November 30, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from the weekend on Newstalk ZB) Now They're Poisoning the Kids/More Clinics? Or Just More Docs?/The Mystery of Campbell/One Intense Movie
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful Beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Week in edition first of yesterday's News. I am Glenn Hart.
We're looking back at both Sunday and Saturday, two days
for the price of one. You can't answer better than that.
So Labor's Help Policy rolling out how policy did offer
(00:45):
low interest loans to GPS to start business. It's very complicated,
isn't it. Michael Campbell documentary last night. He previewed it yesterday.
And then we've got this Nuremberg movie. We're going to
hear from a couple of people involved with it, including
Russell Crowe. Before any of that, though probably not ideal
(01:09):
to be selling toys that are full of asbesto.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So they bought a children's product that should have been
ideal for creative learning from reputable retailers with an entirely
reasonable expectation that it would be safe. And now that
this has been discovered, it's not like they can just
ignore it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Schools that are testing instead of just quietly getting rid
of the products. I mean clearly they are doing the
right thing, even if the risk is super low. What
parent would allow their child to be taught in a
classroom that was testing positive for asbestos? What teacher would
teach in it? In my view, it would be a
(01:54):
great injustice if the schools that are doing the right
thing and handling this crisis ended up significantly out of pocket.
I mean, surely our consumer guarantee and product safety laws,
retailers can't simply abdicate all responsibility and palm off the
affected schools to distant manufacturers, And even if legally they can,
(02:19):
surely there is a moral responsibility to do the right thing.
One obvious measure that I think would help the affected
schools is a collective legal effort so that they are
not all fighting for redress or for compensation and isolation.
It's the sort of thing you would reasonably expect the
Ministry of Education to help with in coordinating once the
(02:40):
test results are confirmed everywhere. I think at the moment
we're what three weeks in, There's no telling where this
whole thing is going to end up. But while at
least their classrooms will be safe, if schools end up
footing the bill for all of the testing, all of
the cleanup of a product they reasonably trusted. At the
(03:03):
end of the day, it'll be our kids who pay
the price.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think that about wraps it up for school, doesn't it.
I mean, if you ever needed any more reason not
to go, the fact that it might give you a
spit class poisoning. I mean, come on, guys, never really.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Been a fan news talk has been right.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So labor wants to give low interest loans to doctors
to what are they doing exactly? Doctors want to open
their own clinans? Do they? Anyway, Let's hear from a
doctor and see if this is going to solve all
their health problem.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think it's a really positive acknowledgment that in order
to better serve the health system, you need a function
in primary care, and to do that you need the
doctors to come into it. So this is a step
in the right direction to.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That an acknowledgment that doesn't sound like you're calling it
a solution.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's part of the solutions we need to We need
to train more doctors. We know that there's been some
steps by the current government to do that. But in
order to attract those into training. We need to make
the profession that are rewarding more easily accessible. We need
to show people that they've got a place in business,
that the governments and at both sides of this political
spectrum will believe in the model of care and therefore
(04:29):
give it some security so people can make a decision
to make it their business and their livelihood and set
up in their communities.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
How short are we of GPS? If you could click
your fingers, how many more would you summon up?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Ah? Absolutely, immediately three hundred. In reality, it's probably near
a six hundred. If we do this extra, these extra consults,
as per the labor thing, it will be over that
over six hundred we'd need.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I'm a bit confused. Do we need more clinics
or more doctors? Because can't you just have a bigger
clinic with more doctors. I mean, you don't really care
about the clinic, do you? You just want to see
a doctor? Yeah, I would have thought anyway, Good luck everyone,
you talk right. So, there was a Michael Campbell documentary
(05:14):
last night. If we go back a little bit further,
in the afternoon, there was a Michael Campbell on with
Jason Pine talking about the documentary that was about to
go to here later. I feel like I could have
done that lest clumsily.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Can you believe it's been twenty years since you'll win
at the US Open? No time has flown past, you know,
over the last twenty years, And when I look back
and reminisce about those times, it's always obviously wonderful memories
of mine and something I'll never forgets. It was an
(05:50):
incredible ride. But this documentary we'll explain to people the
pathway to my success. It wasn't about that particular day
that's end result, but it's the path and the journey
I took to get there, a lot of struggles and
a lot of setbacks in my time and to the
(06:11):
victories victories I've had as a professional golfer, and it's
I mean, I really enjoyed making it. It made me
kind of really think about how I got there in
a very detailed way, you know, going from my first coach,
my dad when I was six years old, to Dennis Sutherland,
(06:33):
who unfortunately passed away this recently. My first coach, really
real coach. Then Mel Tongue. He took me under his wing.
He looked after me from the age of sixteen onwards
about twenty three to twenty four, Jonathan Yalwood. You know,
all these people made it possible.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's a funny on golf, isn't it how somebody can
consider come from nowhere and win a tournament and then
perhaps not go on to that much further greatness. But
it's quite the enigma, isn't it. Michael Campbell? Yeah? Anyway, Right,
(07:14):
So we've got a new movie out, Nuremberg. Should we
talk to the writer and director or should we talk
to the star? This guy writer and director fits man.
We had a lot of big names on the stake
Another week in glau his James Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Nuremberg is an extraordinary film. It is affecting and it
feels timely. What is it about this story that you
wanted to tell?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I mean so many things?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
You know, it was I first came to it thirteen
years ago and I read a book proposal by a
guy named Jack L. High, who ended up writing The
Nazi and the Psychiatrist, which was the book the film
was based on. But it was only five or six
pages and it sort of talked about the psychiatrist Douglas Kelly,
who ROMI Malick plays being called in at the end
of World War Two to go and evaluate the surviving
(08:08):
see High Command, including Herman Gerring, who Russell Crowe plays,
And it was so it was so fascinating to me
because it was a period of time I thought I
knew a lot about I studied it in school, like
we all sort of do in the States, and yet
I knew nothing about this. I didn't know there were
psychiatrists in the US Army in World War Two. I
didn't know that this whole situation had transpired. I didn't
(08:31):
know the US Army and many of the other countries
had no interest in putting the trials on in the
first place and had to be talked into it. So
it just was such an incredible story that really happened.
It was the fastest I ever said yes to anything
in my life.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I felt exactly
the same way. And then I felt like I had
a sort of an understanding, you know, a kind of broad,
if somewhat loose, understanding of the history. I knew about
the trials, I knew about the process and establishing the court,
but I had absolutely no idea about this character Douglas Kelly,
who kind of fulfilled in extraordinary role.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So when I first started here at News Talk to
be as technical director for the Poor Holmes Breakfast, I
used to wear these wireless headphones get sort of clipped
over my ears. I don't know why I did. There
just a phase I was going through, I think, anyway,
(09:30):
and then Poul Holmes always to tell me I look
like somebody at the Nuremberg trials. So like I was
listening to them, you know, the testimony being translated, the
offensive V I mean, I know it's not really relevant
(09:52):
to anything.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I just love.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
News Talks.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It been any Wait, let's let's get to the Russel craze,
because you've been waiting for the whole podcast to hear
from them.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now, I want to talk about this film of yours.
What did you learn about the man you played?
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Well, that's a gigantic questions. So this interview is going
to be going for two weeks now. The point the
thing that you might not know in this particular instance,
you know, because what you're always looking for as an
actor when you're signing on to do something, that there's
going to be enough time for you to prep properly
you know, traditional rehearsals are a thing of the past.
(10:30):
Production companies just won't pay for that anymore. So you
have to find those moments of what I call quiet
contemplation where you get to really think through and learn
about what you're doing. And I signed on to do
Nuremberg in twenty nineteen. I was doing the TV show
The Loudest Voice in New York. I was playing Roger
Ailes and the script came and I read it and
(10:51):
I just responded to it straight away, and I started,
as I have a habit of doing, I start making
decisions very quickly, you know, about what I'm going to do,
what I'm going to look like, how it's going to feel,
what it will you know, blah blah blah, and thinking
that we would be making the film within six or
seven months. But we didn't actually start shooting the film
until so I had five years of that quiet contemplation.
(11:12):
And there is a lot to learn about Home And
because he was a massive figure in history way before
we in the West have kind of knew about him,
you know, in Allied countries, because he was a genuine
war hero from the First World War.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
He's pretty intense, doesn't he Russell Crowe.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, he's intense.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I I'm not. I've sort of I've sort of spent
my entire life trying to not be intense about anything anyway.
I bet I will be.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Back here again tomorrow, in tense or not.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
With more or us see then Hu's talking talkings it been.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
For more from News Talk, said b. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
Used Talk sid B Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful Beanies, and welcome to the bean the
Week in edition first of yesterday's News. I am Glenn Hart.
We're looking back at both Sunday and Saturday, two days
for the price of one. You can't answer better than that.
So Labor's Help Policy rolling out how policy did offer
(00:45):
low interest loans to GPS to start business. It's very complicated,
isn't it. Michael Campbell documentary last night. He previewed it yesterday.
And then we've got this Nuremberg movie. We're going to
hear from a couple of people involved with it, including
Russell Crowe. Before any of that, though probably not ideal
(01:09):
to be selling toys that are full of asbesto.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
So they bought a children's product that should have been
ideal for creative learning from reputable retailers with an entirely
reasonable expectation that it would be safe. And now that
this has been discovered, it's not like they can just
ignore it.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Schools that are testing instead of just quietly getting rid
of the products. I mean clearly they are doing the
right thing, even if the risk is super low. What
parent would allow their child to be taught in a
classroom that was testing positive for asbestos? What teacher would
teach in it? In my view, it would be a
(01:54):
great injustice if the schools that are doing the right
thing and handling this crisis ended up significantly out of pocket.
I mean, surely our consumer guarantee and product safety laws,
retailers can't simply abdicate all responsibility and palm off the
affected schools to distant manufacturers, And even if legally they can,
(02:19):
surely there is a moral responsibility to do the right thing.
One obvious measure that I think would help the affected
schools is a collective legal effort so that they are
not all fighting for redress or for compensation and isolation.
It's the sort of thing you would reasonably expect the
Ministry of Education to help with in coordinating once the
(02:40):
test results are confirmed everywhere. I think at the moment
we're what three weeks in, There's no telling where this
whole thing is going to end up. But while at
least their classrooms will be safe, if schools end up
footing the bill for all of the testing, all of
the cleanup of a product they reasonably trusted. At the
(03:03):
end of the day, it'll be our kids who pay
the price.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think that about wraps it up for school, doesn't it.
I mean, if you ever needed any more reason not
to go, the fact that it might give you a
spit class poisoning. I mean, come on, guys, never really.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Been a fan news talk has been right.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So labor wants to give low interest loans to doctors
to what are they doing exactly? Doctors want to open
their own clinans? Do they? Anyway, Let's hear from a
doctor and see if this is going to solve all
their health problem.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
What do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think it's a really positive acknowledgment that in order
to better serve the health system, you need a function
in primary care, and to do that you need the
doctors to come into it. So this is a step
in the right direction to.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
That an acknowledgment that doesn't sound like you're calling it
a solution.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's part of the solutions we need to We need
to train more doctors. We know that there's been some
steps by the current government to do that. But in
order to attract those into training. We need to make
the profession that are rewarding more easily accessible. We need
to show people that they've got a place in business,
that the governments and at both sides of this political
spectrum will believe in the model of care and therefore
(04:29):
give it some security so people can make a decision
to make it their business and their livelihood and set
up in their communities.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
How short are we of GPS? If you could click
your fingers, how many more would you summon up?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Ah? Absolutely, immediately three hundred. In reality, it's probably near
a six hundred. If we do this extra, these extra consults,
as per the labor thing, it will be over that
over six hundred we'd need.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, I'm a bit confused. Do we need more clinics
or more doctors? Because can't you just have a bigger
clinic with more doctors. I mean, you don't really care
about the clinic, do you? You just want to see
a doctor? Yeah, I would have thought anyway, Good luck everyone,
you talk right. So, there was a Michael Campbell documentary
(05:14):
last night. If we go back a little bit further,
in the afternoon, there was a Michael Campbell on with
Jason Pine talking about the documentary that was about to
go to here later. I feel like I could have
done that lest clumsily.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Can you believe it's been twenty years since you'll win
at the US Open? No time has flown past, you know,
over the last twenty years, And when I look back
and reminisce about those times, it's always obviously wonderful memories
of mine and something I'll never forgets. It was an
(05:50):
incredible ride. But this documentary we'll explain to people the
pathway to my success. It wasn't about that particular day
that's end result, but it's the path and the journey
I took to get there, a lot of struggles and
a lot of setbacks in my time and to the
(06:11):
victories victories I've had as a professional golfer, and it's
I mean, I really enjoyed making it. It made me
kind of really think about how I got there in
a very detailed way, you know, going from my first coach,
my dad when I was six years old, to Dennis Sutherland,
(06:33):
who unfortunately passed away this recently. My first coach, really
real coach. Then Mel Tongue. He took me under his wing.
He looked after me from the age of sixteen onwards
about twenty three to twenty four, Jonathan Yalwood. You know,
all these people made it possible.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's a funny on golf, isn't it how somebody can
consider come from nowhere and win a tournament and then
perhaps not go on to that much further greatness. But
it's quite the enigma, isn't it. Michael Campbell? Yeah? Anyway, Right,
(07:14):
So we've got a new movie out, Nuremberg. Should we
talk to the writer and director or should we talk
to the star? This guy writer and director fits man.
We had a lot of big names on the stake
Another week in glau his James Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Nuremberg is an extraordinary film. It is affecting and it
feels timely. What is it about this story that you
wanted to tell?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I mean so many things?
Speaker 5 (07:45):
You know, it was I first came to it thirteen
years ago and I read a book proposal by a
guy named Jack L. High, who ended up writing The
Nazi and the Psychiatrist, which was the book the film
was based on. But it was only five or six
pages and it sort of talked about the psychiatrist Douglas Kelly,
who ROMI Malick plays being called in at the end
of World War Two to go and evaluate the surviving
(08:08):
see High Command, including Herman Gerring, who Russell Crowe plays,
And it was so it was so fascinating to me
because it was a period of time I thought I
knew a lot about I studied it in school, like
we all sort of do in the States, and yet
I knew nothing about this. I didn't know there were
psychiatrists in the US Army in World War Two. I
didn't know that this whole situation had transpired. I didn't
(08:31):
know the US Army and many of the other countries
had no interest in putting the trials on in the
first place and had to be talked into it. So
it just was such an incredible story that really happened.
It was the fastest I ever said yes to anything
in my life.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I felt exactly
the same way. And then I felt like I had
a sort of an understanding, you know, a kind of broad,
if somewhat loose, understanding of the history. I knew about
the trials, I knew about the process and establishing the court,
but I had absolutely no idea about this character Douglas Kelly,
who kind of fulfilled in extraordinary role.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
So when I first started here at News Talk to
be as technical director for the Poor Holmes Breakfast, I
used to wear these wireless headphones get sort of clipped
over my ears. I don't know why I did. There
just a phase I was going through, I think, anyway,
(09:30):
and then Poul Holmes always to tell me I look
like somebody at the Nuremberg trials. So like I was
listening to them, you know, the testimony being translated, the
offensive V I mean, I know it's not really relevant
(09:52):
to anything.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I just love.
Speaker 7 (09:55):
News Talks.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It been any Wait, let's let's get to the Russel craze,
because you've been waiting for the whole podcast to hear
from them.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now, I want to talk about this film of yours.
What did you learn about the man you played?
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Well, that's a gigantic questions. So this interview is going
to be going for two weeks now. The point the
thing that you might not know in this particular instance,
you know, because what you're always looking for as an
actor when you're signing on to do something, that there's
going to be enough time for you to prep properly
you know, traditional rehearsals are a thing of the past.
(10:30):
Production companies just won't pay for that anymore. So you
have to find those moments of what I call quiet
contemplation where you get to really think through and learn
about what you're doing. And I signed on to do
Nuremberg in twenty nineteen. I was doing the TV show
The Loudest Voice in New York. I was playing Roger
Ailes and the script came and I read it and
(10:51):
I just responded to it straight away, and I started,
as I have a habit of doing, I start making
decisions very quickly, you know, about what I'm going to do,
what I'm going to look like, how it's going to feel,
what it will you know, blah blah blah, and thinking
that we would be making the film within six or
seven months. But we didn't actually start shooting the film
until so I had five years of that quiet contemplation.
(11:12):
And there is a lot to learn about Home And
because he was a massive figure in history way before
we in the West have kind of knew about him,
you know, in Allied countries, because he was a genuine
war hero from the First World War.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
He's pretty intense, doesn't he Russell Crowe.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, he's intense.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I I'm not. I've sort of I've sort of spent
my entire life trying to not be intense about anything anyway.
I bet I will be.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Back here again tomorrow, in tense or not.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
With more or us see then Hu's talking talkings it been.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
For more from News Talk, said b. Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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