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Carlos, and Carlos was like oneof the night guys who was like a
part timer doing nights at the radiostation. Ever since they move some things
around when Roach got fired. Soanyway, Carlos was one of the guys
doing nights right, and so wehad learned through like postings and stuff.
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I don't need to rehash the wholething, but Carlos had a hell of
a party in here on Wednesday night. Like I saw Carlos when I came
into work yesterday morning. At whatyou said, and so I saw him
and he had a couple of friendswith him. No big deal. I
don't know what's going on. Soanyway, turns out and that was yesterday.
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How we got into it was wewere betting on weather or not dusting.
The program director knew, and welearned the answer was no, he
had no idea, He had noclue, which was very ballzy on Carlos's
part to to throw like there wasa DJ in the hallway, There was
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a tattoo artist who came in togive Carlos a tattoo. And I don't
know if any of the other friends, but there was a crap ton of
people up here which again part timer, very very ballsy, very ballsy,
and Dustin had no idea, andyou lost a bet I did because I
bet. Of course he did.Of course he knew who. Boy was
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I wrong? And then remember Dustinwouldn't talk yesterday, right, I don't
want to discuss it. I don'twant to discuss it. I don't want
to discuss it. And then Iwas like, okay, who told who
narked? Who told him? Likethe whole thing is, I don't want
to discuss it. I don't wantto discuss it. Well, I have
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some I have some bad news andI have some good news, which order
makes the most sense. Bad news, okay, bad news first, Carlos
was let go yesterday. But there'sgood news, yes, Carlos Yo,
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first time caller, a long timelistener. What's up? Hey? What's
going on? Dude? How areyou? I'm doing all right? No
complain so far yourself? Okay,you got fired yesterday, Carlos. I
should probably complain about that. Hey, So let me ask you this.
When I saw you on and youwere kind, you offered me a cupcake.
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When I saw you yesterday, Ihad no idea what had gone on
here? Wednesday night at all.Yeah, that was kind of the idea
from the jump. To be honestwith you, it was. It was
a calculated risk I took that night. I gotta tell you, look at
listen. Here, here's the deal. Here's the deal. I gotta tell
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you. I grew up listening aradio out of like a little d Walt
radio thing. You know what I'mtalking about. You go home, people,
you see one of these d Waltradios. Right, That's where I
grew up with the radio. Right. I was sitting like in the basement
of a half constructed house growing up, listening to the likes of like you
remember when Paine with the night Jockat Hot and then they switched over to
eb I don't know, thirteen yearold me used to love that crap,
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Like, I don't know, itjust felt like a party. So in
my brain, I don't know,it was what I thought radio was supposed
to be when I was growing up, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I just wanted to be a littledifferent, wanted to stand down a
little bit. Like I said,it was a calculated risk. Sometimes you
take an hell every now and again, right, Well, you definitely took
an l Now, let me askyou this, Let me ask you this
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the and at any point, atany point and be honest with me.
At any point, did you go, you know what, maybe I should
run this by Dustin or were youlike, if I run it by him,
I don't there's a chance, hesays no, So I'd rather just
do it and ask for forgiveness.Uh, you know what, it crossed
my mind. It was very brief, but yeah, you know, ask
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for forgiveness, not for permission.I kind of dig that sometimes the creativity
gets uh the legs chopped off fromunder, and I kind of didn't want
that to happen. And yeah,did you get an opportunity to ask for
forgiveness? No, dude, Anyconversation was quite short, which is,
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you know, respectable. You gotto be a professional short sweep to the
point, tipe deal. Basically,what was on the air yesterday is kind
of our phone call went okay,man't talk about it. No, that
was your last show, and thatwas okay, Wait a minute, So
when he called you, wait,at what time did you talk to him?
Oh? Man? I opened myeyes around like one twelve forty five
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or so, and so I mustto call it right before one o'clock now,
will I will apologize. I willapologize on Christen's behalf because I think
we tried to call you about onehundred times during the show yesterday. That's
totally fine. Every now and again, I follow asleep on top of my
phone, you know what I'm talkingabout. So that was probably vibrating under
my butt all night and I didn'teven notice it all morning. Rather right,
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that's okay. So anyway, soyou called Dustin and Dustin the PD
and he answers and you're like,hey, what's going on? Yep,
Well, had he left you amessage already? Again? Had he already
left you a message to call him? Yeah? I think it goes through
a text. I like opened myeyes and saw text. I was like,
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yo, call me, and Iwas like, oh, what cool?
You want to talk because you know, we rarely talked, So yeah,
I was kind of excited. Halfof me was expecting something like that
was insane. Never do it againever in your life if you want to
live. But yeah, now itwas a little worse than that. So
you call him and he and he'slike, hey, you're fired. Well
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he didn't even say that, hejust said that that was your last shift.
Uh yeah, that was basically I'mnot a few words, Dustin is
as far as I've I've known them, but then again, not too much
interaction, so he didn't like hedidn't say like yeft up or anything.
Yeah, No, it was reallyreally quick, Like I mean, I
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kind of wanted to talk about itlong form because there were there was no
don't know, there was some therewere some monetary plans in the future,
like I was. This was Iwas kind of like hoping that this would
be a small scale version of somethingthat we could have done altogether as as
a station. Like I was,Like I said, I was calculated with
who was in the room, LikeI got friends that are all comics and
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musicians and this, that and theother from around DC here locally, and
frankly, I want to I washoping to kind of do some big a
little different with radio moving forward inthe sense where we kind of focus more
on what's going on locally, reallyinteract with the community a whole lot,
and see how we could build acrowd through that. You know, you
mentioned Nielsen yesterday and I was like, well, hey, maybe we start
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doing something creative, local creatives,maybe some uh some numbers might go up,
maybe some ratings. Absolutely so,so that was the so the big
the plan was it was Thawn outright. So the plan was like,
well, we'll have them in hereand we'll we'll kind of. It wasn't
just Carlos is out of control andhe's getting a tattoo and everybody's up here
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drinking. Absolutely not. First off, like you should have seen the paragraph
long thing that I sent all thesepeople, Like I said, these all
folks that are used to being ona stage. That's the thing. There
was like a drag king, therewas a couple of comics. There was
like a local metal band, andI was like, listen, you're not
getting me fired because somebody decided theywanted to say an F bomb or something
like it. Myself, I'll getmyself fired exactly. Yeah, if anybody's
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gonna get get myself fired, it'sgonna be me, damn it. But
now, but you didn't have achance to explain any of that to Dustin.
No, And you know what,I get it, I totally get
it. He had to make adecision. I'm sure he had pressure from
others for for for I'm sure someof the reasons that you all discussed yesterday.
I will say, by the way, the whole you know, music
playing through and maybe that would havemessed up a license. Everything was all
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sorts of chopped up in E dM, like like there is nothing that
was like we were playing random songsin the back. Well I guess it
kind of was. It's like itwas beats though it was. It was
nothing that could have been like,oh you played such and such now it
was just with like digital sounds overit, like I don't know, oh
yes, Oh they couldn't care.How bunch of dio with tattoos, we
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just didn't take pictures. Wait saythat again, Say that again. Also
a bunch of people too got thetattoos, just a few of them didn't
take pictures. Uht tato. Wellthat kind of that kind of sucks that
you didn't get to try to explainthe dust and what your what your thing
was. Yeah, such as lifethough, I mean that's how it happens
sometimes. Uh, you don't alwaysget to explain your actions to people.
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And that's why all sorts of communicationshappened throughout the world all the time.
So the so you're not you're notyou're not angry. You're not disappoint did
You're not mad? No? No, I get the grind. I know
how radio works. One day youcan you can have the job. One
day you can't. Amen. Yeah, I mean listen, they could get
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mad at me for talking to you. Today could be my last day.
That that that I hope not.God, I hope not. I'm listening
to you since since I was alad. Hey, let me ask you
this the night, during the night, while everything was going on, during
the party. I don't know whatelse to call it, your hift during
your show. It was a show. It was a show. Think of
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that like a show. Yeah,it was a quote party, but it
was a theater of the mine exactlyexactly? Are we are a station of
legacy jocks? Like how it stood, I'm the graceman. I was trying
to do something a little different,you know what I mean? That's all
it was. And now did Dustincall you during the show and go,
hey, Carlos, what the F? You know what? H I'm not
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positive To be honest, I wasstaring at the hotline, Like I said,
I was in and out of thestudio, but every time I was
in there in my eyes were likejumping to the caller, because first off,
I was hoping to get calls.I didn't see anything, but you
know, uh, it's possible thatlike maybe he called when when I wasn't
looking, because you know how thephones just kind of blink, they don't
ring, because right and I hadmy phone on my hand, so you
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know, I was kind of hopingfor a text, but I don't I
don't think so I could be wrongthough. Well I was gonna say,
even if he called the hotline andnobody answered, he would have texted you
were called your phone, yeah that'syeah, yeah, but I will So
I was under the impression, like, don't you have a good relationship with
Dustin? Well, that's the thingbeing a part timer and having as many
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jobs as I do. I'm notin I'm not over at Rockville very often,
so it's not the most it was. It was never a close relationship
as it were. You know whatI'm saying. We were now getting beers
after after any ships as it were. Well, consider yourself lucky like that
that you're that you should be goodwith ball. So now so what do
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we So what do we do now? Like did Dustin like leave Lee return
open no, no, I don'tthink so. I could try to log
into my email right now when youfind out, Oh do it? Do
it that? That's that's the onething I heeart gets right. You get
fired, you are out of that, out of the email. You are
out of the email. Oh that'sright. Oh no, dude, your
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account has been locked. Contact yoursupport person. Yeah, there was a
time I was there for about ayear. You know what, I checked
off one of my dream jobs.I'm okay with that, man. I
had a great time, still havinga great time. I'm on Elliott for
goodness sakes, I'm good any partingwords for Dustin for Dustin, dude,
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if he still wants me on thejob, I will buy him. I
don't know what's his favorite thing todrink or to do. I'll get something
that for his puffer? Is itNick? What's what's the dog? Man?
Oh? God, Nicholas, allValentie, that just cost you your
ability to come back. You haveto know the full name of the dog.
Oh goodness, gracious, I bethe doesn't even know I have a
cat. Come on now, no, he doesn't. He doesn't care.
He cares though, that you knowthe full name of his dog. What
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kind of dog is it? Even? That's a French bulldog. Boy,
you are strike. It's two strikes, carlos Hey, I'm an American.
When he gets an American dog,that's what I'll deal with. All right.
Well, listen, you cost me. You cost me a bet yesterday,
but it cost you a job,so we both lost yesterday. That's
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all right. Life is life.I got a couple other jobs in my
back pockets, so hopefully I don'tthrow any parties over there. All right,
dude, all right, best ofluck, carlos Hey, thanks so
much. I have an amazing morningeverybody, and thanks for letting me be
on the air for a while.Hey, you got it. We'll talk
to you later. Dog get tosee you. Bye, great spirits for
real. I'm angry why I wantedit to lead with that mother effort?
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If it hate him, He's apiece of gold garbage. Not what I
wanted. Kristen, Did you haveyour eye on the hotline? Did you
get a text message or that?No? From Oh? From Dustin?
Oh? I bet that heart sank. Yeah, I'm shocked about what you
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said. He got fired Yeah,no, being up beat. He didn't
have to be fired. Elliott's hedidn't have to be fired the no.
I liked his explanation as to whatwent on. I thought that was great.
What he's because he's calling on thehistory of the format. Yeah.
Yeah, like let's let's do somethinga little different, let's have a little
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bit of fun. Yeah, hesay, took a chance at backfired,
calculated yeah, yeah, calculated risk. Yeah, and he took it out.
That's all right. You live andyou learn, and maybe he'll be
able to apply that to I thoughthe only had one other job. I
didn't know there were there's a couplein the works. Yeah, no,
no, that's great. I couldnot be more disappointed because he didn't go
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off. That's the only reason youhad him. I thought you would get
his side. Well no, Iokay, it was twofold. I wanted
his side. Yeah, that's ab A was. I wanted him to
go off because I know what Elliottwould have done. I would have gone
Maybe in the back of his headhe's thinking like that, or he genuinely
he genuinely feels as he expressed himself, and he and maybe doesn't think every
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word he said, yeah, yeah, but doesn't doesn't think that, you
know, what what good is itgoing to do me? That could impact
me in my other employment? Oh? He ain't thinking that for it.
No, because if somebody thinks you'rea loose cannon, they're going to keep
an eye on you. Now that'sa good point. That's a good point.
Yeah. So but you know what, now I feel bad for Carlos.
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You never see someone lose their joband feel good about it. I
feel like they've done something but callsfor termination. It's not true. I've
seen a lot of people lose theirjobs and I've been very happy about it.
But did they do something that likewarranted the firing. I can answer
that in three ways, Like theylike an individual act yes, uh,
just a ongoing behavioral thing, yes, And I just don't like that person,
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right, So those were the threethat Yeah, and if it's if
it's somebody I don't like, Yeah, I've also danced on people's and planet
grapes. Don't be a dick,simple. I noticed the You didn't take
the opportunity to apologize to Carlos forwhat? For narking? I didn't ark
We know who the narc was at. It's hard when you put stuff all
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over your social a lot of theresponse was man Elliott's a nark the no
no, no no called Dustin?The say again because you called Dustin.
I did find out how Dustin foundout. But this is obviously yes,
everybody, I didn't know this aheadof time. One listening who was quite
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confused, it seems like yesterday,Okay, I get it as the seving
went on, because they thought Dustinwas Carlos's producer, which I loved.
No, but they thought you werethe first person to tell Dustin. Oh,
I know that's not true. Iknow that now. I didn't know
that yesterday. But I also knewDustin would find out, but he already
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knew he did. He did,yes, yes, So I joke about
you because he saw it online fromCarlos. Carlos did not try He did
it on the air. Carlos wasnot trying to hide in you. You're
on the air and your mind.My only my only thing was whether or
not Dustin new and I said yes, But Dustin didn't know until the morning,
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but it was before we talked toit. And when you say Dustin
knew, you don't mean you meandid he know ahead of town that he
knew what Carlos was going to beplanning to do yeah, but no,
Dustin had no idea until he wokeup yesterday morning and saw it on line.
And the second Carlos picked up hisphone to talk to Kristen. Then
you answered a question you asked verylate in the interview. Is the door
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open to come back? Right?I feel like if that's ever a possibility,
you are told, do not callin to the morning show tomorrow,
asked John Ballora. Well, Ido wish, though, for Carlos's sake,
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I do wish that Dustin would havehad a conversation with him. It's
best to keep it brief. Iunderstand that you may want that as a
fired employee, but you can getyourself into trouble as a manager if you
carry on too long. I understandthat, right, No, but that's
why they normally. I'm surprised theyhad Dustin do it, because normally that's
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hr because they don't want a PDsales manager, a disc jockey to say
something that could backfire. The nightshift producer the HM hmm, all right,
well that's uh well, two badcard Loves people wanted the update,
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and there you got it. Yeah, there you got it
Carlos, and Carlos was like oneof the night guys who was like a
part timer doing nights at the radiostation. Ever since they move some things
around when Roach got fired. Soanyway, Carlos was one of the guys
doing nights right, and so wehad learned through like postings and stuff.
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I don't need to rehash the wholething, but Carlos had a hell of
a party in here on Wednesday night. Like I saw Carlos when I came
into work yesterday morning. At whatyou said, and so I saw him
and he had a couple of friendswith him. No big deal. I
don't know what's going on. Soanyway, turns out and that was yesterday.
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How we got into it was wewere betting on weather or not dusting.
The program director knew, and welearned the answer was no, he
had no idea, He had noclue, which was very ballzy on Carlos's
part to to throw like there wasa DJ in the hallway, There was
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a tattoo artist who came in togive Carlos a tattoo. And I don't
know if any of the other friends, but there was a crap ton of
people up here which again part timer, very very ballsy, very ballsy,
and Dustin had no idea, andyou lost a bet I did because I
bet. Of course he did.Of course he knew who. Boy was
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I wrong? And then remember Dustinwouldn't talk yesterday, right, I don't
want to discuss it. I don'twant to discuss it. I don't want
to discuss it. And then Iwas like, okay, who told who
narked? Who told him? Likethe whole thing is, I don't want
to discuss it. I don't wantto discuss it. Well, I have
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some I have some bad news andI have some good news, which order
makes the most sense. Bad news, okay, bad news first, Carlos
was let go yesterday. But there'sgood news, yes, Carlos Yo,
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first time caller, a long timelistener. What's up? Hey? What's
going on? Dude? How areyou? I'm doing all right? No
complain so far yourself? Okay,you got fired yesterday, Carlos. I
should probably complain about that. Hey, So let me ask you this.
When I saw you on and youwere kind, you offered me a cupcake.
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When I saw you yesterday, Ihad no idea what had gone on
here? Wednesday night at all.Yeah, that was kind of the idea
from the jump. To be honestwith you, it was. It was
a calculated risk I took that night. I gotta tell you, look at
listen. Here, here's the deal. Here's the deal. I gotta tell
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you. I grew up listening aradio out of like a little d Walt
radio thing. You know what I'mtalking about. You go home, people,
you see one of these d Waltradios. Right, That's where I
grew up with the radio. Right. I was sitting like in the basement
of a half constructed house growing up, listening to the likes of like you
remember when Paine with the night Jockat Hot and then they switched over to
eb I don't know, thirteen yearold me used to love that crap,
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Like, I don't know, itjust felt like a party. So in
my brain, I don't know,it was what I thought radio was supposed
to be when I was growing up, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I just wanted to be a littledifferent, wanted to stand down a
little bit. Like I said,it was a calculated risk. Sometimes you
take an hell every now and again, right, Well, you definitely took
an l Now, let me askyou this, Let me ask you this
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the and at any point, atany point and be honest with me.
At any point, did you go, you know what, maybe I should
run this by Dustin or were youlike, if I run it by him,
I don't there's a chance, hesays no, So I'd rather just
do it and ask for forgiveness.Uh, you know what, it crossed
my mind. It was very brief, but yeah, you know, ask
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for forgiveness, not for permission.I kind of dig that sometimes the creativity
gets uh the legs chopped off fromunder, and I kind of didn't want
that to happen. And yeah,did you get an opportunity to ask for
forgiveness? No, dude, Anyconversation was quite short, which is,
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you know, respectable. You gotto be a professional short sweep to the
point, tipe deal. Basically,what was on the air yesterday is kind
of our phone call went okay,man't talk about it. No, that
was your last show, and thatwas okay, Wait a minute, So
when he called you, wait,at what time did you talk to him?
Oh? Man? I opened myeyes around like one twelve forty five
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or so, and so I mustto call it right before one o'clock now,
will I will apologize. I willapologize on Christen's behalf because I think
we tried to call you about onehundred times during the show yesterday. That's
totally fine. Every now and again, I follow asleep on top of my
phone, you know what I'm talkingabout. So that was probably vibrating under
my butt all night and I didn'teven notice it all morning. Rather right,
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that's okay. So anyway, soyou called Dustin and Dustin the PD
and he answers and you're like,hey, what's going on? Yep,
Well, had he left you amessage already? Again? Had he already
left you a message to call him? Yeah? I think it goes through
a text. I like opened myeyes and saw text. I was like,
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yo, call me, and Iwas like, oh, what cool?
You want to talk because you know, we rarely talked, So yeah,
I was kind of excited. Halfof me was expecting something like that
was insane. Never do it againever in your life if you want to
live. But yeah, now itwas a little worse than that. So
you call him and he and he'slike, hey, you're fired. Well
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he didn't even say that, hejust said that that was your last shift.
Uh yeah, that was basically I'mnot a few words, Dustin is
as far as I've I've known them, but then again, not too much
interaction, so he didn't like hedidn't say like yeft up or anything.
Yeah, No, it was reallyreally quick, Like I mean, I
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kind of wanted to talk about itlong form because there were there was no
don't know, there was some therewere some monetary plans in the future,
like I was. This was Iwas kind of like hoping that this would
be a small scale version of somethingthat we could have done altogether as as
a station. Like I was,Like I said, I was calculated with
who was in the room, LikeI got friends that are all comics and
(06:39):
musicians and this, that and theother from around DC here locally, and
frankly, I want to I washoping to kind of do some big a
little different with radio moving forward inthe sense where we kind of focus more
on what's going on locally, reallyinteract with the community a whole lot,
and see how we could build acrowd through that. You know, you
mentioned Nielsen yesterday and I was like, well, hey, maybe we start
(07:00):
doing something creative, local creatives,maybe some uh some numbers might go up,
maybe some ratings. Absolutely so,so that was the so the big
the plan was it was Thawn outright. So the plan was like,
well, we'll have them in hereand we'll we'll kind of. It wasn't
just Carlos is out of control andhe's getting a tattoo and everybody's up here
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drinking. Absolutely not. First off, like you should have seen the paragraph
long thing that I sent all thesepeople, Like I said, these all
folks that are used to being ona stage. That's the thing. There
was like a drag king, therewas a couple of comics. There was
like a local metal band, andI was like, listen, you're not
getting me fired because somebody decided theywanted to say an F bomb or something
like it. Myself, I'll getmyself fired exactly. Yeah, if anybody's
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gonna get get myself fired, it'sgonna be me, damn it. But
now, but you didn't have achance to explain any of that to Dustin.
No, And you know what,I get it, I totally get
it. He had to make adecision. I'm sure he had pressure from
others for for for I'm sure someof the reasons that you all discussed yesterday.
I will say, by the way, the whole you know, music
playing through and maybe that would havemessed up a license. Everything was all
(08:07):
sorts of chopped up in E dM, like like there is nothing that
was like we were playing random songsin the back. Well I guess it
kind of was. It's like itwas beats though it was. It was
nothing that could have been like,oh you played such and such now it
was just with like digital sounds overit, like I don't know, oh
yes, Oh they couldn't care.How bunch of dio with tattoos, we
(08:28):
just didn't take pictures. Wait saythat again, Say that again. Also
a bunch of people too got thetattoos, just a few of them didn't
take pictures. Uht tato. Wellthat kind of that kind of sucks that
you didn't get to try to explainthe dust and what your what your thing
was. Yeah, such as lifethough, I mean that's how it happens
sometimes. Uh, you don't alwaysget to explain your actions to people.
(08:50):
And that's why all sorts of communicationshappened throughout the world all the time.
So the so you're not you're notyou're not angry. You're not disappoint did
You're not mad? No? No, I get the grind. I know
how radio works. One day youcan you can have the job. One
day you can't. Amen. Yeah, I mean listen, they could get
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mad at me for talking to you. Today could be my last day.
That that that I hope not.God, I hope not. I'm listening
to you since since I was alad. Hey, let me ask you
this the night, during the night, while everything was going on, during
the party. I don't know whatelse to call it, your hift during
your show. It was a show. It was a show. Think of
(09:31):
that like a show. Yeah,it was a quote party, but it
was a theater of the mine exactlyexactly? Are we are a station of
legacy jocks? Like how it stood, I'm the graceman. I was trying
to do something a little different,you know what I mean? That's all
it was. And now did Dustincall you during the show and go,
hey, Carlos, what the F? You know what? H I'm not
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positive To be honest, I wasstaring at the hotline, Like I said,
I was in and out of thestudio, but every time I was
in there in my eyes were likejumping to the caller, because first off,
I was hoping to get calls.I didn't see anything, but you
know, uh, it's possible thatlike maybe he called when when I wasn't
looking, because you know how thephones just kind of blink, they don't
ring, because right and I hadmy phone on my hand, so you
(10:15):
know, I was kind of hopingfor a text, but I don't I
don't think so I could be wrongthough. Well I was gonna say,
even if he called the hotline andnobody answered, he would have texted you
were called your phone, yeah that'syeah, yeah, but I will So
I was under the impression, like, don't you have a good relationship with
Dustin? Well, that's the thingbeing a part timer and having as many
(10:35):
jobs as I do. I'm notin I'm not over at Rockville very often,
so it's not the most it was. It was never a close relationship
as it were. You know whatI'm saying. We were now getting beers
after after any ships as it were. Well, consider yourself lucky like that
that you're that you should be goodwith ball. So now so what do
(10:56):
we So what do we do now? Like did Dustin like leave Lee return
open no, no, I don'tthink so. I could try to log
into my email right now when youfind out, Oh do it? Do
it that? That's that's the onething I heeart gets right. You get
fired, you are out of that, out of the email. You are
out of the email. Oh that'sright. Oh no, dude, your
(11:24):
account has been locked. Contact yoursupport person. Yeah, there was a
time I was there for about ayear. You know what, I checked
off one of my dream jobs.I'm okay with that, man. I
had a great time, still havinga great time. I'm on Elliott for
goodness sakes, I'm good any partingwords for Dustin for Dustin, dude,
(11:46):
if he still wants me on thejob, I will buy him. I
don't know what's his favorite thing todrink or to do. I'll get something
that for his puffer? Is itNick? What's what's the dog? Man?
Oh? God, Nicholas, allValentie, that just cost you your
ability to come back. You haveto know the full name of the dog.
Oh goodness, gracious, I bethe doesn't even know I have a
cat. Come on now, no, he doesn't. He doesn't care.
He cares though, that you knowthe full name of his dog. What
(12:09):
kind of dog is it? Even? That's a French bulldog. Boy,
you are strike. It's two strikes, carlos Hey, I'm an American.
When he gets an American dog,that's what I'll deal with. All right.
Well, listen, you cost me. You cost me a bet yesterday,
but it cost you a job,so we both lost yesterday. That's
(12:30):
all right. Life is life.I got a couple other jobs in my
back pockets, so hopefully I don'tthrow any parties over there. All right,
dude, all right, best ofluck, carlos Hey, thanks so
much. I have an amazing morningeverybody, and thanks for letting me be
on the air for a while.Hey, you got it. We'll talk
to you later. Dog get tosee you. Bye, great spirits for
real. I'm angry why I wantedit to lead with that mother effort?
(12:56):
If it hate him, He's apiece of gold garbage. Not what I
wanted. Kristen, Did you haveyour eye on the hotline? Did you
get a text message or that?No? From Oh? From Dustin?
Oh? I bet that heart sank. Yeah, I'm shocked about what you
(13:20):
said. He got fired Yeah,no, being up beat. He didn't
have to be fired. Elliott's hedidn't have to be fired the no.
I liked his explanation as to whatwent on. I thought that was great.
What he's because he's calling on thehistory of the format. Yeah.
Yeah, like let's let's do somethinga little different, let's have a little
(13:43):
bit of fun. Yeah, hesay, took a chance at backfired,
calculated yeah, yeah, calculated risk. Yeah, and he took it out.
That's all right. You live andyou learn, and maybe he'll be
able to apply that to I thoughthe only had one other job. I
didn't know there were there's a couplein the works. Yeah, no,
no, that's great. I couldnot be more disappointed because he didn't go
(14:09):
off. That's the only reason youhad him. I thought you would get
his side. Well no, Iokay, it was twofold. I wanted
his side. Yeah, that's ab A was. I wanted him to
go off because I know what Elliottwould have done. I would have gone
Maybe in the back of his headhe's thinking like that, or he genuinely
he genuinely feels as he expressed himself, and he and maybe doesn't think every
(14:33):
word he said, yeah, yeah, but doesn't doesn't think that, you
know, what what good is itgoing to do me? That could impact
me in my other employment? Oh? He ain't thinking that for it.
No, because if somebody thinks you'rea loose cannon, they're going to keep
an eye on you. Now that'sa good point. That's a good point.
Yeah. So but you know what, now I feel bad for Carlos.
(14:54):
You never see someone lose their joband feel good about it. I
feel like they've done something but callsfor termination. It's not true. I've
seen a lot of people lose theirjobs and I've been very happy about it.
But did they do something that likewarranted the firing. I can answer
that in three ways, Like theylike an individual act yes, uh,
just a ongoing behavioral thing, yes, And I just don't like that person,
(15:18):
right, So those were the threethat Yeah, and if it's if
it's somebody I don't like, Yeah, I've also danced on people's and planet
grapes. Don't be a dick,simple. I noticed the You didn't take
the opportunity to apologize to Carlos forwhat? For narking? I didn't ark
We know who the narc was at. It's hard when you put stuff all
(15:41):
over your social a lot of theresponse was man Elliott's a nark the no
no, no no called Dustin?The say again because you called Dustin.
I did find out how Dustin foundout. But this is obviously yes,
everybody, I didn't know this aheadof time. One listening who was quite
(16:02):
confused, it seems like yesterday,Okay, I get it as the seving
went on, because they thought Dustinwas Carlos's producer, which I loved.
No, but they thought you werethe first person to tell Dustin. Oh,
I know that's not true. Iknow that now. I didn't know
that yesterday. But I also knewDustin would find out, but he already
(16:22):
knew he did. He did,yes, yes, So I joke about
you because he saw it online fromCarlos. Carlos did not try He did
it on the air. Carlos wasnot trying to hide in you. You're
on the air and your mind.My only my only thing was whether or
not Dustin new and I said yes, But Dustin didn't know until the morning,
(16:45):
but it was before we talked toit. And when you say Dustin
knew, you don't mean you meandid he know ahead of town that he
knew what Carlos was going to beplanning to do yeah, but no,
Dustin had no idea until he wokeup yesterday morning and saw it on line.
And the second Carlos picked up hisphone to talk to Kristen. Then
you answered a question you asked verylate in the interview. Is the door
(17:08):
open to come back? Right?I feel like if that's ever a possibility,
you are told, do not callin to the morning show tomorrow,
asked John Ballora. Well, Ido wish, though, for Carlos's sake,
(17:34):
I do wish that Dustin would havehad a conversation with him. It's
best to keep it brief. Iunderstand that you may want that as a
fired employee, but you can getyourself into trouble as a manager if you
carry on too long. I understandthat, right, No, but that's
why they normally. I'm surprised theyhad Dustin do it, because normally that's
(17:56):
hr because they don't want a PDsales manager, a disc jockey to say
something that could backfire. The nightshift producer the HM hmm, all right,
well that's uh well, two badcard Loves people wanted the update,
(18:18):
and there you got it. Yeah, there you got it
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