July 6, 2025 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Oh it's a weekend edition, Well it means it's first
of yesterday's news, but because it's the weekend edition, you
get Sunday and Saturday as well. Irom glen Hart and
today Oh no, the two of Francis on it. And
speaking of all things French, some French rugby players came
(00:49):
here to play against the.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
All Blacks and it's quietly probably did a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Better than.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Romeo.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And Juliet's on again for the eight million billion time
and Guy Montgomery is doing very well in Austrailire. But
before any of that, congestion charges, please don't tell me
we're going to have to be paying congestion charges.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
So number one, what is congestion pricing.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
It's basically putting a price on using a road or
part of the road network when the road it's busiest time,
so typically peak times, although we see in places like
London where they're sort of busy all day it can
be a twelve hour charge.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Are you on speakerphone.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
No, I'm not can you hear me that?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I can't hear you. You're just a little bit echoe.
You've got the earbuds in or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
No, nothing really, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I hope you hope You're not in the loop. So
you've got the congestion pricing. You go on a road
that has been identified as being congested and then they
stick a tax on it. Let's be honest, it is
a tax. It's an indirect tax. They stick a tax
on it. What is the point of that.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
It's mainly to encourage people to think about whether they
need to be on the network at that time. Obviously,
people getting to go into work don't have options do
the theorreas. There's a bunch of people who can don't
need to make their trip at that time, or maybe
able to use public transport, and that will free the
network up a little bit for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Here's an idea, why don't we just charge the people
that don't need to be on there and the people
who actually do need to be can just go on
about their business.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
If you think that is down a little bit defensive
about all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm just worried as a guy who can't catch a
bus or a train to get to work at three
o'clock in the morning. I'm just worried about exactly how
this is all going to work?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
With all the sport that's going on in the world,
you think you'd have something better to do than watch
a bunch of dr drug addits right around on bicycles
in France when you but no, No Jack loves it.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I think it's the kind of the blend, like the
romance and the agony of it all. The romance and
the agony are just so alluring. You know, the way
that riders slowly decay before your eyes over the three
weeks and over more than three thousand kilometers, The way
(03:20):
that teams have to work to secure individual victories, the
spectators lining the road, running with the leaders, often getting
far closer than would ever be permitted in any other sport.
And then just the psychology of it. I mean it
is madness. Imagine cycling for a couple of hundred kilometers
in intense heat or over a mountain range, only to
(03:42):
get back to your bed at the end of the
day and know you have to do it all again.
The next day, and the next day and the day
after that. I honestly thought after the Lance Armstrong saga
that I was done with the Tour de France.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Maybe it was the Netflix treatment or simply the incredible
generation defining rivalry of the world's two best riders, Polachar
and Vinger Guards. But I am very much back in
the saddle, So that's my pick. I reckon the All
Blacks are well placed to blast the French in Dunedin tonight.
But if you haven't watched it in a while and
(04:19):
you want guaranteed sporting drama, hang around just a few
more hours tonight for stage one of La tour. You
will not be disappointed.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I was pleading referring to them as drug addicts.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, they're drug cheats, and I only say that
because they always turn out to be.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that's the only reason though that's say that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But you know that's if that's your vibe, tell your
boots as Jack did make reference to the All Backs
France game there as well. Of course, he was talking
before it. Here is Paul Miller talking after it. Was
it as bad as the score indicase when I say
bad I mean, you know, the All blackstall one.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
How should All Blacks fans be feeling today about last night?
Speaker 8 (05:10):
Well, I think, hey, Piney, and yeah, good afternoon. But
I think as fans they shouldn't feel too overly disappointed
this French team, even though it was stipulated that, yes,
it is predominably their B side. However, the French flair,
the instinctiveness of the players, the level of their competition,
(05:31):
they were always going to challenge the All Blacks. And
you touched on it initially. Yep, yes, All Blacks were
rusty in that first twenty but and I heard a
comment from Jason Ryan, like, you know, if it was
a blowout score, there wouldn't been much to work on
and they would have missed those crucial things that they
definitely needed to work on from last night's game. And
that's particularly around their ruck time, defensive systems, and the
(05:54):
obvious one is the kickchase. So yeah, it's a building
momentum towards the series. And like yourself, Piney, I believe
that the All Blacks will be a lot better come
the second test in Wellington.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Let's talk about the kick chase.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How do you fix the issues around that?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
That happened last night.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
I think part of the problem is that the over
commitment they have in the actual rocky area around that
twenty two from a lineout or from a broken play,
it none of afis the ability for the runners to
get up and actually nominate to go up and compete
for the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So I was actually at the symphony on Saturday night,
tumb'll break watching my daughter be the principal Claron edis is.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The national youth orchestraph What were we talking about? Oh yeah, Rugby.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So I watched most of the game yesterday, so you know,
I could pretend that I knew what I was talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And it's a little bit to play it all right.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I had a couple of tries this allowed, didn't they.
But if they continue to kick away the high ball
with these defensive box kicks, a kick away all their position,
I think I'm going to stop watching them, perhaps never
watch them ever again.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think this is the year.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
This has been going on for years, This might be
the year where unless they could stop doing this, we
don't compete well under the high ball, never have.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Why we keep doing it? Are we certainly going to get.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Better at it?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Anyway? Let's leave it at that, right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Auckland Theater Company's got a new production of Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Hang on, I think I've seen this one, so.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Nice to be speaking with you both. Theo I'm going
to kick off with you. Just explain to us how
different is this production of Romeo and Juliet to the
one that we might have seen two hundred years ago.
Speaker 9 (08:02):
Well, for starters, you've got men and women in the cast,
because I know back then it was probably all men.
So that's nice. But like you said, this is said
in kind of nineteen sixties Milanese style, So think high fashion,
think culture, I think really hot passion. And like you said,
as well, you know, we've got all the actors retaining
(08:24):
their accent. So it's not going to be some British
broadcast network version of Roman Juliet. This is a Romanguli
produced in Auckland.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Ah fun, phoebe What about the language? Is it still
very much like Romeo Romeo? Where for out that Romeo?
Or is it like Romeo Romeo? Wee you wet boy?
Speaker 10 (08:42):
I mean I guess that the language is very much
the same, and the intention I mean wee wet boy
was valid back then and still valid now. So the
language is the same, the intention is heightened.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Actually, to continue my theme with Humble Briggs, I was
once in a Shakespeare where they said it in nineteen
thirty Italy there was a bambiner on stage a bicycle.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's quite cool. Yes, anyway, I'm just saying, been there,
done that news talk Zi been right off.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
The back of you know his spelling. The domination Guy
Montgomery is really absolutely creaming in Australia at the moment.
Even LOGI success amazing.
Speaker 11 (09:38):
Well, congratulations nominee for Graham Kennedy Award for Most Popular
New Talent at the logis. Did you see that one coming?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
No, I because you don't.
Speaker 12 (09:48):
I don't know how it works, but the networks choose
who they put forward from there, I suppose stable of shows,
and so I had I had no idea I was
in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I had no idea, respectfully that I was new.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
I you know, I always dreamed of being acknowledged as
newcomer before I was balding. But you don't have agency
over these things. So it's very exciting, but it was
certainly a surprise.
Speaker 11 (10:15):
I think it's quite encouraging to know that you can
be New Talent at thirty six years old.
Speaker 12 (10:20):
Yeah, I guess that's another way of looking at it.
I think, Yeah, I honestly don't know what the criteria is,
but it was I was stoked because the logis are
you know, like it's a weird name for an award.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
It stays in their head.
Speaker 12 (10:34):
And my partner, Chelsea Preston Crayford has this same LOGI.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
In our house.
Speaker 12 (10:40):
She won it in like twenty eleven for Underbelly Raiser
and I really want to get one of my own.
Speaker 11 (10:50):
You're never going to hear the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (10:52):
It's like, yeah, if I don't win, it's over. I'm
on the back foot. You only get one chance at
the Newcomer Award.
Speaker 11 (10:58):
You know, it's got nothing to do with your award.
It's got nothing to do with you know how much
you know telling you have. It's actually just about the relationship.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It's about personal stam in the place I lay my head.
Speaker 11 (11:11):
Who was Graham Kennedy?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Do you know?
Speaker 12 (11:14):
He is an iconic Australian television personality who paved the
way for people whose first name starts with G and
last name ends with why. And it's thanks to Graham
that people like me realized it was possible.
Speaker 11 (11:27):
Do you It's a popularity voter, isn't it. You have
to kind of campaign for votes.
Speaker 12 (11:30):
Yeah, this is one of the issues, is the way
to win the award That these things used to be
judged on merit, you know, ability as judged by a
panel of experts, but now it is genuinely like the
campaign to win the award. Basically it's who does the
best job of promoting the logis on their social media,
So you have to campaign.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You have to tell people to vote for you.
Speaker 12 (11:53):
And you know, some of the other nominees have a
lot of followers on Instagram, so it's a bit of
a or whatever platform it's. It can feel like a
fruitless task, but I have been. I've been chipping away
at it. I do you know, I harbor a desire
to win. I am a competitive person.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Weird, Yeah, I don't get that. I'm more of a
keep my head down.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Hope nobody notices what I'm doing because it will only
cause problems as that's mine who that competitive.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
With board games? I am. But other than that, it's
not so many. It's not about me. Though I am
a glad heart. It's not about me. I keep telling
you it's not about me. But if you what a
bit more of me, I'll be back here again tomorrow.
Get more of this.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Use Talking Talking Said Bean for more from us, Talk
Said b Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Oh it's a weekend edition, Well it means it's first
of yesterday's news, but because it's the weekend edition, you
get Sunday and Saturday as well. Irom glen Hart and
today Oh no, the two of Francis on it. And
speaking of all things French, some French rugby players came
(00:49):
here to play against the.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
All Blacks and it's quietly probably did a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Better than.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Romeo.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
And Juliet's on again for the eight million billion time
and Guy Montgomery is doing very well in Austrailire. But
before any of that, congestion charges, please don't tell me
we're going to have to be paying congestion charges.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
So number one, what is congestion pricing.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
It's basically putting a price on using a road or
part of the road network when the road it's busiest time,
so typically peak times, although we see in places like
London where they're sort of busy all day it can
be a twelve hour charge.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Are you on speakerphone.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
No, I'm not can you hear me that?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
I can't hear you. You're just a little bit echoe.
You've got the earbuds in or something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
No, nothing really, okay.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
I hope you hope You're not in the loop. So
you've got the congestion pricing. You go on a road
that has been identified as being congested and then they
stick a tax on it. Let's be honest, it is
a tax. It's an indirect tax. They stick a tax
on it. What is the point of that.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
It's mainly to encourage people to think about whether they
need to be on the network at that time. Obviously,
people getting to go into work don't have options do
the theorreas. There's a bunch of people who can don't
need to make their trip at that time, or maybe
able to use public transport, and that will free the
network up a little bit for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Here's an idea, why don't we just charge the people
that don't need to be on there and the people
who actually do need to be can just go on
about their business.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
If you think that is down a little bit defensive
about all the stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I'm just worried as a guy who can't catch a
bus or a train to get to work at three
o'clock in the morning. I'm just worried about exactly how
this is all going to work?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
News talk has it been right?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
With all the sport that's going on in the world,
you think you'd have something better to do than watch
a bunch of dr drug addits right around on bicycles
in France when you but no, No Jack loves it.
Speaker 7 (03:00):
I think it's the kind of the blend, like the
romance and the agony of it all. The romance and
the agony are just so alluring. You know, the way
that riders slowly decay before your eyes over the three
weeks and over more than three thousand kilometers, The way
(03:20):
that teams have to work to secure individual victories, the
spectators lining the road, running with the leaders, often getting
far closer than would ever be permitted in any other sport.
And then just the psychology of it. I mean it
is madness. Imagine cycling for a couple of hundred kilometers
in intense heat or over a mountain range, only to
(03:42):
get back to your bed at the end of the
day and know you have to do it all again.
The next day, and the next day and the day
after that. I honestly thought after the Lance Armstrong saga
that I was done with the Tour de France.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Maybe it was the Netflix treatment or simply the incredible
generation defining rivalry of the world's two best riders, Polachar
and Vinger Guards. But I am very much back in
the saddle, So that's my pick. I reckon the All
Blacks are well placed to blast the French in Dunedin tonight.
But if you haven't watched it in a while and
(04:19):
you want guaranteed sporting drama, hang around just a few
more hours tonight for stage one of La tour. You
will not be disappointed.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I was pleading referring to them as drug addicts.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I mean, they're drug cheats, and I only say that
because they always turn out to be.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So that's the only reason though that's say that.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
But you know that's if that's your vibe, tell your
boots as Jack did make reference to the All Backs
France game there as well. Of course, he was talking
before it. Here is Paul Miller talking after it. Was
it as bad as the score indicase when I say
bad I mean, you know, the All blackstall one.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
How should All Blacks fans be feeling today about last night?
Speaker 8 (05:10):
Well, I think, hey, Piney, and yeah, good afternoon. But
I think as fans they shouldn't feel too overly disappointed
this French team, even though it was stipulated that, yes,
it is predominably their B side. However, the French flair,
the instinctiveness of the players, the level of their competition,
(05:31):
they were always going to challenge the All Blacks. And
you touched on it initially. Yep, yes, All Blacks were
rusty in that first twenty but and I heard a
comment from Jason Ryan, like, you know, if it was
a blowout score, there wouldn't been much to work on
and they would have missed those crucial things that they
definitely needed to work on from last night's game. And
that's particularly around their ruck time, defensive systems, and the
(05:54):
obvious one is the kickchase. So yeah, it's a building
momentum towards the series. And like yourself, Piney, I believe
that the All Blacks will be a lot better come
the second test in Wellington.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Let's talk about the kick chase.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How do you fix the issues around that?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
That happened last night.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
I think part of the problem is that the over
commitment they have in the actual rocky area around that
twenty two from a lineout or from a broken play,
it none of afis the ability for the runners to
get up and actually nominate to go up and compete
for the ball.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So I was actually at the symphony on Saturday night,
tumb'll break watching my daughter be the principal Claron edis is.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The national youth orchestraph What were we talking about? Oh yeah, Rugby.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So I watched most of the game yesterday, so you know,
I could pretend that I knew what I was talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
And it's a little bit to play it all right.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I had a couple of tries this allowed, didn't they.
But if they continue to kick away the high ball
with these defensive box kicks, a kick away all their position,
I think I'm going to stop watching them, perhaps never
watch them ever again.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think this is the year.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
This has been going on for years, This might be
the year where unless they could stop doing this, we
don't compete well under the high ball, never have.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Why we keep doing it? Are we certainly going to get.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Better at it?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Anyway? Let's leave it at that, right.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Auckland Theater Company's got a new production of Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Hang on, I think I've seen this one, so.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Nice to be speaking with you both. Theo I'm going
to kick off with you. Just explain to us how
different is this production of Romeo and Juliet to the
one that we might have seen two hundred years ago.
Speaker 9 (08:02):
Well, for starters, you've got men and women in the cast,
because I know back then it was probably all men.
So that's nice. But like you said, this is said
in kind of nineteen sixties Milanese style, So think high fashion,
think culture, I think really hot passion. And like you said,
as well, you know, we've got all the actors retaining
(08:24):
their accent. So it's not going to be some British
broadcast network version of Roman Juliet. This is a Romanguli
produced in Auckland.
Speaker 7 (08:32):
Ah fun, phoebe What about the language? Is it still
very much like Romeo Romeo? Where for out that Romeo?
Or is it like Romeo Romeo? Wee you wet boy?
Speaker 10 (08:42):
I mean I guess that the language is very much
the same, and the intention I mean wee wet boy
was valid back then and still valid now. So the
language is the same, the intention is heightened.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Actually, to continue my theme with Humble Briggs, I was
once in a Shakespeare where they said it in nineteen
thirty Italy there was a bambiner on stage a bicycle.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's quite cool. Yes, anyway, I'm just saying, been there,
done that news talk Zi been right off.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
The back of you know his spelling. The domination Guy
Montgomery is really absolutely creaming in Australia at the moment.
Even LOGI success amazing.
Speaker 11 (09:38):
Well, congratulations nominee for Graham Kennedy Award for Most Popular
New Talent at the logis. Did you see that one coming?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
No, I because you don't.
Speaker 12 (09:48):
I don't know how it works, but the networks choose
who they put forward from there, I suppose stable of shows,
and so I had I had no idea I was
in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I had no idea, respectfully that I was new.
Speaker 12 (10:03):
I you know, I always dreamed of being acknowledged as
newcomer before I was balding. But you don't have agency
over these things. So it's very exciting, but it was
certainly a surprise.
Speaker 11 (10:15):
I think it's quite encouraging to know that you can
be New Talent at thirty six years old.
Speaker 12 (10:20):
Yeah, I guess that's another way of looking at it.
I think, Yeah, I honestly don't know what the criteria is,
but it was I was stoked because the logis are
you know, like it's a weird name for an award.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
It stays in their head.
Speaker 12 (10:34):
And my partner, Chelsea Preston Crayford has this same LOGI.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
In our house.
Speaker 12 (10:40):
She won it in like twenty eleven for Underbelly Raiser
and I really want to get one of my own.
Speaker 11 (10:50):
You're never going to hear the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 12 (10:52):
It's like, yeah, if I don't win, it's over. I'm
on the back foot. You only get one chance at
the Newcomer Award.
Speaker 11 (10:58):
You know, it's got nothing to do with your award.
It's got nothing to do with you know how much
you know telling you have. It's actually just about the relationship.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
It's about personal stam in the place I lay my head.
Speaker 11 (11:11):
Who was Graham Kennedy?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Do you know?
Speaker 12 (11:14):
He is an iconic Australian television personality who paved the
way for people whose first name starts with G and
last name ends with why. And it's thanks to Graham
that people like me realized it was possible.
Speaker 11 (11:27):
Do you It's a popularity voter, isn't it. You have
to kind of campaign for votes.
Speaker 12 (11:30):
Yeah, this is one of the issues, is the way
to win the award That these things used to be
judged on merit, you know, ability as judged by a
panel of experts, but now it is genuinely like the
campaign to win the award. Basically it's who does the
best job of promoting the logis on their social media,
So you have to campaign.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You have to tell people to vote for you.
Speaker 12 (11:53):
And you know, some of the other nominees have a
lot of followers on Instagram, so it's a bit of
a or whatever platform it's. It can feel like a
fruitless task, but I have been. I've been chipping away
at it. I do you know, I harbor a desire
to win. I am a competitive person.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Weird, Yeah, I don't get that. I'm more of a
keep my head down.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Hope nobody notices what I'm doing because it will only
cause problems as that's mine who that competitive.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
With board games? I am. But other than that, it's
not so many. It's not about me. Though I am
a glad heart. It's not about me. I keep telling
you it's not about me. But if you what a
bit more of me, I'll be back here again tomorrow.
Get more of this.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Use Talking Talking Said Bean for more from us, Talk
Said b Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcast
on iHeartRadio
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