October 5, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Taking Cancer As Seriously As Cancer/Up and Down All Blacks/A Classic Is Always a Classic/Removing Trip Hazards/From Youth to Something Else and Back Again
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean The Weekend edition,
first of yesterday's News Im glen Hart. We are looking
back at Sunday and Saturday, not necessarily in that order,
but that is how weekends go and some kind of order.
So let's look on back on the All Blacks sort
of up and down, kind of a revuy championship for them,
which meant they didn't win it. Jack wants to play
(00:45):
tribute to Linny Dodd, Francesca wants to play tribute to
people who suffer from load vision. And Jurumy read Moore
has changing tack again in his career. We'll find out
how before any of that, let's.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Talk actually when it comes to fifty eight, how many discussions,
how much? How do the discussions go, like whether it's
fifty six, fifty seven, fifty eight, fifty nine, is it
simply a question of where you expect capacity to be
freed up in your best estimate on that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
That's the key enabler to enable us to reduce the age.
Further is access to colonoscopies, and so that is the
critical path to being able to reduce the age. The
modeling is that by reducing the age by two years,
that'll be requiring an additional I think another one thousand
klonoscopies to be done annually ultimately. At the same time,
(01:38):
we are increasing the number of klonoscopies through the diagnostic
Investment program we announced recently, and whilst we're doing that,
we're modeling what's going to be required to achieve a
further reduction in the age. Administer of Health, I want
to see this age reduced as fast as possible. The
Prime Minister has made that very clear that that's what
(01:58):
he wants to see happen, and so this is really
the first step. While is an enormous amount of work
being done so that we can now then make the
next step.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I guess is that you see fifty eight as being
safely achievable.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It can be achieved, and as being achieved. That's what
we're doing right now. But we acknowledge the fact that
bell cancer is our second largest cancer killer. Younger people
are getting it and that's where we need to move
faster and that's why we're doing the preparation work now
to be able to make a further reductions soon.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What you do need to know is if you've got
a history of beowel cancer in your family, let your
doctor know and you'll be amazed at how quickly they'll
stick a camera up you. That's having to me, and
it's not all that sounds bad, But I did get
this cool little pair of little socks out of it.
(02:50):
They give you to start your feet getting cold when
you're having the procedure. They got a little bit of
rubber tread on the bottom. I find those quite useful.
I still got those and they stopped my feet getting
cold in the middle of winter. So you know, get
yourself checked out, possibly get some socks.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Let's talk to why Crockett about the All Blacks. He's
one of these people who actually understand what's going on
in the front row.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
For example, how happy do you think the All Blacks
coaching staff the players will be with their performance last night?
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Well?
Speaker 7 (03:29):
I don't think yeah, I think they'll be really happy
to finish on a good note. You know, there's certainly
semester picks that didn't go to playing, I think. But
all in all, I think it was pretty good performance.
Definitely good to see least to get back out there,
and I thought he played really well, and some of
the other young guys that have had a crack Quintu
poor again. I thought he played outstanding, really good off
(03:52):
the beach last week and really took his chances tonight.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, he was a standout, wasn't it. At center he
hasn't played there a lot. Do you think he might
be a long term option now? In that thirteen jumper?
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Well, he was outstanding, he wasn't he. I think he
came on the last week as well, but definitely I
think it's certainly put his hand up. And I thought
the other guy obviously, I thought they might have given
Lesser a bit of a bit of time. It sent
her as well, but maybe that's something to come from
the end of your tour.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's a shame that the last game of the competition
was not at a good time for us. My mum
she's quite a big rugby game, probably bigger than me,
and she didn't even watch it. It was too late
for her. So yeah, I don't know how many people
(04:44):
really know how that game went, and they're probably more
interested in the fact that South Africa won their game,
and so it meant that we couldn't win the thing.
Oh well, you talk, okay, So Jack in fatherhood, it's
a big focus for him at the moment. Obviously that
(05:06):
means reading stories. That means well, Harry McCleary, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I reckon?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Children's story books are an art form for which a
lot of people grossly underestimate just how talented you need
to be in order to absolutely nail it to write
a classic, you know what I mean. It's the sort
of thing that, ah, yeah, seems easy enough, but it's
(05:32):
just far more complex than most of us imagine. And
I say art form quite deliberately because finding a blissful
blend of story, language, and images something that delights children
and adults really is an art form. And it's taken
becoming a parent for me to properly appreciate just how
(05:52):
talented the best of the best really are. If the
current reading habits in our household are anything to go by,
I would put Dame Linley Dodd right up there. Five
decades since she started publishing her books haven't lost any
of their magic. They delight my son today as much
(06:12):
as they delighted me when I was a kid. They
haven't lost a sintilla of relevance or appeal. It's funny
a how quality stands the test of time.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So yeah, like I say, Jack's really focused on that
sort of stuff at the moment, which might be why
he was talking to Jeremy read More about his vadst
effort to make music for kids. So we'll come back
and look into that shortly. But in the meantime, Francesca
has been finding out what it's like to suffer from
(06:47):
a low vision. It seems like a strange thing to do,
but anyway.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
It was very clear how much I take for granted
as I rushed through life. I treasure my independence. I
don't think twice about how I'm going to get from
A to B and enjoy the interactions I have with work,
colleagues and others throughout the day. But those who are
blind will have low vision deal with huge inequities every
day which take a functional, financial, and emotional toll. Fifty
eight percent of disabled New Zealanders earned thirty thousand or
(07:14):
less a year, compared with thirty three percent of non
disabled people, and fifty one percent of working age Blind
Low Vision New Zealand members are without a job. Seventy
four percent of youth clients have never had a part
time or summer job. We're all impacted by the rise
and cost of living, but this community is really struggling.
I passively assumed that by twenty twenty five we'd have
(07:36):
removed more of the barriers that make the simplest of
things like getting groceries difficult, But from the conversations and
stories I heard this week, that's clearly not the case.
So as we go about our day to day, maybe
we should just pause for a second each time we
do something and imagine doing it like one of the
one hundred and eighty three thousand Kiwis who are deaf,
who are blind, deaf, blind or low vision. This month
(07:58):
is Blind Low Vision Month. If you've got a moment,
head to Blindlowvision dot org dot enz and see the
work they do. And at the very least, next time
you pass an eat scooter lying across the footpath, pick
it up and move it to the side.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, that is a good suggestion. I h I often
see hazards and things like that, you know, broken glass,
sometimes even just like a bit of rubble or any
of that sort of thing. And it's not because I'm
(08:34):
worried about low vision so much, but as a guy
who's fallen over twice and broken the shoulder twice, went
on each side that certainly had me disabled for a while,
temporarily disabled, I know how easy it is for that
(08:57):
to happen. What I'm saying is, can you just move
that thing? Don't dis ignore it?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
News talk?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Has it been okay?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Midnight Youth? It seems like a long time ago, doesn't it.
You do you even remember Midnight You?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
They were great.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's a shame that they didn't sort of carry on
with it anyway. Jeremy read Moore carried on with it
and now he's carrying on with it in a different way.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Quite a transition from your latest body of work, which
is itself quite a transition from what you've been doing.
I mean, this is this is really something quite different.
So tell us what got you into writing kids music?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I mean, long story, short, covid in a way because
I was already writing a picture book about the superpowers
that can be found in singing. Basically, you know how
kids can find a sense of identity through singing and
the the energy that goes into sort of projecting yourself
(09:53):
as a singer, which is the story of my adult life.
So I wrote this picture book released that there was
a song about singing, a book about singing, so I
had to have a song. I did the song, and
I really enjoyed releasing kids music. But then and as
part of the promotion, and I kind of started looking
into the science behind singing and going, hang on, is
(10:14):
it just me that thinks this is a superpower or
is there more to this? And I started looking into
all of this very thorough research from all around the world,
and it turns out there's all of this amazing stuff
that happens when kids sing and adults sing as well,
but especially when people sing in groups. And so I
had the opportunity to record an album of songs, and
(10:35):
I thought, hey, look, let's make this really intentional and
create songs with music videos that really allow kids to
easily sing with these songs and preferably sing in groups,
because that's actually where so much of the magic happens.
(10:55):
And you know, if you look back into in culture
for thousands of years, group singing is this magic thing.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It is so.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, I think like I even think back to like,
you know, I was. This is not going to become
as a huge shock to many people, but I was
a bit of a theater kid at school. I was
a bit of a music kid. I may have even
competed in various barbershop competitions over the years. But there
is there's something, you know where it is that there's
something kind of primal about it, strangely about you know,
(11:25):
us being social beings, right, there is something about using
our voices together, especially in harmony or something like that,
that triggers something deep inside us.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
That's right, human ritual religion. It goes back thousands of
years people chanting and singing together. And what happens is
the science is showing that brain activity synchronizes, and when
that happens, we almost feel like we're a super organism.
We're one super organism. And so that creates the sense
of connection. And that is what those groups were tapping
(11:57):
into and what we can if we intentionally create the situation.
We can tap into that situation for kids. And when
I think about a classroom of young kids and all
the little clicks and the you know, the cool kids,
the nerdy kids, the outcasts. If they can have three
to six minutes of feeling connected in a day, I mean,
(12:19):
that's that's magic. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So what I'm hearing there is Jeremy feels the saying
about me. There's me about school, terrible place and we
shouldn't have to go there. Ever, I think that's that's what.
I don't gather that anyway. I don't know what you heard.
I am Glenn Hart. There's been news towards has been
the week in edition. I'm glad I'm here and I
don't forge to school anymore, and every just about every day,
(12:44):
I'm thankful for that. And I'll be here again tomorrow
and I'll be thank you for that again to morrow.
See then used.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Talk Talk Said Bean. For more from News Talk Said
b listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcast on
iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said, be
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Used Talk said, be you Talk said, Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
My beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean The Weekend edition,
first of yesterday's News Im glen Hart. We are looking
back at Sunday and Saturday, not necessarily in that order,
but that is how weekends go and some kind of order.
So let's look on back on the All Blacks sort
of up and down, kind of a revuy championship for them,
which meant they didn't win it. Jack wants to play
(00:45):
tribute to Linny Dodd, Francesca wants to play tribute to
people who suffer from load vision. And Jurumy read Moore
has changing tack again in his career. We'll find out
how before any of that, let's.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Talk actually when it comes to fifty eight, how many discussions,
how much? How do the discussions go, like whether it's
fifty six, fifty seven, fifty eight, fifty nine, is it
simply a question of where you expect capacity to be
freed up in your best estimate on that.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
That's the key enabler to enable us to reduce the age.
Further is access to colonoscopies, and so that is the
critical path to being able to reduce the age. The
modeling is that by reducing the age by two years,
that'll be requiring an additional I think another one thousand
klonoscopies to be done annually ultimately. At the same time,
(01:38):
we are increasing the number of klonoscopies through the diagnostic
Investment program we announced recently, and whilst we're doing that,
we're modeling what's going to be required to achieve a
further reduction in the age. Administer of Health, I want
to see this age reduced as fast as possible. The
Prime Minister has made that very clear that that's what
(01:58):
he wants to see happen, and so this is really
the first step. While is an enormous amount of work
being done so that we can now then make the
next step.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I guess is that you see fifty eight as being
safely achievable.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It can be achieved, and as being achieved. That's what
we're doing right now. But we acknowledge the fact that
bell cancer is our second largest cancer killer. Younger people
are getting it and that's where we need to move
faster and that's why we're doing the preparation work now
to be able to make a further reductions soon.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What you do need to know is if you've got
a history of beowel cancer in your family, let your
doctor know and you'll be amazed at how quickly they'll
stick a camera up you. That's having to me, and
it's not all that sounds bad, But I did get
this cool little pair of little socks out of it.
(02:50):
They give you to start your feet getting cold when
you're having the procedure. They got a little bit of
rubber tread on the bottom. I find those quite useful.
I still got those and they stopped my feet getting
cold in the middle of winter. So you know, get
yourself checked out, possibly get some socks.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
News talk, has it been right?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Let's talk to why Crockett about the All Blacks. He's
one of these people who actually understand what's going on
in the front row.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
For example, how happy do you think the All Blacks
coaching staff the players will be with their performance last night?
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Well?
Speaker 7 (03:29):
I don't think yeah, I think they'll be really happy
to finish on a good note. You know, there's certainly
semester picks that didn't go to playing, I think. But
all in all, I think it was pretty good performance.
Definitely good to see least to get back out there,
and I thought he played really well, and some of
the other young guys that have had a crack Quintu
poor again. I thought he played outstanding, really good off
(03:52):
the beach last week and really took his chances tonight.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Yeah, he was a standout, wasn't it. At center he
hasn't played there a lot. Do you think he might
be a long term option now? In that thirteen jumper?
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Well, he was outstanding, he wasn't he. I think he
came on the last week as well, but definitely I
think it's certainly put his hand up. And I thought
the other guy obviously, I thought they might have given
Lesser a bit of a bit of time. It sent
her as well, but maybe that's something to come from
the end of your tour.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's a shame that the last game of the competition
was not at a good time for us. My mum
she's quite a big rugby game, probably bigger than me,
and she didn't even watch it. It was too late
for her. So yeah, I don't know how many people
(04:44):
really know how that game went, and they're probably more
interested in the fact that South Africa won their game,
and so it meant that we couldn't win the thing.
Oh well, you talk, okay, So Jack in fatherhood, it's
a big focus for him at the moment. Obviously that
(05:06):
means reading stories. That means well, Harry McCleary, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I reckon?
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Children's story books are an art form for which a
lot of people grossly underestimate just how talented you need
to be in order to absolutely nail it to write
a classic, you know what I mean. It's the sort
of thing that, ah, yeah, seems easy enough, but it's
(05:32):
just far more complex than most of us imagine. And
I say art form quite deliberately because finding a blissful
blend of story, language, and images something that delights children
and adults really is an art form. And it's taken
becoming a parent for me to properly appreciate just how
(05:52):
talented the best of the best really are. If the
current reading habits in our household are anything to go by,
I would put Dame Linley Dodd right up there. Five
decades since she started publishing her books haven't lost any
of their magic. They delight my son today as much
(06:12):
as they delighted me when I was a kid. They
haven't lost a sintilla of relevance or appeal. It's funny
a how quality stands the test of time.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So yeah, like I say, Jack's really focused on that
sort of stuff at the moment, which might be why
he was talking to Jeremy read More about his vadst
effort to make music for kids. So we'll come back
and look into that shortly. But in the meantime, Francesca
has been finding out what it's like to suffer from
(06:47):
a low vision. It seems like a strange thing to do,
but anyway.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
It was very clear how much I take for granted
as I rushed through life. I treasure my independence. I
don't think twice about how I'm going to get from
A to B and enjoy the interactions I have with work,
colleagues and others throughout the day. But those who are
blind will have low vision deal with huge inequities every
day which take a functional, financial, and emotional toll. Fifty
eight percent of disabled New Zealanders earned thirty thousand or
(07:14):
less a year, compared with thirty three percent of non
disabled people, and fifty one percent of working age Blind
Low Vision New Zealand members are without a job. Seventy
four percent of youth clients have never had a part
time or summer job. We're all impacted by the rise
and cost of living, but this community is really struggling.
I passively assumed that by twenty twenty five we'd have
(07:36):
removed more of the barriers that make the simplest of
things like getting groceries difficult, But from the conversations and
stories I heard this week, that's clearly not the case.
So as we go about our day to day, maybe
we should just pause for a second each time we
do something and imagine doing it like one of the
one hundred and eighty three thousand Kiwis who are deaf,
who are blind, deaf, blind or low vision. This month
(07:58):
is Blind Low Vision Month. If you've got a moment,
head to Blindlowvision dot org dot enz and see the
work they do. And at the very least, next time
you pass an eat scooter lying across the footpath, pick
it up and move it to the side.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, that is a good suggestion. I h I often
see hazards and things like that, you know, broken glass,
sometimes even just like a bit of rubble or any
of that sort of thing. And it's not because I'm
(08:34):
worried about low vision so much, but as a guy
who's fallen over twice and broken the shoulder twice, went
on each side that certainly had me disabled for a while,
temporarily disabled, I know how easy it is for that
(08:57):
to happen. What I'm saying is, can you just move
that thing? Don't dis ignore it?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
News talk?
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Has it been okay?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Midnight Youth? It seems like a long time ago, doesn't it.
You do you even remember Midnight You?
Speaker 7 (09:10):
They were great.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's a shame that they didn't sort of carry on
with it anyway. Jeremy read Moore carried on with it
and now he's carrying on with it in a different way.
Speaker 8 (09:18):
Quite a transition from your latest body of work, which
is itself quite a transition from what you've been doing.
I mean, this is this is really something quite different.
So tell us what got you into writing kids music?
Speaker 6 (09:33):
I mean, long story, short, covid in a way because
I was already writing a picture book about the superpowers
that can be found in singing. Basically, you know how
kids can find a sense of identity through singing and
the the energy that goes into sort of projecting yourself
(09:53):
as a singer, which is the story of my adult life.
So I wrote this picture book released that there was
a song about singing, a book about singing, so I
had to have a song. I did the song, and
I really enjoyed releasing kids music. But then and as
part of the promotion, and I kind of started looking
into the science behind singing and going, hang on, is
(10:14):
it just me that thinks this is a superpower or
is there more to this? And I started looking into
all of this very thorough research from all around the world,
and it turns out there's all of this amazing stuff
that happens when kids sing and adults sing as well,
but especially when people sing in groups. And so I
had the opportunity to record an album of songs, and
(10:35):
I thought, hey, look, let's make this really intentional and
create songs with music videos that really allow kids to
easily sing with these songs and preferably sing in groups,
because that's actually where so much of the magic happens.
(10:55):
And you know, if you look back into in culture
for thousands of years, group singing is this magic thing.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
It is so.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Yeah, I think like I even think back to like,
you know, I was. This is not going to become
as a huge shock to many people, but I was
a bit of a theater kid at school. I was
a bit of a music kid. I may have even
competed in various barbershop competitions over the years. But there
is there's something, you know where it is that there's
something kind of primal about it, strangely about you know,
(11:25):
us being social beings, right, there is something about using
our voices together, especially in harmony or something like that,
that triggers something deep inside us.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
That's right, human ritual religion. It goes back thousands of
years people chanting and singing together. And what happens is
the science is showing that brain activity synchronizes, and when
that happens, we almost feel like we're a super organism.
We're one super organism. And so that creates the sense
of connection. And that is what those groups were tapping
(11:57):
into and what we can if we intentionally create the situation.
We can tap into that situation for kids. And when
I think about a classroom of young kids and all
the little clicks and the you know, the cool kids,
the nerdy kids, the outcasts. If they can have three
to six minutes of feeling connected in a day, I mean,
(12:19):
that's that's magic. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
So what I'm hearing there is Jeremy feels the saying
about me. There's me about school, terrible place and we
shouldn't have to go there. Ever, I think that's that's what.
I don't gather that anyway. I don't know what you heard.
I am Glenn Hart. There's been news towards has been
the week in edition. I'm glad I'm here and I
don't forge to school anymore, and every just about every day,
(12:44):
I'm thankful for that. And I'll be here again tomorrow
and I'll be thank you for that again to morrow.
See then used.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Talk Talk Said Bean. For more from News Talk Said
b listen live on air or online, and keep our
shows with you wherever you go with our podcast on
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