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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the
Weekend edition. First with yesterday's news, I'm Glen Heart and
we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday. What a weekend?
Getting old hurts? It's Jack Thames finding out Stuart Nash
is obviously going to be running for New Zealand first
(00:46):
and next year's election. Will he Exley admit it? Richard Armitage,
you'll know hi as an actor. He's also an author.
Before any of that. The All Blacks unfortunately ended my
career as the country's most insightful sports pundit by winning
at Eden Park. Oh, I can't be writing all the time?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
What's the rands out? First of all, in general terms,
when you think back to the performance the All Black
spot on last.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Night, Oh, physical, super physical from the start, and yeah
it didn't really change because there was a gritty performances
to hang in the all the way to the end.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
What were you proudest of as a coaching group.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I think the leaders just the way they led on
the field, in presher moments. They stood up. They're really
clear around what they wanted to do, and they drove
the week and they drove the efforts out there. To
start with.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
At twenty four seventeen ahead Ardie Savie wants to turnover
penaly Right at the end, you must have thought you
had it won, but somehow South Africa got the ball
back and came again. How are the emotions then right
at the end as they as they had ball in
hand and you had to repel one more attack.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, I mean believe the more clinical than a couple
of areas there to start with, Bowie. We back our
our defense and the efforts of boys to keep getting
up and keep showing up for their mate. So yeah,
definitely made it a an eighty minute performance for the crowd,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Indeed.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I mean, I know I was wrong, but when Finlay
Christy like the very first thing that all Blacks did
in that game was a defensive box kick, I couldn't
believe it and I thought, ah, I'm in here, I've
got this absolutely right. Little did I know that the
(02:40):
South Africans We're going to do even more stupid things
than we did.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
News Talk Zen I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Know why I get so upset about these things. I
don't even really like rugby that actually anymore. Francisca, on
the other hand, she just thought the whole thing was
great no matter who won.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
The All Blacks and the Spring Box were playing for
the rugby championship. But it's the general sense of excitement
around the country indicated there is so much more than that.
It's about so much more than that there is I
think that this is probably one of the greatest rivalries
in sport, and we heard all about it, didn't we
last week? Ardie Saviera is one hundredths tests and all
(03:16):
the stats around Eden Park's history, and as much as
John Kerwin was right the team should focus on the
match in front of them and forget the history. There's
no doubt the All Blacks were invigorated by everything that
came with the occasion. And in just a moment we'll
talk to anstorm about the game and the All Blacks performance.
But one of the best things about sport like last
(03:37):
night is it it's a distraction. Twenty twenty five hasn't
quite been the cracker we'd hoped it would be, and
the spring weathers packed up a bit. We needed a
good night of entertainment. There's nothing like a game of
sport to united community or country. It's a good feeling, right.
We all sort of come together behind something. The Tour
de France got me through the short days of winter.
(03:59):
Over the last few weeks, the US Tennis Open has
got me dreaming I can still play tennis. The Warriors, Gosh,
they just keep us guessing week after week, don't they?
And the whole family has an opinion on if one
at the dinner table. I've come to realize I generally
love sport more than who wins or losers. If the
game is good and fair and it gives us a thrill,
(04:20):
then I'm happy with that. It's just a smidgeon better
when it's a Kiwi team who wins.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What's the game good? I must admit I didn't watch
it live. I was at the theater Saturday night. And
I encourage anybody who's getting a bit sick of watching
those defensive box kicks being gobbled up by the opposition
time and time and time and time and time again,
to yeah, give something like better. Ago don't see noises off,
(04:46):
They've seen the stage there. It's great talk, sib Right,
it sounds like Jack's semi professional sporting career might be over. Uh,
he's got an injury that's just not getting better. Sucks.
He's so old, Jack Dame. Now he's the stuff like
this is happening to him. Can you believe it?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Quitting football has felt like a threshold. I've never had
an injury that didn't improve in my life. I've never
not been able to play something before. And then last
week I faced a reckoning. I visited a primary school
and the kids encouraged me to sit with them on
the mat and pose for a photo. It was all
(05:27):
like totally innocent enough, and you know how these things go.
You're sort of crossing your legs and sitting on the mat. Well,
it's usually the kind of thing that you give zero
notice to. You don't think about it until one day
you can't do it. Honestly, it was agony. I kind
of folded myself down as best I could, and yet
in the photo I don't even get halfway to the ground.
(05:49):
My butt is on the ground, but my knees are
up at nipple height.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I look like a capital X.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
When I finished at the school, there was a text
waiting on my phone, who's in for football next season?
And most of the guys quickly replied, yep, ken, yep, yep, yep,
I'm in two. When you're young, most of us don't
imagine a point in life living with physical limitations. We
never asked when dad started wincing as he reached for
(06:19):
his shoelaces. We didn't question why grandma shuffles so much.
And then one day it begins. One day it starts.
You have to start saying no.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean, I had to look it up because I
often make fun of Jack because of his baby face
that he's, yeah, he's only twelve years old, but he
is actually thirty eight? What what? And oldie no wonder
he's falling the pieces the thirty eight Stuart Nash is
another guy who seems to age in reverse. Boy, he's
(06:54):
looks better and better every time I see him, and
it seems like he's you know, well, he's hanging around
with New Zealand. First, what other reason would there be
to hang around with New Zealand? First?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How long have you felt drawn to New Zealand?
Speaker 8 (07:09):
First, okay, let me start by saying, I actually didn't
put my hat in the ring on my hand up
Zilm First MP. I had been on the radio commentating
for a little while about about my political allegiances and
where I see things and my politics like quite squarely
the Zilm First at the moment for a whole number
of reasons we can talk about if you'd like. But
(07:30):
yesterday's speech was a was not a play to be
in New Zilm First MP.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It feels like that's where it's going, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Well potentially, but you know, I'm not so arrogant to
think that I can just you know, give a speech
Wilson when there's a whole party process to go through
in terms of determining who will stand where, how things
will get sorted. So you know, there is a process
to go through. Whether I go through that process or
not remains to be seen. But at this stage I
just do want to be clear. No decision has been
made by myself or the party, but I think I
(08:02):
made it very clear that my allegiances at this point,
certainly in terms of sex and the way politics has
played and the policy is out there in the way
that delivery is undertaken. New Zilm First is the party
that that I sort of more cross your lined than
anyone out there at the moment.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, I must say, just about everyone I've spoken to
just assumes that it's a foregone conclusion that you're going
to stick your hat in the ring to be a candidate.
Have you had conversations? I mean, we're talking about selection processes.
I guess that you can't assume you're going to be
a candidate, but do you want to be a candidate.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
Look at this stage, I've got a business that I'm
working incredibly hard on building, and that's I'm bringing high
networth individuals into the country, making them feel valued and welcomed.
I'm enjoying that. But but I haven't said that I
will not stand from jilm first. So but but no
(08:58):
final decision has been made and as mentioned, you know,
until the New Zealand First party list comes out, until
the candidates are named, then I don't think anyone can
make any about what things will look like. But but
you know, I will be clear, and I think I
made it reasonably clear yesterday that my values are the
core values of the Labor Party as they were for
(09:20):
the first fifty years. I think the Labor Party these
days has almost become the political wing of the Union
movement as opposed to the party that once stood up
for good, hard work and key reason, no matter what
they were, who they were, what race they were, where
they lived.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So if he does stand for New Zealand First, does
that mean it's sort of a protest against labor, isn't it?
Because it's hard to believe that all the historical philosophies
of the New Zealand First Party light up with his
old school labor ideals. Yeah, things like.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Racism, news talk ze been.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We're going to finish up here with Richard Armitage, you
might know him as a pretty successful at Yeah he's gone, Oh, well,
would you want to be a successful actor of all
your life when you got to be a writer? You know?
You know how?
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Talk to us then about this kind of process you've
been on over the last couple of years, because obviously
storytelling is in your blood. But you have seen a
bit of a professional transition of sorts.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
I have, And it's interesting because I've worked a lot
with Audible. I've been narrating a lot of other author's
incredible work and quite a diverse range of work. And
then Audible ask me if I'd be interested in writing
a crime thriller of my own, and I immediately said yes.
And then they talked about ghost writing, and I absolutely
(10:49):
said no, no, no. If I'm going to write this and
if I'm going to narrate this, these are going to
be my own words. And it's amazing. I hadn't quite
realized how many kind of stories I had plotted somewhere
in my head, and stories that kind of leap out
of things like a conversation in a cemetery. But yeah,
the books are audible audio first, so they're written for audio,
(11:13):
and then the print version is like a bonus extra
that I never expected.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
And so how different is the writing process for a
book that is designed to be listened to rather than
a book that is, you know, initially designed to be
read with eyes.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Well, the way I work on it is to visualize
it as a piece of cinema or television, and then
I write it down in as sort of visceral way
as I can, focusing on dialogue and how it sounds
rather than what it looks like. So, for example, I
don't need to say he said with his Scottish accent,
(11:48):
because the man you're going to hear the Scottish accent,
so it's slightly more pared back, and I'm kind of
leaning into atmosphere and I'm working with audi but at
the moment on book three and we're trying to get
in a bit more soundscape, so it's a sort of
immersive experience at first.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
This is a problem for me because I think I
may have mentioned before when I read, I read aloud
in my head. Everybody has a different voice, and this
is sort of a narrator narrating. As a result, I'm
a very slow reader. But also I'm not very good
(12:23):
at Scottish accents, so I'm not sure that I can
make whatever this one has worked for me anyway. It's
called the cat I am how does that sound in scottiship?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
The co.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
How let's say it? See what I mean? Terrible? Terrible,
I possibly racist. Maybe I should be standing for the
New Zealand first. I am glean Hart. There's been News Talks,
They've been will be back with more, Marasivent.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Used Talking Talking Said Been for more from News Talk Said.
Be listen live on air or online and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcast on
iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Being the
Weekend edition. First with yesterday's news, I'm Glen Heart and
we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday. What a weekend?
Getting old hurts? It's Jack Thames finding out Stuart Nash
is obviously going to be running for New Zealand first
(00:46):
and next year's election. Will he Exley admit it? Richard Armitage,
you'll know hi as an actor. He's also an author.
Before any of that. The All Blacks unfortunately ended my
career as the country's most insightful sports pundit by winning
at Eden Park. Oh, I can't be writing all the time?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
What's the rands out? First of all, in general terms,
when you think back to the performance the All Black
spot on last.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Night, Oh, physical, super physical from the start, and yeah
it didn't really change because there was a gritty performances
to hang in the all the way to the end.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
What were you proudest of as a coaching group.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
I think the leaders just the way they led on
the field, in presher moments. They stood up. They're really
clear around what they wanted to do, and they drove
the week and they drove the efforts out there. To
start with.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
At twenty four seventeen ahead Ardie Savie wants to turnover
penaly Right at the end, you must have thought you
had it won, but somehow South Africa got the ball
back and came again. How are the emotions then right
at the end as they as they had ball in
hand and you had to repel one more attack.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah, I mean believe the more clinical than a couple
of areas there to start with, Bowie. We back our
our defense and the efforts of boys to keep getting
up and keep showing up for their mate. So yeah,
definitely made it a an eighty minute performance for the crowd,
that's for sure.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Indeed.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I mean, I know I was wrong, but when Finlay
Christy like the very first thing that all Blacks did
in that game was a defensive box kick, I couldn't
believe it and I thought, ah, I'm in here, I've
got this absolutely right. Little did I know that the
(02:40):
South Africans We're going to do even more stupid things
than we did.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
News Talk Zen I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Know why I get so upset about these things. I
don't even really like rugby that actually anymore. Francisca, on
the other hand, she just thought the whole thing was
great no matter who won.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
The All Blacks and the Spring Box were playing for
the rugby championship. But it's the general sense of excitement
around the country indicated there is so much more than that.
It's about so much more than that there is I
think that this is probably one of the greatest rivalries
in sport, and we heard all about it, didn't we
last week? Ardie Saviera is one hundredths tests and all
(03:16):
the stats around Eden Park's history, and as much as
John Kerwin was right the team should focus on the
match in front of them and forget the history. There's
no doubt the All Blacks were invigorated by everything that
came with the occasion. And in just a moment we'll
talk to anstorm about the game and the All Blacks performance.
But one of the best things about sport like last
(03:37):
night is it it's a distraction. Twenty twenty five hasn't
quite been the cracker we'd hoped it would be, and
the spring weathers packed up a bit. We needed a
good night of entertainment. There's nothing like a game of
sport to united community or country. It's a good feeling, right.
We all sort of come together behind something. The Tour
de France got me through the short days of winter.
(03:59):
Over the last few weeks, the US Tennis Open has
got me dreaming I can still play tennis. The Warriors, Gosh,
they just keep us guessing week after week, don't they?
And the whole family has an opinion on if one
at the dinner table. I've come to realize I generally
love sport more than who wins or losers. If the
game is good and fair and it gives us a thrill,
(04:20):
then I'm happy with that. It's just a smidgeon better
when it's a Kiwi team who wins.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
What's the game good? I must admit I didn't watch
it live. I was at the theater Saturday night. And
I encourage anybody who's getting a bit sick of watching
those defensive box kicks being gobbled up by the opposition
time and time and time and time and time again,
to yeah, give something like better. Ago don't see noises off,
(04:46):
They've seen the stage there. It's great talk, sib Right,
it sounds like Jack's semi professional sporting career might be over. Uh,
he's got an injury that's just not getting better. Sucks.
He's so old, Jack Dame. Now he's the stuff like
this is happening to him. Can you believe it?
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Quitting football has felt like a threshold. I've never had
an injury that didn't improve in my life. I've never
not been able to play something before. And then last
week I faced a reckoning. I visited a primary school
and the kids encouraged me to sit with them on
the mat and pose for a photo. It was all
(05:27):
like totally innocent enough, and you know how these things go.
You're sort of crossing your legs and sitting on the mat. Well,
it's usually the kind of thing that you give zero
notice to. You don't think about it until one day
you can't do it. Honestly, it was agony. I kind
of folded myself down as best I could, and yet
in the photo I don't even get halfway to the ground.
(05:49):
My butt is on the ground, but my knees are
up at nipple height.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I look like a capital X.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
When I finished at the school, there was a text
waiting on my phone, who's in for football next season?
And most of the guys quickly replied, yep, ken, yep, yep, yep,
I'm in two. When you're young, most of us don't
imagine a point in life living with physical limitations. We
never asked when dad started wincing as he reached for
(06:19):
his shoelaces. We didn't question why grandma shuffles so much.
And then one day it begins. One day it starts.
You have to start saying no.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I mean, I had to look it up because I
often make fun of Jack because of his baby face
that he's, yeah, he's only twelve years old, but he
is actually thirty eight? What what? And oldie no wonder
he's falling the pieces the thirty eight Stuart Nash is
another guy who seems to age in reverse. Boy, he's
(06:54):
looks better and better every time I see him, and
it seems like he's you know, well, he's hanging around
with New Zealand. First, what other reason would there be
to hang around with New Zealand? First?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
How long have you felt drawn to New Zealand?
Speaker 8 (07:09):
First, okay, let me start by saying, I actually didn't
put my hat in the ring on my hand up
Zilm First MP. I had been on the radio commentating
for a little while about about my political allegiances and
where I see things and my politics like quite squarely
the Zilm First at the moment for a whole number
of reasons we can talk about if you'd like. But
(07:30):
yesterday's speech was a was not a play to be
in New Zilm First MP.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It feels like that's where it's going, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Well potentially, but you know, I'm not so arrogant to
think that I can just you know, give a speech
Wilson when there's a whole party process to go through
in terms of determining who will stand where, how things
will get sorted. So you know, there is a process
to go through. Whether I go through that process or
not remains to be seen. But at this stage I
just do want to be clear. No decision has been
made by myself or the party, but I think I
(08:02):
made it very clear that my allegiances at this point,
certainly in terms of sex and the way politics has
played and the policy is out there in the way
that delivery is undertaken. New Zilm First is the party
that that I sort of more cross your lined than
anyone out there at the moment.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, I must say, just about everyone I've spoken to
just assumes that it's a foregone conclusion that you're going
to stick your hat in the ring to be a candidate.
Have you had conversations? I mean, we're talking about selection processes.
I guess that you can't assume you're going to be
a candidate, but do you want to be a candidate.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
Look at this stage, I've got a business that I'm
working incredibly hard on building, and that's I'm bringing high
networth individuals into the country, making them feel valued and welcomed.
I'm enjoying that. But but I haven't said that I
will not stand from jilm first. So but but no
(08:58):
final decision has been made and as mentioned, you know,
until the New Zealand First party list comes out, until
the candidates are named, then I don't think anyone can
make any about what things will look like. But but
you know, I will be clear, and I think I
made it reasonably clear yesterday that my values are the
core values of the Labor Party as they were for
(09:20):
the first fifty years. I think the Labor Party these
days has almost become the political wing of the Union
movement as opposed to the party that once stood up
for good, hard work and key reason, no matter what
they were, who they were, what race they were, where
they lived.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So if he does stand for New Zealand First, does
that mean it's sort of a protest against labor, isn't it?
Because it's hard to believe that all the historical philosophies
of the New Zealand First Party light up with his
old school labor ideals. Yeah, things like.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Racism, news talk ze been.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We're going to finish up here with Richard Armitage, you
might know him as a pretty successful at Yeah he's gone, Oh, well,
would you want to be a successful actor of all
your life when you got to be a writer? You know?
You know how?
Speaker 7 (10:17):
Talk to us then about this kind of process you've
been on over the last couple of years, because obviously
storytelling is in your blood. But you have seen a
bit of a professional transition of sorts.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
I have, And it's interesting because I've worked a lot
with Audible. I've been narrating a lot of other author's
incredible work and quite a diverse range of work. And
then Audible ask me if I'd be interested in writing
a crime thriller of my own, and I immediately said yes.
And then they talked about ghost writing, and I absolutely
(10:49):
said no, no, no. If I'm going to write this and
if I'm going to narrate this, these are going to
be my own words. And it's amazing. I hadn't quite
realized how many kind of stories I had plotted somewhere
in my head, and stories that kind of leap out
of things like a conversation in a cemetery. But yeah,
the books are audible audio first, so they're written for audio,
(11:13):
and then the print version is like a bonus extra
that I never expected.
Speaker 7 (11:17):
And so how different is the writing process for a
book that is designed to be listened to rather than
a book that is, you know, initially designed to be
read with eyes.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Well, the way I work on it is to visualize
it as a piece of cinema or television, and then
I write it down in as sort of visceral way
as I can, focusing on dialogue and how it sounds
rather than what it looks like. So, for example, I
don't need to say he said with his Scottish accent,
(11:48):
because the man you're going to hear the Scottish accent,
so it's slightly more pared back, and I'm kind of
leaning into atmosphere and I'm working with audi but at
the moment on book three and we're trying to get
in a bit more soundscape, so it's a sort of
immersive experience at first.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
This is a problem for me because I think I
may have mentioned before when I read, I read aloud
in my head. Everybody has a different voice, and this
is sort of a narrator narrating. As a result, I'm
a very slow reader. But also I'm not very good
(12:23):
at Scottish accents, so I'm not sure that I can
make whatever this one has worked for me anyway. It's
called the cat I am how does that sound in scottiship?
Speaker 5 (12:33):
The co.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
How let's say it? See what I mean? Terrible? Terrible,
I possibly racist. Maybe I should be standing for the
New Zealand first. I am glean Hart. There's been News Talks,
They've been will be back with more, Marasivent.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Used Talking Talking Said Been for more from News Talk Said.
Be listen live on air or online and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcast on
iHeartRadio
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