November 10, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Monday on Newstalk ZB) They Probably Won't Even Notice/Even Worse Drugs On the Way/So, This Is Probably the End Times/Sleeping Through Your Shift
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday. We need to talk drugs.
Do you want some drugs as particularly meth and maybe
even ventanal. I'm not offering them to you. I'm just
saying we're going to talk about them. Ryan is keeping
(00:45):
a careful watch on this horrendous fire in Tongariro National Park,
and Marcus is worried he's falling asleep. But before any
of that, the Murray Party has just going from strength
to strength at the moment, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
This is just a bunch of people who can't get
on with each other and can't, like normal adults, find
a way to sort out differences. To be fair, did
we expect an anything else? I mean, this is the
party of John Thalmerheada. This is the man who blew
up his own career with the front Bumps comment, and
then blew up his radio career with the Roastbusters comment,
and then has managed to basically blow up his relationship
with plenty of what he calls the white media, but
(01:22):
just being obnoxious the whole time. So is it really
a surprise that the most obnoxious person in politics at
the moment has brought together a crew of people who
who can't work together and has created a working environment
which then blows up through a lack of emotional maturity. Now,
given all of that John talmerheadair, lack of emotional maturity,
all of it, I think there's probably more to come
(01:43):
on this. Maybe there's some legal action, maybe there are
some by elections, maybe there's some more defections. But definitely
and almost certainly there's going to be more warfare on
social media, don't you think. And of all the people
that this hurts the most, Maori Party, Maori Party voters, whatever,
it's Labor, because can Labour really convince voters that this
tantrum prone outfit can be relied on to be in
(02:04):
government if they can't even be relied on just to
keep their own party together.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I do feel a bit like with the Manori Party
that they've come to this point where it's a lot
like the Biden presidency that if we could have just
shut him in a room and made him think that
he was still president. But in the meantime taken it often,
you know, things might have turned out better. And I
(02:29):
wonder if we could do the same with the Maori Party,
if we can just lead them to themselves, they can
all do what they do, argue with each other and
then hope that it just doesn't have any effect on
the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
News talk been right.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So they've been pouring through our waste water and they
found a lot of meth and the government's taking action.
Don't worry, they'll fix it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So. The recommendations come from advice received from an expert
Ministerial Advisory Group that was tasked with advising on how
New Zealand security agencies could better respond to organized crime
and work together to do so. So. The recommendations such
as the maritime patrols, the greater past to go after
the proceeds of crime, the electronic surveillance come from the
(03:15):
Ministerial Advisory Group's report. Other suggestions weren't picked up on.
A Minister of organized crime, for example, was recommended to
coordinate the thirteen agencies that will be charged with battling
the cartels it's a start, It's I mean, I would
almost say that the horse has bolted, that corridor is
(03:37):
well established. I don't know how you would go about
patrolling the many, many islands and atolls of the South Pacific,
and that the drug smugglers saw that and thought brilliant.
You're never going to be able to police them. You never.
If you've seen the containers at the Port of totong
or or the Port of Auckland, You're never going to
(03:59):
be able to inspect every single one of those containers.
Not in a billion years. I would have thought the
best way would be to reduce demand. But why why
why why now? When you know what's happened to them,
(04:20):
to people who thought they could try it and control
it and just use it as a bit of harmless fun.
Why would you put money into the pockets of these people?
What is so awful about your life that you're willing
to dance with the devil?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Same reason you'd buy the burger or the chips, or
the morobar or the canna cake. We do a lot
of stuff that we know isn't good.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
For us, we still do it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Us talk side not meant and Tyler though those that
good clean boys at their shot by what's been found
in our pooh water.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
It's powerful stuff, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
So seven hundred and thirty two kg's up to one
four hundred and thirty four kgs.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Did you say, Yep, that's a massive booster methmee fetamine
use it is?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
It is, But you know, you know cag's and potatoes
don't do that kind of damage to that. So that's
powerful stuff, yeah, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So?
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yeah? Do you think that the government's got this right,
the right balance of punishment and enforcement and rehabilitation. But
I was thinking about this as well, So we want
to talk about that generally speaking, that the meth problem
and this response to it, but also myth sort of
snuck up on us.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Didn't it.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I mean it had been around and then about was
it would it be twenty twenty odd years ago?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
It just started to really kick off and we started
calling it p and it started calling problems causing problems.
But fentanyl is coming, it is. Do we need to
try and get ahead of it before before that drug
starts messing us up on a mass scale? I know
it's on, it's here, and it's been mixed in other
drugs right now, but it is missing the rest of
(06:04):
the world right up right now if you see what's
happening in Canada and stuff. So whilst we're doing dealing
with this p issue, do we need to also be
starting to get things in place to deal with the
inevitable fentanel issue.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yes, we've got to be smarter.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Just look up the Fenti folding and the zombies that
are all over the streets of Canada at the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's horrific, isn't it. I'm not laughing because I think
it's funny.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
It's just crazy in California and such in the States.
It's shocking what fentanyl will do.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's a bit hard with the Canadian thing, isn't it,
Because I've had a few Canadians in my time, and
I wasn't quite sure if they were high or not.
Some of them sort of have that kind of vibe
about them, So you have to be a bit careful
not to judge.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Just saying city.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Right, I'm not sure how a desert catches fire, but
it has and it's serious.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Tom.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
That is a national park for a reason. It's a stunning,
beautiful part of this country. And the fact that's currently
on fire is obviously worrying, not just because it's a
fire and you want fiers to be put out, but
also because of where it's happening. It will pay who
Central North Island I've been taking a hammering lately. You'll
know this. Mills factories, forestry, tourism has been affected. We've
(07:13):
had the alpine lifts debarcle. The mountain's kind of been
battling for a week while all this after COVID and
now you potentially putting summer bookings at risk with a
decent chunk of the park now raging fire. Businesses can
only take so much before something breaks, as it has
for many since the heady days of free government money
(07:35):
during the pandemic. Today we're reporting one hundred and fifteen
percent increase in insolvent seasons twenty twenty two. The problem
is not just inflation eating into consumer spending and confidence
and all that stuff, but also the sequence of the shocks.
You know, it's kind of one thing after another and
then those on the edge get pushed off. The economy
generally has had inflation, recession, you know, weather events, tariffs,
(08:01):
all this stuff happening and Basically, what I think this
tells us is that shocks can come at any time,
any place, not necessary really, with a nice six or
seven good years between them. What is next?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Is it the AI bubble boosting as we've been hearing
about for the last couple of months. Is it another war?
Is it an oil shock? Is it another fire ripping
through a tourist hotspot? Take your pick. But the lesson
I think the message is, don't expect that it won't
come soon, or that it won't come tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So this is the end times. What he's saying, we
might have head a bit longer. Okay, I don't know
why I thought that news talk has it been if
you're lucky, you'll just sleep through it.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Though I've never fallen asleep on radio before. But Pete Song,
Pete's cool about about about there's such a complicated story
about parking at Burg that terrible feeling. And I went
to sleep and I was almost you know, when you're sleep,
when you're dreaming about something, you think, oh, and you
(09:08):
know what's going on? You're not sure? And I wake
up and I thought, jeepest, creepers. It was absolutely terrifying
and I've never done that before, but that was That's
what a night of parking story did to me. So yeah, Pete,
you've done something else has done to me. It was unbelievable.
It didn't you couldn't hear it. Good your Dan. It
wasn't storing, was I I was asleep? Yeah, it just
(09:31):
went and I reckon. It would have been two or
three seconds. So I apologize for that. Pete. I apologize
for your story because you kind enough to bring up
and tell us your story. It was unprofessional me as
a host to fall asleep during a call. And the
only other broadcast that's fallen asleep was Bruce Russell, who
(09:53):
felt and he didn't like to talk about it either.
He fell asleep took listening to someone.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And I don't think I've ever fallen asleep while while
on air, but I have been extremely tired. I just
come close. I've definitely almost fallen asleep while working at home,
sitting at the desk, typing and you know, trying to
(10:19):
type and think about what to type next, and then nah,
I'm just going to go to bed. It's not easy
to get into the map in the middle of the
night to go to work. Oh, your life so difficult,
isn't it. In the work for six hours a day,
get home in the middle of the morning, not even
(10:39):
really doing a real job. True, and I can't even
stay awake for it. I am a glen hat. The
more you talk about it, the more tired you feel too.
So it's like it's like talking about being hungry. And
now that I've mentioned that, I am I'll see you back.
I've tried back here again to.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Month us talking. For more from news Talk said B.
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You're listening to a podcast from news Talk said b
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Tuesday.
First of yesterday's news. I am Glen Hart, and we
are looking back at Monday. We need to talk drugs.
Do you want some drugs as particularly meth and maybe
even ventanal. I'm not offering them to you. I'm just
saying we're going to talk about them. Ryan is keeping
(00:45):
a careful watch on this horrendous fire in Tongariro National Park,
and Marcus is worried he's falling asleep. But before any
of that, the Murray Party has just going from strength
to strength at the moment, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
This is just a bunch of people who can't get
on with each other and can't, like normal adults, find
a way to sort out differences. To be fair, did
we expect an anything else? I mean, this is the
party of John Thalmerheada. This is the man who blew
up his own career with the front Bumps comment, and
then blew up his radio career with the Roastbusters comment,
and then has managed to basically blow up his relationship
with plenty of what he calls the white media, but
(01:22):
just being obnoxious the whole time. So is it really
a surprise that the most obnoxious person in politics at
the moment has brought together a crew of people who
who can't work together and has created a working environment
which then blows up through a lack of emotional maturity. Now,
given all of that John talmerheadair, lack of emotional maturity,
all of it, I think there's probably more to come
(01:43):
on this. Maybe there's some legal action, maybe there are
some by elections, maybe there's some more defections. But definitely
and almost certainly there's going to be more warfare on
social media, don't you think. And of all the people
that this hurts the most, Maori Party, Maori Party voters, whatever,
it's Labor, because can Labour really convince voters that this
tantrum prone outfit can be relied on to be in
(02:04):
government if they can't even be relied on just to
keep their own party together.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I do feel a bit like with the Manori Party
that they've come to this point where it's a lot
like the Biden presidency that if we could have just
shut him in a room and made him think that
he was still president. But in the meantime taken it often,
you know, things might have turned out better. And I
(02:29):
wonder if we could do the same with the Maori Party,
if we can just lead them to themselves, they can
all do what they do, argue with each other and
then hope that it just doesn't have any effect on
the rest of us.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
News talk been right.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So they've been pouring through our waste water and they
found a lot of meth and the government's taking action.
Don't worry, they'll fix it.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So. The recommendations come from advice received from an expert
Ministerial Advisory Group that was tasked with advising on how
New Zealand security agencies could better respond to organized crime
and work together to do so. So. The recommendations such
as the maritime patrols, the greater past to go after
the proceeds of crime, the electronic surveillance come from the
(03:15):
Ministerial Advisory Group's report. Other suggestions weren't picked up on.
A Minister of organized crime, for example, was recommended to
coordinate the thirteen agencies that will be charged with battling
the cartels it's a start, It's I mean, I would
almost say that the horse has bolted, that corridor is
(03:37):
well established. I don't know how you would go about
patrolling the many, many islands and atolls of the South Pacific,
and that the drug smugglers saw that and thought brilliant.
You're never going to be able to police them. You never.
If you've seen the containers at the Port of totong
or or the Port of Auckland, You're never going to
(03:59):
be able to inspect every single one of those containers.
Not in a billion years. I would have thought the
best way would be to reduce demand. But why why
why why now? When you know what's happened to them,
(04:20):
to people who thought they could try it and control
it and just use it as a bit of harmless fun.
Why would you put money into the pockets of these people?
What is so awful about your life that you're willing
to dance with the devil?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Same reason you'd buy the burger or the chips, or
the morobar or the canna cake. We do a lot
of stuff that we know isn't good.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
For us, we still do it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Us talk side not meant and Tyler though those that
good clean boys at their shot by what's been found
in our pooh water.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
It's powerful stuff, isn't it?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
So seven hundred and thirty two kg's up to one
four hundred and thirty four kgs.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Did you say, Yep, that's a massive booster methmee fetamine
use it is?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
It is, But you know, you know cag's and potatoes
don't do that kind of damage to that. So that's
powerful stuff, yeah, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So?
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yeah? Do you think that the government's got this right,
the right balance of punishment and enforcement and rehabilitation. But
I was thinking about this as well, So we want
to talk about that generally speaking, that the meth problem
and this response to it, but also myth sort of
snuck up on us.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Didn't it.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I mean it had been around and then about was
it would it be twenty twenty odd years ago?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
It just started to really kick off and we started
calling it p and it started calling problems causing problems.
But fentanyl is coming, it is. Do we need to
try and get ahead of it before before that drug
starts messing us up on a mass scale? I know
it's on, it's here, and it's been mixed in other
drugs right now, but it is missing the rest of
(06:04):
the world right up right now if you see what's
happening in Canada and stuff. So whilst we're doing dealing
with this p issue, do we need to also be
starting to get things in place to deal with the
inevitable fentanel issue.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Yes, we've got to be smarter.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Just look up the Fenti folding and the zombies that
are all over the streets of Canada at the moment.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
It's horrific, isn't it. I'm not laughing because I think
it's funny.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
It's just crazy in California and such in the States.
It's shocking what fentanyl will do.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
It's a bit hard with the Canadian thing, isn't it,
Because I've had a few Canadians in my time, and
I wasn't quite sure if they were high or not.
Some of them sort of have that kind of vibe
about them, So you have to be a bit careful
not to judge.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Just saying city.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Right, I'm not sure how a desert catches fire, but
it has and it's serious.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Tom.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
That is a national park for a reason. It's a stunning,
beautiful part of this country. And the fact that's currently
on fire is obviously worrying, not just because it's a
fire and you want fiers to be put out, but
also because of where it's happening. It will pay who
Central North Island I've been taking a hammering lately. You'll
know this. Mills factories, forestry, tourism has been affected. We've
(07:13):
had the alpine lifts debarcle. The mountain's kind of been
battling for a week while all this after COVID and
now you potentially putting summer bookings at risk with a
decent chunk of the park now raging fire. Businesses can
only take so much before something breaks, as it has
for many since the heady days of free government money
(07:35):
during the pandemic. Today we're reporting one hundred and fifteen
percent increase in insolvent seasons twenty twenty two. The problem
is not just inflation eating into consumer spending and confidence
and all that stuff, but also the sequence of the shocks.
You know, it's kind of one thing after another and
then those on the edge get pushed off. The economy
generally has had inflation, recession, you know, weather events, tariffs,
(08:01):
all this stuff happening and Basically, what I think this
tells us is that shocks can come at any time,
any place, not necessary really, with a nice six or
seven good years between them. What is next?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Is it the AI bubble boosting as we've been hearing
about for the last couple of months. Is it another war?
Is it an oil shock? Is it another fire ripping
through a tourist hotspot? Take your pick. But the lesson
I think the message is, don't expect that it won't
come soon, or that it won't come tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
So this is the end times. What he's saying, we
might have head a bit longer. Okay, I don't know
why I thought that news talk has it been if
you're lucky, you'll just sleep through it.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Though I've never fallen asleep on radio before. But Pete Song,
Pete's cool about about about there's such a complicated story
about parking at Burg that terrible feeling. And I went
to sleep and I was almost you know, when you're sleep,
when you're dreaming about something, you think, oh, and you
(09:08):
know what's going on? You're not sure? And I wake
up and I thought, jeepest, creepers. It was absolutely terrifying
and I've never done that before, but that was That's
what a night of parking story did to me. So yeah, Pete,
you've done something else has done to me. It was unbelievable.
It didn't you couldn't hear it. Good your Dan. It
wasn't storing, was I I was asleep? Yeah, it just
(09:31):
went and I reckon. It would have been two or
three seconds. So I apologize for that. Pete. I apologize
for your story because you kind enough to bring up
and tell us your story. It was unprofessional me as
a host to fall asleep during a call. And the
only other broadcast that's fallen asleep was Bruce Russell, who
(09:53):
felt and he didn't like to talk about it either.
He fell asleep took listening to someone.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And I don't think I've ever fallen asleep while while
on air, but I have been extremely tired. I just
come close. I've definitely almost fallen asleep while working at home,
sitting at the desk, typing and you know, trying to
(10:19):
type and think about what to type next, and then nah,
I'm just going to go to bed. It's not easy
to get into the map in the middle of the
night to go to work. Oh, your life so difficult,
isn't it. In the work for six hours a day,
get home in the middle of the morning, not even
(10:39):
really doing a real job. True, and I can't even
stay awake for it. I am a glen hat. The
more you talk about it, the more tired you feel too.
So it's like it's like talking about being hungry. And
now that I've mentioned that, I am I'll see you back.
I've tried back here again to.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
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