EITM: Chicken On The Tube 4/15/24

But that doesn't mean you can't be into erotic asphyxiation!

Episode Transcript

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I don't even know what I'm lookingat. What zero chance? Zero chance?
Exactly. No to all of theprevious questions, Right, you've never
choked, you've never been asked,you've never asked somebody to choke you,
previous relationship. No, but he'syour wild card. I feel like my

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answer is more predictable than Diane's.Seriously, I wouldn't have even maybe it's
it's been asked of Diane or youknow, no one is bringing that up
with me, and I'm certainly random. Question. Come on, look at
me. I was reading over theweekend. Diane. If you had to

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guess percentage of people who are into, the number is gone up. I'll
tell you that in the last let'scall a decade, number of people who
have either been choked. And again, I'm not saying this in a bad
way. Let me be real clear. As long as both sides are cool

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with it, right, and bothsides know what they're doing, what they're
doing, and where it ends,knock yourself out, get after it.
Well, don't knock yourself out.No, no, well, don't pass
yourself out. Yes, per percentage, I'll say ten ten percent, yeah,
ten percent. As I say it, seems a little high, but

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you never know. That's I feellike to you, But I feel like
it's it's one of those kinks thatgets talked about quite a bit. So
I wonder if people are more aptto try it because they hadn't heard of
it or they were curious. Youknow, Okay, ten percent, but
you think that could be a littlehigh, but you're you're kind of shooting
high. Yeah, what if Itold you you were low and I wanted
you to guess again, I'll sayfifteen percent. That's a big jump.

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That is a big jump. Butit seems as though you're telling me that's
still low. Sixty six sixty sixpercent. Two thirds of people to it
or do it on a regular basis. I don't know that it gets I
don't know that it gets separated outlike that. What do we owe to

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this sort of like enormous growth inpopularity? Teenagers? Oh? Was it
in a show they watch? Yeah? On Euphoria. I mean, well
it is on Euphoria. They dopoint that out. Well, I guess
there was a like going way back. They point out some episode of Californication.
I have no idea, never sawit. I'm sorry. When was

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that show on television goes for twothousands. Maybe I have the wrong show.
That's the David du Cuffey one.Yeah, I don't see it.
I don't see it. Yeah,that premiere in two thousand and seven.
Yeah, okay, then that's it. So is that was that the seed

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that was planted? They were Idon't know if it's that you gets mentioned.
They mentioned a couple of other things, the porn, the general but
it's always been I porn. Hasit been in porn? I bet there's
a lot more of it, Butyeah, you can go all the way.
You can go back to the earlydays of porn, and there was
somebody getting choked. That's one ofthe major criticisms of pornography. What's that

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that it creates unrealistic expectations for whatI heard this a million times in my
life. You have Yeah, thenyou know what? Watch amateur porn?
Who told you this? You willalways hear that of like, oh,
it creates an unrealistic Do you watchamateur porn? I watch amateur porn from
time to time. Porn is nodifferent. It is in some cases it's

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they got bodies like mine. Thereare very few channels that present intimacy in
a way that properly educates the thevirginal crowd. Whatever gets me horny.
So some people may think that,like choking is a completely normal thing that

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everyone should expect goes on in thebedroom. According to sixty six percent of
people, it is. That's crazy. They were talking to. The researcher
was talking to a group of highschool students. Sixteen year old girl,
Why does every guy want to chokeme? Sixteen year old boy? Why

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does every girl ask me to chokeher? It is everywhere? And I'll
tell you what, Like that otherguy, I bet if I would have
asked, Adam, do you knowanybody that was into that in high school?
No, dude, if somebody wouldhave asked me that in high school,
I'd have been like, somebody's tryingto set me up to kill them.
We're at the cameras. But you'resaying it's miscommunication. What do you

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mean, No, they're actually veryopen about it. Well, you said
that. I felt like reading betweenthe lions there. You were saying that
the questions are asked, but there'salso this like expectation that just exists,
and not everyone maybe on the samepage. They just think you have to
do it. Oh, but Igive the credit. At least they're at

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least they're talking about it. Atleast they're asking first, hey do you
want to be choked? Or heywill you choke me? And you can
go both ways? It's not soabsolutely no, I'm telling you this.
One kid, the sixteen year oldkid, was like, why why does
every girl ask me to choke her? But Finch writes here, I've done
it to a guy before. Finch, has I've done it to a guy

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before? Oh? Yeah, no, I believe that it can go.
Oh yeah either way? Oh youcould? You can choke my chicken and
women chickens? Yeah? No,no, women can choke men. Absolutely
right. It didn't do anything forme, but he was super into it.
Finch choked a dude, according tothis message. Yeah, Finch,

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wouldn't you be worried that none,you're not doing it right and that you're
going to fully hurt the person?Well? I bet I wouldn't be doing
it enough now because I'd be soscared. Can you feel this? Are
you even touching me? I'm fixinga colar? No? No, but
I mean that's where that that tome, that's where the communication is great,

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is because you got to be ableto tap out. Yeah, but
okay, but the tapping. Butthere's I feel like there's a real small
window to where you're not doing enoughto bet that window. I bet that
window is a little I bet thatwindow is a little wider than you think.
I know, I bet it is, or you'd be hearing NonStop stories
of people dying getting choked out duringsex. You do sure of rough sex
deaths? Okay, yes, butif we're still calling it rough sex,

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see, but if it was Idon't like. I don't like referring to
this as rough sex. But ifit were, if if two thirds of
people are doing it, and thatthere were there were that many rough sex,
that that number would be higher.Wait, so does this now is
choking? Because it is clearly sopopular, is it? Has it escaped

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the rough sex label? Now peoplejust think, like, again, what
you're saying, Well, I don'tknow. I'm the wrong person to ask
the U. I'm so glad I'mdone with this the what's that sex?
No dating? Dating? Yeah?You know who lives at your house?

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Yeah? My wife? And wellyeah, trust me, I'm already considering
paying the subscription for like ethically sourcedporn for my children because I don't want
them going on porn hub. CanI go through it? M I'll go.
Let me go through and send youethically sourced porn. The Uh no,

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I'll tell you what I read thisfirst thing. I thought it was
my kid. Yeah, I getit. I wonder if he's choking away.
Oh God, I hope not.It's very normal. See. But
again, every you guys keep goinglike, uh uh, it's very normal.
Like if people are doing it.Yeah, if I said, oh,
they're having missionary, everybody'd be like, oh okay, this may be

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more normal than missionary. Stop.Now, two thirds of people are having
missionary. That is nobody's preference.It will not be in any of the
porn that I source. Where amI going? I can't tell between everybody's
a Hasidic jew? Hi, Ellieof the Morning, Hey is this me?

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Yeah? Hi? Who's this?This is Marie Virginia. You're into
it, aren't you. I'm hereto answer any questions you have. Elliott.
Are you how old? Marie?How old are you? I'm in
my young thirties, maybe maybe uppertwenty. Okay, so let's just say
you're thirty. How long how longhave you been into choking? I'd say

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five years? Five years? Whatgot you into it? A girlfriend asked
me to? Right? Okay,she said, Californicas. Okay. So
a girlfriend asked you to and youwere hesitant at first. It's awkward you
were nervous. No, No,it's you have the experienced Elliott. Has

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anyone ever asked you? No,they haven't. They haven't, which I'm
a little embarrassed to say, butyes, they have not. If someone
were, then you would know it'sa good feeling. Oh listen, two
thirds of people can't be wrong.All I'm saying is the first time you
choke someone, weren't you a littlebit nervous? I think if the trust

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is there, then everything else kindof follows. I trust Jackie with my
life, but I would be petrifiedwith her choking me because it's your life.
I re examine that trust level.Hey, let me ask you this.
Now. I understand you choked her, Has she choked you? Yes?
Are you two still together? Yes? Damn no? No, I

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mean good. But I was gonnasay, if let's let's pretend it doesn't
work out right, and I don'twish that on you. But let's pretend
it doesn't work out your next partner. Would you ask them to choke you?
Probably the other way? I readon more you would you would rather
do the choking than be the chokeyif I had to choose. Do you

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wish you would have started earlier?Yeah, of course if it feels good.
Oh, never mind, then noteenagers. I think twenties is right.
Well, I'm telling you it's startingin high school. Can you imagine
who I would have never I wouldhave never been that brazen in high school.
She's hit on some really important points. What's at effective communication? I

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said that they're talking about it,but that's not the case with your two
thirds number. The sixty seven percentof people didn't say, oh, yeah,
there was no pressure at all.Oh, but they didn't say there
was pressure, yes, but thereis no love that. There has to
be open communication the entire time.It's all discussed. There's there's safe everything.

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Do it safely or else don't doit at all. I agree.
I agree. There are many actsin the bedroom, and not just choking
that people can be pressured into becausethey either think everyone's doing it or that's
what my partner in this moment wantswow, who wh who? That's wronghold
O my god? The uh nono, but I'm glad that they're they're

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talking about it. Should they're gonnado it? You better talk about it.
It's like you said, you needopen communication. There's but it's unfair
to say that none of them arehaving open communication. That's unfair to say.
I can guarantee you those sixties people, they didn't all I'll argue that
pressure all of them. No,some of them, but I said some,
yeah, yeah, but some.I bet the numbers higher. Those

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that are communicating, I bet aremuch higher. I bet they are.
We would be so scared of itif we Well, you're scared of it
because you haven't done it. Youwere probably scared of pizza before you ate
it. Sometimes the pizza thing works, I don't know. But scared scared
of pizza, you should have pickedlike a sushi y hi yelliet in the

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morning. Hello, yeah, hello, yeah, Hi? Who's this is
this? Me? Yeah? Hi? Who are who are you? Good
morning? Gang? I'm I'm justgonna leave the location out of it,
but uh, all right, noproblem. Are you are you dating or
are you married? Uh? Engaged? Engaged. Oh, very good.

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And how how would you give mea rage a age range? Age range?
Uh, just like the one ofthe previous called her callers young young
thirty? All right, very goodchoking choking, well, sounds like it.
But what do you guys want toso I don't receive the choking.

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Uh, but you do it.I remember when we not as much anymore
as it's made me uncomfortable. It'sone night I had a scare. Oh
you went a little to me thatshe she well, yeah, she says
you like to pass out, anduh, let's just say she passed out.

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I was like, what the hell, I'm sorry. I don't know
if I'm want to say that,but you scared me. I stopped.
I lost all let's say I lostall blood circulation. Oh I bet Oh
by the way, oh my god, oh my god. I would go
as olymp as she did. Yes, of course, horse. Oh dude,

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I went completely limp and I thoughtI was scared. I thought I
was gone one one. Yeah,I was terrified. At the end of
the day. In the back ofyour head, you're the guy that did
it. Yes, absolutely, who'sgoing to is she do? Wake up?
There's no now let me ask youthis. There, do you do

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it anymore? Was that? Was? That? Was it? Like?
I can't do I can't do thisanymore. I couldn't do it anymore.
I told her straight up. Iwas like, I love you, but
I got you gotta respect my endof it. And she's completely cool with
it. And I even told herbefore I called. I was like,
I'm gonna call. She was like, why in front of everyone? The

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I got it. It's a greatI can't say it on the radio.
The no, no, no,but listen, I'm with you. That's
okay. I'm with you. Icouldn't do it either. I couldn't do
it either, Thank you, myfriend. And I wasn't even thinking of
somebody passing out right, m twothirds of people. You you're the odd

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ball. I'm okay with that.No, no, but I'm saying like
you you act like these are theodd balls. You're the odd ball.
You're the odd man out. Okay. What was the equivalent back in the
day choking? What was being donethat needed to be discussed ahead of time?

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And wahoo? No? That no? Is it? Is it?
Hickeys? Oh my god? No, couldn't just you couldn't just do that,
right, Yes you could, andno it had to hide him.
I feel exactly. I feel likesomeone could be really upset that you've maybe
marked him up, like yeah,yeah, but you never like you never

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went in on the neck. Youalways went in on the teeth. Okay,
people definitely did the neck, notSeguel, not segel. You never
saw somebody with a hickey morning.I never gave somebody a hickey on the
neck. Always on the always onthe bububs, right, but no hickeys.
I'm trying to think of something thatmaybe is similar. By the way,

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this is a quick tangent, andI know they're not hickeys. Did
anybody else notice the back of Ovechkin'sneck on Saturday? Yeah, Oh my
god, I think is that cup? Is it? It looked like cupping
but it was so so dark.Yeah, and Diane will never take her
shirt off and show us when shegets it done. Oh my god,
it's dark, like a real darkpurple. It was. It was like

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the best hickey giver in the world, maybe his wife, the best hickey
giver in the world, got ahold of his neck. I saw that.
It was like Jesus Christ, what'sgoing on? Back there. Oh,
yeah, it's definitely cupping. There'swhat it is. Yeah, but
there's pictures that go back of him, even to last year that showed that
I didn't know he was into coping. Yeah, dude, it is thick.
Anyway, back to choking or hickeys, what was it back in the

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day, I don't know, anddon't say, oh it was choking.
It's just not as forward as choking. No, no, no, no.
There's been a dramatic rise, Yes, a dramatic rise even since.
I mean every once in a whilewe've talked about chair pulling, and it
just becomes more and more party talkand dirty talk. The media reports on
it that way, dirty party talk, like graphic dirty talk. You think

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that is the same now, Ithink it's the talking dirty. Are you
even hurt feelings? Jesus Christ,Karen, I thought too. I thought
it was freaky Monday for a second. It's like, wait, you you're
me and I'm you now No,no, but would it would that have
been it? Like like graphic dirtytalk? If you're willing to accept that

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mental health is physical health, happy, I've ribbed off on you, Like
if I asked the single girls,well, any of the girls in the
pit. Would they say that theythat they've been choked? I think you've
learned this before, and I've saidlet's not go ask them. Ask Jen?
No, Jen's out there? Whywhy is that bad? Why is

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that bad? Just ask her she'sinto choke? But first ask if she's
filled out, then play survey becauseher answers may change. She can't if
it once it submitted, she can'tcall it back. Is she not out
there? She is? Look,even Christen's a little nervous. Ask her
why? Why would why is thatso bad? Because it's a professional setting.
It's also two thirds of people knowshe won't answer or she didn't fill

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out the survey yet, No,she's not into it. I mean I'll
bet on people on who's a chokerand who's not or is into it?
Yeah, whether they're on the thedo it or receive it part, I
would advise against that. Why andthey could be married, They don't have
to be dating, so it's notlike, oh, well it's only got

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to be Haley or Casey or Jamie. Well people on dating websites and apps,
will they put in profile stuff aboutoh that's a good question, that's
not something you put on a profile. Why not you wait until you have
swiped and have an ongoing dialogue withsomebody. Why. I don't know.

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Maybe people don't want to put thatout there. Again, you're the odd
ball. You think, Oh Iwouldn't put that on there. That looks
bad. You're the odd ball,you know. Hi, Ellie in the
morning, Hey, Hey, who'sthis? Hey. I'm not gonna say,
but what I will say is,so I'm forty one, recently divorced,

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and what I've done this is likeeverywhere, like I'm riding this whole
like Dad bought train with the youngerwomen, and everyone that I've been with
has been showed me, I meaneverything that they like. The only thing
I I can't come up with isthese younger people have like thrown up on
porn and that's what they see.Don't blame porn. They do all of

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it. Don't blame porn. Don'tblame porn. Porn. Porn's great,
Like there's no extinctions distinction. Imean, you know, it's yeah,
it's more of like you know,like people from my generation are like,
I'm not doing that. Let meask you this. So everybody, the
every younger girl that you're with islike, choke me please? Literally like,

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well, grab my hand and putit around their neck and do you
like, do you accommodate or doyou go and not my thing? Look
at my dad bod So at firstit was like no, now like I
can't go back. Oh so nowyou're into it doing the choking or being
choked both ways. Really, Idon't know why I'm saying it like that.

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You're the you're in the you're inthe majority, the overwhelming majority.
Try it. It's great. It'slike pizza. All right, very good,
very good, Thank you, myfai. By the way, I
would bet half the people if Idid a survey here in the office,
I would bet half the people thatyou were like, there is no way
they're into that, are there?I don't want to say you're the most

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aggressive, they're just being normal.Is there a slang or do do people
just say the sea word? Whatdo you mean? Is there like a
euphemism for it? What sea words? Like? He doesn't work for it?
Okay, choke? Oh that's bad? No? Are there other No,
it's not isn't bad. I'm justsaying, is there other ways it's
referred to? In no you gotto be direct in those settings. You
got to be direct, like,hey, are you into strangulation? But

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people sometimes use slang for body parts? Oh wahoo? Bung By the way,
he also is joking, is nota fan of receiving hickeys on his
nipples. Oh yeah, chest,don't get don't give me a hickey on
my neck please, I'm trying tothink that's what the boobs are for.
How awkward would I be if ifmy hands are placed on a neck?

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Like? How how I would getout of that? What do you mean
you would get out of it?Like if you were told no, no,
no? If if he said hishands were placed on the person's you
would you would treat it like,oh these are rats? But I kind
of like curl the hair? Whatwould I do? Don't stop there?
Let me see, let me seeyou. I think you would. I

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think you would run away, tryto choke Elliott. No, no,
no place. No. You wantme to place your hands on my yes?
Okay, you consent to this?Oh my god, I'm moving your
hands. What do you think?Here we go? You ready? He
won't even he won't even squeezing mywrists so tight? Right? Also,
how about my knee. My kneeis going to run your They were tribbing.

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Isn't this called tribbing? Isn't thata version I dripped over the weekend?
Tribbing? Isn't that It's a versionof scissoring? All right? Right
here? Oh, I know whatI don't I'll play with this ear lobes.
So I figured it out. Okay, now I know what you do
because the ear looks very sensitive.The not as as sensitive as my esophagus.

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Where am I going? Line seven? Hi? Yell in the morning?
Hi? Yeah, Hi? Who'sthis? Hi? I'm not going
to see my name because my motherlistens. How old? How old are
you? A little uncontract? That'stwenty four? Twenty four? Okay,
that's fine. Are you into choking? I am. I am more on

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the receiving end of it right overgiving it. But yeah, I would
would even say I didn't pick itup some porn or anything, thank you.
It was just something that kind ofeverybody's doing, and I was like,
okay, yeah, I'm kind ofinto it. And it's a really
big thing in like the buds ofcommunity, right, but I mean,

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it's it's it is. It hasventured so far out of that where it
is the norm at this point.Hey, you're twenty four. What age?
What age did you start choking?Probably like eighteen, so senior year
of high school or just out ofhigh school, senior year. There you

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go. I'm telling you it startsin high school. Hey, what is
the and you you said you'd ratherbe on the receiving end than the doing
end. Yes, well you soif you're if you the first time or
the first time you're getting intimate withsomebody or the second time, whatever it
is, who will you initiated andgo like, hey, you know I

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like to be choked Historically, Yes, that is how it has been.
Uh, my current partner that I'mwith loves choking, but doesn't like to
be choked all the time. I'ma little uncomfortable doing it to someone else,

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even though he said he's okay,it makes me uncomfortable. It's just
it's not as really, it's notexciting. Usually when he chokes me,
it's like right at cheese, Yep, I got it, I got it,
I got I can fill in theblack. Now I have a question
for you. You said you didn'twant to say anything because you know your

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mom lessons. Yeah, why whydo you think you think it would bother
your mom to know that her daughterenjoys choking. No, honestly, she
probably does not care. I'm sureshe is husband into into words. Uh

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yeah, I have a very uniquename too, so I'm not sure.
Okay, that's fine. No,No, I was just I mean,
it's just so calm, and it'sweird, like it would be like if
you were ashamed that your mom heardyou talking about missionary you know what I
mean? What is the the isyour mom? Is your mom married?
No? She is not. Iis she dating? Is she dating?

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Not that I know of. Iwant you and your mom to have a
conversation about enjoying choking. Oh god, oh my god. That is so
funny. If she's listening this morning, because then I'm sure she can.
She probably recognizes my voice. Right, I'll definitely let you know if I
if I have a conversation. Pleasedo, please do please do. All

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right, very good, very good, thank you, thank you? Bye.
Yep, mh. I mean listen, I can tell you this.
All of Marley's friends are doing it. Okay, I'm not telling you.
All of Marley's friends are doing it, they said Laura writes on Facebook.

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Plenty of people also do stupid challengeslike tide pods. Sixty six percent of
people don't eat tide pods. That'sridiculous Wahoo. So I think Laura's point,
though, is that even though somethingmay be reported on, or written
about or surveyed on, it doesn'tnecessarily you have to be doing it.

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No, no, listen, youdon't have to be doing anything. Anything
that you don't want to do.Don't do even if it is I mean,
essentially the most common thing in theworld. But it's just Christen before
Mike. Nope, no, there'sno time period before Mike. She's saying

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that Latin guy. Forget it.No, but it's very common. But
if you're uncomfortable, don't do it. One of the most important places to
feel safe is in the Wahoo settings, like yes, of course, of
course I would. I would saythat for any activity hickeys, where do

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they go? Diane Boobs