June 26, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Who's Paying for This?/Stop Living so Long/I Only Want to Vote Once/There's Not Much You Can Do About the End of the World/Schnitzel Memories
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed be Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hahnen. We're looking
back at Thursday superannuation. This seems to be an ongoing
sort of bubbling discussion this whole what are we going
to do about superannuation? How do we pay for it?
Why there's so many old people kind of discussion? Should
(00:46):
we put them in high rises? Would you put everyone
in high rises? Coming to the government councils disagree? Are
we heading for a nuclear winter?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ww?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Does that snack up on me? That one? Fine?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Dam?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's all about and Schnitzel talk at the end of
the pod. But first up, Maana Pacifica. Heck quite a
good Super Rugby season, but now it's all turned a
bit sad because it turns out the wrong outfits for
funding them.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
This is money that, to our minds, is supposed to
be going to some of the most vulnerable people, to
helping Mari and Pacifica families with things like health, medical appointments,
baby jabs, education, housing, that kind of thing. But instead
we find out it's been going to fund a rugby
team for elite athletes. This has been going on for
(01:36):
at least two years. One of the outfits that's contracted
to spend Final Order funds Pacifica Medical Association group we're
going to call them PMA. PMA has been giving seven
hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year to more Onna Pacifica. Now,
if they do it again this year, we haven't got
the financials, but if they do it again this year
at the same level, it will be total two point
three million. That's a lot of money. Now, credit where
(01:58):
credit is due credit to the new Fino Order Minister
Tama Portucker or to his department, either of which appears
to have already stopped this in its tracks. Take in
the contract off PMA given it to a new outfit.
That outfit has to abide by a much tighter set
of measurements around the spending end of the money and
a bit more clarity about whether they are getting their
(02:19):
bang for their buck when they spend the dollars. But
once again, even though it has been stopped and credit
were credit is d you once again, though tax payer
money has been wasted. And the lesson here, if there
is a lesson, is that it is absolutely fine to
hand out tax payer money to a third party. But
if you do that, they have got to be rules
and there has got to be supervision. Otherwise, money that
(02:39):
we all think is going to families who need it
could instead be propping up a rugby team.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I feel like rugby can't get out of its own
way at the moment. On the mic Host and Breakfast,
we were supposed to be talking to the Sky Sport.
I think that's what we were supposed to be golding
to about what good viewership the Super Rugby competition had had.
But then, for one reason or another, we didn't have
time for that end of you, and instead the story
(03:05):
yesterday is this pollocks, come on, rugby, lift your game?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Are you getting older? I know I am, and I'm
not quite sure how I'm going to pay for me
when I am old, because I surely nobody will still
be listening to these anymore.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Boys born in the early twenty twenties, so you're freshies
could expect to live to eighty eight years on average.
Girls ninety one years on average, so we've added about
ten years to our lives. This is very expensive, and
it's only going to get better or worse, depending on
how you look at this problem.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I was speaking to a woman in whose seventies this
week now I won't name, who firmly believes that when
you reach the age of eighty, you must choose the
pension or healthcare. We can't afford both. How can we
afford to fill our hospitals, keeping you know, eighty plus
year olds alive and keeping paying them pensions and not
(04:10):
send the country bankrupt? Is her point, and she's older
closer to ag than I am, much closer. I know
it sounds jarring. I know it sounds cruel, But isn't
it fair to ask how we plan to fund the
very expensive long lives that we are now planning to live, which,
(04:31):
by the way, was not the intention when the pension
was set up when it was universal. The age has
blown out massively, hasn't it? So I think it's fair
to ask the question at least, how do we confront
that problem?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, obviously, we need to stop living so long. Come on, guys,
stop with all the healthy eating and the exercise and stuff,
go back to the good old days. And we all
died in our seventies.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So selfish us talk side.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So quite the continuing staush between basically between central government
and local government. There just seems to be one thing
after another that they can't agree on. And the latest
thing is building tall buildings, especially around railway stations. I
don't know what's happening.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
How do we feel about central government overriding a city's
unitary plan. I like what the government's proposing to do,
but what's to stop a labor green Tepati Maori government
coming in because that's your choice and ordering a city
or region to comply with its own version of what
(05:43):
is right and proper. You know, what is the point
of a unitary plan if central government laws can trump
public consultation. So everybody's been asked for their opinions and
they've given them, and so the city has drawn up
a plan accordingly. And that's any city, christ Church, Wellington, Land,
(06:05):
wherever you happen to become. Central government says, yeah, not
good enough, doesn't go far enough. We want to do
it like this. And while I agree with the caveats
have mentioned, I think it makes perfect sense, and it's
(06:26):
certainly not going to happen overnight, even with the best
will in the world and a government that wants to
make things happen. But once to stop the next government,
should it be Labor Green Tepatimori, because that's your choice
of coming in and overriding the unitary plan in your
region because there's something they want to do.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I hardly endorse it. I'm sick of voting twice. This
is really crystallized for me just this week, this whole
voting twice for people to be in charge of you.
I just want one lot of people to be in
charge of me, not two lots.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Is not too much to ours use your set.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I'm glad, I tell you. I'm glad, Mett and Tyler
around in charge of anything, and otherwise would all be
living in a nuclear winter.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
I think it looks like an EMP that we were
talking about for might not blast us too badly down
here at twenty five miles up. This analysis says the
area of the earth service within the line of sight
of the blast, and I guess this depends on the
strength of the bars. An E one pulse would have
a radius about four hundred and forty miles. So you know,
(07:34):
this is five hundred nukes. Always feels so grim to
say nukes. It seems so flippant, pretty depressing idea. But
five hundred nukes going off then, and even if they're
you know, high altitude, then that might not affect New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, I mean a long way away.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
It will affect us, and that all the electronics that
we connect with overseas will be knocked out. Yeah, so
it would be pretty hard to go on Amazon and
use your credit card.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It certainly would do. Yeah, there's a great text here
after good afternoon, guys. I was born in nineteen forty two,
so I have lived under the threat of nuclear disaster
most of my life. Is nuclear winter still a thing.
I've just simply given up stressing about it. If it happens,
it happens.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that's that's my attitude too. You know, if the
end of the world comes, it comes, what can you do?
Love and let live news talk, ze been and each schnitzel. Now,
hang on, what what what Marcus was talking schnitzel and
(08:38):
you still get schnitzel. People still want schnitzel.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
What I want to talk about is what the Australians
call schnitty. So what's happened? Why is Australia suddenly obsessed
with schnitzel. There's songs about it, there's restaurants focused on it.
You go on TikTok, you go on Instagram. All it
(09:04):
is Australias eating stitzel. Why schnitty as they call it,
stiddy and chips and it's taken over. Every pub meal
is chicken snitchel and chips. It's what they love or
palm or palma as they call it, which is chicken
schnitzel with ham and cheese. So how come Australia, which
(09:25):
is so close, is so fixated with schnitzel and it's
passed us by because I would say, very really Degaonia
in New Zealand and you see schnitzel off it, particularly
chicken schnitzel, but in Australia it's taken over. So as
part of that, I want your vibes on that, your
(09:45):
experience with schnitzel in Australia. And in fact, when I
went to the Rugby League at Penrith, that's what every
stand was selling was schnitty and chips or schnitzel here
very really. I've never seen a food truck dough schnitzel, never,
not once so and I always thought for a while
that schnitzel was only veal, but that has weenished itsel
(10:09):
And some people are funny about veal because it seems
it can seem cruel because the young calves have had
their full lives. But actually schitzel can be any meat
as long as it's bat and thin and crumbed and fried.
But the Aussies love it. They reckon if there was
one national dish, it would be schnitzel.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I feel like Germany might have something to say about that,
but I mean it is. It's a sign of how
things have changed for me, because I do remember, and
this memory is just bubbled up to the surface now
because when I talk to people about the food that
(10:47):
I ate when I first went flatting, I always talk
about how we were making an enormous pot of chili
at the beginning of the week and then just have
it served different ways throughout the week. Nacho's one night, obviously,
if you have it with maked potato, you have it
on rice. There's a lot of ways to eat chili.
(11:14):
But with Marcus talking about schnitzel there. I do remember
actually buying schnitchell because it was cheap to buy, and
doing the whole crumbing and everything myself. I think it
was partly because my flatmate had a vertical fryer that
used to be a thing with a drip tray at
the bottom. There's well back in the days before anybody
(11:35):
had thought about air friers. Oh I'm not sure if
you can do schnitzel in an air fry. But the
point is what I was trying to get to is
that these days, if I were to buy schnitzel, of
course I'd already buy already crumb That's how fancy pants
and privileged ie am these days. It never occurred to
(11:57):
me to just buy a flat piece of meat. I
put my own crumbs on it. Picus le's got time
for that. So on that note, you know, I like
to make you feel hungry at the end of these podcasts.
As you know, I don't know that I've achieved that today,
because it can't be that many people out there like
(12:20):
sh ness or they apart from the Australians obviously, I
am gleen hat. We'll see you back here again on
Monday for the weekend edition of News Talks.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You'd been used Talking Talks it been for more from
news Talk, said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk, sed be Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hahnen. We're looking
back at Thursday superannuation. This seems to be an ongoing
sort of bubbling discussion this whole what are we going
to do about superannuation? How do we pay for it?
Why there's so many old people kind of discussion? Should
(00:46):
we put them in high rises? Would you put everyone
in high rises? Coming to the government councils disagree? Are
we heading for a nuclear winter?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ww?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Does that snack up on me? That one? Fine?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Dam?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
That's all about and Schnitzel talk at the end of
the pod. But first up, Maana Pacifica. Heck quite a
good Super Rugby season, but now it's all turned a
bit sad because it turns out the wrong outfits for
funding them.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
This is money that, to our minds, is supposed to
be going to some of the most vulnerable people, to
helping Mari and Pacifica families with things like health, medical appointments,
baby jabs, education, housing, that kind of thing. But instead
we find out it's been going to fund a rugby
team for elite athletes. This has been going on for
(01:36):
at least two years. One of the outfits that's contracted
to spend Final Order funds Pacifica Medical Association group we're
going to call them PMA. PMA has been giving seven
hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year to more Onna Pacifica. Now,
if they do it again this year, we haven't got
the financials, but if they do it again this year
at the same level, it will be total two point
three million. That's a lot of money. Now, credit where
(01:58):
credit is due credit to the new Fino Order Minister
Tama Portucker or to his department, either of which appears
to have already stopped this in its tracks. Take in
the contract off PMA given it to a new outfit.
That outfit has to abide by a much tighter set
of measurements around the spending end of the money and
a bit more clarity about whether they are getting their
(02:19):
bang for their buck when they spend the dollars. But
once again, even though it has been stopped and credit
were credit is d you once again, though tax payer
money has been wasted. And the lesson here, if there
is a lesson, is that it is absolutely fine to
hand out tax payer money to a third party. But
if you do that, they have got to be rules
and there has got to be supervision. Otherwise, money that
(02:39):
we all think is going to families who need it
could instead be propping up a rugby team.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I feel like rugby can't get out of its own
way at the moment. On the mic Host and Breakfast,
we were supposed to be talking to the Sky Sport.
I think that's what we were supposed to be golding
to about what good viewership the Super Rugby competition had had.
But then, for one reason or another, we didn't have
time for that end of you, and instead the story
(03:05):
yesterday is this pollocks, come on, rugby, lift your game?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk has it been?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Now?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Are you getting older? I know I am, and I'm
not quite sure how I'm going to pay for me
when I am old, because I surely nobody will still
be listening to these anymore.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Boys born in the early twenty twenties, so you're freshies
could expect to live to eighty eight years on average.
Girls ninety one years on average, so we've added about
ten years to our lives. This is very expensive, and
it's only going to get better or worse, depending on
how you look at this problem.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Now.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
I was speaking to a woman in whose seventies this
week now I won't name, who firmly believes that when
you reach the age of eighty, you must choose the
pension or healthcare. We can't afford both. How can we
afford to fill our hospitals, keeping you know, eighty plus
year olds alive and keeping paying them pensions and not
(04:10):
send the country bankrupt? Is her point, and she's older
closer to ag than I am, much closer. I know
it sounds jarring. I know it sounds cruel, But isn't
it fair to ask how we plan to fund the
very expensive long lives that we are now planning to live, which,
(04:31):
by the way, was not the intention when the pension
was set up when it was universal. The age has
blown out massively, hasn't it? So I think it's fair
to ask the question at least, how do we confront
that problem?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Well, obviously, we need to stop living so long. Come on, guys,
stop with all the healthy eating and the exercise and stuff,
go back to the good old days. And we all
died in our seventies.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
So selfish us talk side.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
So quite the continuing staush between basically between central government
and local government. There just seems to be one thing
after another that they can't agree on. And the latest
thing is building tall buildings, especially around railway stations. I
don't know what's happening.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
How do we feel about central government overriding a city's
unitary plan. I like what the government's proposing to do,
but what's to stop a labor green Tepati Maori government
coming in because that's your choice and ordering a city
or region to comply with its own version of what
(05:43):
is right and proper. You know, what is the point
of a unitary plan if central government laws can trump
public consultation. So everybody's been asked for their opinions and
they've given them, and so the city has drawn up
a plan accordingly. And that's any city, christ Church, Wellington, Land,
(06:05):
wherever you happen to become. Central government says, yeah, not
good enough, doesn't go far enough. We want to do
it like this. And while I agree with the caveats
have mentioned, I think it makes perfect sense, and it's
(06:26):
certainly not going to happen overnight, even with the best
will in the world and a government that wants to
make things happen. But once to stop the next government,
should it be Labor Green Tepatimori, because that's your choice
of coming in and overriding the unitary plan in your
region because there's something they want to do.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
I hardly endorse it. I'm sick of voting twice. This
is really crystallized for me just this week, this whole
voting twice for people to be in charge of you.
I just want one lot of people to be in
charge of me, not two lots.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Is not too much to ours use your set.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I'm glad, I tell you. I'm glad, Mett and Tyler
around in charge of anything, and otherwise would all be
living in a nuclear winter.
Speaker 7 (07:12):
I think it looks like an EMP that we were
talking about for might not blast us too badly down
here at twenty five miles up. This analysis says the
area of the earth service within the line of sight
of the blast, and I guess this depends on the
strength of the bars. An E one pulse would have
a radius about four hundred and forty miles. So you know,
(07:34):
this is five hundred nukes. Always feels so grim to
say nukes. It seems so flippant, pretty depressing idea. But
five hundred nukes going off then, and even if they're
you know, high altitude, then that might not affect New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, I mean a long way away.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
It will affect us, and that all the electronics that
we connect with overseas will be knocked out. Yeah, so
it would be pretty hard to go on Amazon and
use your credit card.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It certainly would do. Yeah, there's a great text here
after good afternoon, guys. I was born in nineteen forty two,
so I have lived under the threat of nuclear disaster
most of my life. Is nuclear winter still a thing.
I've just simply given up stressing about it. If it happens,
it happens.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, that's that's my attitude too. You know, if the
end of the world comes, it comes, what can you do?
Love and let live news talk, ze been and each schnitzel. Now,
hang on, what what what Marcus was talking schnitzel and
(08:38):
you still get schnitzel. People still want schnitzel.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
What I want to talk about is what the Australians
call schnitty. So what's happened? Why is Australia suddenly obsessed
with schnitzel. There's songs about it, there's restaurants focused on it.
You go on TikTok, you go on Instagram. All it
(09:04):
is Australias eating stitzel. Why schnitty as they call it,
stiddy and chips and it's taken over. Every pub meal
is chicken snitchel and chips. It's what they love or
palm or palma as they call it, which is chicken
schnitzel with ham and cheese. So how come Australia, which
(09:25):
is so close, is so fixated with schnitzel and it's
passed us by because I would say, very really Degaonia
in New Zealand and you see schnitzel off it, particularly
chicken schnitzel, but in Australia it's taken over. So as
part of that, I want your vibes on that, your
(09:45):
experience with schnitzel in Australia. And in fact, when I
went to the Rugby League at Penrith, that's what every
stand was selling was schnitty and chips or schnitzel here
very really. I've never seen a food truck dough schnitzel, never,
not once so and I always thought for a while
that schnitzel was only veal, but that has weenished itsel
(10:09):
And some people are funny about veal because it seems
it can seem cruel because the young calves have had
their full lives. But actually schitzel can be any meat
as long as it's bat and thin and crumbed and fried.
But the Aussies love it. They reckon if there was
one national dish, it would be schnitzel.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I feel like Germany might have something to say about that,
but I mean it is. It's a sign of how
things have changed for me, because I do remember, and
this memory is just bubbled up to the surface now
because when I talk to people about the food that
(10:47):
I ate when I first went flatting, I always talk
about how we were making an enormous pot of chili
at the beginning of the week and then just have
it served different ways throughout the week. Nacho's one night, obviously,
if you have it with maked potato, you have it
on rice. There's a lot of ways to eat chili.
(11:14):
But with Marcus talking about schnitzel there. I do remember
actually buying schnitchell because it was cheap to buy, and
doing the whole crumbing and everything myself. I think it
was partly because my flatmate had a vertical fryer that
used to be a thing with a drip tray at
the bottom. There's well back in the days before anybody
(11:35):
had thought about air friers. Oh I'm not sure if
you can do schnitzel in an air fry. But the
point is what I was trying to get to is
that these days, if I were to buy schnitzel, of
course I'd already buy already crumb That's how fancy pants
and privileged ie am these days. It never occurred to
(11:57):
me to just buy a flat piece of meat. I
put my own crumbs on it. Picus le's got time
for that. So on that note, you know, I like
to make you feel hungry at the end of these podcasts.
As you know, I don't know that I've achieved that today,
because it can't be that many people out there like
(12:20):
sh ness or they apart from the Australians obviously, I
am gleen hat. We'll see you back here again on
Monday for the weekend edition of News Talks.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You'd been used Talking Talks it been for more from
news Talk, said b. Listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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