September 21, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Soz About it, Canterbury/One Sure Way to Fire Up the Media/There Is Definitely No Leadership Issue. At All/Let's Build Some Stuff/Kaylee Can't Sit Still
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glean Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, two
of my favorite weekend days. And we also reflect on
Jimmy Kimmel being stood down for doing his job. As
(00:44):
far as I can tell, polls and questions over national
parties leadership. Is this going to amount to anything? We've
got some hospital funding. It's sort of being announced, I think.
And then Kaylee Bell back in the studio regular guests
(01:05):
because she's a hard worker and she keeps putting out
more music. But before any of that, the m Philly
Shield sexy for you, Kennibry. So I was about it,
Not that I'm but how was your night?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Mate?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
It was a good night. Things funny. We stayed at
the ground for quite a while and then yeah, went
back to the hotel, stuck together. Just yeah say at
the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Real, I bet who looked after the shield last night?
Who was put in charge of it on overnight duty?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
A massive responsibility, so we gave it to We got
it to Charles Elton, who it's one of our sort
of more experienced members of the team. But he's not
actually in that contract good squad, he's in his injured cover.
So very responsible men to have that have those duties.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Excellent stuff. Has anyone in your team ever won? It
was anyone on the team when when you last.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Had it, Well, you've got me there. I'm not too
sure to be fair, I know, Jonah, I think there's
a couple potency who who have had a shield rang
with Ottaga.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You, of course were co coach of Canterbury for a
couple of then involved in the team for a long time.
So was this bitter sweet or was it extra special
for you?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
On reflection that's probably a little bit. It's what sprinkles
on top. I suppose it's when the schedule came out.
It was always a game I was looking forward to.
But yeah, the fact that both teams have been going
well and it was sort of one versus two on
the table and then you had to hit the shield
crown and then to good mesure that became become a
(02:36):
pretty exciting fixture.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So yeah, tager coach Mark Brown. There absolutely fizzing, wasn't
He just couldn't contain himself so exciting, winning the yield
of Canterbury News Talk. Right, So, I think it's safe
(02:59):
to say America has basically become a lot more united
in the wake of the Charlie kirg assassination. Everybody's really
got together and pulled together and oh hang on, now
we're despiring late night talking detainers for speaking their mind.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Great.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's just interesting to compare the ways in which media
companies have dealt with pressure from the White House and
the ways in which other countries have dealt with pressure
from the US when it comes to trade tariffs, because
if you think about it, it's actually pretty similar. So
instead of organizing a big collective response grouping together with
(03:41):
collective resistance to the pressure, the big acronyms in US media,
the likes of CBS and ABC are acting in what
they think is their own self interest in the short term, right,
So they cut a deal and they try to move on.
And whether they're international leaders or media executives, everyone is
stooping to kiss the ring. But I just don't think
(04:03):
there's any evidence it works. I mean, think about it.
If you give a bully your lunch money, does the
bully then leave you alone in the future, or does
he come back for more? See, they think it's in
their self interest to acquiesce. But one capitulation inevitably leads
to another, and then another and then another. It's snowballs, right,
(04:26):
and before you know it, the president of the United
States is deciding which comedians are allowed on TV. He
now says that some networks that are critical of him
should have their licenses taken away, And like everything, it's
hard to know if he's being hundred percent serious about it, right,
It's hard to know if it's a one hundred percent
serious idea. But the mere suggestion is so profoundly undemocratic,
(04:51):
It is so profoundly un American.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's the trouble with a lot of Trump's ideas, So like,
they start off not sounding very serious, and then he
does them, so you kind of have to take them seriously.
But Y Jackson, the media, I'm sort.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Of in the media.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I suppose obviously we're absolute when other people in the
media get suspended because I guess we're just worried it's
going to happen to us. I mean, I'd have to
have some kind of an audience for it to happen
to me. I think, I mean, thank you for being
(05:33):
there for me, but please don't complain about what I'm
saying to my management. That's all I'm saying, right, So yeah,
give me come. I mean, he wasn't fine, he suspended,
so tough times for him, tough times for the leadership
(05:54):
of the National Party at the moment that I mean,
they're just going about their business, trying to do what
they said they were going to do, and everybody hates
them for it.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
A poll out this week showed more voters held the
current government responsible for economic issues rather than the previous
labor led government. I think Luxon and Willis need a
new way to tell us that good things take time
and it is a hard message to sell because it's
a hard pill to take. But the current messaging approach
isn't working. With more stories about factories closing down, you know,
(06:26):
those stories hitting the headlines, the Finance Minister can't afford
to wait for what is hopefully an improved GDP result
from the September quarter, not that the opposition and making
the most of the opportunities they're being handed on a platter.
Labor leader Chris Hipkins also put a smile on my
face this week when he claimed the whole government needs
to go. Nikola Wallis, Chris Phluxen, Chris Busship, they are
(06:47):
all in this together. I think the whole government should resign.
Hickins made a hash of an easy hit by peering
out of his mind, can we please ditch the National Party?
Resignation movement seems to be increasingly vocal in the vague
hope that if they say it often enough, the prophecy
will come true. At this stage, resignation calls aren't justified helpful.
(07:09):
The good ideas and strong policy is luxon and Willis
need a new story. It is too risky to leave
it up to the final kick at election time next year.
Not everyone can pull off what Jordie Beamish did.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I I'm actually gonna sort of back National because I
kind of have to, because I've often been critical of,
you know, John Key and the rockstar economy. I think
John Key took a lot of credit for something that
was just like a global shift in economic times, you know,
like he just having to be Prime Minister at the
(07:41):
right time. I don't know how much he I think
people credit him for good times and then exactly the
same logic because I've seen that before, so following that logic,
I mean, not great times. But yeah, it's hard to
know how much control the old New Zealand governments had
(08:03):
has you know, when what do they call them? Global
headwinds are blowing us hither and for the oh, where
have these green shoots gone? There were green everybody was
talking about green shoots and then we get a bad
GDP and suddenly what have they all just withered and disappeared?
Did somebody accidentally use the weed sprays of the fertilizer? Okay,
(08:25):
I'm not sure if Simon Brown will buy for leadership
of the National Party if it ever comes to that.
But at the moment he's handing out the lollies to
the health system. I don't think you're supposed to give
lollies to people in the house system, but you know
what I mean.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Hey, just to start off on a mildly cynical note,
the government has had moments for being accused of announcements
of announcements? Is this all new work?
Speaker 8 (08:50):
These are new projects? That is correct? That money was
allocated in the budget and what Health New Zealand's done
has gone through a process to identify the twenty one
different projects that that funding will go towards, and today
we're announcing what those twenty one projects are. So, for example,
County's manic there's an expansion to the oncology service there
(09:11):
to be able to deliver more cancer medicines. There's turn
of fifty extra car parks at green Lane Clinical Center
so that more people can access the services that are
provided there. There's upgrades and fung Ray, Wanganui and Ashburton
Queenstown expansion to the ED. So today's about announcing what
those twenty one individual projects are and Healthy sALS now
(09:33):
are going to get cracking on with it to make
the impact that those are required for our patients and
for the hard working staff in our hospitals.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Hey, what's your inviolvement with the decision making process. You're
saying that it's identified by Health in New Zealand. What
role does the minister play when it comes to just
not apart from announcing the money, Well.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
I guess we went through the budget process, the money
was allocated Health New Zealand then went it worked through
with its districts to look at what were their priorities.
Those priorities were then fed up to me as the minister,
and then we signed that off.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And then basically that signature goes on to one of
those giant checks and then everybody gets their photo taken
holding the giant check. I think that's how it works,
So that's good. Hopefully those car parts will make a
mess of difference and everybody will fee your.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Heads heaps better news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Kayleie Bell?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
She is well a country star really and a mother.
Let's hear how hard it is to be those two things.
She joined Jack Sentitamy.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
How boy AUP is out this week? How excited are you?
How the vibes at the moment?
Speaker 9 (10:49):
Yeah, I mean just to have a new album is like,
it's one of the most exciting things as an artist
because it means more touring, It means you know, new songs.
New songs are always great to play and to have
fans discover, and yeah, I just feel like we're building
a really cool catalog now of music that we get to,
like I said, get out on the road and play live.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
And well there's that other thing too, It's that you've
been working on it for ages, and then it's like
you've got a hold a back, holder back, holder, back,
holder back, and then finally the flag dates are released.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
I think that's the weird thing is that like none
of this is like new to me, because it's like
you said, like you start working on this stuff like
a year ago. This record was particularly.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Fun to make.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
I was about thirty four weeks pregnant when my producer
flew out from Nashville and it actually, yeah, he came
to New Zealand, which was amazing to bring a bit
of Nashville to New Zealand to make the record, and
we just kind of set up at the studio at home,
and I just loved the way we worked. It was
way more collaborative, you know, sort of get up, go
for coffee, come home, spend the day in the studio
(11:52):
at home, and it was really it triggered something in
me that I was like, this is how I want
to make my records now, as opposed to previously, you know,
going to Nashville and it being very hictic and you're
kind of slotting in with people sort of schedules, whereas
this way it felt like my producer Tom also just
loved being in New Zealand, you know, around nature. Just
(12:13):
it just felt like such a wholesome way to make
a record.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
So do you think the pregnancy was a component in that.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
I think so. I was definitely kind of just working
right up till I couldn't work.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
But it was.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Twenty four weeks is like, yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
It was like we just got off the Cane Brown
tour around Australia and I was kind of getting to
that point where it was like, I think enough's enough now,
Like I think I need to sit still.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
She that had us walking, working woman and New Zealand music.
I feel like she's always got something on the boy
l good honor. I am being hat now that I've
done this and I don't really have anything to do.
We'll just take it easy for a bit. I mean,
(12:56):
I've got a I've got a nationally successful well culminating
actually rips radio shows to put together. But other than
I haven't got much jobs Anyone'll just take it easy
and then I'll be back with you with a rewrap
after that show. I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
News Talking Talkings it BEM. For more from News Talk
st B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk said B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the Bean the
Weekend edition, first of yesterday's news. I am Glean Hart,
and we are looking back at Sunday and Saturday, two
of my favorite weekend days. And we also reflect on
Jimmy Kimmel being stood down for doing his job. As
(00:44):
far as I can tell, polls and questions over national
parties leadership. Is this going to amount to anything? We've
got some hospital funding. It's sort of being announced, I think.
And then Kaylee Bell back in the studio regular guests
(01:05):
because she's a hard worker and she keeps putting out
more music. But before any of that, the m Philly
Shield sexy for you, Kennibry. So I was about it,
Not that I'm but how was your night?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Mate?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
It was a good night. Things funny. We stayed at
the ground for quite a while and then yeah, went
back to the hotel, stuck together. Just yeah say at
the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Real, I bet who looked after the shield last night?
Who was put in charge of it on overnight duty?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
A massive responsibility, so we gave it to We got
it to Charles Elton, who it's one of our sort
of more experienced members of the team. But he's not
actually in that contract good squad, he's in his injured cover.
So very responsible men to have that have those duties.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Excellent stuff. Has anyone in your team ever won? It
was anyone on the team when when you last.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Had it, Well, you've got me there. I'm not too
sure to be fair, I know, Jonah, I think there's
a couple potency who who have had a shield rang
with Ottaga.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
You, of course were co coach of Canterbury for a
couple of then involved in the team for a long time.
So was this bitter sweet or was it extra special
for you?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
On reflection that's probably a little bit. It's what sprinkles
on top. I suppose it's when the schedule came out.
It was always a game I was looking forward to.
But yeah, the fact that both teams have been going
well and it was sort of one versus two on
the table and then you had to hit the shield
crown and then to good mesure that became become a
(02:36):
pretty exciting fixture.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So yeah, tager coach Mark Brown. There absolutely fizzing, wasn't
He just couldn't contain himself so exciting, winning the yield
of Canterbury News Talk. Right, So, I think it's safe
(02:59):
to say America has basically become a lot more united
in the wake of the Charlie kirg assassination. Everybody's really
got together and pulled together and oh hang on, now
we're despiring late night talking detainers for speaking their mind.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Great.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
It's just interesting to compare the ways in which media
companies have dealt with pressure from the White House and
the ways in which other countries have dealt with pressure
from the US when it comes to trade tariffs, because
if you think about it, it's actually pretty similar. So
instead of organizing a big collective response grouping together with
(03:41):
collective resistance to the pressure, the big acronyms in US media,
the likes of CBS and ABC are acting in what
they think is their own self interest in the short term, right,
So they cut a deal and they try to move on.
And whether they're international leaders or media executives, everyone is
stooping to kiss the ring. But I just don't think
(04:03):
there's any evidence it works. I mean, think about it.
If you give a bully your lunch money, does the
bully then leave you alone in the future, or does
he come back for more? See, they think it's in
their self interest to acquiesce. But one capitulation inevitably leads
to another, and then another and then another. It's snowballs, right,
(04:26):
and before you know it, the president of the United
States is deciding which comedians are allowed on TV. He
now says that some networks that are critical of him
should have their licenses taken away, And like everything, it's
hard to know if he's being hundred percent serious about it, right,
It's hard to know if it's a one hundred percent
serious idea. But the mere suggestion is so profoundly undemocratic,
(04:51):
It is so profoundly un American.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It's the trouble with a lot of Trump's ideas, So like,
they start off not sounding very serious, and then he
does them, so you kind of have to take them seriously.
But Y Jackson, the media, I'm sort.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Of in the media.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I suppose obviously we're absolute when other people in the
media get suspended because I guess we're just worried it's
going to happen to us. I mean, I'd have to
have some kind of an audience for it to happen
to me. I think, I mean, thank you for being
(05:33):
there for me, but please don't complain about what I'm
saying to my management. That's all I'm saying, right, So yeah,
give me come. I mean, he wasn't fine, he suspended,
so tough times for him, tough times for the leadership
(05:54):
of the National Party at the moment that I mean,
they're just going about their business, trying to do what
they said they were going to do, and everybody hates
them for it.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
A poll out this week showed more voters held the
current government responsible for economic issues rather than the previous
labor led government. I think Luxon and Willis need a
new way to tell us that good things take time
and it is a hard message to sell because it's
a hard pill to take. But the current messaging approach
isn't working. With more stories about factories closing down, you know,
(06:26):
those stories hitting the headlines, the Finance Minister can't afford
to wait for what is hopefully an improved GDP result
from the September quarter, not that the opposition and making
the most of the opportunities they're being handed on a platter.
Labor leader Chris Hipkins also put a smile on my
face this week when he claimed the whole government needs
to go. Nikola Wallis, Chris Phluxen, Chris Busship, they are
(06:47):
all in this together. I think the whole government should resign.
Hickins made a hash of an easy hit by peering
out of his mind, can we please ditch the National Party?
Resignation movement seems to be increasingly vocal in the vague
hope that if they say it often enough, the prophecy
will come true. At this stage, resignation calls aren't justified helpful.
(07:09):
The good ideas and strong policy is luxon and Willis
need a new story. It is too risky to leave
it up to the final kick at election time next year.
Not everyone can pull off what Jordie Beamish did.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I I'm actually gonna sort of back National because I
kind of have to, because I've often been critical of,
you know, John Key and the rockstar economy. I think
John Key took a lot of credit for something that
was just like a global shift in economic times, you know,
like he just having to be Prime Minister at the
(07:41):
right time. I don't know how much he I think
people credit him for good times and then exactly the
same logic because I've seen that before, so following that logic,
I mean, not great times. But yeah, it's hard to
know how much control the old New Zealand governments had
(08:03):
has you know, when what do they call them? Global
headwinds are blowing us hither and for the oh, where
have these green shoots gone? There were green everybody was
talking about green shoots and then we get a bad
GDP and suddenly what have they all just withered and disappeared?
Did somebody accidentally use the weed sprays of the fertilizer? Okay,
(08:25):
I'm not sure if Simon Brown will buy for leadership
of the National Party if it ever comes to that.
But at the moment he's handing out the lollies to
the health system. I don't think you're supposed to give
lollies to people in the house system, but you know
what I mean.
Speaker 7 (08:40):
Hey, just to start off on a mildly cynical note,
the government has had moments for being accused of announcements
of announcements? Is this all new work?
Speaker 8 (08:50):
These are new projects? That is correct? That money was
allocated in the budget and what Health New Zealand's done
has gone through a process to identify the twenty one
different projects that that funding will go towards, and today
we're announcing what those twenty one projects are. So, for example,
County's manic there's an expansion to the oncology service there
(09:11):
to be able to deliver more cancer medicines. There's turn
of fifty extra car parks at green Lane Clinical Center
so that more people can access the services that are
provided there. There's upgrades and fung Ray, Wanganui and Ashburton
Queenstown expansion to the ED. So today's about announcing what
those twenty one individual projects are and Healthy sALS now
(09:33):
are going to get cracking on with it to make
the impact that those are required for our patients and
for the hard working staff in our hospitals.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Hey, what's your inviolvement with the decision making process. You're
saying that it's identified by Health in New Zealand. What
role does the minister play when it comes to just
not apart from announcing the money, Well.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
I guess we went through the budget process, the money
was allocated Health New Zealand then went it worked through
with its districts to look at what were their priorities.
Those priorities were then fed up to me as the minister,
and then we signed that off.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And then basically that signature goes on to one of
those giant checks and then everybody gets their photo taken
holding the giant check. I think that's how it works,
So that's good. Hopefully those car parts will make a
mess of difference and everybody will fee your.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Heads heaps better news talk. Has it been right?
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Kayleie Bell?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
She is well a country star really and a mother.
Let's hear how hard it is to be those two things.
She joined Jack Sentitamy.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
How boy AUP is out this week? How excited are you?
How the vibes at the moment?
Speaker 9 (10:49):
Yeah, I mean just to have a new album is like,
it's one of the most exciting things as an artist
because it means more touring, It means you know, new songs.
New songs are always great to play and to have
fans discover, and yeah, I just feel like we're building
a really cool catalog now of music that we get to,
like I said, get out on the road and play live.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
And well there's that other thing too, It's that you've
been working on it for ages, and then it's like
you've got a hold a back, holder back, holder, back,
holder back, and then finally the flag dates are released.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
You know.
Speaker 9 (11:18):
I think that's the weird thing is that like none
of this is like new to me, because it's like
you said, like you start working on this stuff like
a year ago. This record was particularly.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Fun to make.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
I was about thirty four weeks pregnant when my producer
flew out from Nashville and it actually, yeah, he came
to New Zealand, which was amazing to bring a bit
of Nashville to New Zealand to make the record, and
we just kind of set up at the studio at home,
and I just loved the way we worked. It was
way more collaborative, you know, sort of get up, go
for coffee, come home, spend the day in the studio
(11:52):
at home, and it was really it triggered something in
me that I was like, this is how I want
to make my records now, as opposed to previously, you know,
going to Nashville and it being very hictic and you're
kind of slotting in with people sort of schedules, whereas
this way it felt like my producer Tom also just
loved being in New Zealand, you know, around nature. Just
(12:13):
it just felt like such a wholesome way to make
a record.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
So do you think the pregnancy was a component in that.
Speaker 9 (12:18):
I think so. I was definitely kind of just working
right up till I couldn't work.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
But it was.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
Twenty four weeks is like, yeah.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
It was like we just got off the Cane Brown
tour around Australia and I was kind of getting to
that point where it was like, I think enough's enough now,
Like I think I need to sit still.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
She that had us walking, working woman and New Zealand music.
I feel like she's always got something on the boy
l good honor. I am being hat now that I've
done this and I don't really have anything to do.
We'll just take it easy for a bit. I mean,
(12:56):
I've got a I've got a nationally successful well culminating
actually rips radio shows to put together. But other than
I haven't got much jobs Anyone'll just take it easy
and then I'll be back with you with a rewrap
after that show. I'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
News Talking Talkings it BEM. For more from News Talk
st B, listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
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