October 2, 2025 • 13 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) Very Meme-able/More Wagging of the Dog/About Your Firetrucks.../Too Much Tramadol/Fresh Fish
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart. We are
looking back at Thursday. Ryan wants a word about MMP.
This might be a bad time for your house to
burn down, because it's like firefighters are going ice froke.
We're being prescribed too much tramadol apparently, and how.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
To restore a giant flesh.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But before any of that, so Blomberg stunted again for
some reason. I guess it's good to.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Draw attention to.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But yeah, sail the boats of the to Gaza and
everybody's been detained again. That's sort of groundhome day as
far as this goes.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Does what happened to Greta in June. She was on
the flotilla that got stopped by the IDF and they
took her to ash Dodd and they kept her for
a few hours, and then they tried to make her
watch a video of the October seven massacre. She didn't
want to, and then they put her on a plane
in the back row right in front of the toilets,
so there wasn't even any reclining space for her. And
then they packed her off home and that was fine,
and so they got on some warships and they tried
(01:27):
to do it again. So it was always going to
play out in exactly the same way. And for that reason,
I think it is fair to call this a stunt,
being that what they're doing is something that they know
has no reasonable chance of success, which is delivering aid
to Gaza, but they're doing it anyway to draw attention
to Gaza.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
That's a stunt.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I'm not going to criticize them for wanting to draw
attention to Gaza because it is horrific and intolerable what's
happening there. And if there is any doubt that the
Israelis are deliberately constraining the flow of aid, I think
that was quite quite obviously dispelled this week when the
Trump Peace Plan was released and it promised that if
Hamasi accepts the deal, then full aid will be immediately
sent into the Gaza strip, which is essentially I think
(02:05):
you can see an admission that full aid is currently
withheld from the Gaza Strip. So I understand why they
want to draw attention to it, but I still don't
have much time for stunts like this because generally they
don't actually draw attention to the thing that they're trying
to draw attention to, which is the starvation in Gaza.
They only really draw attention to themselves, which is Greha
(02:26):
and her mates. That's what we're talking about. We're not
talking about Gaza today, are we We're talking about Gresha
and her mates. The whole thing becomes about the safety
and the treatment of the activists, not the safety and
the treatment of the people of Gaza. And frankly, they are,
in my opinion, of no value whatsoever to the people
of Gaza right now.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Obviously, I do hope the IDEAF treats these kids well
our diplomats. Diplomats have asked for as much, but they
knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I often I like to sort of look at the
news through the filter of my twenty one year old
nearly twenty two year old daughter, because she just needs
to get all her news via social media, and so
of course there's a lot of very memorable stuff coming
out of this latest detainment because it was all sort
(03:18):
of they made sure it was all sort of live
stream as it happened, and like, you know, she literally
said to me and said, oh man, it's terrible what
this is happening with all these boats being you know
and obvious.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, that was the point of the exercise, right, So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Just never see this to amaze me how one sided
the story is. It's presented to people on social media
or on the internet generally, because it's all curated around
the rest of your stuff, you know, whereas I sit
here trying to figure out what's happening from all sides, but.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't know. I haven't figured that out, so I
didn't know what to tell her. Really news talk, right.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So mmp Ryan wants a word before or against wonder.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
What he voted for.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Seewan would have liked, of course, the option of flogging
off the fifty one percent of the energy companies that
we do own. But on the other hand, Martua Shane
wanted to buy the rest back. It's what we call
a political halfway house. Critics on this side say we
needed more intervention, Critics on that side say we need less.
What we voters need to decide is whether this country
(04:33):
needs bold action or incrementalism. Do we need radical or
do we want compromise. In twenty twenty, Jacinda Adourns scored
the first single party majority since nineteen ninety three, first
under MMP and then burn the reputation of absolute power. Basically,
let's be real, nobody's going to give national carte blanche
come twenty twenty six. So if the polls and the
(04:54):
moods of the board rooms and the talk on the
street actually reflect reality, then we need to decide which
side we want national pull towards economic nationalism in New
Zealand first or free market libertarian and act. And until
then we'll get more reports firing out blank recommendations, more
decisions that appease everyone, but fix nothing. This decision basically
(05:18):
went down like any three way messy, hard work took ages,
and no one really leaves completely satisfying.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Wow, got a bit gross at the end there, wait
to take it there, but yeah, we went from this.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's right.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
This is the problem with MMP that we went from
the minority party is not having any say about anything
ever to literally seeming to hold the balance.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Of power all the time. So it's from literally lurched
from one extreme to the other.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I always like to have the moral high ground on
here because I did not vote for m MP. So yeah,
I always whenever you have this sort of conversation about
how come you know uzy on first and accidity pulling
the shots here, I can always go, well, you go
to THROUGHMIMP backs to the you doesn't actually get us
(06:22):
anywhere that Yeah, at least I could say I told
you so?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Do you talk?
Speaker 7 (06:25):
SI?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Been so firefighters they are going on strife.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Apparently it's hope.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
For a rainy weight rainy weekend.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
FIN spent millions of dollars and five years shipping the
twenty eight medium sized fire trucks to Britain to get
them fitted out. They've now returned, and the two trial
runs at packing gear on them last month did not
go well. According to the firefighters who put the refitted
(06:57):
appliances through their paces, the trucks would be a lot
better than the existing trucks if all they were doing
was pumping water. They're very good at pumping water, better
than the old trucks. But eleven of the twenty eight
trucks are meant to be rescue tenders equipped with a
broad range of gear for fire rescues, car crashes and storms.
(07:18):
Firefighters are so much more than firefighters, you know, they
are attending all sorts of rescues and they need the
equipment to keep members of the public safe and themselves safe.
I do not think this is unreasonable. And imagine how
much the person has paid who made the decision to
send the fire appliances to Britain to get them fitted out,
(07:39):
who didn't get the tape measure. You know, I'd be
a bit brassed off far as a firefighter too. On
that alone. I'd say give the guys and girls a
pay bump.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yes, this is just another line of you know, it's
like the nurses, like the teachers, even the doctors, firefighters,
these are the people who should be paid more than
anybody at our society. And then you've got the people
who are in charge of things, presumably people who are
in charge of things like making sure the fire tracks
(08:13):
are the right size, getting paid the most.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
There's something wrong there, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't think that's anything to do with the ment
I think that's an even larger question, isn't it that
system speaking of medical issues actually mentioning that their missus
and doctors in there apparently are They're giving everybody premidole
all the time, and it's not good according to Meta.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
So yeah, someone was saying, before you know, how did
I know I was addicted? Well, I knew I was
addicted when I tried to lower my because I was
just increasing increasing my dosage. I tried to lower it,
and then I just started getting incredibly strangely anxious. I
could feel the nose, here is the fingers growing, the
nails growing, and my fingers.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
My teeth.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
I think it's because I hadn't felt anything at all
for so long that my ability to deal with anything
had gone. So every part of me felt really awkward
and uncomfortable and slightly painful fall on, just even my
teeth in my guns. And the six said, how did
Matt kick the trama? Dol Can he explain that? Well,
what I did is I locked myself in my room
(09:19):
and the family stayed out of there for a while,
and I left the last ten I had in a
in a pottle in front of the TV, and I
just just stared at them because because I talked to
my dad and he said, you don't want to try
and kick when you've got none left. Yeah, yeah, so
that the key is to kick when you could have
some more. So I just stared at it and just
use all my WheelPower not to not to take it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Wow, that was full on.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I was hoping because it was Matt, you know, I
was hoping entertaining story, but it was actually more of.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
A harrowing story.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I was on tremadol for a short time and last
time I broke his shoulder. I didn't stay on it
very long. Fine, while I was on it a bit
a bit like man coming off. It was when I
got the weird dreams and.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, problems sleeping and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And I know somebody else who when they were on
it had amazing hallucinations of you know, weird.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Fairy tale like people coming into the hospital room.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And I think she was a smoker, and she didn't
tell the medical people that she was a smoker.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think there might have been a mistake.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So I think it was a bit of nick team,
which all teamed up with the effects of the trail dolls.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think there might have been intershit news talk z Bean.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm not sure if she was seeing giant fish. How
do you restore a giant fish by the way, No,
I don't know what's going on either.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
In Rikaia there is a salmon. I presume it's fiberglass.
The council have approved three hundred thousand dollars for it
to be refurbished, which I don't want to be overly
(11:18):
mean spirited, but what's with all these communities with their
icons that continually need You think that builds something, it
would be fit for it and it would last. I'm
thinking it's a giant power shell in Riveton now that
cost a fortune to be rejuged up. There's a giant
wave in Collak Bay that's always taking money to be refurbished.
(11:39):
And these things are poorly thought out and I think
probably fairly poorly built that they need constant maintenance. I
think the thing with good sculpture, if you'd call it
sculpture or good public art, is that doesn't continually need
rejuging up. But threevend thousand dollars fresh Burton and get this,
(11:59):
it had that not so long ago. They'd done that
already two thousand and five, there's been one hundred and
twenty thousand giving it a refresh. And presume it's just
to paint.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I guess some things are always true, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Fish is one of the hardest things.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
To keep fresh, even if it's just a giant pretend fish.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Marcus is right about that, doesn't it?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
You should?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That should be part of your thought process, isn't it
when you're doing a sculpture.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
How's it going to weather? I think that the wind ones.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, there's like the wind wand and then there's
always one fire Wellington Airport there.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
They do quite well in the wind. I think.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I do worry about the giant birds. There's one at
the intersection of State Hio one where it goes off
the the Chaimis goes off to pnu Era at one
way and then after tea out the Other's a big
giant bird in the middle.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Of that new roundabout. That's pretty cool, but I wonder
if it's going to fall over one day.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And there's another even more impressive bird at the at
the end of well what's currently the end of the
Northern Motorway, just just north of Walkworth. That's a fantastic sculpture,
that one. But yeah, I wouldn't back it to not
fall over in a Wellington style wind to say ah,
I say it's tricky and on that note, I'll leave
(13:29):
you for a couple of days. Move back with a
weekend edition of Whatever This Is on Monday.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Friday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart. We are
looking back at Thursday. Ryan wants a word about MMP.
This might be a bad time for your house to
burn down, because it's like firefighters are going ice froke.
We're being prescribed too much tramadol apparently, and how.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
To restore a giant flesh.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
But before any of that, so Blomberg stunted again for
some reason. I guess it's good to.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Draw attention to.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
But yeah, sail the boats of the to Gaza and
everybody's been detained again. That's sort of groundhome day as
far as this goes.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Does what happened to Greta in June. She was on
the flotilla that got stopped by the IDF and they
took her to ash Dodd and they kept her for
a few hours, and then they tried to make her
watch a video of the October seven massacre. She didn't
want to, and then they put her on a plane
in the back row right in front of the toilets,
so there wasn't even any reclining space for her. And
then they packed her off home and that was fine,
and so they got on some warships and they tried
(01:27):
to do it again. So it was always going to
play out in exactly the same way. And for that reason,
I think it is fair to call this a stunt,
being that what they're doing is something that they know
has no reasonable chance of success, which is delivering aid
to Gaza, but they're doing it anyway to draw attention
to Gaza.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
That's a stunt.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I'm not going to criticize them for wanting to draw
attention to Gaza because it is horrific and intolerable what's
happening there. And if there is any doubt that the
Israelis are deliberately constraining the flow of aid, I think
that was quite quite obviously dispelled this week when the
Trump Peace Plan was released and it promised that if
Hamasi accepts the deal, then full aid will be immediately
sent into the Gaza strip, which is essentially I think
(02:05):
you can see an admission that full aid is currently
withheld from the Gaza Strip. So I understand why they
want to draw attention to it, but I still don't
have much time for stunts like this because generally they
don't actually draw attention to the thing that they're trying
to draw attention to, which is the starvation in Gaza.
They only really draw attention to themselves, which is Greha
(02:26):
and her mates. That's what we're talking about. We're not
talking about Gaza today, are we We're talking about Gresha
and her mates. The whole thing becomes about the safety
and the treatment of the activists, not the safety and
the treatment of the people of Gaza. And frankly, they are,
in my opinion, of no value whatsoever to the people
of Gaza right now.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Obviously, I do hope the IDEAF treats these kids well
our diplomats. Diplomats have asked for as much, but they
knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's very interesting.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I often I like to sort of look at the
news through the filter of my twenty one year old
nearly twenty two year old daughter, because she just needs
to get all her news via social media, and so
of course there's a lot of very memorable stuff coming
out of this latest detainment because it was all sort
(03:18):
of they made sure it was all sort of live
stream as it happened, and like, you know, she literally
said to me and said, oh man, it's terrible what
this is happening with all these boats being you know
and obvious.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, that was the point of the exercise, right, So yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Just never see this to amaze me how one sided
the story is. It's presented to people on social media
or on the internet generally, because it's all curated around
the rest of your stuff, you know, whereas I sit
here trying to figure out what's happening from all sides, but.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I don't know. I haven't figured that out, so I
didn't know what to tell her. Really news talk, right.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So mmp Ryan wants a word before or against wonder.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
What he voted for.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Seewan would have liked, of course, the option of flogging
off the fifty one percent of the energy companies that
we do own. But on the other hand, Martua Shane
wanted to buy the rest back. It's what we call
a political halfway house. Critics on this side say we
needed more intervention, Critics on that side say we need less.
What we voters need to decide is whether this country
(04:33):
needs bold action or incrementalism. Do we need radical or
do we want compromise. In twenty twenty, Jacinda Adourns scored
the first single party majority since nineteen ninety three, first
under MMP and then burn the reputation of absolute power. Basically,
let's be real, nobody's going to give national carte blanche
come twenty twenty six. So if the polls and the
(04:54):
moods of the board rooms and the talk on the
street actually reflect reality, then we need to decide which
side we want national pull towards economic nationalism in New
Zealand first or free market libertarian and act. And until
then we'll get more reports firing out blank recommendations, more
decisions that appease everyone, but fix nothing. This decision basically
(05:18):
went down like any three way messy, hard work took ages,
and no one really leaves completely satisfying.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Wow, got a bit gross at the end there, wait
to take it there, but yeah, we went from this.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
He's right.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
This is the problem with MMP that we went from
the minority party is not having any say about anything
ever to literally seeming to hold the balance.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Of power all the time. So it's from literally lurched
from one extreme to the other.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I always like to have the moral high ground on
here because I did not vote for m MP. So yeah,
I always whenever you have this sort of conversation about
how come you know uzy on first and accidity pulling
the shots here, I can always go, well, you go
to THROUGHMIMP backs to the you doesn't actually get us
(06:22):
anywhere that Yeah, at least I could say I told
you so?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Do you talk?
Speaker 7 (06:25):
SI?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Been so firefighters they are going on strife.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Apparently it's hope.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
For a rainy weight rainy weekend.
Speaker 7 (06:35):
FIN spent millions of dollars and five years shipping the
twenty eight medium sized fire trucks to Britain to get
them fitted out. They've now returned, and the two trial
runs at packing gear on them last month did not
go well. According to the firefighters who put the refitted
(06:57):
appliances through their paces, the trucks would be a lot
better than the existing trucks if all they were doing
was pumping water. They're very good at pumping water, better
than the old trucks. But eleven of the twenty eight
trucks are meant to be rescue tenders equipped with a
broad range of gear for fire rescues, car crashes and storms.
(07:18):
Firefighters are so much more than firefighters, you know, they
are attending all sorts of rescues and they need the
equipment to keep members of the public safe and themselves safe.
I do not think this is unreasonable. And imagine how
much the person has paid who made the decision to
send the fire appliances to Britain to get them fitted out,
(07:39):
who didn't get the tape measure. You know, I'd be
a bit brassed off far as a firefighter too. On
that alone. I'd say give the guys and girls a
pay bump.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yes, this is just another line of you know, it's
like the nurses, like the teachers, even the doctors, firefighters,
these are the people who should be paid more than
anybody at our society. And then you've got the people
who are in charge of things, presumably people who are
in charge of things like making sure the fire tracks
(08:13):
are the right size, getting paid the most.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
There's something wrong there, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't think that's anything to do with the ment
I think that's an even larger question, isn't it that
system speaking of medical issues actually mentioning that their missus
and doctors in there apparently are They're giving everybody premidole
all the time, and it's not good according to Meta.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
So yeah, someone was saying, before you know, how did
I know I was addicted? Well, I knew I was
addicted when I tried to lower my because I was
just increasing increasing my dosage. I tried to lower it,
and then I just started getting incredibly strangely anxious. I
could feel the nose, here is the fingers growing, the
nails growing, and my fingers.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
My teeth.
Speaker 8 (08:57):
I think it's because I hadn't felt anything at all
for so long that my ability to deal with anything
had gone. So every part of me felt really awkward
and uncomfortable and slightly painful fall on, just even my
teeth in my guns. And the six said, how did
Matt kick the trama? Dol Can he explain that? Well,
what I did is I locked myself in my room
(09:19):
and the family stayed out of there for a while,
and I left the last ten I had in a
in a pottle in front of the TV, and I
just just stared at them because because I talked to
my dad and he said, you don't want to try
and kick when you've got none left. Yeah, yeah, so
that the key is to kick when you could have
some more. So I just stared at it and just
use all my WheelPower not to not to take it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Wow, that was full on.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I was hoping because it was Matt, you know, I
was hoping entertaining story, but it was actually more of.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
A harrowing story.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I was on tremadol for a short time and last
time I broke his shoulder. I didn't stay on it
very long. Fine, while I was on it a bit
a bit like man coming off. It was when I
got the weird dreams and.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, problems sleeping and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And I know somebody else who when they were on
it had amazing hallucinations of you know, weird.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Fairy tale like people coming into the hospital room.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And I think she was a smoker, and she didn't
tell the medical people that she was a smoker.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think there might have been a mistake.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
So I think it was a bit of nick team,
which all teamed up with the effects of the trail dolls.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think there might have been intershit news talk z Bean.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I'm not sure if she was seeing giant fish. How
do you restore a giant fish by the way, No,
I don't know what's going on either.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
In Rikaia there is a salmon. I presume it's fiberglass.
The council have approved three hundred thousand dollars for it
to be refurbished, which I don't want to be overly
(11:18):
mean spirited, but what's with all these communities with their
icons that continually need You think that builds something, it
would be fit for it and it would last. I'm
thinking it's a giant power shell in Riveton now that
cost a fortune to be rejuged up. There's a giant
wave in Collak Bay that's always taking money to be refurbished.
(11:39):
And these things are poorly thought out and I think
probably fairly poorly built that they need constant maintenance. I
think the thing with good sculpture, if you'd call it
sculpture or good public art, is that doesn't continually need
rejuging up. But threevend thousand dollars fresh Burton and get this,
(11:59):
it had that not so long ago. They'd done that
already two thousand and five, there's been one hundred and
twenty thousand giving it a refresh. And presume it's just
to paint.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I guess some things are always true, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Fish is one of the hardest things.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
To keep fresh, even if it's just a giant pretend fish.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Marcus is right about that, doesn't it?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
You should?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
That should be part of your thought process, isn't it
when you're doing a sculpture.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
How's it going to weather? I think that the wind ones.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You know, there's like the wind wand and then there's
always one fire Wellington Airport there.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
They do quite well in the wind. I think.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I do worry about the giant birds. There's one at
the intersection of State Hio one where it goes off
the the Chaimis goes off to pnu Era at one
way and then after tea out the Other's a big
giant bird in the middle.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Of that new roundabout. That's pretty cool, but I wonder
if it's going to fall over one day.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
And there's another even more impressive bird at the at
the end of well what's currently the end of the
Northern Motorway, just just north of Walkworth. That's a fantastic sculpture,
that one. But yeah, I wouldn't back it to not
fall over in a Wellington style wind to say ah,
I say it's tricky and on that note, I'll leave
(13:29):
you for a couple of days. Move back with a
weekend edition of Whatever This Is on Monday.
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