December 4, 2025 • 11 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Thursday on Newstalk ZB) The Things You Don't Want on Your Profile/Why You Can Never Have Another Job/Summer Is Too Long/Prizegivings Are Too Long/59 Is Nothing to Celebrate
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm home, my litiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans
for Friday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart,
and we're looking back at Thursday, and we need to
poor old Andrew cost I sort of sway from condemning
him to feeling sorry for him anyway. He's out of
a job again. The summer holidays too long. We all
(00:49):
know that it's called prize givings are too long. And
Matt and Tyler were almost late to work. We'll find
out why. It's the most stupid reason I've ever heard.
But before any of that, should you be able to
police check somebody you're just dating? Probably should be able to,
shouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
How much do you need to know? And how how
much do you want to know? We had a caller
whose daughter was being in a relationship with a man
who was being very collersive and he knew something was up.
This was only a couple of weeks ago, you might
remember him. And he said, no, this isn't good. You've
got to come home. And he owned the house that
his daughter in the chap were living. And when he
(01:31):
started making inquiries about this guy whose behavior was suspect,
he found out that he had formed done it before
to other women, and he wanted her out of there,
and he wanted her out of there now, and he
wanted the guy out of the house. And how did
he best go about doing that? How much do you
(01:53):
need to know? How much do you want to know?
And how easy is it to get that information? Might
not be you I mean, you might have, you know,
sparkly eyes and you've just met the girl or the
boy of your dreams and you think they're absolutely amazing.
Parents or friends might think, really, when something's too good
(02:15):
to be true, it generally is I don't know about
this one. How much should you be entitled to know?
I would say that the death list would indicate that
the concern for the safety of families, men, women and
(02:36):
children should absolutely override the privacy of convicted offenders.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
There should be a way of you know, when when
you do something dodgy in your past life, it's just
part of your metadata on your tender profile or any profile.
It just there's just a little asterisk next to your name.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Online that might help news talk been.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right, So so Andrew Costa. He's never I'm gonna let
it down, is he? So he won't be allowed to
do any job ever, I think speaking of things that
you've done in the past that follow you around everywhere.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
As to the government, they've obviously been trying to get
him out without paying him too much. The bill is
three months paid out, essentially gardening leave, and crucially a
statement from the government that there was no cover up.
Roach said, no collusion of officers. That's despite the IPCA report
having the strong whiff of one, or as Judith Collins
put it, the walk talk and quack of one. Cost
(03:45):
has obviously done the clcs in his head on this,
and the longer you stay on and fight the mess
here it gets reputation wise, he'll be thinking about the
next job, of course, whatever and wherever that may be.
He strikes me as the sort of guy with a
plan to maybe one day go into politics, you know,
local cop boss, top cop boss, new modern approach to policing,
(04:09):
champion of progressive policing. That sort of resume would get
you pretty close to the top of a left landing
party pretty quickly. I would have thought he's not stupid,
but this scandal will rule him out of politics and
pretty much all top public sector jobs in New Zealand
pretty much for life. As for the police Association, well,
(04:30):
the boss there told us yesterday I on this program
that frontline officers are being taunted over this association. With
that sort of damage doesn't evaporate quickly, and the meyor
Kupper the sorry wasn't quick enough.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's to
say sorry straightaway, even if you've got no idea what
it is that you're apologizing for. I mean, obviously I
learned that at home before I even got the work.
Just accept full responsibility for anything that's gone wrong. It's
definitely your fault, even if you don't think that it is,
(05:07):
but you got to say it like you mean.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's talk siban all right.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So Yeah, we're well into December now, and so it's
tired to start thinking about going on holiday, especially if you.
I don't know Mike Hoskin as last day today. I
think we might see him by June July next year,
might come back. Yeah, I think Heather's wondering if we
(05:34):
go on a break for a little bit too long.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Now, I think Toss has got a point here. We
do this. This is why you'll see the Reserve Bank
leaves the economy basically in the park for two months
until they come back in February. But then again, I
don't want this to change, do you. I would rather
work flat out for eleven months a year and then
take a nice long break over summer than work all
(05:57):
year round and even pace. I think this is just
human nature, because summer is for enjoying. Summer is for
spending with your kids. It's for going out there, having
a swim, getting out in the sun, doing all the
things that make life worth living, seeing your family, all
the good stuff. Plenty of countries do this too. We're
not the only ones. Try getting anything done in Europe
in the month of August and you are out of
(06:19):
luck this year. The Bank of England, just just by
way of an example, you go look at any central bank.
Bank of England will not make a single decision for
the entire month of August, and then also for the
first two weeks of September. Now, maybe Toss has a
point that the summer is getting too long. Maybe we
should be powering ourselves right up until Christmas, then stopping
and then coming back after maybe four or five weeks
(06:40):
and getting stuck into it again at the start of February,
rather than taking ten weeks off with our brains. Fair enough,
But can I just say this, I urge caution here.
We have a really great work life balance in this country.
We understand that life is for living, not just for working.
We have a joy about our lives. Don't throw that
away too easily.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I only think that the summer breaks too long because
we don't get a decent break any other time of
the year. We need at least two breaks. That Easter
thing is not close enough to the middle of the year.
We need a midwinter break as well as a midsummer break.
We needs to talk about your balance. That's where the
balance really needs to be in my view. Don't worry
(07:26):
before when I said that Mike Hoskins going on holiday
next week, I'm still going to be here. I can't.
I don't know when. I'm never going on holiday. In
the meantime, speaking of things that happen at the end
of the year, Max, I mean at the school prize
giving and he just loved it.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
I think a lot of you will have experienced very
long school prize givings today. Yeah, I don't really know
what to say about that.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I don't know who loves those. Is it the schools
or is it the families. I'm not quite sure what
boy they go for a long time. Anyway, I know
over the years there have been schools that have got
rid of their prize givings because because it's the end
of the year, it's summer, it's a nice day, and
probably no one wants to be in the hall for
(08:14):
three hours.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
That's for sure. I didn't want to be there when
I was a kid, certainly didn't want to be there
when I was an adult. And one of the best
things about my kids finishing school was that I knew
that I would probably never have to support foot on
those premises ever again, certainly wouldn't ever have to go
to another prize giving.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
News Talk Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And further evidence that the Matt and Tyler Afternoon Show
is a bit of a shambles. They nearly missed it yesterday.
Wait till you find out why.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Very good afternoon to You're welcome, Man's thirst Day Show.
Great have you comeany kid.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Kida Tyler, I think this is our two hundred and
fifty six show something like that. Yep, together, but we
very nearly missed it, didn't.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
We We dit?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, it was touch and go. There can I say
it wasn't really Well, it was slightly our fault because
we went in to go see the good people at
hod Aki because they had a big birthday to day
and they had some cake.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Yeah, it's the fifty ninth anniversary of Radio Hodaki, which
station that I was at for many years. So we
went in and supplementary question, how long can you stay
before you're.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Allowed to take a slice of cake?
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Because basically we were rushing up to get to our
show here they were having their celebrations. We wanted to
share a bit of cake with them. So Tyler and
I straight through one door, grabbed two bits of cake.
I grab two, you grab one, and then out the door.
Does that count as a celebration?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I think it was well balanced though, because we did
the pleasant trees as we were walking through and it
was a slow walk, and then it was the pickup
of the cake and love you guys, happy birthday and
we'll see you soon and nobody said a word. I
thought it was nicely done, mate.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Yeah, hopefully it was respectful enough to that fantastic institution
that brought commercial radio to New Zealand. Without Radio Hodaki
back in the day and those pioneering pirates going out
at sea and fighting the government, then there wouldn't be
any of these commercial radio stations we have there. It
would all be controlled by government. Imagine if all the
radio was government control.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Cheap j be, it would be a terrible place.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
Not ZB news to ZB would not exist. So anyway,
it was great to steal some two bits of cake
off them to celebrate their fifty ninth in Adustry.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
And as you say, mate, what a history, what a
history for Radio HDIKI.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
But then air defense and we did get here. We
were just sprinting through the office on time. But then
the lift, so much congestion at this time of year.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
In the lift, we've got three lifts going on, but
they're all going down, so we had to wait for
one to go up. But we made it here. So
happy day any one.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So they were having a did he say a fifty
ninth birthday? Who has a fifty ninth birthday? I mean
to be fair. I know somebody who had a sixty
big sixty fifth birthday celebration this year. I think that
was because their sixtieth was completely ruined by COVID and
(10:56):
they're not completely confident about making it to seventy. So
maybe that's how Recki's reasoning that they're just wondering if
the ax is finally going to fall before they two
and sixty, so they're better make most of the fifty ninth.
I don't know what going on take though, I mean
cake is a good reason to do. It'd be late
for work, for sure. I must remember that. Sorry, young
(11:19):
late there was cake. I don't think anybody's going to
hold bet against you. I am a glen heart. I
hope there's some cake in your future. I'll see you
back here on Monday with the weekend editions.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm home, my litiful beanies, and welcome to the Beans
for Friday. First with yesterday's news, I am Glen Hart,
and we're looking back at Thursday, and we need to
poor old Andrew cost I sort of sway from condemning
him to feeling sorry for him anyway. He's out of
a job again. The summer holidays too long. We all
(00:49):
know that it's called prize givings are too long. And
Matt and Tyler were almost late to work. We'll find
out why. It's the most stupid reason I've ever heard.
But before any of that, should you be able to
police check somebody you're just dating? Probably should be able to,
shouldn't you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
How much do you need to know? And how how
much do you want to know? We had a caller
whose daughter was being in a relationship with a man
who was being very collersive and he knew something was up.
This was only a couple of weeks ago, you might
remember him. And he said, no, this isn't good. You've
got to come home. And he owned the house that
his daughter in the chap were living. And when he
(01:31):
started making inquiries about this guy whose behavior was suspect,
he found out that he had formed done it before
to other women, and he wanted her out of there,
and he wanted her out of there now, and he
wanted the guy out of the house. And how did
he best go about doing that? How much do you
(01:53):
need to know? How much do you want to know?
And how easy is it to get that information? Might
not be you I mean, you might have, you know,
sparkly eyes and you've just met the girl or the
boy of your dreams and you think they're absolutely amazing.
Parents or friends might think, really, when something's too good
(02:15):
to be true, it generally is I don't know about
this one. How much should you be entitled to know?
I would say that the death list would indicate that
the concern for the safety of families, men, women and
(02:36):
children should absolutely override the privacy of convicted offenders.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
There should be a way of you know, when when
you do something dodgy in your past life, it's just
part of your metadata on your tender profile or any profile.
It just there's just a little asterisk next to your name.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Online that might help news talk been.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right, So so Andrew Costa. He's never I'm gonna let
it down, is he? So he won't be allowed to
do any job ever, I think speaking of things that
you've done in the past that follow you around everywhere.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
As to the government, they've obviously been trying to get
him out without paying him too much. The bill is
three months paid out, essentially gardening leave, and crucially a
statement from the government that there was no cover up.
Roach said, no collusion of officers. That's despite the IPCA report
having the strong whiff of one, or as Judith Collins
put it, the walk talk and quack of one. Cost
(03:45):
has obviously done the clcs in his head on this,
and the longer you stay on and fight the mess
here it gets reputation wise, he'll be thinking about the
next job, of course, whatever and wherever that may be.
He strikes me as the sort of guy with a
plan to maybe one day go into politics, you know,
local cop boss, top cop boss, new modern approach to policing,
(04:09):
champion of progressive policing. That sort of resume would get
you pretty close to the top of a left landing
party pretty quickly. I would have thought he's not stupid,
but this scandal will rule him out of politics and
pretty much all top public sector jobs in New Zealand
pretty much for life. As for the police Association, well,
(04:30):
the boss there told us yesterday I on this program
that frontline officers are being taunted over this association. With
that sort of damage doesn't evaporate quickly, and the meyor
Kupper the sorry wasn't quick enough.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's to
say sorry straightaway, even if you've got no idea what
it is that you're apologizing for. I mean, obviously I
learned that at home before I even got the work.
Just accept full responsibility for anything that's gone wrong. It's
definitely your fault, even if you don't think that it is,
(05:07):
but you got to say it like you mean.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's talk siban all right.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So Yeah, we're well into December now, and so it's
tired to start thinking about going on holiday, especially if you.
I don't know Mike Hoskin as last day today. I
think we might see him by June July next year,
might come back. Yeah, I think Heather's wondering if we
(05:34):
go on a break for a little bit too long.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Now, I think Toss has got a point here. We
do this. This is why you'll see the Reserve Bank
leaves the economy basically in the park for two months
until they come back in February. But then again, I
don't want this to change, do you. I would rather
work flat out for eleven months a year and then
take a nice long break over summer than work all
(05:57):
year round and even pace. I think this is just
human nature, because summer is for enjoying. Summer is for
spending with your kids. It's for going out there, having
a swim, getting out in the sun, doing all the
things that make life worth living, seeing your family, all
the good stuff. Plenty of countries do this too. We're
not the only ones. Try getting anything done in Europe
in the month of August and you are out of
(06:19):
luck this year. The Bank of England, just just by
way of an example, you go look at any central bank.
Bank of England will not make a single decision for
the entire month of August, and then also for the
first two weeks of September. Now, maybe Toss has a
point that the summer is getting too long. Maybe we
should be powering ourselves right up until Christmas, then stopping
and then coming back after maybe four or five weeks
(06:40):
and getting stuck into it again at the start of February,
rather than taking ten weeks off with our brains. Fair enough,
But can I just say this, I urge caution here.
We have a really great work life balance in this country.
We understand that life is for living, not just for working.
We have a joy about our lives. Don't throw that
away too easily.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I only think that the summer breaks too long because
we don't get a decent break any other time of
the year. We need at least two breaks. That Easter
thing is not close enough to the middle of the year.
We need a midwinter break as well as a midsummer break.
We needs to talk about your balance. That's where the
balance really needs to be in my view. Don't worry
(07:26):
before when I said that Mike Hoskins going on holiday
next week, I'm still going to be here. I can't.
I don't know when. I'm never going on holiday. In
the meantime, speaking of things that happen at the end
of the year, Max, I mean at the school prize
giving and he just loved it.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
I think a lot of you will have experienced very
long school prize givings today. Yeah, I don't really know
what to say about that.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
I don't know who loves those. Is it the schools
or is it the families. I'm not quite sure what
boy they go for a long time. Anyway, I know
over the years there have been schools that have got
rid of their prize givings because because it's the end
of the year, it's summer, it's a nice day, and
probably no one wants to be in the hall for
(08:14):
three hours.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
That's for sure. I didn't want to be there when
I was a kid, certainly didn't want to be there
when I was an adult. And one of the best
things about my kids finishing school was that I knew
that I would probably never have to support foot on
those premises ever again, certainly wouldn't ever have to go
to another prize giving.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
News Talk Has it been right?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
And further evidence that the Matt and Tyler Afternoon Show
is a bit of a shambles. They nearly missed it yesterday.
Wait till you find out why.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Very good afternoon to You're welcome, Man's thirst Day Show.
Great have you comeany kid.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Kida Tyler, I think this is our two hundred and
fifty six show something like that. Yep, together, but we
very nearly missed it, didn't.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
We We dit?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, it was touch and go. There can I say
it wasn't really Well, it was slightly our fault because
we went in to go see the good people at
hod Aki because they had a big birthday to day
and they had some cake.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Yeah, it's the fifty ninth anniversary of Radio Hodaki, which
station that I was at for many years. So we
went in and supplementary question, how long can you stay
before you're.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Allowed to take a slice of cake?
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Because basically we were rushing up to get to our
show here they were having their celebrations. We wanted to
share a bit of cake with them. So Tyler and
I straight through one door, grabbed two bits of cake.
I grab two, you grab one, and then out the door.
Does that count as a celebration?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
I think it was well balanced though, because we did
the pleasant trees as we were walking through and it
was a slow walk, and then it was the pickup
of the cake and love you guys, happy birthday and
we'll see you soon and nobody said a word. I
thought it was nicely done, mate.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Yeah, hopefully it was respectful enough to that fantastic institution
that brought commercial radio to New Zealand. Without Radio Hodaki
back in the day and those pioneering pirates going out
at sea and fighting the government, then there wouldn't be
any of these commercial radio stations we have there. It
would all be controlled by government. Imagine if all the
radio was government control.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Cheap j be, it would be a terrible place.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
Not ZB news to ZB would not exist. So anyway,
it was great to steal some two bits of cake
off them to celebrate their fifty ninth in Adustry.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
And as you say, mate, what a history, what a
history for Radio HDIKI.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (10:21):
But then air defense and we did get here. We
were just sprinting through the office on time. But then
the lift, so much congestion at this time of year.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
In the lift, we've got three lifts going on, but
they're all going down, so we had to wait for
one to go up. But we made it here. So
happy day any one.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So they were having a did he say a fifty
ninth birthday? Who has a fifty ninth birthday? I mean
to be fair. I know somebody who had a sixty
big sixty fifth birthday celebration this year. I think that
was because their sixtieth was completely ruined by COVID and
(10:56):
they're not completely confident about making it to seventy. So
maybe that's how Recki's reasoning that they're just wondering if
the ax is finally going to fall before they two
and sixty, so they're better make most of the fifty ninth.
I don't know what going on take though, I mean
cake is a good reason to do. It'd be late
for work, for sure. I must remember that. Sorry, young
(11:19):
late there was cake. I don't think anybody's going to
hold bet against you. I am a glen heart. I
hope there's some cake in your future. I'll see you
back here on Monday with the weekend editions.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
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