July 7, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Right Idea. Poorly Executed/Facing the Music/Man, We Hate Banks/When There's No Alternative Transport/Dissing Zoos
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Tuesdays versus yesterday's news. I am Leon Hannon. We're looking
back at Monday. Well it sort of feels like Wednesday
the same reason that we're definitely not looking back at Tuesday,
because that hasn't happened yet. It's happening as we speak.
But you might be listening to this on any hour
of the week. Anyway, I've got bogged down on the
(00:44):
intro already. Let's rash on to see if just into
our journal come back to face the COVID inquiry banks
and the text they pay. Is it enough congestion charges?
Nobody's paying those yet, but will we be? And what
do you think of Zoo's other business is in the
(01:05):
wake of the woman who's lost their arm in Australia,
line went to jump Chump. But before any of that,
speaking of things going chump jump, the people who jumped chump,
the pillows and mushrooms and the woman who's been found
guilty of deliberately feeding them to them.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
What I've come to the conclusion is it's not a
bad way to do it, but the only way to
do it is to make out its next. So the
only way would be to make out you are a
forager and would to be cocky beef Wellington and say, oh, well,
(01:44):
I'm into foraging. Are foraged some mushrooms and then kill
them all with the death caps. Is they got that wrong?
So you'd want to be googling foraging mushrooms, but not
googling death caps. And she herself would have to pretend
she was vegetarians as you'd need them or something along
those lines. That to me, would be the only way
she'd get around it. But the way that I just can't,
for love me think how someone that had went to
(02:05):
all that effort for a number of months, it took
a long time to get the death caps and throwing
away the old d hydrator and they're pretending she was
ill when they all got ill. All seems fru three clumsy.
So what she needed to do was to make out
it was next. And I can't work out why she
didn't do that, because the whole excuse that she'd brought
(02:27):
mushrooms from an Asian shop that must have been death caps. Well,
that wouldn't happen otherwise everyone that brought them from that
shop would be dead. And some people said we discussed
this earlier that in fact.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That she.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That the plan went awry because she thought that no
one would survive the event, there would be no witnesses.
But even if there were no witnesses, I forget how
many were dinner with it, three or four. Even if
there were no witnesses, toxicology would say straight away it
was deathcap mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So that's an interesting take from Marcus there. I wasn't
expecting him to come up with alternative plans that Patterson
could have made to get off, and there was an
(03:25):
interesting way for Marcus to go. I don't need that
kind of advice. I'm never going to kill anybody by
cooking a beef Wellington. That's just not my kind of
a dish. I don't mind eating it, but cooking it
no way is too complicated. If I can't make it
all in one pot at about fifteen minutes, I'm out
(03:49):
news talk ze bean right now. Speaking of people who
need to face the consequences of their actions, I think
Ryan Bridge thinks justin'st a few cinder adourn that is.
Remember she's been in charge of us anyway. I think
he thinks she's got a few questions to answer about COVID,
and this whole inquiry thing that's going on might be
the place to do.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
As somebody who's always claimed their intentions were good, as
somebody who's always claimed they were in politics for the children.
Remember that surely the good of our tamadiki should be
front and center of the mind of one to Cinda
Adoun when deciding whether to front up and be honest
at an inquiry like this, honest about what really went
(04:31):
on behind closed doors, behind those ppe masks. Boris Johnson
appeared at his country's inquiry inquiry, twiddling his fingers and
thumbs as he answered questions put before him. Isn't there
a moral obligation to the people of New Zealand as well?
Here they still live with the consequences of decisions that
she and her cabinet made. She's making money off books
(04:54):
of all sorts of things at the moment, and all
power to her, while many businesses here have never recovered
from the lockdowns. Isn't a little truth telling in order
I was just one of a handful of interviewers who
basically got a go at just Cinda Adourne on a
weekly basis during this time period. And I'm saving the
(05:17):
best bits for a book one day, of course, but
suffice to say there was a lot of image and
stage managing and controlling happening behind the scenes that you
just wouldn't believe. The problem for Jacinda if she decides
not to front is this. It's a question kiwis will
be asking themselves what has she got to hide?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It always surprises. I think news Talks would be listeners.
When the host on news Talks, he'll be remind them
how popular the Labor Party was in the middle of
COVID and Justinder Herding in particular. I wonder if it's
because people did exactly what I did earlier on and
(06:02):
just referred to her as de Cinda and not by
her last names. Because we can't do that with Christopher
Luxen because there's so many Christophers around, and so you
don't feel quite as warm and fuzzy about him, do you.
We're not on a first name basis. I just wonder
if that explained some of the popularity. I don't know.
(06:26):
I've just think most of us blanked all that. If
you ask, most people don't actually want this inquiry. I
think we just want to just forget that it all happened,
don't we talk?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
SI Okay, we hate.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Banks, we all do. Go deny it and unless you
work one, and even then perhaps your job's not going
well and you might hate it as well. So yeah,
if we can get them to pay more tax, that
would be great, as long as they don't pass the
charges on to us.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Of course, who's next? What else don't we like? Who
else do we resent paying because they'll be next to
I don't want a bank to fail. It's not in
the country's best interest for a financial institution to go under.
We've seen the damage done when the B and Z
(07:21):
had to be bailed out, and then the different finance
companies were bailed out. Why on earth would we want
to see banks fail if they're paying their fair share
of tax. I mean, my dad was a bank manager,
but that was ten trillion years ago. I have no
particular ties to the banking world. I don't yearn for
(07:42):
a particular banker. I have no skin in the game
other than a hefty mortgage, which I would love to
see reduced, but I don't necessarily see it's the bank's
fault that they are the ones who profit from lending money.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
The weird thing about the bank situation is that I
don't think we're being tracked or gone now we when
we sign up for a mortgage, you, I mean, it's
actually reasonably like the transaction is so straightforward that I
(08:19):
almost understand it. And we all know how stupid I
am about this kind of thing. You agree to a rate,
that's what you have to pay back. It's not like
the supermarkets. Who are you know? I was in the
supermarket the other day and they had a bolt pack
of cereal, like a one and a half kilo pack
(08:40):
or something, and so you assumed it was going to
be cheaper. And then I looked a little bit closer
at the price one hundred grams and an inegectual fact,
the small pack, not the large pack or the bolt pack,
the small pack would actually worked out cheaper. Stupid to
both two of those. Oh we're talking about right, Are
(09:01):
you happy to pay conduct in charge to get to
it from work? Every day? Probably not?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Coming Auckland CRL rail project means the city will have
an alternative, but introducing it elsewhere like Tildonger, maybe even
Wellington would be unfair. And it's an irony that the
electorate's unwillingness to invest tax money into public transport means
that pressure is now mounting to take money off them
for congestion. And you know you can't escape tax, and
(09:30):
make no mistake about it, Congestion pricing is a tax?
Is it a tax? Technically, taxes are used to raise
revenue for broad public spending. Congestion pricing designed to manage
demand and change behavior, But it's still the government taking
money off you. It feels like a tax and therefore
it's a tax. So it would be very rich for
(09:50):
a national party to claim in the next election we
are not the party of taxation, and that just on
arrests only with the left wing. No, they're going to
tax us for driving on roads. And you know what,
I haven't met any politician from either side who actually,
in their heart of heart doesn't like a good tax,
(10:10):
but some are just too shy to admit it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
News flash, Andrew, the CRL is not going to help
me get to them from work. I'm pretty sure the
CRL doesn't go to sewed ow anyway. In fact, I'm
also pretty sure the CRL is never going to open
(10:34):
and never going to be finished, and it's never going
to carry anything like the number of passengers that they claim.
News Talk Zi Bean can't be such a downer, queen. Sorry, hey,
we'll finish up here dissing zoos. There's a lot of
zoo discing going on yesterday afternoon. This always happens when
(10:55):
you know, somebody gets their own but off by a line.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
This one says, guys, take the zoo out of Wellington
and expense for both animals and humans with a zoo.
Is I always thought Peter Jackson a wetter can create
a Traassic Park theme zoo.
Speaker 8 (11:09):
It's an interesting idea, but they have to be real animals.
You could have animatronic animals. I guess that's what you're
kind of suggesting, that you could that Peter Jackson could
whip up a zoo where it appeared to be drafts
and hippopotami. Yeah, I think that hippopotamuses. Hippopotamus, hippopotami, hippopotami.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Hippopotami are A slightly boring animal to see at the
zoo because you just see the top of the head
of the hpopotamus often, although famously hippopotamus did swim out
of Auckland zoo really and flooding and ended up, you know,
running around Western springs back in the day.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Is that right, I've never heard that story. Yeah, hippopotamus
live in Auckland, Lorraine. How are you?
Speaker 9 (11:52):
I'm good?
Speaker 7 (11:52):
How are you very good? What do you think about zoos?
I hate them and why.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
I just think it's cruel. I mean, I understand that
people want to see animals, but I think it's cruel
that in captivity for human and children's entertainments. And like
you said, the kids love dinosaurs as well, they don't
get to see them in real life. It doesn't mean
they can't still get some joy out of learning about them.
(12:23):
I think that that hippopotamus did the right thing, and
if he's prepared to swim out of a zoo, it
just goes to show none of them like it in there, yep.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
The Great Escape.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Can I just read you something. The plural of hippopotamus
can be either hippopotamuses or hipopop home Obviously, I can't
read it can be either hippopotamuses or hippopotamie well, both
are grammatically correct. Hippopotamuses is the more commonly used and
preferred plural form in English, according to several sources, including
(12:58):
Oxford Reference and dictionary dot Com. So that's the AI
overview Google. This is the problem with the world today,
isn't it. It can be either according to Hour and
I've got some sorts here. One of them is a
thing called dictionary dot Com. Sounds reliable, doesn't it. For
(13:23):
it is sources, Let's be true. This is the whole
efficacy effectiveness thing all over again. Is it just enough
people start saying it wrong and it becomes right? What
are we talking about? I feel like I've asked that
several times today, and that's why this podcast has gone
on so long. I'm going to bring it to a
(13:43):
halt and we'll start it up again tomorrow. I'll see
you the US.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Talk it Be for more from News Talk said B.
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go. With our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you talk.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for
Tuesdays versus yesterday's news. I am Leon Hannon. We're looking
back at Monday. Well it sort of feels like Wednesday
the same reason that we're definitely not looking back at Tuesday,
because that hasn't happened yet. It's happening as we speak.
But you might be listening to this on any hour
of the week. Anyway, I've got bogged down on the
(00:44):
intro already. Let's rash on to see if just into
our journal come back to face the COVID inquiry banks
and the text they pay. Is it enough congestion charges?
Nobody's paying those yet, but will we be? And what
do you think of Zoo's other business is in the
(01:05):
wake of the woman who's lost their arm in Australia,
line went to jump Chump. But before any of that,
speaking of things going chump jump, the people who jumped chump,
the pillows and mushrooms and the woman who's been found
guilty of deliberately feeding them to them.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
What I've come to the conclusion is it's not a
bad way to do it, but the only way to
do it is to make out its next. So the
only way would be to make out you are a
forager and would to be cocky beef Wellington and say, oh, well,
(01:44):
I'm into foraging. Are foraged some mushrooms and then kill
them all with the death caps. Is they got that wrong?
So you'd want to be googling foraging mushrooms, but not
googling death caps. And she herself would have to pretend
she was vegetarians as you'd need them or something along
those lines. That to me, would be the only way
she'd get around it. But the way that I just can't,
for love me think how someone that had went to
(02:05):
all that effort for a number of months, it took
a long time to get the death caps and throwing
away the old d hydrator and they're pretending she was
ill when they all got ill. All seems fru three clumsy.
So what she needed to do was to make out
it was next. And I can't work out why she
didn't do that, because the whole excuse that she'd brought
(02:27):
mushrooms from an Asian shop that must have been death caps. Well,
that wouldn't happen otherwise everyone that brought them from that
shop would be dead. And some people said we discussed
this earlier that in fact.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
That she.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That the plan went awry because she thought that no
one would survive the event, there would be no witnesses.
But even if there were no witnesses, I forget how
many were dinner with it, three or four. Even if
there were no witnesses, toxicology would say straight away it
was deathcap mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So that's an interesting take from Marcus there. I wasn't
expecting him to come up with alternative plans that Patterson
could have made to get off, and there was an
(03:25):
interesting way for Marcus to go. I don't need that
kind of advice. I'm never going to kill anybody by
cooking a beef Wellington. That's just not my kind of
a dish. I don't mind eating it, but cooking it
no way is too complicated. If I can't make it
all in one pot at about fifteen minutes, I'm out
(03:49):
news talk ze bean right now. Speaking of people who
need to face the consequences of their actions, I think
Ryan Bridge thinks justin'st a few cinder adourn that is.
Remember she's been in charge of us anyway. I think
he thinks she's got a few questions to answer about COVID,
and this whole inquiry thing that's going on might be
the place to do.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
As somebody who's always claimed their intentions were good, as
somebody who's always claimed they were in politics for the children.
Remember that surely the good of our tamadiki should be
front and center of the mind of one to Cinda
Adoun when deciding whether to front up and be honest
at an inquiry like this, honest about what really went
(04:31):
on behind closed doors, behind those ppe masks. Boris Johnson
appeared at his country's inquiry inquiry, twiddling his fingers and
thumbs as he answered questions put before him. Isn't there
a moral obligation to the people of New Zealand as well?
Here they still live with the consequences of decisions that
she and her cabinet made. She's making money off books
(04:54):
of all sorts of things at the moment, and all
power to her, while many businesses here have never recovered
from the lockdowns. Isn't a little truth telling in order
I was just one of a handful of interviewers who
basically got a go at just Cinda Adourne on a
weekly basis during this time period. And I'm saving the
(05:17):
best bits for a book one day, of course, but
suffice to say there was a lot of image and
stage managing and controlling happening behind the scenes that you
just wouldn't believe. The problem for Jacinda if she decides
not to front is this. It's a question kiwis will
be asking themselves what has she got to hide?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
It always surprises. I think news Talks would be listeners.
When the host on news Talks, he'll be remind them
how popular the Labor Party was in the middle of
COVID and Justinder Herding in particular. I wonder if it's
because people did exactly what I did earlier on and
(06:02):
just referred to her as de Cinda and not by
her last names. Because we can't do that with Christopher
Luxen because there's so many Christophers around, and so you
don't feel quite as warm and fuzzy about him, do you.
We're not on a first name basis. I just wonder
if that explained some of the popularity. I don't know.
(06:26):
I've just think most of us blanked all that. If
you ask, most people don't actually want this inquiry. I
think we just want to just forget that it all happened,
don't we talk?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
SI Okay, we hate.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Banks, we all do. Go deny it and unless you
work one, and even then perhaps your job's not going
well and you might hate it as well. So yeah,
if we can get them to pay more tax, that
would be great, as long as they don't pass the
charges on to us.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Of course, who's next? What else don't we like? Who
else do we resent paying because they'll be next to
I don't want a bank to fail. It's not in
the country's best interest for a financial institution to go under.
We've seen the damage done when the B and Z
(07:21):
had to be bailed out, and then the different finance
companies were bailed out. Why on earth would we want
to see banks fail if they're paying their fair share
of tax. I mean, my dad was a bank manager,
but that was ten trillion years ago. I have no
particular ties to the banking world. I don't yearn for
(07:42):
a particular banker. I have no skin in the game
other than a hefty mortgage, which I would love to
see reduced, but I don't necessarily see it's the bank's
fault that they are the ones who profit from lending money.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
The weird thing about the bank situation is that I
don't think we're being tracked or gone now we when
we sign up for a mortgage, you, I mean, it's
actually reasonably like the transaction is so straightforward that I
(08:19):
almost understand it. And we all know how stupid I
am about this kind of thing. You agree to a rate,
that's what you have to pay back. It's not like
the supermarkets. Who are you know? I was in the
supermarket the other day and they had a bolt pack
of cereal, like a one and a half kilo pack
(08:40):
or something, and so you assumed it was going to
be cheaper. And then I looked a little bit closer
at the price one hundred grams and an inegectual fact,
the small pack, not the large pack or the bolt pack,
the small pack would actually worked out cheaper. Stupid to
both two of those. Oh we're talking about right, Are
(09:01):
you happy to pay conduct in charge to get to
it from work? Every day? Probably not?
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Coming Auckland CRL rail project means the city will have
an alternative, but introducing it elsewhere like Tildonger, maybe even
Wellington would be unfair. And it's an irony that the
electorate's unwillingness to invest tax money into public transport means
that pressure is now mounting to take money off them
for congestion. And you know you can't escape tax, and
(09:30):
make no mistake about it, Congestion pricing is a tax?
Is it a tax? Technically, taxes are used to raise
revenue for broad public spending. Congestion pricing designed to manage
demand and change behavior, But it's still the government taking
money off you. It feels like a tax and therefore
it's a tax. So it would be very rich for
(09:50):
a national party to claim in the next election we
are not the party of taxation, and that just on
arrests only with the left wing. No, they're going to
tax us for driving on roads. And you know what,
I haven't met any politician from either side who actually,
in their heart of heart doesn't like a good tax,
(10:10):
but some are just too shy to admit it.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
News flash, Andrew, the CRL is not going to help
me get to them from work. I'm pretty sure the
CRL doesn't go to sewed ow anyway. In fact, I'm
also pretty sure the CRL is never going to open
(10:34):
and never going to be finished, and it's never going
to carry anything like the number of passengers that they claim.
News Talk Zi Bean can't be such a downer, queen. Sorry, hey,
we'll finish up here dissing zoos. There's a lot of
zoo discing going on yesterday afternoon. This always happens when
(10:55):
you know, somebody gets their own but off by a line.
Speaker 7 (10:58):
This one says, guys, take the zoo out of Wellington
and expense for both animals and humans with a zoo.
Is I always thought Peter Jackson a wetter can create
a Traassic Park theme zoo.
Speaker 8 (11:09):
It's an interesting idea, but they have to be real animals.
You could have animatronic animals. I guess that's what you're
kind of suggesting, that you could that Peter Jackson could
whip up a zoo where it appeared to be drafts
and hippopotami. Yeah, I think that hippopotamuses. Hippopotamus, hippopotami, hippopotami.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
Hippopotami are A slightly boring animal to see at the
zoo because you just see the top of the head
of the hpopotamus often, although famously hippopotamus did swim out
of Auckland zoo really and flooding and ended up, you know,
running around Western springs back in the day.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Is that right, I've never heard that story. Yeah, hippopotamus
live in Auckland, Lorraine. How are you?
Speaker 9 (11:52):
I'm good?
Speaker 7 (11:52):
How are you very good? What do you think about zoos?
I hate them and why.
Speaker 9 (12:01):
I just think it's cruel. I mean, I understand that
people want to see animals, but I think it's cruel
that in captivity for human and children's entertainments. And like
you said, the kids love dinosaurs as well, they don't
get to see them in real life. It doesn't mean
they can't still get some joy out of learning about them.
(12:23):
I think that that hippopotamus did the right thing, and
if he's prepared to swim out of a zoo, it
just goes to show none of them like it in there, yep.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
The Great Escape.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Can I just read you something. The plural of hippopotamus
can be either hippopotamuses or hipopop home Obviously, I can't
read it can be either hippopotamuses or hippopotamie well, both
are grammatically correct. Hippopotamuses is the more commonly used and
preferred plural form in English, according to several sources, including
(12:58):
Oxford Reference and dictionary dot Com. So that's the AI
overview Google. This is the problem with the world today,
isn't it. It can be either according to Hour and
I've got some sorts here. One of them is a
thing called dictionary dot Com. Sounds reliable, doesn't it. For
(13:23):
it is sources, Let's be true. This is the whole
efficacy effectiveness thing all over again. Is it just enough
people start saying it wrong and it becomes right? What
are we talking about? I feel like I've asked that
several times today, and that's why this podcast has gone
on so long. I'm going to bring it to a
(13:43):
halt and we'll start it up again tomorrow. I'll see
you the US.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Talk it Be for more from News Talk said B.
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