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September 11, 2024 20 mins
Also known as Frey's syndrome.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Phrase syndrome. I'm gonna call Phray syndrome.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Okay, fray And again if somebody has it or knows
somebody who has it, please eight six six to Elliott
eight six six two three five five four six eight, Yes, Dian.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
It happens when you experience facial sweating and flushing when
you eat. It often happens as a side effect of
gland surgery perodid gland surgery, and happens because of nerve
damage and abnormal nerve regrowth. Botox can help manage the sweating.

(00:34):
So get away from the managing the sweating.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Part. Two things.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
The number of people that have gland surgery I was
reading through here. That's a lot of people. And the
and when you have it, the odds of you getting
Fray syndrome are very very high. But I think Diane
just kind of casually threw out their sweating while you eat.
Oh no, oh no, it looks like you got out
of a swim pool.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
So what's you condition? That Warner had.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hypohydrosis, that's where he was worse.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Now, Warner was sweating through his shoes and his shirts
and his pants. But this is people are dripping, dripping
with sweat.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
So he was hyper hydroses. Hypo would mean no sweat.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, I don't know what whatever this is these people,
whatever phrases. These people are gushing. It is just dripping
off their faces. And what foods trigger it?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Foods all anything? So it's not just spicy correct.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh, Like I know people that'll have spicy food and
they sweat a little bit. Yeah, like Lander used to
have that a lot. Like he would sweat if he
ate spicy food. What's the most mild food in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Lettuce?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You could eat lettuce and you'll sweat like a pig.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Anything.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
So this is an embarrassing condition.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I mean to some is it if I sat across from.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
You, is it misdiagnosed a lot as what you just
went swimming? No?

Speaker 1 (02:11):
But is it?

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Is it known enough that doctors?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I've never heard of it. I've never heard of it.
I have never heard of this. How do you eat
in public?

Speaker 5 (02:21):
A lot of napkins?

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah? No, I'm being serious. So I wouldn't you be
wouldn't you be? I don't want to say embarrassed. You
shouldn't be embarrassed because of.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
What you have.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I'm sure you'd be super understanding.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Hey, hey, let's go.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Let's go book a lunch so we can watch Diane's sweat.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Hey, Kaplin, don't say anything, but when you when you
have dinner with Diane, uh, cover your food and bring
a squeegee.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Oh my god, I'm looking at photos. Oh is it
that bad?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Yes, that final photo there is only seventy five seconds
after chewing her food.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
You burst into a sweat about thirty seconds after you
start chewing, and it don't let up.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I thought you may have an exaggerating No. You don't
even look that wet when you get out of a
swimming pool.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
This is yeah, this is the minute.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
You're literally dripping.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I said that.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
But the way it's on the face, it's just it's
not just when you get out of the water it
all starts to dry and fall off. This is just
staying in the pores on the cheek and and the hair.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Look at her hair. Look at her hair.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
It's like she just got out of like the hair
washing machine.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Yeah, the first picture is ten seconds after and that
final picture there is only seventy five seconds after chewing.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Dude, you better be able to eat your food in
ten seconds.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
So, because they say chewing Is it the chewing that
activates it.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I don't know. It has something to do with the glands,
like the the glands which eh, but the glands.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Over here, I don't know that word is.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
But over here it gets like something like the stuff
in your neck too right.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Oh, it's a pituitary glued the no. No, but over here,
I don't know what it is. I don't know what
the gland is, but it's like something gets wired up weird.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
Can these peeople drink without issue?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Because he heard it?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Like, I gotta be honest, I would drink non stop?
Also alcohol? Oh oh can they drink? Yeah? I mean
they can probably also just like take their tongue and
run it along their chreek and it feels like they're
drinking a gallon of water.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Nobody goes back to my question about chewing.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Oh yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
It doesn't say anything about drinking, although you know what?
Can I go here?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Line two?

Speaker 7 (04:37):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Kristin Hi Elliott the morning.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Is this?

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Who's this?

Speaker 8 (04:43):
Hi? This is Mike from Gayethersburg.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 8 (04:46):
Mike? My grandfather had good so my grandfather had that condition.
He had cancer twice in his life, once in the
nineteen fifties and has a celebraty gland removed as part
of the treatment, and he survived. He was in his
boys at the time. He lived to be ninety five.
But every time he ate, he would be sweating, you know,

(05:08):
his neck, his face.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Like just profusion.

Speaker 8 (05:12):
Knew why, right, it just happened, and clearly it was
related to the gland removal, you know what?

Speaker 1 (05:19):
And well, see here's the other part that they say, did.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
He did he know that before this morning?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Did you know that before?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Right now?

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Like?

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Did I just educate you?

Speaker 8 (05:28):
No? No, I didn't.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
I just observed.

Speaker 8 (05:30):
I just always remember him sweating so much. And then
you mentioned gland. You're welcome issues, and yeah, he definitely
had that, so you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Very good. Doctor. Healed myself. That's not that doesn't even
make sense.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
That's a poor factor. Day smoker got cancer and then
eventually had bladder cancer twenty years later and lived another
twenty years after having the bladder removed.

Speaker 9 (05:52):
So smoked four packs a day, even melancamps like, damn,
that's warm.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
You have to work for that. I was born town.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
All right, very good, very good, thank you, sir. Here's
the other thing that people don't yeah, grab line four
here in one second. The other thing that people don't realize.
Nerves regenerate, so you may go in and have the surgery.
Like for whatever your glands are, what are parodied glands?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
That's not one that I saw in the description? Is
that is that something?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
I think it's in front of the ears.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right over here, in front of and below each ear
are the parotid glands, the largest of the three major
salivary glands. Oh, I was just say, that's not the
largest gland, mammory is that is true?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
You got a gland bigger than a memory. That's my
thank you.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
But the nerves regenerate, so even after the surgery, the
nerves grow back. That's why if somebody goes into the
have the procedure, they don't realize right away because it
takes a little bit for the nurse to regenerate. They
talked to one old gal that started sweating four years
after having the surgery.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
We are remiss, I guess and remembering that the pancreas
and the liver are glands.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Oh, my pancreas is a big land.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
That pancreas is your second largest gland. The liver is
the largest gland.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Uh not on everybody. Uhh.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
There are plenty of memories bigger than your liver line
or hi elliet the morning. Hey, good morning.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
How are you doing. Hey?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I am doing great, Thank you. Who is this?

Speaker 7 (07:40):
It's Dan from New York.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (07:42):
Dan?

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Not much.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
My father had a gland removed about thirty years ago
and he's been sweating ever since.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Because it kind of grew, it got hard, you got
crosswired that way?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Does he? Does he?

Speaker 10 (07:54):
Somebody?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Oh, so you knew this before today, So I'm not
educating everybody.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Did you?

Speaker 10 (08:00):
Well, I didn't know it was an actual like disease
or syndrome or whatever.

Speaker 7 (08:04):
But but the dodger just said, sometimes it comes.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Out like that. Would he sweat? Would he sweat really
really badly?

Speaker 6 (08:13):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (08:13):
He actually eats with with a rag basically, so you can.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
Wipe his cheek every time they choose. That's pretty that's
pretty nasty.

Speaker 10 (08:26):
It just literally just poured out of his face.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah. No, and I feel bad laughing the Michael Michael's
got a solution. Wait, hold on, here comes a solution
from Michael, and Michael says, just take all your meals
at a swim up, bar.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Hey, can I ask you this?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
And and I don't mean for this to like I'm
not trying to kick someone while they're down.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Did did like you said? It was your it was
your old man?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Right?

Speaker 7 (08:57):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Was he already.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Married before he had the surgery?

Speaker 7 (09:06):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
And again listen, you love people for what? Did they
always say? You go to war with the army you have,
not the one you want? Love the person you have,
not the one you want. Diane, if you were thank you, sir,
thank you, if you were going on a date with Scott.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Right, you're not married or anything.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, And Scott sits down in you guy's order, right,
he got, he got both of you, got an appetizer
and whatever. He's sixty seconds into his appetizer and he
pulls his rag out to keep wiping his face.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Is that a killer?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Are we answering for Diane? Where is she gonna lie?

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Let Diane go first? Well?

Speaker 4 (09:50):
That seems unfair.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, I mean, honestly, is that is that a deal breaker?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh, you've got potential.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
You're a goddamn law You're gonna sit there while Scott's
mopping his face. The whole time, Diane steparm, he's gushing,
his hair is soaking.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Wey, you said this is probably like a first or
second date, so it's probably not moving forward. And I
would expect to him to say the same exactly.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
Obviously, if you've been together with him for you and
then suddenly it develops. I'm not bailing, of course. Yes, yes,
won't go out to eat as often.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Or swim up bar.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
That's true? Why okay, Kristen?

Speaker 5 (10:35):
What No, Kristen didn't post that Kristen's in the photo.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Donna posted that does she have fries syndrome?

Speaker 5 (10:42):
To let you know that this in her hand was
the start of a second drink.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Wait, does she have fries?

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Well, we know she sweats a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, but I thought it was just because she sweats
a lot.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Wow, Kristen Christen, it's a soundproof from but yet I
still heard you laugh.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Wait, so does Donna have fries.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Or are you diagnosinger here? Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I mean she's I mean she is dripping there.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
She writes. We hear about this in medical school. The
facial nerve runs right through that parotid glan.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hm, that's a bad deck of cards, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
So maybe It is easily diagnosed if you're learning about
it through your education.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
All I know is if I find out tomorrow that
I have to have gland surgery, you know, I'm panicking.
Could you imagine the delight of sitting in this room.
It'd be the first time I didn't eat on air.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
That would curve it. Look at that, Look at those
nerves coming from above your eyebrow, below your lips, under
your nose.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Everything goes right to that gland.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
It's a decent sized glan. It's the uh, thank you.
It's not the biggest. I promise you, I promise you.
Sidney Sweeney's liver, ain't that big?

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Elliott in the morning? Hello, Yeah, Hi? Who's this?

Speaker 6 (12:17):
Mark one?

Speaker 11 (12:19):
Three? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (12:19):
I got you?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
What is your name?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Sir?

Speaker 8 (12:22):
You are?

Speaker 7 (12:22):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (12:23):
What's going on? Igor?

Speaker 6 (12:24):
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Man?

Speaker 8 (12:25):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (12:26):
So get there? So I have there's no kien. So
when I was little, when I eat, I only swear
on my right side.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Are you serious?

Speaker 6 (12:35):
I swear to God? Here, I'm a McDonald's right now
eating a sausage blurto only sweating on my right side.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
How bad is it coming down?

Speaker 6 (12:46):
It's not? I mean, it's definitely nurseable. But people looking
around as I'm wiping my face just the right.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Side, right the wait?

Speaker 6 (12:56):
So you had you just taught me something new?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Doctor?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
You didn't know what this is from?

Speaker 6 (13:02):
No, I had no idea my whole life. I've only
sweated on my right side. And now that I'm listening
to you, I'm like, oh, hey, I just learned something
new today.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Wait did you wait? Who was your cancer doctor?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Well, I mean I've had so I was a doctor.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
So I've had a couple. Oh and what did you have?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Then?

Speaker 6 (13:20):
I had lympho cancer back in Russia.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Lymph node cancer. Yes, sir, But you're good now right?

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (13:28):
No, I'm perfect now right.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well, no you're not. You're sweating like a pig. Well,
well there you go. All right, dude, Hey, I appreciate
the birthday. You're welcome. I just cured you. Well no, no,
I didn't. No, I didn't. No, I didn't diagnosed you.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
For working on it. Here this comment explains that it's
any time there is any salivating. So the smell of.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Certain food, yes, we'll make you salivate, will get the
sweating going. Well, can you make yourself salivate by thinking of.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
A food thinking of or actually.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
No, thinking of a food. No, I can't. I'll tell
you no because I used to.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
No.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
No, because it's very I'll tell you exactly how. There's
one food that if I make myself think of, I
can get a good mouthful of spit the no. No, no, no,
no no. And I used to do this because I can't.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I can't dry swallow pills like I have to have
like water or something.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I'm not a good pill swallow.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
And you would think thirty advila a day, I'd be
pretty good at it.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
So it's either this technique or the peanut butter.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
The So I would have to make myself think of
something to get my mouth good and watery so that
I could swallow the pills if I didn't have like
water or coffee or something with me. Yeah, and I
was able to think of a food that if I
think of the food, it makes my mouth very very wet.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Pickles like a.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Like a like a big like the pickles used to
get at movie theaters or that we used to sell.
Like yeah, let's what's going on here. I'm flooding, but
you better start. But you got five minutes to pack.
There's a flood coming in.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Where's my medication?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Elliott's taking it?

Speaker 2 (15:11):
But yeah, if I think of pickles, I get really
wet in the mouth. But that allows me to swallow.
So this so this, the phrase says anytime you even salivate.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Yeah, they say the worst is going to the grocery store.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Oh. I don't think I salivate at the grocery store.
I mean I am hungry. I'm also usually eating line
like the olive bar.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh I love an olive bar.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
With your dirty.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Hands, I'll take them. Yeah, absolutely, Hi, ely in the morning. Yeah, Hi,
Who's this.

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Is Adam from ken Island.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Hey, what's going on? Adam from ken Island? What can
I do for you?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (15:53):
You guys were talking about the product gland and the
removal and hence, uh the sweating that takes place. Yes, sir,
so I'm actually scheduled. I'm actually scheduled to have a
surgery on the twenty third remove part of that gland.
So that's actually the first thing the doctors told me
about when I went in to talk to them.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So let me let me can do you mind if
I ask you a couple of questions? Yeahs oh, why
why do you have to have your parodid gland?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Did you say removed?

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Sir? I lost you?

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh? Oh, is that part of the condition.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
You can't hear the no, no, did you say did
you did you say that you're having your parotid gland removed.

Speaker 7 (16:35):
I'm having a tumor removed from the product gland, not
the entire gland, just the tumor from it.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Right.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
So, but but that's one of the main side effects
they say, is once they remove that, because they have
to cut the nerves to get to the to get
to the tumor, and when they you know, skitch you
back up, the nerves may not align properly right, you
may you know, touch the skin, and so when you're
eating or whatever, instead of producing saliva, it's gonna produce
sweat on the outside.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
And by the way, they say that people who have
the surgery or or like trauma to that area, they
said trauma can also do it. Is that like the
likelihood of getting the sweating thing is very very high,
very high.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Is the tumor benign?

Speaker 7 (17:19):
Oh it's benign, Yeah it is, and it's going to happen.
Just to the severity that depends on you know the outcome.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Wow, and when do you go in for the surgery?

Speaker 7 (17:36):
The twenty third, so a week and a half.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Are you nervous? No, what are you nervous about? Well,
you're gonna sweat your whole life.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
Now, that's a quick outnation facility. It's what it is
right to do that. Or you just sit there and
wait for the tumor to grow bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Well that you don't want. That you don't want.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's since you recap the.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Hey, you know what I may do for you?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
I wonder I wonder if my friend Marissa would make
a washcloth with our logo on it, and that way
if you need to like wipe your face whenever you're
out eating.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Oil, let's eat trees for treatment.

Speaker 7 (18:13):
The uh carry it around whenever I'm traveling for work
and just you know, broadcast EC.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
One on one, all of them. Well, ellie in the morning,
the and then oh but you'll be at a business
meal and all of a sudden you're dripping like a pig.
Oh god, horrible. Hey will you will you follow up
and let us know that the surgery went well?

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Sure, all right, very good, very good. I appreciate it.
Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
How you found a parotidectomy?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I was not expecting that, although you know what if
I'm well, no.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
You shouldn't have expected it. There were people who called
and it suffered from this that had never heard of
the syndrome.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
I got halfway sitting in the McDonald's there getting after it.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Where am I going? Line one? Hi Ellie in the morning?
Oh damn it, I lost you? Can I go to
line three?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Phone slipped off this ship?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Hi Elliott in the morning. Hey, who's this.

Speaker 11 (19:10):
Steve Donner, Lake Anna, Virginia.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yes, sir, Elliot Siegel, Rockville, Maryland. What can I do
for you?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
That's right?

Speaker 11 (19:17):
Hey, Look, so Bruce Lee did not like to actually
sweat and underwent sweat gland surgery to actually have his
sweat glands removed so that he wouldn't sweat. They actually
believed that this contributed to his final death. You know what,

(19:37):
I don't know exactly, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well listen, I don't know. I don't know if that's
true or not. I mean, I'll take your word for it.
You have no reason to call and lie to me. However,
the body, no, no, no, but the body does need
to sweat. I've always heard that if you don't sweat,
there's a problem because it is part of the body's
cooling system.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
I think you your wet bulb. Pardon me, I think
if your wet ball.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Oh that's not what I thought you said the but yeah, no,
I've always heard that you need to be able to sweat.
Not being able to sweat is a big problem. And
then let me grab line two.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Hi Ellie in the morning.

Speaker 10 (20:16):
Hey, it's Gabe and Arlington.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Hey Gabe, how are you good?

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Good?

Speaker 10 (20:21):
I got a buddy who, as a teenager was hit
by a truck on a bicycle and when they reconstructed
his face, they they crossed the wires and it's a
waterfall on one side of his face every time he eats.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
But that would make that would make sense.

Speaker 11 (20:37):
But he got married after that.

Speaker 10 (20:38):
He got a girlfriend and got married after it. So
you know better than Diane.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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