September 10, 2025 • 13 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Come on my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
First of Yesterday's news. I am Lean Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday more angst about early school leaders.
In fact, the Tide Sings would have changed. I think
we're into it now. It's with a general feeling that's
coming through this guy Takut Ferris, who had a midnight
(00:52):
splurge on the socials hasn't.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Gone well for him or anybody really.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Laxon's big Pavlov helicopter trip, and Ryan.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is getting old apparently.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But before any of that, something that can make you
feel old is alcohol abuse. And Peter Dunn thinks that
we're not very targeted in the way we're dealing with it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So Peter Dunn argues that we need to do away
with the broad brush approach and focus on the binge drinkers,
the problem drinkers. Targeted policies for that nine to ten
percent of the population who cannot drink sensibly, who do
not drink moderately, and who are causing all of the harm?
(01:37):
Do you need to be told how much you should
drink when you should drink it, like not when you're pregnant?
Do you need to be told that? Do you just
switch off when you see it and think of for
Heaven's sake, who on earth are they talking to? I
know all of this stuff. Do we need to be
(01:59):
focusing on the people who need to hear the message?
All that money going into general education, redirect it of
those groups who need to hear the message most and
putting more of the money into the rehabilitation and the
(02:21):
turning around and the changing of dangerous drinking behaviors. That
is a hell of a lot of money to spend
on disordered drinking, on problem drinking. And it's not you
probably or you, but over there in the corner, it's us,
And we're the ones that need to hear the message,
(02:42):
not them.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
If it's part of being human, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
At like knowing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
All the things that you're not supposed to do and
then deciding to do them anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I think we'll come back to.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That actually with Ryan at the end of the podcast,
because it's certainly something that's forefront of my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
At the moment as well.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's there that are foreshadowing right now as school. It's stupid,
it doesn't work, everybody hates it, and it was just
me anyway. Daniel rang into the Afternoon Show yesterday to
talk about this whole business of kids leaving school as
early as fifteen, even though he was there the whole time.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He doesn't really have a problem with it.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It's not such a bad thing for kids to leave
school at fifteen and sixteen to pursue a career or
you know, and something. Because we don't know that everybody
doesn't want to go to university after high school, you know,
not everybody wants to go to sociary education. And we've
heard this term we are a product of our environment.
(03:50):
And a lot of kids that I've seen at fifteen
have matured enough because of the environment to come from
maybe they had to grow up faster and look after
their siblings or help out them, you know, help about
mom and dad. You know, it's not because maybe maybe
dad's is sick, you know, too sick to work, or
mom is too sick to work. So this kids are
forced to grow up faster and mature faster. So for
(04:13):
having a well life should be full of challenges, it
shouldn't be full of obstacles. And to have this this
seventeen year old you know, legal age to be you
know included as part of the law. I think for
a kid who who thinks that he's mature enough it's
fifteen sixteen to leave school and enter the workforce to
help by the family already there. If he has to
(04:34):
wait to seventeen, he's already losing in life because he
has an obstacle. He tells him, Oh, you can't leave,
you can't help mom and dad. You have to stay
here because the government says you have to stay to
your seventeen And I think it should be an individual cases,
because some kids at fifteen are very mature enough to
look after their younger siblings.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And some kids, anyone, you did.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
You stay at school right till the in right to
the thirteen.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I stayed at school right so you're thirteen because I
enjoyed school. But I had some friends in my class.
He just came to school because they had to come
to school.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, I couldn't agree more. It's always been the problem
with school is that it's not for everyone. And nothing
is for everyone, is it, And that's that's what you're
trying to do. You're trying to fit all kids, which
is everybody when you think about it, into one system,
(05:27):
and it just doesn't it. Some of them aren't going
to fit. Unfortunately, you can't just put them where they
want to be because all the time, because some of them.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Want to be in some bad places. It's tricky.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't have any answers, but all I know as
I hated school talk, right, So Taku de Firis to
Patti Mari. He's raised a few eyebrows with some midnight
ranting on social media.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
He calls David Seymour an idiot. He tells Willie Jackson
he doesn't give a crap about Willy Jackson telling him off,
and then he doubles down on his position that Indians,
Asians and black people shouldn't campaign and Maori electric seats. Now,
you don't need me to tell what a huge problem
this kind of unhinged late night video post is for
Labour's chances of reelection. I mean, just think about how
(06:18):
a hard working, under the pump couple of middle New
Zealand parents are going to react to this. Here they
are going to sleep early and waking up at the
cracker dawn to get the kids to school and then
get off to work for the day, while this clown
is sitting up to midnight making weird film noir videos
and being a racist and probably earning more than they
(06:41):
do from their tax contribution. No one who wants this
economy firing in this country fixed is going to think
that this main man is capable of doing anything serious.
He is a deeply unserious human being. Labor knows what
a big problem this is for them. That's why they've
already called the Maori Party to complain about it. The
Marti Party realizes what a big problem this is for them.
If their mates Labour can't drag them into government because
(07:03):
takutaferis are saying stupid stuff like this. That's why they've
already apologized for this stuff. But Takuta's not sorry, and
as long as he keeps posting this kind of late night,
red eyed nonsense, they will all looked ill, disciplined and unseerious.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Is this I can't decide with This is an argument
for or against a complete ban on social media.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't mean for under sixteens. I mean for everyone.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I mean, you know, obviously it would stop us having
post slightness and being exposed to them. But on the
other hand, maybe we need to know that people are
capable of doing these SIPs of things before we vote
for them.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But before we vote for them again.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So anyway, speaking of wacky stuff that politicians post on
social media, what was the deal with lux and going
up the mountain and the helicopter to argue about pavlova
with Albaniasis. Apparently it costs quite a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Is this a major What about Luxon and this forty
four thousand dollars pavlover?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's caused some.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Ripples today. Heaven alb An Easy, Well, alb and Easy.
I wasn't into it, but he Albanizy came to Queenstown
and they spent forty four thousand dollars flying a pavl
over up the hills for them to eat. And it
wasn't really a photo opportunity because the press wasn't there
with them. Seems to be a slight misjudgment. You don't
(08:36):
be a bit careful with the optics of the photo ops.
It's a pricey pav I always find it a bit
boring at all. Who invented the pair of discussion? I'm
sure there's better things to talk about if you're a
world leader. That's just me though.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Also, I feel like pavlover is complicated enough without adding
a helicopter tripman to it. I mean, it's not the
most complicated dessert of all. I mean that possibly lemon
rune pie. There's many different elements going on a lemon
arn pipe, which might be the reason why it's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But I don't think you need to fly that and
how he got there either? Taking as complicated though, isn't
it news talks? It been right? Let's finish up by
asking Ryan, are you okay?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Few signs that you know you're getting older? I watched
a movie on Sunday with the group of friends. Here
are twelve things I learned. One, I wasn't hungover on
the couch uber eatsing McDonald's from the sofa. That's a
sign that you're getting older. Number two, I took the
extraordinary measure of walking to the movies using perfectly capable legs,
even though they are a bit stiff, bit sore from
(09:42):
the gym. Three, this means you have visited the gym
four times this week to ensure that your ass will
squeeze into that ever shrinking seat that they put you
in at the movies. Four You chat amongst yourselves quite
loudly while the shorts are playing, because well, you just
don't give a flying shit about that level of decorum
any longer, do you. Nobody paid for the shorts. They
(10:04):
paid for the film. The rest is marketing. Five The
short you do watch has Leonardo DiCaprio, heart throb of youth,
playing the cantankerous father figure, and a group of young
actors the children, and you have.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No idea who they are.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Five You feel nostalgia that the movie is set in
the early two thousands. Six you feel the young actors
replicating the style, the close, the heir bit lame, copying
what we clearly did better. Eight One of your friends
has a moon boot on after a fall that he
took while we were out walking over the weekend prior eight.
(10:42):
At nine, you can't count. You love the movie Caught
Stealing with Austin Butler. You should go and see it
if you haven't, not just because it's good and it's
a simple, hearty action thriller, But because it's only an
hour and a half long. Ten that means only one
toilet break, because it's impossible to sit on six hundred
and sixty miles of fizzy water without the feeling that
your bladder might explode into a thousand pieces. Eleven the
(11:07):
time frame is just enough before you need to rearrange
because you've got back pains, always a sign you're getting older.
Twelve are most importantly, you laugh, You're enthralled, you have
a good time.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You feel pretty.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Content sitting there in the dark with your buddies, happy
in the knowledge that any worries you had going in
are a world away from the grungy Lower East Side
of Manhattan where the film is set. It's the little
things you notice that paint a picture of where your
life is at, how old you are, and how you
fit into the world of ever changing demographics. It's a
reminder to enjoy the good moments in life and the
(11:42):
people that make you happy, because one day we'll either
have dementia or be dead. Here's to middle age, halfway
dead and just fine with that.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He's only thirty seven, Ryan's only thirty seven. That's so
much younger than me, and he's worried. Oh my god,
I've had one of those that have come to Jesus
weekends where I've had to go, I can't eat anything anymore.
(12:17):
I'm not just talking about the things that I like eating.
I gave up cheese a long time ago because of
my polesterol, and now basically everything everything that I like,
I've had to give up everything I like. So that's yeah,
that's all gone, obviously, And and part of that is alcohol.
(12:40):
Not because of alcohol, but because it's fattening as well
and bad for your blood pressure and bolesterol and things
as well. And I've had to I used to do
a lot of exercise, and then I sort of went
off it because I became stressed if I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't need this kind of stress, so I just
stopped doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But of course, now it turns out you've got to
keep doing it otherwise for the peace. Anyway, what I'm
saying is I'm allowed to say all these things at
fifty one. I mean, I'm probably well passed halfway through
my life at thirty seven. Come on, right, you've got
a few years left, mate, go on, give it, give
it a nudge for a little while longer.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yet I am greed hats. There has been news doorks.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
They've been as long as I eat the right things,
don't drink the wrong things, and do plenty of exercise.
Between now and tomorrow, I'll see you there.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Used Talking Talks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It'd been for more from news Talk said, be listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Come on my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean
for Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
First of Yesterday's news. I am Lean Hart, and we
are looking back at Wednesday more angst about early school leaders.
In fact, the Tide Sings would have changed. I think
we're into it now. It's with a general feeling that's
coming through this guy Takut Ferris, who had a midnight
(00:52):
splurge on the socials hasn't.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Gone well for him or anybody really.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Laxon's big Pavlov helicopter trip, and Ryan.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Is getting old apparently.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
But before any of that, something that can make you
feel old is alcohol abuse. And Peter Dunn thinks that
we're not very targeted in the way we're dealing with it.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So Peter Dunn argues that we need to do away
with the broad brush approach and focus on the binge drinkers,
the problem drinkers. Targeted policies for that nine to ten
percent of the population who cannot drink sensibly, who do
not drink moderately, and who are causing all of the harm?
(01:37):
Do you need to be told how much you should
drink when you should drink it, like not when you're pregnant?
Do you need to be told that? Do you just
switch off when you see it and think of for
Heaven's sake, who on earth are they talking to? I
know all of this stuff. Do we need to be
(01:59):
focusing on the people who need to hear the message?
All that money going into general education, redirect it of
those groups who need to hear the message most and
putting more of the money into the rehabilitation and the
(02:21):
turning around and the changing of dangerous drinking behaviors. That
is a hell of a lot of money to spend
on disordered drinking, on problem drinking. And it's not you
probably or you, but over there in the corner, it's us,
And we're the ones that need to hear the message,
(02:42):
not them.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
If it's part of being human, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
At like knowing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
All the things that you're not supposed to do and
then deciding to do them anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I think we'll come back to.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That actually with Ryan at the end of the podcast,
because it's certainly something that's forefront of my mind.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
At the moment as well.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
News talk has it been.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
It's there that are foreshadowing right now as school. It's stupid,
it doesn't work, everybody hates it, and it was just
me anyway. Daniel rang into the Afternoon Show yesterday to
talk about this whole business of kids leaving school as
early as fifteen, even though he was there the whole time.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He doesn't really have a problem with it.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
It's not such a bad thing for kids to leave
school at fifteen and sixteen to pursue a career or
you know, and something. Because we don't know that everybody
doesn't want to go to university after high school, you know,
not everybody wants to go to sociary education. And we've
heard this term we are a product of our environment.
(03:50):
And a lot of kids that I've seen at fifteen
have matured enough because of the environment to come from
maybe they had to grow up faster and look after
their siblings or help out them, you know, help about
mom and dad. You know, it's not because maybe maybe
dad's is sick, you know, too sick to work, or
mom is too sick to work. So this kids are
forced to grow up faster and mature faster. So for
(04:13):
having a well life should be full of challenges, it
shouldn't be full of obstacles. And to have this this
seventeen year old you know, legal age to be you
know included as part of the law. I think for
a kid who who thinks that he's mature enough it's
fifteen sixteen to leave school and enter the workforce to
help by the family already there. If he has to
(04:34):
wait to seventeen, he's already losing in life because he
has an obstacle. He tells him, Oh, you can't leave,
you can't help mom and dad. You have to stay
here because the government says you have to stay to
your seventeen And I think it should be an individual cases,
because some kids at fifteen are very mature enough to
look after their younger siblings.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
And some kids, anyone, you did.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
You stay at school right till the in right to
the thirteen.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
I stayed at school right so you're thirteen because I
enjoyed school. But I had some friends in my class.
He just came to school because they had to come
to school.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yes, I couldn't agree more. It's always been the problem
with school is that it's not for everyone. And nothing
is for everyone, is it, And that's that's what you're
trying to do. You're trying to fit all kids, which
is everybody when you think about it, into one system,
(05:27):
and it just doesn't it. Some of them aren't going
to fit. Unfortunately, you can't just put them where they
want to be because all the time, because some of them.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Want to be in some bad places. It's tricky.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I don't have any answers, but all I know as
I hated school talk, right, So Taku de Firis to
Patti Mari. He's raised a few eyebrows with some midnight
ranting on social media.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
He calls David Seymour an idiot. He tells Willie Jackson
he doesn't give a crap about Willy Jackson telling him off,
and then he doubles down on his position that Indians,
Asians and black people shouldn't campaign and Maori electric seats. Now,
you don't need me to tell what a huge problem
this kind of unhinged late night video post is for
Labour's chances of reelection. I mean, just think about how
(06:18):
a hard working, under the pump couple of middle New
Zealand parents are going to react to this. Here they
are going to sleep early and waking up at the
cracker dawn to get the kids to school and then
get off to work for the day, while this clown
is sitting up to midnight making weird film noir videos
and being a racist and probably earning more than they
(06:41):
do from their tax contribution. No one who wants this
economy firing in this country fixed is going to think
that this main man is capable of doing anything serious.
He is a deeply unserious human being. Labor knows what
a big problem this is for them. That's why they've
already called the Maori Party to complain about it. The
Marti Party realizes what a big problem this is for them.
If their mates Labour can't drag them into government because
(07:03):
takutaferis are saying stupid stuff like this. That's why they've
already apologized for this stuff. But Takuta's not sorry, and
as long as he keeps posting this kind of late night,
red eyed nonsense, they will all looked ill, disciplined and unseerious.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Is this I can't decide with This is an argument
for or against a complete ban on social media.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't mean for under sixteens. I mean for everyone.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
I mean, you know, obviously it would stop us having
post slightness and being exposed to them. But on the
other hand, maybe we need to know that people are
capable of doing these SIPs of things before we vote
for them.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
But before we vote for them again.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So anyway, speaking of wacky stuff that politicians post on
social media, what was the deal with lux and going
up the mountain and the helicopter to argue about pavlova
with Albaniasis. Apparently it costs quite a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Is this a major What about Luxon and this forty
four thousand dollars pavlover?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's caused some.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Ripples today. Heaven alb An Easy, Well, alb and Easy.
I wasn't into it, but he Albanizy came to Queenstown
and they spent forty four thousand dollars flying a pavl
over up the hills for them to eat. And it
wasn't really a photo opportunity because the press wasn't there
with them. Seems to be a slight misjudgment. You don't
(08:36):
be a bit careful with the optics of the photo ops.
It's a pricey pav I always find it a bit
boring at all. Who invented the pair of discussion? I'm
sure there's better things to talk about if you're a
world leader. That's just me though.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Also, I feel like pavlover is complicated enough without adding
a helicopter tripman to it. I mean, it's not the
most complicated dessert of all. I mean that possibly lemon
rune pie. There's many different elements going on a lemon
arn pipe, which might be the reason why it's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
But I don't think you need to fly that and
how he got there either? Taking as complicated though, isn't
it news talks? It been right? Let's finish up by
asking Ryan, are you okay?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Few signs that you know you're getting older? I watched
a movie on Sunday with the group of friends. Here
are twelve things I learned. One, I wasn't hungover on
the couch uber eatsing McDonald's from the sofa. That's a
sign that you're getting older. Number two, I took the
extraordinary measure of walking to the movies using perfectly capable legs,
even though they are a bit stiff, bit sore from
(09:42):
the gym. Three, this means you have visited the gym
four times this week to ensure that your ass will
squeeze into that ever shrinking seat that they put you
in at the movies. Four You chat amongst yourselves quite
loudly while the shorts are playing, because well, you just
don't give a flying shit about that level of decorum
any longer, do you. Nobody paid for the shorts. They
(10:04):
paid for the film. The rest is marketing. Five The
short you do watch has Leonardo DiCaprio, heart throb of youth,
playing the cantankerous father figure, and a group of young
actors the children, and you have.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
No idea who they are.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Five You feel nostalgia that the movie is set in
the early two thousands. Six you feel the young actors
replicating the style, the close, the heir bit lame, copying
what we clearly did better. Eight One of your friends
has a moon boot on after a fall that he
took while we were out walking over the weekend prior eight.
(10:42):
At nine, you can't count. You love the movie Caught
Stealing with Austin Butler. You should go and see it
if you haven't, not just because it's good and it's
a simple, hearty action thriller, But because it's only an
hour and a half long. Ten that means only one
toilet break, because it's impossible to sit on six hundred
and sixty miles of fizzy water without the feeling that
your bladder might explode into a thousand pieces. Eleven the
(11:07):
time frame is just enough before you need to rearrange
because you've got back pains, always a sign you're getting older.
Twelve are most importantly, you laugh, You're enthralled, you have
a good time.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
You feel pretty.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Content sitting there in the dark with your buddies, happy
in the knowledge that any worries you had going in
are a world away from the grungy Lower East Side
of Manhattan where the film is set. It's the little
things you notice that paint a picture of where your
life is at, how old you are, and how you
fit into the world of ever changing demographics. It's a
reminder to enjoy the good moments in life and the
(11:42):
people that make you happy, because one day we'll either
have dementia or be dead. Here's to middle age, halfway
dead and just fine with that.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
He's only thirty seven, Ryan's only thirty seven. That's so
much younger than me, and he's worried. Oh my god,
I've had one of those that have come to Jesus
weekends where I've had to go, I can't eat anything anymore.
(12:17):
I'm not just talking about the things that I like eating.
I gave up cheese a long time ago because of
my polesterol, and now basically everything everything that I like,
I've had to give up everything I like. So that's yeah,
that's all gone, obviously, And and part of that is alcohol.
(12:40):
Not because of alcohol, but because it's fattening as well
and bad for your blood pressure and bolesterol and things
as well. And I've had to I used to do
a lot of exercise, and then I sort of went
off it because I became stressed if I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I don't need this kind of stress, so I just
stopped doing it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But of course, now it turns out you've got to
keep doing it otherwise for the peace. Anyway, what I'm
saying is I'm allowed to say all these things at
fifty one. I mean, I'm probably well passed halfway through
my life at thirty seven. Come on, right, you've got
a few years left, mate, go on, give it, give
it a nudge for a little while longer.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yet I am greed hats. There has been news doorks.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
They've been as long as I eat the right things,
don't drink the wrong things, and do plenty of exercise.
Between now and tomorrow, I'll see you there.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Used Talking Talks.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
It'd been for more from news Talk said, be listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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