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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. Ryan wants a word about
the Consumer Institute's proposed petition about supermarket pricing, and kind
(00:44):
of related to that is the pricing of butter, which
seems to be a national obsession now. I think it
was eggs in America towards the end of last year
and then coming into this year, everybody was complaining about
how expensive eggs were. Trump's single handedly solved that somehow
(01:05):
so laying laying them in himself or something. But what
do we do about the price of butter? Here? So
we just can't afford it? Apparently?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Why do we care so much about the price of butter?
Let's say it's ten dollars? How much butter are we consuming?
Is that such a massive problem in our country that
we spending twenty five percent of our time talking about
the price of god damn butter? How much butter do
you consume?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Tyler Oh, a block a month if I'm lucky, not
even anything.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, we've got a block that sits up on the
shelf and it's a little butter thing. Yep. Sometimes we
use it if we need it, but it's not the
end of the goddamn world.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, I did the mass, So that's two dollars fifty.
I'm using of butter per week. I give more to
people on the you know, the homeless population on it
every day week. You know, I'm not worried about two
dollars fifty with the butter per week.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's what's going on? Have people gone crazy? Can someone
explain to me why we're hearing so much? Why is
Nikola Willis having special inquiries into the cost of buzzer butter.
Why have we got TV one reporters hassling people on
the street, chasing them down the street like they've been
evolved in a water level scandal. What is going on?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Why are we losing our minds?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It is so expensive. Don't buy butter. You're not going
to end up starving to death or anything significant changing
in your life if you don't buy butter this week,
or cut down on butter such that you're not bankrupting.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yourself love it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Is there something wrong with people at the moment that
we're talking about butter so much? Oh God, damn cares.
It's like the price of eggs in China.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That old saying those productivity hours we've spent been outraged
by the price of butter. Come old people.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah. Interesting you hear that Matt keeps his butter in
the cupboard and not the fridge, like if he's not
using it very often. I feel like that's going off
in depending on how coolly he runs his house. I
suppose news talk zan and saying that I kind of
agree with both Matt and Tyler. We're not massive consumers
(03:03):
of butter in the household other than for baking. That's
seem to be the main time you need it, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
After hyping the meeting, after Mikey chasing Miles down the street,
after the News going live with the banner across the
TV that the Fonterra meeting is under way, after all
of that, nothing is happening, because nothing can happen because
Fonterra is not ripping us off. We're simply paying the
same international price as everyone for butter, which Nicola knows
because she's an intelligent woman and woman and because she
(03:32):
used to work for Fonterra as well. So nothing has
come from the meeting. There is no announcement about what
is being fixed, Miles Hurral is not resigning or apologizing,
and the price of butter is not dropping. All that
has happened is that Nicola Willis has fronted up for
the media today and told them that Miles Hurrell will
talk to them at some time soon to explain how
(03:52):
the price of butter works, which is a nothing outcome,
in which case you have to ask yourself the question,
what was the point of the meeting? If Nicola actually
truly does understand the mechanics of butter pricing, and presumably
then also understands that Fonterra isn't ripping us off, and
also had no plans to announce anything after this meeting, why.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Hype the meeting? I can answer that question for you,
because she wanted to pass the buck. She wanted to
blame Fonterra because National is feeling the pressure over the
fact that Labour is now more trusted to deal with
the cost of living crisis than National is. According to
the IPSOS survey, which is out this month because the
heat is being cracked up, cranked up on National who
have talked a very big game about getting the economy
(04:30):
back on track, and yet eighteen months in it's still
very much off track to the extent that people cannot afford.
Butter Nikola tried to shift the blame from National to
Fonterra and it didn't work. Now, the lesson here is
that performance politics doesn't work. Blaming the supermarkets but doing nothing,
blaming Fonterra but doing nothing, blaming the banks but doing nothing.
(04:52):
That kind of stuff doesn't work, and in fact it's risky.
It runs the risk of backfiring, which is exactly what's
happening here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean they should have just said, look, there's
nothing we can do. It is what, it is not
our fault. We just make awesome and everybody wants it.
Why hasn't the government taken that approach? Very weird, isn't it?
What do you think markets?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Stop talking about it, Nichola, Willison, do something about it
with the supermarkets because people are getting sick of your
call about the supermarkets. If you can do something, do something,
if you don't shut up about it, because you're stringing
people along and people are doing it tough.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Wow, that was short and sweet and even brutal from
markets there. He's obviously a very passionate about a user
you go, so, yeah, he's mentioned the supermarkets there. This
all seems to be part of it, doesn't it. And
(05:50):
now the supermarkets are in trouble for there seems to
be the ongoing thing anks about people aren't quite sure
how much things cost. Who can remember how much things
were going to cost by the time they get up
to the checkout or some people can't.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
Apparently this business with the supermarkets and they're pricing consuming
New Zealand and you didn't catch it yesterday came out
with a petition which we should all sign, apparently, and
they want change. They want to stop prices being incorrectly labeled.
So when you go to the checkout and you scan
your receipts and something's different to what you expected, something
is different to what was on the shelf, then under
(06:24):
their plan, you would get a refund on the product
and you would get to take the product home for free.
The idea is that if you make the punishment more
than fit the crime, then they'll stop doing it, which
I get. But the supermarkets reckon, and consumer ended calls
this spin, but they reckon that there's just too many products,
and they honestly make mistakes more often than not. It's
(06:49):
out by literally a few cents, you know, so like
five ninety nine instead of five ninety five. The key
question here is whether we think the supermarkets are doing
this on purpose, or whether they're just large organizations that
occasionally get small things wrong and correct the errors when
they're spotted and give refunds where necessary and where people
have asked for them. If we're saying they are deliberately
(07:12):
doing this, that's a whole other thing. And I'm not
saying that supermarkets should be given a hall pass here.
But if we're talking about a few million dollars a year,
which is what they think it adds up to spread
over a population of five million people, plus the free
products and the cost of those, on top of refunds
that they would have to pay for, and the staff
(07:35):
hours of going around and checking all the prices. Again,
you've got to ask yourself if the potential payoff is
worth the cost of pushing a policy like that one.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, the whole you know, is at the price of
the thing above or below, and the shelf above or
the shelf below. That is confusing. And I've told I
think I've told you my story about the boxer the
bulk box just right, which was actually quite a bit
more expensive than just the smaller sized box. So it
(08:08):
is a pain having to do quadratic equations in your
head when you go to the supermarket. I mean, I
go on a Friday morning. That's sort of the last
unpleasant task of the week after home from work. It's
possibly not the best time to be trying to do
complicated myths. Advanced trigonometry and the like. Calculus. They're different things, right,
(08:34):
news talk, has it been okay everybody's swearing all the time?
Have you noticed? I think Trump really started it off
when he told Iran and Israel they had no idea
what they were doing except in stronger language. Is Andrew
offended or he doesn't mind it?
Speaker 9 (08:56):
So it appears we live in an age where it's
okay for politicians to swear to the press, to swear
in public. Donald Trump is leading the way. He's dropping
the F bomb all over the shop about Russia. He's
been using the BS word more often than I've ever
heard any American President do is a side of the times,
and you could argue it makes politicians more relatable, because
heaven knows, we're all potty mouth in private, aren't we.
(09:20):
But you could also say that leaders of countries should
be held accountable to higher values. And it's not hard
to not swear. As broadcasters. If we swear the way
the politicians swore, we'd BSA complaints all over the place
we hold ourselves in and I can tell you behind
the scenes we swear. So anyway, it's a little question,
(09:46):
but I'm going to ask it. Should politicians be allowed
to swear? The Prime Minister Chris Luxen almost dropped an
F bomb yesterday because Chris Hipkins was calling the Family
Boost program of failure. Here's what he said, I'm not
taking any lectures from freaking Chris Hipkins or the Labor Party. Now,
if you heard that in passing, you might think he
(10:07):
actually said the word not taking any lectures from freaking
Chris Hipkins or the Labor Party, but he didn't. He
said fricking. And I can say frickin'. Frickin' is allowed
under BSA rules, but he said frickin And it just
surprised me a little bit to surprise other people. It
surprised people enough to say, Oh, Christopher Luxon got so
upset that he almost swore to the press about Chris Hipkins.
(10:29):
So here is a talk back topic if you want.
Are you okay with politicians having a swear in public
or is it something they should have the maturity to control? Personally?
I didn't mind it. In fact, I thought it humanized Chris.
He's angry, he said, fricking so what.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, I'm not sure that it does humanize him because
nobody actually does say freakin They usually just say what
they actually mean. He does say it a lot, though.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Bakers and cakes in career at freaking big market.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And all are going through freaking.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Glass windows again, which is great, and.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We're working freaking hard every single day to make sure
that we're cleaning.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Up the mess.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And there was advice not to whack.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Them all together into one big super model called Health
New Zealand in the middle of the freaking pandemic.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So yeah, it does seem to be one of his
favorite words. He's really gone him with it, and extually
for a guy who claims to be as outstanding and
as Christian as he does he does use a bit
of strong language. Isn't he done a kick ass.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
Job one hundred day plan to be brutally.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Honest with you? It's another favorite of his.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, I think it's a kick ass solution.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, he just once he gets a word, he really does.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Using honestly can have a kick ass feature.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I'm feeling more and more uncomfortable about the way he talks.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
Actually, you know, at the moment, we need to get
this country sort of turned around and moving forward positively,
and that's where the focus needs to be. But every
week we're dicking around having these conversations, which is unhelpful.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, so no more. Perhaps he's off on the dicken
a freaking for a little while, Christopher, do you reckon? Sorry?
I should have done some kind of strong language advisory
at the beginning of all of this. You never know
what you're going to get. I am Glen Hart, and
I'll be back with more of us tomorrow. I don't
(12:17):
know what kind of language we'll be doing there. Use
talking talking?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Has it been for more from used talks it b
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday. Ryan wants a word about
the Consumer Institute's proposed petition about supermarket pricing, and kind
(00:44):
of related to that is the pricing of butter, which
seems to be a national obsession now. I think it
was eggs in America towards the end of last year
and then coming into this year, everybody was complaining about
how expensive eggs were. Trump's single handedly solved that somehow
(01:05):
so laying laying them in himself or something. But what
do we do about the price of butter? Here? So
we just can't afford it? Apparently?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Why do we care so much about the price of butter?
Let's say it's ten dollars? How much butter are we consuming?
Is that such a massive problem in our country that
we spending twenty five percent of our time talking about
the price of god damn butter? How much butter do
you consume?
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Tyler Oh, a block a month if I'm lucky, not
even anything.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, we've got a block that sits up on the
shelf and it's a little butter thing. Yep. Sometimes we
use it if we need it, but it's not the
end of the goddamn world.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, I did the mass, So that's two dollars fifty.
I'm using of butter per week. I give more to
people on the you know, the homeless population on it
every day week. You know, I'm not worried about two
dollars fifty with the butter per week.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
It's what's going on? Have people gone crazy? Can someone
explain to me why we're hearing so much? Why is
Nikola Willis having special inquiries into the cost of buzzer butter.
Why have we got TV one reporters hassling people on
the street, chasing them down the street like they've been
evolved in a water level scandal. What is going on?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Why are we losing our minds?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
It is so expensive. Don't buy butter. You're not going
to end up starving to death or anything significant changing
in your life if you don't buy butter this week,
or cut down on butter such that you're not bankrupting.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Yourself love it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Is there something wrong with people at the moment that
we're talking about butter so much? Oh God, damn cares.
It's like the price of eggs in China.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
That old saying those productivity hours we've spent been outraged
by the price of butter. Come old people.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah. Interesting you hear that Matt keeps his butter in
the cupboard and not the fridge, like if he's not
using it very often. I feel like that's going off
in depending on how coolly he runs his house. I
suppose news talk zan and saying that I kind of
agree with both Matt and Tyler. We're not massive consumers
(03:03):
of butter in the household other than for baking. That's
seem to be the main time you need it, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
After hyping the meeting, after Mikey chasing Miles down the street,
after the News going live with the banner across the
TV that the Fonterra meeting is under way, after all
of that, nothing is happening, because nothing can happen because
Fonterra is not ripping us off. We're simply paying the
same international price as everyone for butter, which Nicola knows
because she's an intelligent woman and woman and because she
(03:32):
used to work for Fonterra as well. So nothing has
come from the meeting. There is no announcement about what
is being fixed, Miles Hurral is not resigning or apologizing,
and the price of butter is not dropping. All that
has happened is that Nicola Willis has fronted up for
the media today and told them that Miles Hurrell will
talk to them at some time soon to explain how
(03:52):
the price of butter works, which is a nothing outcome,
in which case you have to ask yourself the question,
what was the point of the meeting? If Nicola actually
truly does understand the mechanics of butter pricing, and presumably
then also understands that Fonterra isn't ripping us off, and
also had no plans to announce anything after this meeting, why.
Speaker 7 (04:09):
Hype the meeting? I can answer that question for you,
because she wanted to pass the buck. She wanted to
blame Fonterra because National is feeling the pressure over the
fact that Labour is now more trusted to deal with
the cost of living crisis than National is. According to
the IPSOS survey, which is out this month because the
heat is being cracked up, cranked up on National who
have talked a very big game about getting the economy
(04:30):
back on track, and yet eighteen months in it's still
very much off track to the extent that people cannot afford.
Butter Nikola tried to shift the blame from National to
Fonterra and it didn't work. Now, the lesson here is
that performance politics doesn't work. Blaming the supermarkets but doing nothing,
blaming Fonterra but doing nothing, blaming the banks but doing nothing.
(04:52):
That kind of stuff doesn't work, and in fact it's risky.
It runs the risk of backfiring, which is exactly what's
happening here.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, I mean they should have just said, look, there's
nothing we can do. It is what, it is not
our fault. We just make awesome and everybody wants it.
Why hasn't the government taken that approach? Very weird, isn't it?
What do you think markets?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Stop talking about it, Nichola, Willison, do something about it
with the supermarkets because people are getting sick of your
call about the supermarkets. If you can do something, do something,
if you don't shut up about it, because you're stringing
people along and people are doing it tough.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Wow, that was short and sweet and even brutal from
markets there. He's obviously a very passionate about a user
you go, so, yeah, he's mentioned the supermarkets there. This
all seems to be part of it, doesn't it. And
(05:50):
now the supermarkets are in trouble for there seems to
be the ongoing thing anks about people aren't quite sure
how much things cost. Who can remember how much things
were going to cost by the time they get up
to the checkout or some people can't.
Speaker 8 (06:04):
Apparently this business with the supermarkets and they're pricing consuming
New Zealand and you didn't catch it yesterday came out
with a petition which we should all sign, apparently, and
they want change. They want to stop prices being incorrectly labeled.
So when you go to the checkout and you scan
your receipts and something's different to what you expected, something
is different to what was on the shelf, then under
(06:24):
their plan, you would get a refund on the product
and you would get to take the product home for free.
The idea is that if you make the punishment more
than fit the crime, then they'll stop doing it, which
I get. But the supermarkets reckon, and consumer ended calls
this spin, but they reckon that there's just too many products,
and they honestly make mistakes more often than not. It's
(06:49):
out by literally a few cents, you know, so like
five ninety nine instead of five ninety five. The key
question here is whether we think the supermarkets are doing
this on purpose, or whether they're just large organizations that
occasionally get small things wrong and correct the errors when
they're spotted and give refunds where necessary and where people
have asked for them. If we're saying they are deliberately
(07:12):
doing this, that's a whole other thing. And I'm not
saying that supermarkets should be given a hall pass here.
But if we're talking about a few million dollars a year,
which is what they think it adds up to spread
over a population of five million people, plus the free
products and the cost of those, on top of refunds
that they would have to pay for, and the staff
(07:35):
hours of going around and checking all the prices. Again,
you've got to ask yourself if the potential payoff is
worth the cost of pushing a policy like that one.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, the whole you know, is at the price of
the thing above or below, and the shelf above or
the shelf below. That is confusing. And I've told I
think I've told you my story about the boxer the
bulk box just right, which was actually quite a bit
more expensive than just the smaller sized box. So it
(08:08):
is a pain having to do quadratic equations in your
head when you go to the supermarket. I mean, I
go on a Friday morning. That's sort of the last
unpleasant task of the week after home from work. It's
possibly not the best time to be trying to do
complicated myths. Advanced trigonometry and the like. Calculus. They're different things, right,
(08:34):
news talk, has it been okay everybody's swearing all the time?
Have you noticed? I think Trump really started it off
when he told Iran and Israel they had no idea
what they were doing except in stronger language. Is Andrew
offended or he doesn't mind it?
Speaker 9 (08:56):
So it appears we live in an age where it's
okay for politicians to swear to the press, to swear
in public. Donald Trump is leading the way. He's dropping
the F bomb all over the shop about Russia. He's
been using the BS word more often than I've ever
heard any American President do is a side of the times,
and you could argue it makes politicians more relatable, because
heaven knows, we're all potty mouth in private, aren't we.
(09:20):
But you could also say that leaders of countries should
be held accountable to higher values. And it's not hard
to not swear. As broadcasters. If we swear the way
the politicians swore, we'd BSA complaints all over the place
we hold ourselves in and I can tell you behind
the scenes we swear. So anyway, it's a little question,
(09:46):
but I'm going to ask it. Should politicians be allowed
to swear? The Prime Minister Chris Luxen almost dropped an
F bomb yesterday because Chris Hipkins was calling the Family
Boost program of failure. Here's what he said, I'm not
taking any lectures from freaking Chris Hipkins or the Labor Party. Now,
if you heard that in passing, you might think he
(10:07):
actually said the word not taking any lectures from freaking
Chris Hipkins or the Labor Party, but he didn't. He
said fricking. And I can say frickin'. Frickin' is allowed
under BSA rules, but he said frickin And it just
surprised me a little bit to surprise other people. It
surprised people enough to say, Oh, Christopher Luxon got so
upset that he almost swore to the press about Chris Hipkins.
(10:29):
So here is a talk back topic if you want.
Are you okay with politicians having a swear in public
or is it something they should have the maturity to control? Personally?
I didn't mind it. In fact, I thought it humanized Chris.
He's angry, he said, fricking so what.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, I'm not sure that it does humanize him because
nobody actually does say freakin They usually just say what
they actually mean. He does say it a lot, though.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Bakers and cakes in career at freaking big market.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And all are going through freaking.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Glass windows again, which is great, and.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
We're working freaking hard every single day to make sure
that we're cleaning.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Up the mess.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
And there was advice not to whack.
Speaker 9 (11:10):
Them all together into one big super model called Health
New Zealand in the middle of the freaking pandemic.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
So yeah, it does seem to be one of his
favorite words. He's really gone him with it, and extually
for a guy who claims to be as outstanding and
as Christian as he does he does use a bit
of strong language. Isn't he done a kick ass.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
Job one hundred day plan to be brutally.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Honest with you? It's another favorite of his.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Well, I think it's a kick ass solution.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, he just once he gets a word, he really does.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Using honestly can have a kick ass feature.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I'm feeling more and more uncomfortable about the way he talks.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
Actually, you know, at the moment, we need to get
this country sort of turned around and moving forward positively,
and that's where the focus needs to be. But every
week we're dicking around having these conversations, which is unhelpful.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, so no more. Perhaps he's off on the dicken
a freaking for a little while, Christopher, do you reckon? Sorry?
I should have done some kind of strong language advisory
at the beginning of all of this. You never know
what you're going to get. I am Glen Hart, and
I'll be back with more of us tomorrow. I don't
(12:17):
know what kind of language we'll be doing there. Use
talking talking?
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Has it been for more from used talks it b
listen live on air or online and keep our shows
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