national influence.
So maybe everybody's onto something. Bring back Haiti western h
so Fore, these days I am a glen hat. I
know what I'm up to. I'm up to doing newspaloks.
You've been about this time again tomorrow this season News.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Talking Talking z it beam
Speaker 1 (12:20):
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