December 17, 2025 • 12 mins
FIRST WITH YESTERDAY'S NEWS (highlights from Wednesday on Newstalk ZB) Sent to Bed Without Any Surplus/But Things Aren't So Bad/A Bit of a Thumping Never Did Me Any Harm/Cone-ageddon Update
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
This is yesterday's news. I am Glenn Art. We're looking
back our Wednesday. Ryan thinks recovery is on the cards.
That's some happy news from him. We do have a
lot of kids fighting in schools, although there may be
(00:44):
nothing new, and the old Roe Cone Hot Pine they've
got there around the wrong way, so they've been given
the ass But before any of that, Hi food fever,
it's backing New Talks the B yesterday and it meant
that no surplus, no surplus. You go to bed without
(01:05):
any surplus, New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But even allowing for the huge misery factor, there are
coalition partners she has to plicate and the government wants
to get re elected. It is utterly pointless steering the
right course, but only for three years. It is utterly
pointless saving a few billion here only for it to
(01:30):
be squandered next time round. So what do you suggest
she does? I would be really interested to hear from
those of you who have an opinion on what the
finance minister should do. I'm sure she gets plenty of
reckons from all sorts of people. The most recent and
the most high profile was former Finance Minister Ruth Richardson,
(01:53):
who really should pipe down. I'm glad that debates off.
That was just farcical. But Ruth Richardson needs to pipe
down because she could do things and did do things
that simply aren't possible for this finance minister to do
under MMP. And also it's a lot harder to get
(02:18):
elected under m MP and to have a big say
in the direction of the government unless you've got a
big platform, and so anything Nikola Willis does has to
be with an eye to being the biggest party to
form a government. So I tend to think she's right
(02:42):
that if you've got the taxpayers Union going, you're too soft,
you're too wet, you're too pathetic, you've got labor going,
you're too cruel, you're too harsh, you're too brutal, then
she's pretty much on the right track.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's very similar to how we run things here at News.
It's you'd be actually like on the mic Husking breakfast
as long as there's sort of an equal amount of
people complaining that Mike is to soft on the government
and too hard on the government. We've probably got it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
About right News Talk see it been.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
As the government to blame or not. Is the Andrew
Dickets going to be hard or soft on them? Let's
find out.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Being broke is our normal. And if I applied the
surplus deficit debt ratio to my own finances, then I've
been broke most of my adult life. I mean, hello,
who hasn't had a debt to equity ratio of ninety
five percent in their lives? So if you look at
that at that way, it starts so bad, and we're
still on the right half of the indebted nations list
because everyone's broke. I think sometimes we're a bit naive
(03:49):
when we demand surpluss about just how hard it is
to do. If you listen to Stephen Joyce on Heather's
Show yesterday, he said government books are hard to turn
like a supertanker. As he said yesterday, it can take
up to a decade to go from deficit to surplus.
But some of us think, oh, a few public service
cuts and cuts to benefits and we'll be tickety boot
out fiscal crisis is far more fundamental than that, and
(04:12):
that the problem is we don't make enough money in
this world to fix it. We need to make more
money in the world so we have more tax revenue,
so we can then afford the good stuff and the
necessary stuff, and so we don't have to have debt.
So my question to you is, what are you doing
there standing here listening to this. Get to work, make
(04:33):
more money?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think I am. That must be Surely that is
what I'm doing right now, is it? I think I've
been paid to do whatever it is that I'm doing
right now. Surely they wouldn't do that if I was,
if I wasn't providing something back the other way. I
think there's at least one ad that plays in the
(04:54):
middle of this podcast, isn't there? And there certainly seens
to be some ads on the page that you go
to on the website. Oh geez, I hope I'm not
losing money doing this for the company. I'm starting to
worry about it now us talk side. Ryan doesn't want
us to worry. Though I think he was in it.
It's been about crotchety vaguely, I feel like, but he
(05:17):
was a bit more out feat yesterday afterday about just everything.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
We've had many a false storm or a false start,
but barring any major cockups, this recovery feels like it's
real and starting to actually happen. The missing ingredient, of course,
is house prices, which are either sideways or backwards for
most regions. That's the liquor in your Irish coffee that
really gets things moving on the economic front generally. But
(05:43):
this recovery will happen without it. It won't be sowing
property prices that give birth to this recovery. It won't
start in an auction room with a hammer going down
on a four million dollar two Betty in sandring him.
What's going to drive this recovery and make it probably
more of a gradual one is confidence in our agricultural exporters,
(06:05):
lower mortgage interest rates, and I think, more than anything,
a feeling that we are just sick of being in
this position. Aren't you tired of it? The ironic truth
of it is that in order to get us out
of this malaise, we must spend money, rather than save it,
which is kind of your instinct. When these things happen.
We must go out and buy stuff So this Christmas,
(06:28):
take that confidence to your nearest shopping mall, and tonight
I can report I'm doing exactly that. Westfield I've checked
this morning is open till ten pm. I've found a
tent I need to buy, I'd want to buy, I'm
going to buy, and I've been eyeing it up today.
I'm ready to push play. I'm ready to push play
on summer, on spending and on an economic Christmas miracle.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Pushing play on spending. I did a bit of that yesterday,
but a Christmas shopping caught the dog a new toothbrush.
I know, push the boat out right, I'm god shopping
retail therapy, crazy mecho. Okay, So it looks like heaps
(07:11):
of kids have been suspended for thumping each other at school.
Probably not great, is it? Apparently it builds character getting
a thump at school. Oh sorry, I had that wrong.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Almost eleven thousand kids were stood down for either physically
assaulting other students or their teachers. So the question we
put to you is our schools safer than they've ever been.
But as you mentioned, Matt, there might be a question
there when it comes to assaults on teachers. If you're
in the industry love to hear from you.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
The six says, guys, it's just because it's less acceptable now.
I'm an eighties baby and getting and giving a donk
was common, and we never cried to the teacher about it.
We just took it. I feel like because your generation
had like that, we tell our kids don't let anyone
hit you and say something that. It's just more exposed
now because schools have a zero tolerance all the ones
my kids attended, so they have to stand them down
(08:03):
and report it. The one time I got done for
fighting in primary schools, my punishment was doing line in
the office in my lunch break.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So true, I wasn't really a fighter. I mean I
got thumped queen Gee because I was a talkout, not
a fighter. I would love to have been a lover.
So those are usually the choices, aren't a lover or fighter.
They often forget about the talker. The people like me
with the smart mouth get someone in trouble because she
(08:32):
used to love winding up bullies up to used to
wind them up to something point. So I almost wore
it as a badge of pride if I got thumped
in to be fair, but I've got that a really
really found up that bully. Oh those were the days
(08:52):
I headed school news talk.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Has it been okay?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So the old kick ass spast Trekking Banner put calls
scraping carry out of the ditch government telition government might
have been a little bit quick to pull the trigger
on the old road cone hotline before they actually changed
the rules that needed that all the road codes have
(09:19):
to be out there. Because of the rules. It's probably
the rules fault, not really the people who are putting
the road cones out.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Its fault.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
They didn't figure that out first. Isn't that what happened there?
Speaker 8 (09:30):
This is entirely predictable and entirely entirely typical and entirely
typical of this coalition is that the cone hotline has
been discontinued. And that was a cost of about one
(09:50):
thousand dollars per cone that was freed.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So yeah, there we go.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Always a dumb idea and unbelievable they got to go
through with it, and now unbelievable they try and suggest
that it was a success. That's why they've removed it.
Seven hundred and fifty dollars a cone per removed and
Van Veld and Brook van Veld and said it was
money real well spent. So there we go, absurd waste
(10:21):
of public money, the cone of silence, and a thing
that has failed to deliver. So there we go. That's
the Cone. The phone cone hotline has gone. I would
imagine what's happening is a lot of things are happening
this time of the year because the kind of the
newsrooms are at Christmas parties and things aren't getting reported.
(10:44):
So that's that the cone hotline has gone. Whether the
country's obsessions with cones are still there, I don't know.
Probably is.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, let's hope that they sort of have another look
at things and realize that it's the rules about putting
cones out there have to change, and just people complaining
about it, isn't it going to really do anything. I
also hope that things like, you know, the whole we
don't care about frogs and skinks and things like that
(11:16):
and native bush and animals, so let's forget about all
those rules. I hope that we don't get into a
similar situation like that before too many expect you know,
species go extinct and stuff like that, because with the
road cones, it's just a bit of inconvenience, isn't it.
(11:37):
But yeah, once an animal goes extinct, you know what
I mean, like the fast tracking stuff, too many things
because everybody goes, ah, you know, you can't do that
because it might kill a frog, which it does sound
a bit annoying, but then you end up with no frogs.
(11:57):
And then in saying that, I've got a mystery frog
at the moment that seems to be living on under
or around a vegetable garden, and it's driving the dog
crazy and I see it every now and again, and
I go to catch it and then it hops away.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's quite hard to catch frogs.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Isn't it. Random into the podcast, but you regret staying
right through to the end or are you pleased that
you're to? Surely you must if you're the kind of
person who stays through this kind of thing, you'd be
pleased everything. Who knows what will happen at the end
of Tomorrow's one, because it'll be the last one of
(12:33):
the year. Exciting See then.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
News Talking Talking Said Beam for more from News Talk
Said B Listen live on air or online, and keep
our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday.
This is yesterday's news. I am Glenn Art. We're looking
back our Wednesday. Ryan thinks recovery is on the cards.
That's some happy news from him. We do have a
lot of kids fighting in schools, although there may be
(00:44):
nothing new, and the old Roe Cone Hot Pine they've
got there around the wrong way, so they've been given
the ass But before any of that, Hi food fever,
it's backing New Talks the B yesterday and it meant
that no surplus, no surplus. You go to bed without
(01:05):
any surplus, New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
But even allowing for the huge misery factor, there are
coalition partners she has to plicate and the government wants
to get re elected. It is utterly pointless steering the
right course, but only for three years. It is utterly
pointless saving a few billion here only for it to
(01:30):
be squandered next time round. So what do you suggest
she does? I would be really interested to hear from
those of you who have an opinion on what the
finance minister should do. I'm sure she gets plenty of
reckons from all sorts of people. The most recent and
the most high profile was former Finance Minister Ruth Richardson,
(01:53):
who really should pipe down. I'm glad that debates off.
That was just farcical. But Ruth Richardson needs to pipe
down because she could do things and did do things
that simply aren't possible for this finance minister to do
under MMP. And also it's a lot harder to get
(02:18):
elected under m MP and to have a big say
in the direction of the government unless you've got a
big platform, and so anything Nikola Willis does has to
be with an eye to being the biggest party to
form a government. So I tend to think she's right
(02:42):
that if you've got the taxpayers Union going, you're too soft,
you're too wet, you're too pathetic, you've got labor going,
you're too cruel, you're too harsh, you're too brutal, then
she's pretty much on the right track.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It's very similar to how we run things here at News.
It's you'd be actually like on the mic Husking breakfast
as long as there's sort of an equal amount of
people complaining that Mike is to soft on the government
and too hard on the government. We've probably got it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
About right News Talk see it been.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
As the government to blame or not. Is the Andrew
Dickets going to be hard or soft on them? Let's
find out.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Being broke is our normal. And if I applied the
surplus deficit debt ratio to my own finances, then I've
been broke most of my adult life. I mean, hello,
who hasn't had a debt to equity ratio of ninety
five percent in their lives? So if you look at
that at that way, it starts so bad, and we're
still on the right half of the indebted nations list
because everyone's broke. I think sometimes we're a bit naive
(03:49):
when we demand surpluss about just how hard it is
to do. If you listen to Stephen Joyce on Heather's
Show yesterday, he said government books are hard to turn
like a supertanker. As he said yesterday, it can take
up to a decade to go from deficit to surplus.
But some of us think, oh, a few public service
cuts and cuts to benefits and we'll be tickety boot
out fiscal crisis is far more fundamental than that, and
(04:12):
that the problem is we don't make enough money in
this world to fix it. We need to make more
money in the world so we have more tax revenue,
so we can then afford the good stuff and the
necessary stuff, and so we don't have to have debt.
So my question to you is, what are you doing
there standing here listening to this. Get to work, make
(04:33):
more money?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I think I am. That must be Surely that is
what I'm doing right now, is it? I think I've
been paid to do whatever it is that I'm doing
right now. Surely they wouldn't do that if I was,
if I wasn't providing something back the other way. I
think there's at least one ad that plays in the
(04:54):
middle of this podcast, isn't there? And there certainly seens
to be some ads on the page that you go
to on the website. Oh geez, I hope I'm not
losing money doing this for the company. I'm starting to
worry about it now us talk side. Ryan doesn't want
us to worry. Though I think he was in it.
It's been about crotchety vaguely, I feel like, but he
(05:17):
was a bit more out feat yesterday afterday about just everything.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
We've had many a false storm or a false start,
but barring any major cockups, this recovery feels like it's
real and starting to actually happen. The missing ingredient, of course,
is house prices, which are either sideways or backwards for
most regions. That's the liquor in your Irish coffee that
really gets things moving on the economic front generally. But
(05:43):
this recovery will happen without it. It won't be sowing
property prices that give birth to this recovery. It won't
start in an auction room with a hammer going down
on a four million dollar two Betty in sandring him.
What's going to drive this recovery and make it probably
more of a gradual one is confidence in our agricultural exporters,
(06:05):
lower mortgage interest rates, and I think, more than anything,
a feeling that we are just sick of being in
this position. Aren't you tired of it? The ironic truth
of it is that in order to get us out
of this malaise, we must spend money, rather than save it,
which is kind of your instinct. When these things happen.
We must go out and buy stuff So this Christmas,
(06:28):
take that confidence to your nearest shopping mall, and tonight
I can report I'm doing exactly that. Westfield I've checked
this morning is open till ten pm. I've found a
tent I need to buy, I'd want to buy, I'm
going to buy, and I've been eyeing it up today.
I'm ready to push play. I'm ready to push play
on summer, on spending and on an economic Christmas miracle.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Pushing play on spending. I did a bit of that yesterday,
but a Christmas shopping caught the dog a new toothbrush.
I know, push the boat out right, I'm god shopping
retail therapy, crazy mecho. Okay, So it looks like heaps
(07:11):
of kids have been suspended for thumping each other at school.
Probably not great, is it? Apparently it builds character getting
a thump at school. Oh sorry, I had that wrong.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Almost eleven thousand kids were stood down for either physically
assaulting other students or their teachers. So the question we
put to you is our schools safer than they've ever been.
But as you mentioned, Matt, there might be a question
there when it comes to assaults on teachers. If you're
in the industry love to hear from you.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
The six says, guys, it's just because it's less acceptable now.
I'm an eighties baby and getting and giving a donk
was common, and we never cried to the teacher about it.
We just took it. I feel like because your generation
had like that, we tell our kids don't let anyone
hit you and say something that. It's just more exposed
now because schools have a zero tolerance all the ones
my kids attended, so they have to stand them down
(08:03):
and report it. The one time I got done for
fighting in primary schools, my punishment was doing line in
the office in my lunch break.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So true, I wasn't really a fighter. I mean I
got thumped queen Gee because I was a talkout, not
a fighter. I would love to have been a lover.
So those are usually the choices, aren't a lover or fighter.
They often forget about the talker. The people like me
with the smart mouth get someone in trouble because she
(08:32):
used to love winding up bullies up to used to
wind them up to something point. So I almost wore
it as a badge of pride if I got thumped
in to be fair, but I've got that a really
really found up that bully. Oh those were the days
(08:52):
I headed school news talk.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Has it been okay?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So the old kick ass spast Trekking Banner put calls
scraping carry out of the ditch government telition government might
have been a little bit quick to pull the trigger
on the old road cone hotline before they actually changed
the rules that needed that all the road codes have
(09:19):
to be out there. Because of the rules. It's probably
the rules fault, not really the people who are putting
the road cones out.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Its fault.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
They didn't figure that out first. Isn't that what happened there?
Speaker 8 (09:30):
This is entirely predictable and entirely entirely typical and entirely
typical of this coalition is that the cone hotline has
been discontinued. And that was a cost of about one
(09:50):
thousand dollars per cone that was freed.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So yeah, there we go.
Speaker 8 (09:57):
Always a dumb idea and unbelievable they got to go
through with it, and now unbelievable they try and suggest
that it was a success. That's why they've removed it.
Seven hundred and fifty dollars a cone per removed and
Van Veld and Brook van Veld and said it was
money real well spent. So there we go, absurd waste
(10:21):
of public money, the cone of silence, and a thing
that has failed to deliver. So there we go. That's
the Cone. The phone cone hotline has gone. I would
imagine what's happening is a lot of things are happening
this time of the year because the kind of the
newsrooms are at Christmas parties and things aren't getting reported.
(10:44):
So that's that the cone hotline has gone. Whether the
country's obsessions with cones are still there, I don't know.
Probably is.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, let's hope that they sort of have another look
at things and realize that it's the rules about putting
cones out there have to change, and just people complaining
about it, isn't it going to really do anything. I
also hope that things like, you know, the whole we
don't care about frogs and skinks and things like that
(11:16):
and native bush and animals, so let's forget about all
those rules. I hope that we don't get into a
similar situation like that before too many expect you know,
species go extinct and stuff like that, because with the
road cones, it's just a bit of inconvenience, isn't it.
(11:37):
But yeah, once an animal goes extinct, you know what
I mean, like the fast tracking stuff, too many things
because everybody goes, ah, you know, you can't do that
because it might kill a frog, which it does sound
a bit annoying, but then you end up with no frogs.
(11:57):
And then in saying that, I've got a mystery frog
at the moment that seems to be living on under
or around a vegetable garden, and it's driving the dog
crazy and I see it every now and again, and
I go to catch it and then it hops away.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It's quite hard to catch frogs.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Isn't it. Random into the podcast, but you regret staying
right through to the end or are you pleased that
you're to? Surely you must if you're the kind of
person who stays through this kind of thing, you'd be
pleased everything. Who knows what will happen at the end
of Tomorrow's one, because it'll be the last one of
(12:33):
the year. Exciting See then.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
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