October 30, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) That's the Word I Heard/They Don't Make Drugs Like They Used To/Social Media Is Really Bad/True Cost of Kids/Bagging K-Mart
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk said Hello, my beautiful beanies,
and welcome to the Bean for Friday. First with yesterday's news,
I am Glen Harton and we are looking back at Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Kerry was talking about the drug driving laws. I think.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
There's surprises in store for her when you brought that up.
The social media band is firmly back on our agenda
after it's made a bit of headway in Australia, the
cost of raising kids at the afternoons going off and
Marcus on kmart. But before any of that. Free trade
(01:04):
it's a bit twenty ten's, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Free trade? I think we're over that now.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yesterday Westpac came out with some research which was actually
quite interesting. I was going to mention it earlier in
the program. They reckon our GDP wasn't actually that bad
in the Durne quarter, you know the blip, you know
the horror show. They revised down their estimate of a
zero point nine percent backwards read to just zero point
one percent backwards. I know, quite the revelation They reckon.
(01:31):
It all came down to an accounting glitch to do
with the closure of Marsden Point refinery in Northland. This
was several years ago. It's an interesting story interest dock
con Doon is they go and have a look of it,
go and have a look at it. In all of
these stories, though, there are two ideologies playing out. Are
we this free trade, open the door, globalist sort of
a country or are we the Winston Peters protections, don't
(01:55):
sell your milk brands, keep Marsden Point open for goodness sakes?
What kind of country are we? Are we New Zealand first,
because the more countries out there who are protecting themselves,
the great of the argument comes for us to actually
do the same, you know, and we are quite vulnerable
those trade routes that I spoke about, those supply chains.
(02:17):
When they break down. It's a bit like a computer,
great thing or a cell phone wonderful thing while it's working,
and once it goes to put your shick it. So
what sort of a country are we? We are kind
of facing and grappling with that question almost on a
weekly basis at the moment.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Mean, whether you agree with Ryan's view on that or not.
You can't fault him for the use of the word shickered.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I actually don't even know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
If I've heard that word before, but and yet I
knew exactly what he was on about. Note to self,
use the word shickered more in everyday conversation news talk
been right, Where are we at with the roadside drug
testing and all that?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Is that happening yet?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And also if it is, does that mean that if
you smoked a bit apart in the weekend that by Tuesday,
when you're not really under the influence of it, but
it will still be in your system.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
How does it all work?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
No? I know that when I was growing up in
the media, and I really was seventeen eighteen, nineteen years old,
a big reason I didn't use drugs that were that
were around, the cocaine and the cannabis, was that I
would lose my job. If I was found in possession
of any of these drugs, I would lose my job,
(03:39):
I would have a criminal offense against my name. So
the legalized drug booze became a drug of choice. So
I understand how having drug use criminalized can be useful
in stopping people starting but surely reducing demands a really
(04:00):
vital part of the process as well. People choosing not
to use alcohol and other drugs will have a much
bigger impact than the occasional high profile bust. And surely
then making drugs just another product, with all the health
and safety regulations around the production of these drugs, having
taxes applied at source, turning it into just another commodity
(04:25):
would be the most effective of all at emasculating the
gangs and the cartels.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And then immediately after that Kirie got schooled man on
how dangerous marijuana is. And it's basically there's some guy
who works that are rehab center or something, and you know,
talking about gateway drugs and how much stronger maria juana
(04:52):
is than it used to be. And it was open
a real, a real rabbit.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Hole there, you talk said.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Despite everybody saying that the social media band for under
sixteens wouldn't work in Australia, it seems like they're winning
in court anyway by strong arming the social media companies
into enforcing at Whether that has actually worked still remains
(05:24):
to be seen. But now of course it's been pulled
out of the proverbial biscuit tin here, Yes, yes, that's right.
It's a biscuit tin, and some of our laws come
out of the biscuit tin. I know, awesome, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
What I think we should take from this, though, is
that we should never believe the social media companies when
they say they can't stop kids using their products. What
I think you should do is kind of take the
approach of treating them a little bit like the tobacco
companies of old, completely untrustworthy, want to pedle their product,
do not want to stop peddling their product. In fact,
I think, to be honest, that there is a useful
parallel here with the way that we treat siggies and
(06:00):
how we should be treating social media companies. We ban
kids under the age of eighteen from buying ciggies, We
ban them from buying booze because we know it's bad
from them. When they're they can use it, hopefully they
use it wisely, but not when their little brains and
their little bodies are still developing. And I think the
same is true of social media. And yes, like the
ciggies and the booze, the kids are going to find
a way to get their get around it and get
(06:20):
their hands on it on in New Year's Eve when
they are sixteen, they're going to get completely drunk, but
hopefully it'll be a rare occasion, not an every weekend
type of thing. And in the case of banning the
booze and the cigies, we could have left that up
to the parents. We could have said, nah, it's okay.
You decide if your kids want to smoke and drink
under the age of eighteen, and parents should play a role, right,
But I think we all decided as a group that
(06:41):
this was worth banning. And I think we need to
do the same thing with social media. And I think
we need to do it mainly for the social media
companies because they are not prepared to do it themselves
until they're full stew just like in Australia.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I guess they're basically saying, look, do you have
to make money any which way you can? Given that
you're making quite a lot of money, how about we
just stop actually pillaging kids to get that money. Set Actually,
speaking of kids, how much does it cost to have them?
(07:22):
Because I'm not sure where this discussion came from on
the Afternoon Show, whether it was came out of the
figures that came out this week about our birth rate
and the population whether it's growing or not. Maybe that
was it.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
I don't know how much does it really cost to
raise a child in New Zealand today, and new analysis
puts a price tag on it for a first child
about three hundred and forty one thousand dollars before they
had eighteen, and additional children costing two hundred and sixty
one thousand dollars. Interestingly, while those numbers seem pretty high,
the cost it hasn't actually moved that much in past decades.
Yet more couples say that deciding to have fewer kids
(07:59):
because it costs too much.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Yeah, Rabs, I've had kids. They're not that very expensive,
you know, as long as you're not running the Instagram
family look and trying to have the perfect family. If
you if you run a house full of love, not
necessarily a house full of luxuries and it's been then
I think they're pretty cheap, and they get cheaper the
more you have, and whatever they cost is irrelevant because
(08:24):
what else are you going to spend your money on?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It?
Speaker 8 (08:26):
So I for your kids, you would not any parent
would work five jobs and happily do it to support
their kids.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I don't know what he's talking about. I have spent
my entire parenthood trying to get my kids to leave
so I don't have to pay for them anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
They don't get cheaper the more you have.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean, the cost per kid might come down a bit,
but it's still an extra expense. And as always said,
just never ever.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Have them news talk zen.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I suppose if you diport everything for them from Kmart,
like I do with my dog, that's a way to
bring the cost down that I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
You're supposed to keep your kids in a leash though.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
And fifty cents to get a supermarket trolley at Kmart
now and not to do he who buys so much
stuff at Camart they'd need a trolley because what do
you get occasionally a t shirt for one of the kids.
Is that what you get.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I've never had a.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Trolley at Kmart. I loathe the place.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So much.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
Tat Halloween, tat and everything, people just kind of rummage
through and fling everything around. No pride in the shop.
I don't know why I struggle with Kmart. I'll think
about that. And I don't mind the warehouse even though
(09:56):
they did that silly thing about the fireworks. Well it
wasn't silly.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was just.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Disingenuous, I think is the word I say.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'm not sure if Camart and the Warehouse, if they
both have advertisers with us here at Easney, than if
they are, I hope they would message there. Interesting how
he managed to incorporate a whole bunch of things that
he doesn't like and there but not just came out
but also fireworks and Halloween.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's sort of a good wrap up of Marcus this week.
There I think I love came out.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Because I do feel like it's a bit like what
the Weird House used to be, where you can get.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The things that will actually do the jobs to cheape.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Like dog leashes or child leases, depending on you.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I am glean hat. There has been news storks.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They've been I'll be back with more outrageous comments like
that with a week.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
In addition, on Monday, then used Talk Talks.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It been.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
For more from news Talk said b listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said, b
follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Used Talk said, be you Talk said Hello, my beautiful beanies,
and welcome to the Bean for Friday. First with yesterday's news,
I am Glen Harton and we are looking back at Thursday.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Kerry was talking about the drug driving laws. I think.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
There's surprises in store for her when you brought that up.
The social media band is firmly back on our agenda
after it's made a bit of headway in Australia, the
cost of raising kids at the afternoons going off and
Marcus on kmart. But before any of that. Free trade
(01:04):
it's a bit twenty ten's, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Free trade? I think we're over that now.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yesterday Westpac came out with some research which was actually
quite interesting. I was going to mention it earlier in
the program. They reckon our GDP wasn't actually that bad
in the Durne quarter, you know the blip, you know
the horror show. They revised down their estimate of a
zero point nine percent backwards read to just zero point
one percent backwards. I know, quite the revelation They reckon.
(01:31):
It all came down to an accounting glitch to do
with the closure of Marsden Point refinery in Northland. This
was several years ago. It's an interesting story interest dock
con Doon is they go and have a look of it,
go and have a look at it. In all of
these stories, though, there are two ideologies playing out. Are
we this free trade, open the door, globalist sort of
a country or are we the Winston Peters protections, don't
(01:55):
sell your milk brands, keep Marsden Point open for goodness sakes?
What kind of country are we? Are we New Zealand first,
because the more countries out there who are protecting themselves,
the great of the argument comes for us to actually
do the same, you know, and we are quite vulnerable
those trade routes that I spoke about, those supply chains.
(02:17):
When they break down. It's a bit like a computer,
great thing or a cell phone wonderful thing while it's working,
and once it goes to put your shick it. So
what sort of a country are we? We are kind
of facing and grappling with that question almost on a
weekly basis at the moment.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Mean, whether you agree with Ryan's view on that or not.
You can't fault him for the use of the word shickered.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I actually don't even know.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
If I've heard that word before, but and yet I
knew exactly what he was on about. Note to self,
use the word shickered more in everyday conversation news talk
been right, Where are we at with the roadside drug
testing and all that?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Is that happening yet?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
And also if it is, does that mean that if
you smoked a bit apart in the weekend that by Tuesday,
when you're not really under the influence of it, but
it will still be in your system.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
How does it all work?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
No? I know that when I was growing up in
the media, and I really was seventeen eighteen, nineteen years old,
a big reason I didn't use drugs that were that
were around, the cocaine and the cannabis, was that I
would lose my job. If I was found in possession
of any of these drugs, I would lose my job,
(03:39):
I would have a criminal offense against my name. So
the legalized drug booze became a drug of choice. So
I understand how having drug use criminalized can be useful
in stopping people starting but surely reducing demands a really
(04:00):
vital part of the process as well. People choosing not
to use alcohol and other drugs will have a much
bigger impact than the occasional high profile bust. And surely
then making drugs just another product, with all the health
and safety regulations around the production of these drugs, having
taxes applied at source, turning it into just another commodity
(04:25):
would be the most effective of all at emasculating the
gangs and the cartels.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And then immediately after that Kirie got schooled man on
how dangerous marijuana is. And it's basically there's some guy
who works that are rehab center or something, and you know,
talking about gateway drugs and how much stronger maria juana
(04:52):
is than it used to be. And it was open
a real, a real rabbit.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Hole there, you talk said.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Despite everybody saying that the social media band for under
sixteens wouldn't work in Australia, it seems like they're winning
in court anyway by strong arming the social media companies
into enforcing at Whether that has actually worked still remains
(05:24):
to be seen. But now of course it's been pulled
out of the proverbial biscuit tin here, Yes, yes, that's right.
It's a biscuit tin, and some of our laws come
out of the biscuit tin. I know, awesome, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
What I think we should take from this, though, is
that we should never believe the social media companies when
they say they can't stop kids using their products. What
I think you should do is kind of take the
approach of treating them a little bit like the tobacco
companies of old, completely untrustworthy, want to pedle their product,
do not want to stop peddling their product. In fact,
I think, to be honest, that there is a useful
parallel here with the way that we treat siggies and
(06:00):
how we should be treating social media companies. We ban
kids under the age of eighteen from buying ciggies, We
ban them from buying booze because we know it's bad
from them. When they're they can use it, hopefully they
use it wisely, but not when their little brains and
their little bodies are still developing. And I think the
same is true of social media. And yes, like the
ciggies and the booze, the kids are going to find
a way to get their get around it and get
(06:20):
their hands on it on in New Year's Eve when
they are sixteen, they're going to get completely drunk, but
hopefully it'll be a rare occasion, not an every weekend
type of thing. And in the case of banning the
booze and the cigies, we could have left that up
to the parents. We could have said, nah, it's okay.
You decide if your kids want to smoke and drink
under the age of eighteen, and parents should play a role, right,
But I think we all decided as a group that
(06:41):
this was worth banning. And I think we need to
do the same thing with social media. And I think
we need to do it mainly for the social media
companies because they are not prepared to do it themselves
until they're full stew just like in Australia.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, I guess they're basically saying, look, do you have
to make money any which way you can? Given that
you're making quite a lot of money, how about we
just stop actually pillaging kids to get that money. Set Actually,
speaking of kids, how much does it cost to have them?
(07:22):
Because I'm not sure where this discussion came from on
the Afternoon Show, whether it was came out of the
figures that came out this week about our birth rate
and the population whether it's growing or not. Maybe that
was it.
Speaker 7 (07:37):
I don't know how much does it really cost to
raise a child in New Zealand today, and new analysis
puts a price tag on it for a first child
about three hundred and forty one thousand dollars before they
had eighteen, and additional children costing two hundred and sixty
one thousand dollars. Interestingly, while those numbers seem pretty high,
the cost it hasn't actually moved that much in past decades.
Yet more couples say that deciding to have fewer kids
(07:59):
because it costs too much.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
Yeah, Rabs, I've had kids. They're not that very expensive,
you know, as long as you're not running the Instagram
family look and trying to have the perfect family. If
you if you run a house full of love, not
necessarily a house full of luxuries and it's been then
I think they're pretty cheap, and they get cheaper the
more you have, and whatever they cost is irrelevant because
(08:24):
what else are you going to spend your money on?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It?
Speaker 8 (08:26):
So I for your kids, you would not any parent
would work five jobs and happily do it to support
their kids.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I don't know what he's talking about. I have spent
my entire parenthood trying to get my kids to leave
so I don't have to pay for them anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
They don't get cheaper the more you have.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I mean, the cost per kid might come down a bit,
but it's still an extra expense. And as always said,
just never ever.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Have them news talk zen.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I suppose if you diport everything for them from Kmart,
like I do with my dog, that's a way to
bring the cost down that I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
You're supposed to keep your kids in a leash though.
Speaker 9 (09:11):
And fifty cents to get a supermarket trolley at Kmart
now and not to do he who buys so much
stuff at Camart they'd need a trolley because what do
you get occasionally a t shirt for one of the kids.
Is that what you get.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I've never had a.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
Trolley at Kmart. I loathe the place.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So much.
Speaker 9 (09:33):
Tat Halloween, tat and everything, people just kind of rummage
through and fling everything around. No pride in the shop.
I don't know why I struggle with Kmart. I'll think
about that. And I don't mind the warehouse even though
(09:56):
they did that silly thing about the fireworks. Well it
wasn't silly.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It was just.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Disingenuous, I think is the word I say.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'm not sure if Camart and the Warehouse, if they
both have advertisers with us here at Easney, than if
they are, I hope they would message there. Interesting how
he managed to incorporate a whole bunch of things that
he doesn't like and there but not just came out
but also fireworks and Halloween.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's sort of a good wrap up of Marcus this week.
There I think I love came out.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Because I do feel like it's a bit like what
the Weird House used to be, where you can get.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
The things that will actually do the jobs to cheape.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Like dog leashes or child leases, depending on you.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I am glean hat. There has been news storks.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
They've been I'll be back with more outrageous comments like
that with a week.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
In addition, on Monday, then used Talk Talks.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
It been.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
For more from news Talk said b listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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