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There was a study that came outyesterday and I guess the then. I
mean, I don't know what everyheadline is, but your subject matter would
be shredding, anger, shredding anger. Okay, do you see it?
Was it shedding or shredding, shreddingshredding not shedding. Shedding is like I
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shed clothes if I'm hot, Shreddinglike a paper shredder. A study in
Japan has found that writing down yourreactions to a negative incident on a piece
of paper and then shredding it orscrunching it into a ball and throwing it
into a trash can helps you getrid of anger. So the whole I
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was trying to understand the study partof the confused me a little bit.
The way that Diane explained it madeit seem very easy. Maybe sometimes the
researchers like overspeak, but it madeit sound like if some if somebody came
to you, But what would thenegative thing be? I mean to me,
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they just said, it's a negativeincident. So something happens to you,
it pisss you off, you writedown your reaction, or write down
maybe what pissed you off on apiece of paper or maybe just somebody's name,
and then you ball it up andthrow it away, or you shred
it and throw it away. Ohsee, I thought it was I see.
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I guess I misunderstood it. Maybethat's why I'm confused. I thought
it was if somebody, like ifsomebody, if somebody said something that was
like really negative towards you. Imean, that's a negative incident, right,
yeah, if I go write thatdown, why can't I just be
like a duck let her roll offmy back? Well, I mean some
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people have been known to hold onto anger. The yes, why can
I just bottle it up and rageuncontrollable at a later date? The Now
I know why this didn't make senseto me. Now, actually that's making
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a lot of sense. But waitso, but but what they were saying
is is that you're better off.You're you're I don't know how you're better
off though, but you're better offby shredding it so that it gets rid
of instead of bottling it up.Right, But but are you really bottled?
I mean, yes, there's somethings you bottle up. But they
said the physical act of it getsrid of it. It doesn't go away
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like let's say Diane a negative incidenttowards me. What is it, dude?
What would you do that would benegative towards me? You call me
a big fat pig? Right,And I'm like, well, you know
what, f you, Diane.I have to go to my desk and
write down Diane called me a bigfat pig, and I gotta shred it.
So does it force itself? Butit doesn't go away, be removed
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from the situation because I have togo shred it. Yeah? No,
no, Or is it just anextension of like, let's let's think before
we react, think before we react. No, because then Diane would have
to do it. Well, they'resaying he already did it? No,
no, no, what is thestimulus for this? Right, But she's
gonna keep doing it. They're sayingfor me that in order to not be
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angry, I should write it downand then shred it so it goes away.
Like that makes me forget. Well, maybe it's bad that Diane's also
clearly an angry person. Yeah,maybe I've known that for twenty five years
now. You've seen something go downthat upsets you, and instead of throwing
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yourself into the middle of it,you step back, right, down and
find a paper shredder. So everytime I see something in the office that
piss you off, is there atherapist? Well no, is there a
paper shredder? The no, no, But like, would a therapist tell
you this is smart? Or wecompletely misinterpreting it? Try it? Does
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anyone Kristen have a paper shudder?I can't hear you. Who did you
say? I don't know. Ican't hear there's a soundproof glass between she
and I. Okay, you shouldhave written that down. Oh hi,
Kristin, good morning. I amwell, thank you. What were you
saying about a paper shudder? There'sone? I don't remember what side of
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Aaron and Capoogie's office it is,but there's one over there. Well,
one side is salespeople. The otherside are part timers. Yeah, it's
on one of those sides. Isit portable? I think you plug it
in? But could we bring itin the sand? You can test this
out? Do you want to go? Look? I got nothing going on
all right? Yeah? Go ahead, put your shoes on. Yeah,
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I have to slip on on.Got forget your knife. You never know
who you meet in the hallway.The I'm gonna turn her microphone off in
there the But that's where I don'twait, So I have to what am
I writing down? Though I'm notmad at anything right now, I feel
like, just give it a second, stick your head out in the pit.
You'll overhear something. Oh dear,Oh wait, hold on, hold
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on, hold on? Am Istill on? Okay? Yes? So
as I was running out right,go ahead, Bianca said, what's Eric
doing? Oh? Do we needscissors for what? Yeah? Sure,
took him in the write that down. We need it. We need a
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shredder. So they had one,but now they take it. Took it
to shred to a community shred Ohthat's good, that's good for composting.
So I have to hold on myanger until there's a uh I'm sorry,
what christ have one at home?I just thought of that. You want
me to wait? No, Idon't. What if that's what Elliott's stack
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of papers all these years has actuallybeen the I write down all this stuff
that makes me angry. He's justwaiting for that community shredd and he keeps
missing them. Why do you weary? Fourth two thousand and one. Why
do you have a shredder at home? Well? I've been wanting one for
what to like shred like, well, we have one, we knew that.
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But why what are you shredding?Just I mean like angry things?
No, have you ever done thisbefore? Done with this person? Is
shredding? Do you think it wouldwork? You know what? My problem
is? My memory is too good? Yeah, meaning you can't forget stuff.
Yeah, how am I gonna forget? I'm gonna write down what makes
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me angry. But that's why it'ssuch a physical act of like Diana just
said, so that's let go.So that's the problem is that I don't
I don't know what it's like tolet it go because I've never gone through
the physical act of letting it go. So is this like a rage room?
This is very specific because you areI mean maybe some race rooms allow
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you to write someone's name. No, No, I just meant like,
I go in there and I'm madat somebody. It could be anybody.
I'm after you, you son ofa bitch, and I'm beating up typewriters
and all kinds of stuff. Wait, yes, Christen has her hand up.
I don't think this would work forme because I'm really big on confrontation.
So if I have a problem withyou. I'd rather talk to you
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face to face about it. Ifeel like that's mostly true, like somebody's
name on it. But I feellike that's mostly true. I don't feel
like that's all the way true,Like it's yes, I don't want to
get too in depth, but yes, i'd rather talk to the person about
it. Right, But you makeit sound like you're looking to pick a
fight, and that's not the case. No, because I can't. I
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will hold on to it if Ijust have to write it down on a
piece of paper. I'm like you, I don't think I can't forget it,
right, But but you haven't writtenit down and tried shredding it.
If you tried, what they're sayingis that extra step of shredding it.
If I understand it right, thatextra step of shredding it lets it go.
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So would it be the same aslike writing in a journal your thoughts
and everything and then shred the journaljournal, Yeah, the journalist to go
back and read. They don't wantyou to read this, They want you
to write it down right. Likeone of the examples, one of the
examples that I read said something likeand it was all it wasn't done for
real. They were using like proctorsand stuff. Is they had a bunch
of like Harvard people take take atest and they they and obviously they go
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to Harvard. They're they're very proudof the fact they went to Harvard.
They had the professors, even thoughthe professors were fake. Right back,
you didn't do you scored poorly.I thought you would have been of higher
intelligence being a student at Harvard.And that really pissed them off. And
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they wrote that down right. Butthen once they shredded it, like literally
shredded it, they felt better.That was one of the examples. But
I believe it was you said somethingearlier, earlier, just about a waste
paper basket or a garbage can,that you could throw it out. To
me, that doesn't work. Iknow, we want the sound of its
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shredding, and it feels more catharticbecause then you're really tearing it up.
I could take something out of thetrash and unwrinkle it. I do that
all the time. Nothing pathetic aboutthat. There's Elliott digging through the garbage
again. No, you know whatI mean? But like that to me,
isn't isn't final? Brian writes onX I saw this sold in a
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store where it was a box ofcards and each card came with a match,
and you would you were supposed towrite down negative things on these cards,
burn it and burn it smart,and there goes my house smart.
But that's by the way, youknow what that reminds me of. Didn't
they go through a thing saying thisgoes back aways? But didn't they go
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through a thing where they would say, like if you, if you went
through a bad breakup, burn allthe other person stuff. No, no,
it's not that, like like Stellagot her groove back or something.
I don't know, not like,oh, before Diane could come get her
stuff, I'm gonna burn out.But like if Diane got me a shirt,
or Diane got me a card thatI held on to, or something
that after Diane and I broke up, to really end the relationship, I
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would burn all of that stuff,the shirt, the card, whatever.
I don't know if that's from Stellagot her groove backed, But I feel
like that went around for a while. But I do wonder if we walked
out there into the pit with scratchpaper and handed each person their own sheet
and said, write something that iscurrently angering you on this, and then
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we told them we will eventually takethis to a community shred, but first
we need to read these things onthe air. Would just that removal out
of that space? Would they writethem down? Though? If they knew
that? It wasn't like everyone wasangry at the late arrival today? The
no, I mean, there's there'sso there's so many bad things that why
would that bother me? Not you? Oh? I mean it did,
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just there's it could just be somethingfleeting to This doesn't have to be I
know you love a grudge. I'mnot asking you to write down Jule's name.
This has to be like very inthe moment, in the moment,
in the moment, Well, there'snothing in the moment that I'm mad about.
Oh stop, okay, I meanI could come with a couple of
things. What okay, dine herehere, This is a scratch paper right
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here. I'd rather not use thatscratch my Jersey scratch paper. I'd rather
use the back of this. We'llget who's who's in the who's in the
pit? Well no, no,no, no, no, no,
that's dangerous. Why that's dangerous?Haley'll play along? No, I we
just we just used her for?What for the bouldering? Rock climbing and
bouldering. Well, she's the onlyone. They move the other one,
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but everyone's If she gets picked again, everyone's gonna write down Haley, I
use Oh Cruise. I thought ofCruise yesterday. I read a story about
somebody who got fillers in their butt. It was kind of half air and
half Cruise got fillers in their buttand then had to have just their butt
cheeks amputated like sha. That wouldbe Aaron's nightmare, just the butt cheeks
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amputae from dead ass to flat ass. All right, Cruise is here?
Yeah, who else? Why didn'tDiane just try it? Okay, well
get Cruise? No, I want, I want. They'll both do it,
but he has to he has toagree to allow you to read it.
Oh yeah, the community shred ishe common? But Diane's gonna play
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two right? Yeah? Hey,Cruse, how are you good? All
right, I'm gonna hand you apiece of paper, and Diane's gonna hand
you a pen. Please don't writeon the food here, Diane, here's
your piece of paper. Cruse.You were going to write down something that
and it doesn't have to be agrudge but something that's going on in just
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something right now that is angering you. Okay, okay, there you go.
Well, yeah, you gotta befair. I'm going to read.
Yeah, so this is something thatwill be public, is what you're saying.
Yeah, but but even if it'sabout somebody here, that's fine.
Like, no, what time didyou get to work today? I got
in just before nine? Right?Does it bother you that every other PD
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strolls in like nine thirty nine fortyfive? It doesn't, Okay, it
doesn't, all right, because thereare days that I come in potential.
All right, rite down, rightdown, what's angering you? And then
we'll take it to the community shred. And Diane's doing the same thing.
Yeah, you told me not todo it. By the food, No,
don't write on the food. Ohdamn it. The cardboard containers.
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He saves those for Jeff. Hesends them down to Florida to that publix.
All right, Jesus, Diane,what not only three words? Okay,
well not three things, just onethingphobia? All right, Cruise,
this is something that's angering you.I want to find out if this will
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make you feel better. Christ,But that's I think you missed the idea
leg injury. It is. I'vebeen dealing with it since December now,
but that's off. But that's notYeah, I had a huge and I
don't need the boot anymore. Turnsout the first doctor I saw, I
said, wear a boot. Thesecond doctor said, I don't know.
We don't wear a boot. That'snot helping. The first doctor said,
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give him the biggest one we had. But I don't think that's I don't
think that's right assignment. Yeah,yeah, No, it has to be
something in the moment that's anger.It's like he was listening to his own
station, not the I guarantee youhe wasn't the Does that make him angry?
Elliott? Why should? Okay,something did just anger me right before?
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Ok this is going to help youtrust him, trust him? Okay,
Diana. In the meantime, whatdid you write down? Okay?
What did you write right down?Okay? Dianne, Marley's irresponsible spending?
What do you want me to sayit's better than the boot? What is
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she spending? So we responsibly off? We just had to pay to have
her MacBook screen replaced because she brokeit right right, she knows she's going
to pay us back half of thatwhen she's working this summer. Okay,
she's home from school. Okay,she worked when she was home over spring
break, and she did get apaycheck, right, and she wanted to
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treat herself with said paycheck, right, and got acrylic nails, which was
like seventy five dollars by And I'mlike, that was like, what three
quarters of of your paycheck? Whatdo you care? Because she wanted to
treat herself. I'm like, lether treat herself because because then in the
same time, well, you know, I got to pay for that screen.
You know that bill's due. Good, then you better get your ask
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to work. Yeah, you knowhow my kid learned that. He finally
learned that ordering Chipotle to be deliveredis more expensive than go getting it.
Going to get then he didn't havemoney to get it. I was like,
well, you know what, youprobably have thirty more meals if you
didn't have it delivered all the time. Tough tit exactly. You know what
he does now when he wants somethingto eat, he goes to get it.
That's okay. Now we're back tocruise to Cruz right, Wait,
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did you write one down? BecauseI'm not putting much faith in what he's
written down to work out. Iwrote down to actually, oh, did
you really so if the first one'snot acceptable, we can just go to
the next one. Well, keepin mind this is actually two and three
all right. The first one justhappened like right before you called me in
EAS test during music. Yeah,so we came back from commercial not on
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this show. No, no,no, no, oh no, we
don't have to do EAS test.Well we got an EAS test like takeover,
like no one fires it, right, it just takes over the station,
right, And it was like atthe worst possible time, and I
threw my hands up and I yelledfor a second. Okay, all right,
that's fine, that's fine, veryimportant. I understand that. Though.
Are they really that does that passyour test? Get for you?
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No? No, because they Imean, honestly, it only affects the
lower rated stations. Is this theother one? Life? Is this the
other sweat and tears? Is thisthe other one taxes Jesus? Literally?
I got him back yesterday and Ilooked at the No one understands what No,
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It's supposed to be something that Tylerthe whole point to explain to him
Elliott was going to take it.And we don't have a shredder, but
he was going to rip it up. So you need Yeah, you're gonna
have to do taxes again, nexttest and the E A. S Test
and all of it, all ofthe boots, all of it. What's
Tyler's Okay, since I'm the onlyone who knows what we were doing,
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it's kind of unfair. But butI've written one down. They will definitely
work. Okay. I don't thinkthe instructions were clear. I just want
to be should have been listening WorldHunger. Rip it up, rip it
up? You know what? Actuallythose are my jersey Mike. Well,
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you know what. Sorry, peopleof Somalia. I was so close to
helping you, but I'm over it. I feel better. I got it
off my chest. I don't likeit. You know what? Right below
it, I'm putting war. Hey, will you add one for me?
Racism? You know that's always onmy list. That's different than xenophobia,
Diane, Yeah, no, that'sI'm good at that. No for scrabble,
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for scrabble, all right, verygood cruise. I'm glad you came
in. I'm glad you're right.Yeah, no, you feel better,
I do. I feel better,actually, sandwich, I'm good, thank
you, all right, very good, all right, let me do that.
Look at the way he's walking thatleg. It's like a miracle,
leap of fame. I don't knowwhat that first quack told him about having
to wear boo