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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thirteen ten Double eu ibat every Day Outdoor Living, brought
to you by the Bruce Company online. Bruce Company dot com.
That's all one word, Bruce Company dot com. Great day
to get on into the Middleton Garden Center, the Bruce Company.
I'd love to see it right at twenty eight to
thirty parm inter Street. That's twenty eight thirty parm inter Street.
No calls today because we are recorded.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
But Lisa Sean's playing hooky.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I am.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
It's great my network. Yes, yes, just.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Saying right now.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
Usually I'm here in the studio, but yeah, today I'm
already at the garden Center.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's weird to think about it that way, Lisa, to
be honest, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I know exactly.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
We're transporting ourselves into the future.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Well, and thank you for doing this. I know it's
it's uh it.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
You're a very busy person at the at the Garden
Center and you've got a lot going on.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
So thank you for doing this this morning.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
And if you want to say hi to Lisa this morning,
you can stop on by twenty at thirty parm inter Street.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, because I'm there, Yes, yes you are, Yes you are.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
We've got we're gonna talk about some some early summer
summer questions that pop up up and garden Center.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
This is we've never done this before.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
This is kind of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
So we usually just chat and we do want to
talk about a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Because Father's Day is coming up bad.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I would not forget.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Lisa, of course, and so we have some things happening.
I'm going to say, like a week away like like
in the past. So we have some free garden consults
that we're doing on Saturdays this summer. And so there
are still a few spaces left in the one that

(01:31):
is going to be on the Oh gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh count right behind you.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
I'm lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, we got a different studio too.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
That's the other fun thing is when you when you're
doing a different show June twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
So sign up for that.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
And then we also for Father's Day have the folks
with the Model Aise the car show that we have done.
I think this is maybe the third Father's Day weekend
that we've done this.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's really fun.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
They bring all those restored cars and they park them
in the parking lot there like super devoted and excited
and you can kind of check them out and talk
to the owners.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
They love they love questions and they love the.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Absolutely they absolutely do.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
And I know you guys love questions at the Bruce Company.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
You can always email Plant Desk at Brucecompany dot com
if you've got something going on in the gardener out
back you're going, what exactly is this?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Take a picture, send it to them. They'd love to
do that.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Even better, stop on in the Middleton Garden center of
the Bruce Company. I mentioned, of course going on in
Father's Day you've got the garden consults as well, going on.
What about as far as I know, we've talked about
this in the past. As we start getting into into
the full swing of summer.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, there's always stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
And this is the cool thing about the Bruce Company
and why folks need to get there regularly.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
There's always new stuff coming, new stuff going on changing.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yes, it's sort of rollover time for us. So we're
transitioning from the spring into summer, and so a lot
of plants. We get perennials in every week, so the
perennial department kind of stays for all the time based
on what's blooming. Our growers send us lists of what's

(03:07):
ready and that's what comes, so everything's always looking fresh
and beautiful. Of course, we have trees and shrubs, and
we do sort of some rolling sales at this time
of year, so every Friday there's a new sale that
runs for two weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And so being in the past speaking to the future, I.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Will say that roses are on sale twenty five percent off.
But I'm not sure what the selection is going to
the well, no, what the next one that could be added,
because we haven't made that decision yet. It's a huge selection,
just don't yeah, yes, So it's just really funny.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
So and we always post that on.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Our Facebook page, a link to our specials page, which
you can also go right to on the website and
see what's going on.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
That's Bruce Company dot com, Bruce Coompany dot com.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
And as we talk about some early summer questions for
UH for Lisa, one of the things that I think
a lot of us wonder this, now that we are
into June, is it too late to start anything?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Is it too late to start a garden.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
You can do plants, of course, and you can do
quick things because as we get into the heat, things
will germinate quickly. But but plants that have a longer
amount of time from when they germinate to when they bear.
You know, it starts getting a little tricky. So when
you're looking at those seed packets, just look at there.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
There's always somewhere.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
In there on all the you know, the information that's
on the back of the packet is how long from
germination to harvest?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, And so you just need to do some counting.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Usually we can count on mid October before there's a frost,
but temperatures also start to cool, so then things ripe
and more slowly. Of course, there are always quick crops
you can do, you know, if you're if you are
doing lettuce or spinach or that kind of thing. As
it gets hot, you could build like a little shade

(05:06):
cover with some that floating row cover that you bought,
you know, to protect from frost, to protect from hail damage,
all those things that you use it for. You can
use that to create like a little quantt hot a
little hoop for it. And if you sort of mitigate
the heat and the sun a little bit, you can
you can grow that stuff all summer.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Long talk this morning with Lisa Briggs from the Bruce Company.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Great day to get on into the Middleton Garden Center
of the Rust Company, right at twenty eight thirty param
Or Street. That's twenty eight thirty Partment Street. Some of
the common questions that folks are asking, Yeah, there's a
list here, Yes there is. We do have a list.
I cheated a little bit. I gotta get this put together.
What about with this with with this time of year?
I'm assuming and this is not my question. This is

(05:49):
one that was given to me, given to us, and
it is is it safe to leave my plants outside overnight? Now?

Speaker 3 (05:55):
I think I know the answer. But yeah, I think.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
You're pretty safe.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
All right.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, in Montana, all all bets are off.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Goodness, Yeah you were saying the other week there it's.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well actually it was like ten minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yes, yes, what about as we think about watering and
other I know we've had kind of uh in every
spring and summer. It's we are like, oh, this is
so weird, and it's like it's it would be weird
if it were normal or followed like a schedule. And
I do see this sometimes, like plants that I'm watering
will still show the look wilted and other things.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
What's going on there?

Speaker 4 (06:30):
So there are like the three big reasons why plants
don't survive when you plant them. One is just that
you planted it improperly, o, you planted it too deep,
you planted it in the wrong spot, you know. The
other one, the other one is watering. The third one

(06:51):
is just it's just the wrong plant, right.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Sometimes it's just the wrong plant.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Watering is a big one because you know a lot
of people will water often, like every day for a
little short.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Amount of time.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
That works for containers, of course, that works for maybe annuals,
but for most plants, especially for trees and shrubs, they
need a deep water less often.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
You want the water to get to the roots. That's
where the water needs to be.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
And so when you plant trees and shrubs, it's you know,
based on the size of the plant. But ask the
folks at the garden center, because they will tell you
that if you're buying a tree and a fifteen gallon container,
that thing needs to be watered once a week for
like forty five minutes, and not forty five minutes broken
up three times, but forty five minutes continuous minutes.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Am I watering right at the base or around or
where am I at when you're planting things.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
You know, it's a smaller area for sure, right because
the roots are in that container and now they're in
the hole that you dug, and that's where the water
needs to be. You can also help matters by using
like a starter fertilizer that's meant for root establishment. You

(08:16):
can also mulch. You can also improve your soil. All
of those are our methods that will help the tree
establish and that's the main goal. You want to get
your plants established. And we're talking you know, perennial plants.
We're not talking annuals and that kind of thing. And
vegetables those don't those last the season, that's what they're

(08:38):
meant for. But for the things that that are going
to be in your yard for a long time, and
if you're going to invest in something that's going to
be in this space for one hundred years, it's like
a small investment of time at the beginning to get
the tree or shrub or perennial off to a really

(08:59):
good stuf.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Do things like mulch help kind of mitigate weather concerns.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, yeah, they help to retain soil moisture.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
They help to keep the soil temperature more constant. Later
in the year we will talk about mulching tender perennials,
but we will say wait until the ground is frozen,
because what you're trying to do is keep the temperature
more constant.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh, talking this morning with Lisa Breaks from the Bruce
Company online Bruce Company dot com. That's Bruce Company dot com.
If you've got a question, you can always email the
plant desk plant desk at Bruce Company dot com. That's
all one word, Plant desk at Bruce Company dot com.
Great day to get on in. They'd love to see
it right at the Midleton Garden Center of the Bruce Company.
Twenty eight thirty partm Interistry. That's twenty eight thirty param interistry.
Talking about some of the common questions folks ask at

(09:46):
the Bruce Company wonder about when it comes to plant
health overall.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
What about deadheading? And I hear this term and I
all right away ask that's brutal?

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Does that it doesn't sound for a right I start
getting a little touch of gray, a little grateful dead
in there.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I don't know, I I go.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Right toward violence.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 3 (10:03):
What is dead head? And should people be thinking about that?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Right?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Now, so what dead heading does is a plant's purpose
in making a flower is not to give us enjoyment,
sure or provide beauty. Sometimes it is to attract pollinators.
So sometimes the way a flower looks is specific for
a purpose. But ultimately a plant wants to propagate itself.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Seeds.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Seeds make more seeds, and so that.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Takes a lot of energy from a plant. So a
lot of times if you don't stop this process, then
the plant will stop flowering because it's going to put
the energy in another directions making seeds, towards making seeds.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
There are a lot of annual plants that kind of
self deadhead themselves.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
That's like you know, right, but perennial and trees and
shrubs do not do that.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I never knew that's why. And now I heard the term.
I've seen it done, and I guess I never thought
about the reasoning other than that let's.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Get it out of there, right.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
So it's for appearance.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Because you have a rose plant, say let's just pick
a rose and and you let it go, and it
will start to form hips. And those hips are attractive
in September, but in June and July and August, you
want to see more roses. So that's why you clip
off those spent flowers. So then that says, you know,

(11:35):
the plant is must propagate musk, produce seeds. So there
are you know, there are some plants that are not
going to do this.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
They're just not going to rebloom. Okay, lilacs. Okay, you
could prone a lilac all you want. There. They are
the newer varieties that like that that will produce.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Some flowers afterwards, but not to the extent that that
spring flush is.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
So yeah, so there are some.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
There are some that if you dead head them or
shear back those spent flowers, you'll get another flush. Spyria
will do that, Oh, Spyria.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
And there are perennials that will do that as well.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh fantastic.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Mike Selvia is a perfect example.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
And with this stuff too is And one of the
things I love about getting to the Bruce Company is
get some some explanation. If you're wondering, like I need to,
I'll let you know what the Bruce Company as well.
Great day to get on into the Middleton Garden Center
the Ruce Company right at twenty eight thirty Para Metro Street.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
That's twenty eight thirty Para Metro Street.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
We'll talk about some plant health issues, also some pet
pest problems which could involve your pet. For Lisa, you
never you never know that friendly neighborhood deer.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
That's my dear. No, it's so yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
For me, it's chipmunks and rap bunks.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
We'll talk about dealing with them as well as things
with more legs and harder shells. We'll talk with Lisa
about that so much more. Next, don't forget to meet time,
but the way website. Recently head on over Bruce Company
dot com. That's Bruce Company dot com. Keep up to
day and all the great stuff going on at the
Bruce Company. Great day to get on in Middleton Gardens
the Bruce Company twenty eight thirty partm inter Street that's
twenty eight thirty Partment Street.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
More of every day outdoor.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Living with the Bruce Company comes your way next right
here on thirteen ten double you ib eight thirteen ten
WIBA and Everyday Outdoor Living brought to you by the
Bruce Company Online. Bruce Company dot com. That's Bruce Company
dot com. Great website and resource to learn more about
the Bruce Company. Always great stuff going on there. It's
always a great day also to get on in to

(13:34):
the Middleton Garden Center of the Bruce Company. I find
them right at twenty eight thirty Parmenter Street. That's twenty
eight to thirty Parmenter Street. Talking about some of the
gardening questions that this time of year, as we are
well into into June, now what's kind of coming up?
And Lisa, I don't know if we've defeated the Japanese
beetle or if people have just found ways with it.

(13:54):
I don't hear as much about it. We do, we
know anything about Last year.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Was kind of a I don't know if there was
a population crash.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I don't know if it was because the frost was deep.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
I don't know that people.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
You know that more people than not are doing some
preventative measures like putting down a grub.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Acide on their lawn or what.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
But it was it was sort of a quiet year
for the Japanese beetle last year.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I don't who knows what's going to happen this year.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Floating roll cover have it ready?

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yet don't Yeah, the floating roll
cover is really valuable at the Japanese beetle time of year,
we usually see them about the fourth of July, but
they are not triggered by the calendar. They are triggered
by a growing degree days and the temperature of the soil.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
That is what causes them to switch over to.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Their adult stage and emerge, and then they copulate and
then they go back on the ground and lay eggs,
so they spend about eighty percent of their life underground.
They usually emerge around the fourth of July, end of June,
early July.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
We kind of wait till we start to hear reports
of the plant desk and questions, and there are options.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's grub aside an option right now.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
Grubicide is an option. Grub aside lasts last a year,
so not only are you stopping now, the the grubs
pew paint, so the eggs grow into grubs, and then
the grubs feed on your lawn roots or underground things,

(15:41):
and then they pew pay for the winter and then
they emerge as adults. So gruboside is good if if
you're if it's depending on the timing. It's hard to
know if.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's too late for them now it won't be too
late for them for next year.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Make them pay.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah. Roll covers will help to keep your vegetables. Like
if you have raspberries or green beans, they love that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
You can just kind of lay that on there.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
Because they fly in land, they don't they don't crawl
around climbers.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
They're not climbers.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
So if you protect those things with a roll cover,
it's super easy, it's very lightweight, it won't work your plant,
then you will be able to get your raspberries unspoiled.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Excellent.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
There's a sadistic part of me that too, that enjoys
them putting all that effort into flying towards the plant.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Only to have a net.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Worn makes it easier for your chickens to catch.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Oh those tasty, tasty little victuals. They love those things.
Speaking of adorable things, then obviously the bugs are not.
But chickens and other things in your art are adorable.
So are and we all love squirrels and chipmunks and deer.
They're all so beautiful. Rabbits, The problem is they.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Do not love them. I know they're cute, but.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Gardener first, what can we be doing about those folks?
The furry ore furry friends.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
So there are two things that will work. You can
use a barrier, okay, build a fence, whatever, or you
can use a repellent. And you might have to experiment
with which kind of repellent is going to work best
for you. And if you came in to the garden
center and you lined us all up and you asked us.

(17:22):
We have a lot of different options at the store,
and we all have a favorite. Gail likes the mace products.
So there's mouse mace, rabbit mace, and it's made with
like peppermint oils. Oh, and I like Shakeaway, I like

(17:43):
the Predator. You're in products other people like liquid vents
or repels all and they're like basically the same thing, right, Yeah,
but you're.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Really married to one or the other.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, And you'd be hot pressed to explain to somebody
that I'm sorry, we don't have repels all today, but
we do have liquid fents. Oh I don't want that
I need, but there are options.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's like the drainal liquid plumber. People like, what's the difference.
But cocin pets, that's a great one.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, with those products too for veg and other things.
Certainly you want to talk. Make sure whatever you're getting
is is safer.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Yes, And I usually do not put the product on
the plants. I use the product like around the plants
like a fence, because it's a scent barrier. Yeah, So
why let them get to your plant to smell it
if you can maybe keep them away from your plants
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Matson always just call it a stinky spray.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah, that it is very It is gagon decent, which
is why I use the granular stuff because I don't
have a deer problem. Okay, but in when I was Inboygan,
when I was in Sheboygan, there were marauding herds.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
I used to chase them with my.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Car, Go go moving, get.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Out of here. Yes, the neighbors would laugh because I
would go out on the back deck and say get
out of here and be yelling at them.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
But they they responded more to a spray.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
But again I would do the spray at the edge
of the hosta bed so that they wouldn't like like
an invisible sense.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Those hostas are like they're like candy.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yes, they are talking this morning with Lisa Breaks from
the Bruce Company online Bruce Company dot com that's Bruce
Company dot Com. Great website and resource. Great day to
get on into the Middleton Garden center of the Bruce
Company right at twenty eight thirty partmentor Street. That's twenty
eight thirty Parmenter Street. Now that we're kind of into
the into swing of summer, what about kind of keeping
flowers blooming and.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Kind of is it a good it's probably a good
time to be.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Thinking about replacement or phil for some of those surely
sprint blooming.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, so if you're talking about perennials, yeah, so
time to switch over to things like salvia or for shade, geraniums,
cone flowers, all those later blooming things. There are also
things that will bloom even later than now. So if
you're thinking about what's going to look good in the fall,
you could add some toad lilies or turtle head or

(20:13):
something like that. For annual gardens, either you're replacing bedding
plants because they're not thriving, or you're updating your containers
as it gets hot, so you can you know, we've
got some larger sizes, we'll start getting larger sizes. But

(20:33):
think about too about fertilizing. Oh yes, so especially with
annuals and.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Vegetables.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
So they were grown in a greenhouse in a controlled environment.
They were fertilized hopefully when you planted them. You used
maybe Osma code or a slow release fertilizer in the
soil when you planted. It lasts about six to eight weeks,
and how the watering is going. So I would say

(21:04):
you need to start thinking about end of June early
July about what your next step is. And now's the
time to switch to a liquid product that you spray
onto the foliage. And there are lots of options. Miracle
Grow makes really good ones, Jacks, peters. There are a
bunch of different ones and some of them have more

(21:25):
specialized formulations. There's one for petunias because there's a particular
mineral that petunias respond to to have more blossoms, So
there are ones for bloom boosting.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
There are things for plants that like it a little more,
a little more acidity in their lives.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
So stop in ask the folks at the garden center,
kind of talk to them about what you have, and
we can advite you on how to keep those containers
looking really lush all summer long.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
That's a great, great thing to do today.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Get on into the Middleton Garden Center, say hello, Say hey, Lisa,
I heard you this morning.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Final if Lisa heard herself this morning.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Of course I never listened to my ever. Just creepy.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Maybe walk in with it on your on your phone
as you're straying.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Away, I hate listening to.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
This great day.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
To get on into the Middleton Guards of the Bruce
Company right at twenty eight thirty partimentor street. That's twenty
eight thirty parliamentor Street. Online Bruce Company dot com. That's
Bruce Company dot com. Lisa, that's always great hanging out
and enjoy this beautiful day.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
You as well.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
News comes join next year on thirteen ten. Double ib
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