October 28, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) Why We Don't Get What Labour's Pitching/Netball's Nonsense Finally Over/That About Wraps it Up for Fireworks/Podcast Roulette
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday netbor Golush.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's ridiculous, isn't it? Why would we bother anymore? Let's
really come to this. Fireworks are the same thing. We're
over it, aren't we surely?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And then our podcast relet at the end. But before
any of that, so Labor's CGT thing. Have they really
thought through all the applications or are they just going
to let news Talks edb's audience do it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
For them to tie it in with free GP visits
three per person per year when five and six New
Zealanders don't need free visits, what's the point?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You might think it's amazing. If so, I'd love to
hear from you. If this is an absolute game change
of you, I'd love to know how and why. To me,
it's a complete and utter head scratcher. And I'm trying
not to be biased against Chris Hipkins, but I am
(01:38):
a bit little bit, but I'm open minded to Barbara
Edmunds and Asha Verra.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I quite like that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
In terms of the policy they announce. I mean, Chrishipkins
is a likable chap, but you know, I just think
he's been a failure when it comes to delivering any
kind of policy. I'm willing to keep a relatively open
mind to Barbara Edmonds and a Shaverra, but they're not
doing much to convince me. Why give something to people
they do not need? That's been a criticism of Nash
(02:08):
not with the tax cuts and the landlord rebates. Why
give something to people that don't need Why not target
it to the people who do need it? And what's
the point of bringing in a capital gains tax if
it's going to be put into harness with three free
(02:29):
GP visits to people who may or may not need them,
give us one or two out of ten.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So I think it's easy when you work at news doorks,
you'd be too.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Tack a slightly prejudice so to prejudge stuff like this
before the electorates had to go at it. And I
actually do wonder if Flavor have done something kind of
clever here, because people often conflate two completely separate issues,
(03:03):
and they often say, ah, well that's great, but what
are you going to do about the health system or
what are you going to do about the school system,
even though those two things might not be connected. So
Labour's just done it for them. They've just connected that,
which might to the people who vote Labor that might
not be the dumbest thing in the.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
World news talk has it been, or it might be
the dumbest thing in the world.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Honestly, you haven't seen such a sad lineup of people
announcing something they're proud of. This is the second policy
announcement that Labor has managed to stuff up in just
about a week's a week's time, a week's duration, which
hardly looks convincing, does it. But then it also sucks
for them that this is the policy that they're taking
to the election because I don't care what the baltwere,
(03:49):
and Wellington tells us, I do not believe that a
majority of New Zealanders want a capital gains tax, no
matter how many times Labor pictures it, no matter how
many times they try to convince us that everyone else
wants it. Why don't you want it? And you know
I'm right when I say this, because look at how
Labour's selling this today. Even they sound like they're not
so sure that we want to see. They've double policied
it today. They've told us what they're going to spend
(04:12):
the money on, which is three free GP visits a
year for us, basically to try to sell it to us,
basically to try to convince us that a CGT is
good for us. And also just look at how gleeful
the National Party sound. They know that this made twenty
twenty six just a little bit more likely for them.
What I now want to know though, is who leack
this to the media. Was it someone who was just
(04:34):
really excited that they knew something so they leaked it
to the media and blew up their own parties big
announcement Or was it someone who disagrees with Labor and
wanted to blow up their own parties big announcement. Either way,
they've just made an unconvincing policy even less convincing today.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean they're all in, aren't they. I think
they're going all in. It's the politics of division. It's
the you know, the the average joe against the wretch
prex all of that they've do. It seems to me
that they've seen that they've got a bit of a
(05:09):
bump in the polls and they just want to consolidate that.
So they're not trying to appeal to the people who
listen to news talks, ZEDB or indeed host it. They're
talking to the other people and just making sure that
they keep their attention, saying, hey, guess what, we're going
to take some money off them, and we need to.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Get you to the doctor with that money. Is it
really such a dumb idea?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You talk, okay, speaking of weird things that none of
us can understand netball, that's I mean, why draw it
out for so long? If this was going to be
the outcome, Dame Noleene's back, carry on, oh and on,
(05:54):
we won a game.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
The problem with this whole saga is that for the
most part, we the public have been left yessing what
was really going on behind the scenes. And the reason
became that we all became so invested in this thing
and eventually it became political. Was the narrative around story.
Speak to your average punter, and they made up their minds.
Dame Knowles is a bloody legend. She's a straight shooter.
(06:15):
She calls a spade a spade. She's hard and hearty
and gets results. It's not Ted Lee Wings, it's professional sport.
And that's why this story I think took off like
a rocket. High performance sport is about exactly that. If
you can't take the heat, you get out of the kitchen.
The public backed Dame Knowles because this looked like a
small group of players, notably excluding star Grace Wiki who
(06:38):
didn't like her coaching style. They got sour grapes. They
thought they were bigger than the boss. With Netball New
Zealand acting as an over zealous HR department, the whole
thing spoiled and went tits up. Anyway, she's back, Dame
Knowles is back, and what have we learned? Well, hewis
don't mind a little bit of argie bargie in sport
so long as you're winning.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, I was well summarize I think by Ryan there.
We quite often tend to forget about that whole let's when.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The sportsball thing, if we can, it'd be great, use
your setting so hot off the bag.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Last week of Marcus getting stuck into Halloween again and
not being a fan of it, I think we.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Know where he stands on fireworks as well. I know
where I do.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
I was reading a fairly good article today about fireworks
and the question was will New Zealand ever banned fireworks?
I think there's a few things that are a play here.
I think no government these days wants to be seeing
as interfering because people don't.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Like that.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Nanny state da da day. You know, a lot of
people think that we should be able to make our
own decisions. We don't want governments over legislating. And there's
been a couple of instances that governments in their third
term or second term have interfered with what people want
to do. One was cats and dairies, I think, and
one was it one with light bulb and one with
(08:08):
shower heads.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
All you know.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
It was when government kind of overreached and people didn't
like it all. They thought it was unnecessary. And I
think that's what the government's attitude is towards fireworks. They
don't want to say, Okay, you can't do this because
you look like the fun police. I would have thought
probably they would have been banned by now, but they
haven't been. There's a couple of things at play. The
(08:31):
weather's been appalling, the wind is bad and it's dry,
and the country probably as a fire risk. So yeah,
it does seem to be the wrong time of their
But also too, we've got festivals changing. Dewali seems to
coincide with this time of the year, as even up
at a Dewali celebration, and anette friend was dancing at
Dewali celebration Danita over the weekend. So yeah, that's right
(08:53):
in the middle of this. So there's Dewali to think
about that. They like fireworks also, and then the other
thing is the whole pet angle.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
No, my dog seems pretty unfazed when people let off
fireworks in our neighborhood. It's weird, a pretty natural sense
of when another dog is walking by.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He can be at the backyard of our house and
comes randing through the house. So you can just check
out the dog that's walking by. How he heard it,
smelt it, saw it. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And yet things like fireworks. Well, I can be out
for a walk and there can be a cat sitting
on a mail box.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
If you walk past it, he just doesn't even notice it.
Oh yeah, fire which is a huge man stupid thing.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
News Talks It Bean podcast Roulette, Larry the Lamb, Matt Heath,
Tyler Adams.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Let's go. What have you got huge?
Speaker 9 (09:58):
And if you're an a Tigo fan like I am,
just business as usual, give us can give us a
sniff in the first half and then just dominate as
Canterbury yeap. But for me, the most exciting part of
that whole thing was Larry the Lamb. Do you see
Larry Lamb the mascot at halftime?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Now I didn't, but I've just watched the video. Oh
my god.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Larry the Lamb did the length of the field in
ten seconds ten point three seconds.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
That's Olympic level, Olympic.
Speaker 9 (10:27):
Level speed and a mascot outfit. Does anyone know who
Larry the Lamb is? Is that the normal Larry of
the Lamb? Or did they put a ring in inside
Larry the Lamb? Is that a notable news? Someone that
can run that fast must be on the radar of
athletics in New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Surely did you see the trunks on Larry the Lamb?
I mean just when I'm watching the videos, I mean
that lamb can run, yeah, and then massive legs and.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
Blew a hammy at the end, although I was wondering
was that part of the whole performance. Someone out there
knows who Larry Lamber is, and maybe there's a normal
Larry of the Lamb that was swapped out, so someone
might know who Larry the Lamb normally is and know
that Larry the Lamb was sitting at home. Yeah, or
did anyone see Larry the Lamb putting the lamb head on?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
We've got to a massless guy. We need to find
out who there's valarees or it could be a shila
for a Wiener.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
No, that's a dude. That Larry Lamb was a dude. Yeah,
I could tell by those hemmis. Yeah, my goodness. The
pace on Larry of the Lamb.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
So what was at ten point three seconds? One hundred
meters I believe.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
So that's fast with a head like a lamb hit on.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, and like Canterbury, you know, giving a tago we taste.
He gave the other runners, the other mascots a we
taste before he just opened up at about me to
forty and then nobody had a chance.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Steely Dan used to be really fast. The County's Menico
mascot used to be really fast back in the day
but has dropped off in recent years. Yeah, and Leo
the Lion from Wellington Slow.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
It's an impressive ounding. I mean, when you've got a
lamb's hit on on on top of your head to
be able to run that, that is impressive.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
So it was an interesting that. That was an interesting
situation sporting wise.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Again. Yes, I actually saw.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
That that mascot race, so I should have known what
it was about, and yet.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I just saw M plus T Larry the Lamb and
I thought, oh, let's be crazy. I suppose it was
a bit crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I am a bit crazy. Let's all be a bit
crazy again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Us Talking Talkings it Bean For more from News Talk
said B. Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from news talk S ed B.
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iHeartRadio News Talk said B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Wednesday.
First with yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Tuesday netbor Golush.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
It's ridiculous, isn't it? Why would we bother anymore? Let's
really come to this. Fireworks are the same thing. We're
over it, aren't we surely?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And then our podcast relet at the end. But before
any of that, so Labor's CGT thing. Have they really
thought through all the applications or are they just going
to let news Talks edb's audience do it.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
For them to tie it in with free GP visits
three per person per year when five and six New
Zealanders don't need free visits, what's the point?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You might think it's amazing. If so, I'd love to
hear from you. If this is an absolute game change
of you, I'd love to know how and why. To me,
it's a complete and utter head scratcher. And I'm trying
not to be biased against Chris Hipkins, but I am
(01:38):
a bit little bit, but I'm open minded to Barbara
Edmunds and Asha Verra.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I quite like that.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
In terms of the policy they announce. I mean, Chrishipkins
is a likable chap, but you know, I just think
he's been a failure when it comes to delivering any
kind of policy. I'm willing to keep a relatively open
mind to Barbara Edmonds and a Shaverra, but they're not
doing much to convince me. Why give something to people
they do not need? That's been a criticism of Nash
(02:08):
not with the tax cuts and the landlord rebates. Why
give something to people that don't need Why not target
it to the people who do need it? And what's
the point of bringing in a capital gains tax if
it's going to be put into harness with three free
(02:29):
GP visits to people who may or may not need them,
give us one or two out of ten.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So I think it's easy when you work at news doorks,
you'd be too.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Tack a slightly prejudice so to prejudge stuff like this
before the electorates had to go at it. And I
actually do wonder if Flavor have done something kind of
clever here, because people often conflate two completely separate issues,
(03:03):
and they often say, ah, well that's great, but what
are you going to do about the health system or
what are you going to do about the school system,
even though those two things might not be connected. So
Labour's just done it for them. They've just connected that,
which might to the people who vote Labor that might
not be the dumbest thing in the.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
World news talk has it been, or it might be
the dumbest thing in the world.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Honestly, you haven't seen such a sad lineup of people
announcing something they're proud of. This is the second policy
announcement that Labor has managed to stuff up in just
about a week's a week's time, a week's duration, which
hardly looks convincing, does it. But then it also sucks
for them that this is the policy that they're taking
to the election because I don't care what the baltwere,
(03:49):
and Wellington tells us, I do not believe that a
majority of New Zealanders want a capital gains tax, no
matter how many times Labor pictures it, no matter how
many times they try to convince us that everyone else
wants it. Why don't you want it? And you know
I'm right when I say this, because look at how
Labour's selling this today. Even they sound like they're not
so sure that we want to see. They've double policied
it today. They've told us what they're going to spend
(04:12):
the money on, which is three free GP visits a
year for us, basically to try to sell it to us,
basically to try to convince us that a CGT is
good for us. And also just look at how gleeful
the National Party sound. They know that this made twenty
twenty six just a little bit more likely for them.
What I now want to know though, is who leack
this to the media. Was it someone who was just
(04:34):
really excited that they knew something so they leaked it
to the media and blew up their own parties big
announcement Or was it someone who disagrees with Labor and
wanted to blow up their own parties big announcement. Either way,
they've just made an unconvincing policy even less convincing today.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, I mean they're all in, aren't they. I think
they're going all in. It's the politics of division. It's
the you know, the the average joe against the wretch
prex all of that they've do. It seems to me
that they've seen that they've got a bit of a
(05:09):
bump in the polls and they just want to consolidate that.
So they're not trying to appeal to the people who
listen to news talks, ZEDB or indeed host it. They're
talking to the other people and just making sure that
they keep their attention, saying, hey, guess what, we're going
to take some money off them, and we need to.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Get you to the doctor with that money. Is it
really such a dumb idea?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
You talk, okay, speaking of weird things that none of
us can understand netball, that's I mean, why draw it
out for so long? If this was going to be
the outcome, Dame Noleene's back, carry on, oh and on,
(05:54):
we won a game.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
The problem with this whole saga is that for the
most part, we the public have been left yessing what
was really going on behind the scenes. And the reason
became that we all became so invested in this thing
and eventually it became political. Was the narrative around story.
Speak to your average punter, and they made up their minds.
Dame Knowles is a bloody legend. She's a straight shooter.
(06:15):
She calls a spade a spade. She's hard and hearty
and gets results. It's not Ted Lee Wings, it's professional sport.
And that's why this story I think took off like
a rocket. High performance sport is about exactly that. If
you can't take the heat, you get out of the kitchen.
The public backed Dame Knowles because this looked like a
small group of players, notably excluding star Grace Wiki who
(06:38):
didn't like her coaching style. They got sour grapes. They
thought they were bigger than the boss. With Netball New
Zealand acting as an over zealous HR department, the whole
thing spoiled and went tits up. Anyway, she's back, Dame
Knowles is back, and what have we learned? Well, hewis
don't mind a little bit of argie bargie in sport
so long as you're winning.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, I was well summarize I think by Ryan there.
We quite often tend to forget about that whole let's when.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
The sportsball thing, if we can, it'd be great, use
your setting so hot off the bag.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Last week of Marcus getting stuck into Halloween again and
not being a fan of it, I think we.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Know where he stands on fireworks as well. I know
where I do.
Speaker 8 (07:27):
I was reading a fairly good article today about fireworks
and the question was will New Zealand ever banned fireworks?
I think there's a few things that are a play here.
I think no government these days wants to be seeing
as interfering because people don't.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Like that.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Nanny state da da day. You know, a lot of
people think that we should be able to make our
own decisions. We don't want governments over legislating. And there's
been a couple of instances that governments in their third
term or second term have interfered with what people want
to do. One was cats and dairies, I think, and
one was it one with light bulb and one with
(08:08):
shower heads.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
All you know.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
It was when government kind of overreached and people didn't
like it all. They thought it was unnecessary. And I
think that's what the government's attitude is towards fireworks. They
don't want to say, Okay, you can't do this because
you look like the fun police. I would have thought
probably they would have been banned by now, but they
haven't been. There's a couple of things at play. The
(08:31):
weather's been appalling, the wind is bad and it's dry,
and the country probably as a fire risk. So yeah,
it does seem to be the wrong time of their
But also too, we've got festivals changing. Dewali seems to
coincide with this time of the year, as even up
at a Dewali celebration, and anette friend was dancing at
Dewali celebration Danita over the weekend. So yeah, that's right
(08:53):
in the middle of this. So there's Dewali to think
about that. They like fireworks also, and then the other
thing is the whole pet angle.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
No, my dog seems pretty unfazed when people let off
fireworks in our neighborhood. It's weird, a pretty natural sense
of when another dog is walking by.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
He can be at the backyard of our house and
comes randing through the house. So you can just check
out the dog that's walking by. How he heard it,
smelt it, saw it. I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And yet things like fireworks. Well, I can be out
for a walk and there can be a cat sitting
on a mail box.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
If you walk past it, he just doesn't even notice it.
Oh yeah, fire which is a huge man stupid thing.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
News Talks It Bean podcast Roulette, Larry the Lamb, Matt Heath,
Tyler Adams.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Let's go. What have you got huge?
Speaker 9 (09:58):
And if you're an a Tigo fan like I am,
just business as usual, give us can give us a
sniff in the first half and then just dominate as
Canterbury yeap. But for me, the most exciting part of
that whole thing was Larry the Lamb. Do you see
Larry Lamb the mascot at halftime?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Now I didn't, but I've just watched the video. Oh
my god.
Speaker 9 (10:21):
Larry the Lamb did the length of the field in
ten seconds ten point three seconds.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
That's Olympic level, Olympic.
Speaker 9 (10:27):
Level speed and a mascot outfit. Does anyone know who
Larry the Lamb is? Is that the normal Larry of
the Lamb? Or did they put a ring in inside
Larry the Lamb? Is that a notable news? Someone that
can run that fast must be on the radar of
athletics in New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Surely did you see the trunks on Larry the Lamb?
I mean just when I'm watching the videos, I mean
that lamb can run, yeah, and then massive legs and.
Speaker 9 (10:48):
Blew a hammy at the end, although I was wondering
was that part of the whole performance. Someone out there
knows who Larry Lamber is, and maybe there's a normal
Larry of the Lamb that was swapped out, so someone
might know who Larry the Lamb normally is and know
that Larry the Lamb was sitting at home. Yeah, or
did anyone see Larry the Lamb putting the lamb head on?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
We've got to a massless guy. We need to find
out who there's valarees or it could be a shila
for a Wiener.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
No, that's a dude. That Larry Lamb was a dude. Yeah,
I could tell by those hemmis. Yeah, my goodness. The
pace on Larry of the Lamb.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
So what was at ten point three seconds? One hundred
meters I believe.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
So that's fast with a head like a lamb hit on.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, and like Canterbury, you know, giving a tago we taste.
He gave the other runners, the other mascots a we
taste before he just opened up at about me to
forty and then nobody had a chance.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Steely Dan used to be really fast. The County's Menico
mascot used to be really fast back in the day
but has dropped off in recent years. Yeah, and Leo
the Lion from Wellington Slow.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
It's an impressive ounding. I mean, when you've got a
lamb's hit on on on top of your head to
be able to run that, that is impressive.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (11:58):
So it was an interesting that. That was an interesting
situation sporting wise.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Again. Yes, I actually saw.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
That that mascot race, so I should have known what
it was about, and yet.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I just saw M plus T Larry the Lamb and
I thought, oh, let's be crazy. I suppose it was
a bit crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I am a bit crazy. Let's all be a bit
crazy again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
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