September 29, 2025 • 12 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Harton and we
are looking back on Monday. Russia is really pushing things
with this whole flying their planes over countries.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Where they're not supposed to be flying.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Naughty norty Russia. Marcus has got some gutter talk, which
isn't what I thought.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It was at the end of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But first up of this whole recognizing Palestine not recognizing
Palestine thing, it's become one of those things that the
more you say it, the more ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It sounds.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Seems extraordinary that the best chance of attaining peace in
that desperate strip of land has the same population of
New Zealand living in a total land area of six
thousand square kilometers. We are two hundred and sixty eight
thousand square kilometers, to give you some kind of context,
five million of them jammed into six thousand square kilometers.
We've got two hundred and sixty eight thousand square kilometers.
(01:31):
But it seems extraordinary that the best chance of attaining
piece now rests on the shoulders of Donald Trump. The
Trump administration has proposed a twenty one point Garza Pieace
plan that calls for all hostages held by h must
to be released within forty eight hours of an agreement
and sets out a roadmap for Gaza once the war ends,
(01:53):
looking at a two state solution. US President Donald Trump
has voiced optimism about resolving the conflict, saying on Friday
they are very close to the deal, speaking out at
the Ryder Cup as well, saying that he hoped for
a solution and you can only hope and pray that
in this Donald Trump is right.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, that's got to be pretty devastating having your fate
resting in the hands of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Twenty one points is too many points, isn't it? For
a plan?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Nobody's going to remember what they all are, certainly not Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
He couldn't even.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Remember the name of the drug that they were telling
people not to take.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
The other day news talk has it been? But anyway,
where were we?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Because I'm still waiting to hear from Trump and who
is I record this? See if they've been at have
time to go through all those twenty one points.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yet, can I just come to the defense of Winston
Peters for a minute. Winston has been labeled a coward
for the position that he took on Palestine on Saturday,
which I do not think is fair because it appears
to me that what he's done is actually the opposite
of cowardice. The easy would have actually been for him
to just go with the crowd, just say yep, we
recognize a Palestinian state, because that's what everybody else is doing.
(03:16):
The hard thing for him to do is go against
the crowd, go against what everybody the UN is doing,
go against the domestic media opinion, go against the commentator's consensus.
So actually, when you think about it, he's not being
cowardly at all. And actually I agree with his analysis
at the moment. Set aside whether there should be a
Palestinian state, because of course there should be a Palestinian state,
and I think most of us think that right if
(03:36):
it's possible, it should happen.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
That's not what this is about. It is about whether
you do that right now, because doing it right now
is rewarding Hamas, and they themselves have made it clear
that they see the recognition of a state of Palestinian
of Palestine as a vindication of the massacre that they
carried out on October seven. You cannot reward terrorists for
taking innocent lives. But also, and probably more importantly, it's
(04:00):
not going to do anything to end the war. If
you really want to end the war, if Trump's current
peace plan fails, then what we need to do is
punish israelph what they're doing. They should be sanctioned, and
they should be isolated from the international community until they stop.
And we've been saying this for weeks on the show.
For every day that we talk about whether we recognize
a Palestinian state, we are wasting a day that we
(04:20):
could be talking about what we actually should be doing,
the things that would actually end this war, like punishing
Israel for what they're doing, which again is another day
that we've wasted talking about the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I guess it's the trouble when you've got so many
people involved whose job it is actually to talk about things.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I think they sometimes.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Fall into the trap that just by talking about things,
something's going to happen. You know, the twenty one point plan,
how much of that, how many of those twenty one
points are actually actions and not just suggestions. I don't know,
I haven't been through it, like I've got a kind
of look at twenty one points you've talk side anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'm sure Die has had a good look for it all, and.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
She knows whether or not she would recognize Palestine if
you saw it in the street.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
The government's currently calling for a lot of moneyed investors
to invest in New Zealand and bring business here. Correct, right,
So when we look at the Peter tel situation, a
lot of people don't realize that Peter Tel is Planetar.
(05:34):
You know what planetar is. No, Planetar is the AI.
It's the technology technology that's being used by the Israel
government to attack and bomb the Palestinians.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
But Peter Taylor isn't Peter Tailor isn't in New Zealand anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
He really was.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
He he's still got his citizenship. And if you look
up and see read up Citizen Teal, it actually tells
you he was involved in the Trump election, he answered
j D. Vance. He's politically minded, he's behind Israel. You
know when you look and see that these guys, the
(06:17):
technology guys are seriously investing in New Zealand and we're
calling look at Judith Collins calling for So.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
You think that this not this this speech at the
UN helps or hinders investment into New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
It hinders. But also if we wanted to be serious
about doing the right thing, and that's.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
Peter Tail's a billionia that was looking to invest in
New Zealand, and I'm not I'm not sure. I'll just
take you at your word that he is involved in
some way in the situation, then surely it wouldn't affect
his you know, his his willingness to invest in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We often talk end up talking about Peter Tail, don't
we when it comes to investment in New Zealand. We
sort of got a teal based economy.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Now, see what's happening.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
As successful as fon terror is, for example, are they
as successful as Peter Teel? I don't think they are,
are they right? So anyway, I think we're basically on
the verge of sorting out that Middle East business, which
is good. Like I say, just just waiting to hear
from Trump and now they would just be going through
that list of twenty one things and picking them all off. Sure,
(07:38):
who's got the list for Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 9 (07:41):
Hutin's playing a game of chicken with the Europeans, and
so far the Europeans are the chickens. They NATO has
pretty much done nothing but talk about these fighter jets
and drones intercepted a couple. Take your pick of experts
and former military bosses chiming in on the why over
the weekend, and you'll get as many different answers. Are
these incursions a mistake, No, there's too many of them now.
(08:02):
It's orchestrated clearly. So he's doing this for one of
two reasons, to keep more territory in Ukraine and freak
the Europeans a bit. They might buckle and give them
more of what he wants. Or he's picking off countries
one by one to test the NATO response, lining up
his next target. Does NATO respond differently to a Polish
incursion than a Danish one? The point of NATO is
that it shouldn't matter. It should be all for one,
(08:24):
one for all. The question then becomes, how do you
deal with that? And you've got to listen to a
guy called Maritz Break. He's with the Center for Advanced Security,
Strategic and integration studies. He says, you've got to be
more forceful with the Russians the Turks. They shot down
a Russian jet back in twenty fifteen. You might remember
that seconds after it entered their airspace. And guess what.
Putin didn't go to war with Turkey, did he? The
(08:48):
fighter pilots from Russia learned pretty quickly just whose airspace
belongs to who?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It is?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
A bit strange, isn't it, especially since some of the
aircraft and questions are just drones as well. Come on, NATO,
put your money where your mouth is. I feel like
Mark Ruter, the Extra General of NATO, he's just edging
to shoot at some people. He's always got this tough
talk and wants more weapons and all the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Do something with them. Come on, dude, news talk? Has
it been Franky Glean?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Didn't realize you were such a warmonger.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, sorry about that. I don't know where that came from.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We're going to finish up here with this gutter talk,
and I don't actually think it's gutters that we're talking about.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
Is it after you're clean your gutters?
Speaker 9 (09:34):
People?
Speaker 10 (09:35):
What are you doing with your gutters?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What's your have?
Speaker 10 (09:36):
You got a have you got a gutter routine, because
the thing if you become a gutter watcher, I go,
I'm always looking at people's guttering. Boy, oh boy, a
lot of people are grass going and a lot of
people's guttering looks poorly maintained. It's not that easy to
fix either, because sometimes you go up there with the
ladder and the ladder. What you're doing with the ladders,
(09:58):
your ladder's going on to the guttering, You damage the guttering.
It's not a very straightforward thing. So yeah, I wouldn't
mind knowing your gut rituals, what you do, because particularly
where I live, which is coastal, what will happen quite
often is sand will get in your guttering, and then
seeds get in your guttering, and grass will grow in
(10:20):
your guttering. And you've got to go up there fairly regularly,
i'd say annually. You've got to remove these things that
are like three feet long, kind of rooty things that
live in your guttering. They're quite satisfying to pull out,
and then you pull them on, you drop them look
(10:40):
terrible on your paper, but that's what it is. That's
what you've got to do because otherwise the guttering just pulls.
The water just pulls, it goes over the edge. And
I've spoken to builders and they say, what happens. The
guttering goes and the water comes down, and then your
foundations go. So if anything, and I believe strong in this.
As far as guttering, the most important maintenance you can
(11:01):
do in your house is keeping the guttering clean because
when that goes, it starts eroding the piles, and then
you're in a world to hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yes, you don't want your spouting overflowing, because they'll run
down the inside of your walls, not just the outside.
But the really disturbing thing there is that Marcus called
some gutters and it's spouting he's talking about, isn't it spouting?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Gutters?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Are things on the street, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Have? We got to burn.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Verge situation, a batch slashing, bribe situation.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Some people call it one thing, some people pull it another.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's spouting, it's not guttering, surely anyway. I definitely don't
need things once things are growing out of it that
you've let it too late. He's right, get onto it.
Whatever it is, gathering or spouting, I am that's enough.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
That's enough. Gutter talk. I'll see you back here again.
We'll try and clean up around for tomorrow. Us talking
it be.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
For more from newstalkset B listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Harton and we
are looking back on Monday. Russia is really pushing things
with this whole flying their planes over countries.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Where they're not supposed to be flying.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Naughty norty Russia. Marcus has got some gutter talk, which
isn't what I thought.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It was at the end of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But first up of this whole recognizing Palestine not recognizing
Palestine thing, it's become one of those things that the
more you say it, the more ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It sounds.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Seems extraordinary that the best chance of attaining peace in
that desperate strip of land has the same population of
New Zealand living in a total land area of six
thousand square kilometers. We are two hundred and sixty eight
thousand square kilometers, to give you some kind of context,
five million of them jammed into six thousand square kilometers.
We've got two hundred and sixty eight thousand square kilometers.
(01:31):
But it seems extraordinary that the best chance of attaining
piece now rests on the shoulders of Donald Trump. The
Trump administration has proposed a twenty one point Garza Pieace
plan that calls for all hostages held by h must
to be released within forty eight hours of an agreement
and sets out a roadmap for Gaza once the war ends,
(01:53):
looking at a two state solution. US President Donald Trump
has voiced optimism about resolving the conflict, saying on Friday
they are very close to the deal, speaking out at
the Ryder Cup as well, saying that he hoped for
a solution and you can only hope and pray that
in this Donald Trump is right.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, that's got to be pretty devastating having your fate
resting in the hands of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Twenty one points is too many points, isn't it? For
a plan?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Nobody's going to remember what they all are, certainly not Trump.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
He couldn't even.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Remember the name of the drug that they were telling
people not to take.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
The other day news talk has it been? But anyway,
where were we?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Because I'm still waiting to hear from Trump and who
is I record this? See if they've been at have
time to go through all those twenty one points.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yet, can I just come to the defense of Winston
Peters for a minute. Winston has been labeled a coward
for the position that he took on Palestine on Saturday,
which I do not think is fair because it appears
to me that what he's done is actually the opposite
of cowardice. The easy would have actually been for him
to just go with the crowd, just say yep, we
recognize a Palestinian state, because that's what everybody else is doing.
(03:16):
The hard thing for him to do is go against
the crowd, go against what everybody the UN is doing,
go against the domestic media opinion, go against the commentator's consensus.
So actually, when you think about it, he's not being
cowardly at all. And actually I agree with his analysis
at the moment. Set aside whether there should be a
Palestinian state, because of course there should be a Palestinian state,
and I think most of us think that right if
(03:36):
it's possible, it should happen.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
That's not what this is about. It is about whether
you do that right now, because doing it right now
is rewarding Hamas, and they themselves have made it clear
that they see the recognition of a state of Palestinian
of Palestine as a vindication of the massacre that they
carried out on October seven. You cannot reward terrorists for
taking innocent lives. But also, and probably more importantly, it's
(04:00):
not going to do anything to end the war. If
you really want to end the war, if Trump's current
peace plan fails, then what we need to do is
punish israelph what they're doing. They should be sanctioned, and
they should be isolated from the international community until they stop.
And we've been saying this for weeks on the show.
For every day that we talk about whether we recognize
a Palestinian state, we are wasting a day that we
(04:20):
could be talking about what we actually should be doing,
the things that would actually end this war, like punishing
Israel for what they're doing, which again is another day
that we've wasted talking about the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I guess it's the trouble when you've got so many
people involved whose job it is actually to talk about things.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I think they sometimes.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Fall into the trap that just by talking about things,
something's going to happen. You know, the twenty one point plan,
how much of that, how many of those twenty one
points are actually actions and not just suggestions. I don't know,
I haven't been through it, like I've got a kind
of look at twenty one points you've talk side anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'm sure Die has had a good look for it all, and.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
She knows whether or not she would recognize Palestine if
you saw it in the street.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
The government's currently calling for a lot of moneyed investors
to invest in New Zealand and bring business here. Correct, right,
So when we look at the Peter tel situation, a
lot of people don't realize that Peter Tel is Planetar.
(05:34):
You know what planetar is. No, Planetar is the AI.
It's the technology technology that's being used by the Israel
government to attack and bomb the Palestinians.
Speaker 8 (05:51):
But Peter Taylor isn't Peter Tailor isn't in New Zealand anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
He really was.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
He he's still got his citizenship. And if you look
up and see read up Citizen Teal, it actually tells
you he was involved in the Trump election, he answered
j D. Vance. He's politically minded, he's behind Israel. You
know when you look and see that these guys, the
(06:17):
technology guys are seriously investing in New Zealand and we're
calling look at Judith Collins calling for So.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
You think that this not this this speech at the
UN helps or hinders investment into New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
It hinders. But also if we wanted to be serious
about doing the right thing, and that's.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
Peter Tail's a billionia that was looking to invest in
New Zealand, and I'm not I'm not sure. I'll just
take you at your word that he is involved in
some way in the situation, then surely it wouldn't affect
his you know, his his willingness to invest in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
We often talk end up talking about Peter Tail, don't
we when it comes to investment in New Zealand. We
sort of got a teal based economy.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Now, see what's happening.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
As successful as fon terror is, for example, are they
as successful as Peter Teel? I don't think they are,
are they right? So anyway, I think we're basically on
the verge of sorting out that Middle East business, which
is good. Like I say, just just waiting to hear
from Trump and now they would just be going through
that list of twenty one things and picking them all off. Sure,
(07:38):
who's got the list for Russia and Ukraine.
Speaker 9 (07:41):
Hutin's playing a game of chicken with the Europeans, and
so far the Europeans are the chickens. They NATO has
pretty much done nothing but talk about these fighter jets
and drones intercepted a couple. Take your pick of experts
and former military bosses chiming in on the why over
the weekend, and you'll get as many different answers. Are
these incursions a mistake, No, there's too many of them now.
(08:02):
It's orchestrated clearly. So he's doing this for one of
two reasons, to keep more territory in Ukraine and freak
the Europeans a bit. They might buckle and give them
more of what he wants. Or he's picking off countries
one by one to test the NATO response, lining up
his next target. Does NATO respond differently to a Polish
incursion than a Danish one? The point of NATO is
that it shouldn't matter. It should be all for one,
(08:24):
one for all. The question then becomes, how do you
deal with that? And you've got to listen to a
guy called Maritz Break. He's with the Center for Advanced Security,
Strategic and integration studies. He says, you've got to be
more forceful with the Russians the Turks. They shot down
a Russian jet back in twenty fifteen. You might remember
that seconds after it entered their airspace. And guess what.
Putin didn't go to war with Turkey, did he? The
(08:48):
fighter pilots from Russia learned pretty quickly just whose airspace
belongs to who?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
It is?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
A bit strange, isn't it, especially since some of the
aircraft and questions are just drones as well. Come on, NATO,
put your money where your mouth is. I feel like
Mark Ruter, the Extra General of NATO, he's just edging
to shoot at some people. He's always got this tough
talk and wants more weapons and all the rest of it.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Do something with them. Come on, dude, news talk? Has
it been Franky Glean?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Didn't realize you were such a warmonger.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, sorry about that. I don't know where that came from.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We're going to finish up here with this gutter talk,
and I don't actually think it's gutters that we're talking about.
Speaker 10 (09:33):
Is it after you're clean your gutters?
Speaker 9 (09:34):
People?
Speaker 10 (09:35):
What are you doing with your gutters?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What's your have?
Speaker 10 (09:36):
You got a have you got a gutter routine, because
the thing if you become a gutter watcher, I go,
I'm always looking at people's guttering. Boy, oh boy, a
lot of people are grass going and a lot of
people's guttering looks poorly maintained. It's not that easy to
fix either, because sometimes you go up there with the
ladder and the ladder. What you're doing with the ladders,
(09:58):
your ladder's going on to the guttering, You damage the guttering.
It's not a very straightforward thing. So yeah, I wouldn't
mind knowing your gut rituals, what you do, because particularly
where I live, which is coastal, what will happen quite
often is sand will get in your guttering, and then
seeds get in your guttering, and grass will grow in
(10:20):
your guttering. And you've got to go up there fairly regularly,
i'd say annually. You've got to remove these things that
are like three feet long, kind of rooty things that
live in your guttering. They're quite satisfying to pull out,
and then you pull them on, you drop them look
(10:40):
terrible on your paper, but that's what it is. That's
what you've got to do because otherwise the guttering just pulls.
The water just pulls, it goes over the edge. And
I've spoken to builders and they say, what happens. The
guttering goes and the water comes down, and then your
foundations go. So if anything, and I believe strong in this.
As far as guttering, the most important maintenance you can
(11:01):
do in your house is keeping the guttering clean because
when that goes, it starts eroding the piles, and then
you're in a world to hurt.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yes, you don't want your spouting overflowing, because they'll run
down the inside of your walls, not just the outside.
But the really disturbing thing there is that Marcus called
some gutters and it's spouting he's talking about, isn't it spouting?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Gutters?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Are things on the street, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Have? We got to burn.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Verge situation, a batch slashing, bribe situation.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Some people call it one thing, some people pull it another.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It's spouting, it's not guttering, surely anyway. I definitely don't
need things once things are growing out of it that
you've let it too late. He's right, get onto it.
Whatever it is, gathering or spouting, I am that's enough.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
That's enough. Gutter talk. I'll see you back here again.
We'll try and clean up around for tomorrow. Us talking
it be.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
For more from newstalkset B listen live on air or online,
and keep our shows with you wherever you go with
our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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