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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Has there ever been anybody in the news who has
the same name as you?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Not really? Yeah, no, Like, I've never seen in the
news somebody named Elliott Siegel like that I've never run into.
Is just people who've looked like you. Hey, hold on
one second, But no, I was gonna say, I don't
think I've I don't think I've run into anybody like Newsworthy,
(00:30):
good or bad? No that had Has there been a
Diane Stewpart No? No, has there been a Tyler Molnard
that you know of? Not that I'm aware of. Would
it bother you if it were? If there was?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
No?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I mean, you don't want to get mistaken for like
a criminal.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Right, well, I mean who would think that you're the criminal?
People misconsidered stuff all the time. So are you familiar
with the Alexander Mountain fire now in North Colorado? Destroyed
about fifty structures, twenty eight homes, burned, about ten thousand acres.
(01:12):
It was starting horrible. Oh yeah, no, it's bad, It's
very bad. It was started by a forty nine year
old guy by the name of Jason Hobby who lived
in Loveland. He's the guy who started the fire, which
obviously goes on and it turns out that he. I mean,
like I said, ten thousand acres, twenty eight people lost
(01:32):
their houses. Do you know who's having a really rough
go of it? Who's that? The other forty nine year
old Jason Hobby who lives in Loveland, the same town,
same town, same age.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
So when you just do those searches online and you
see limited information and one of them is age, you're like,
that's our guy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yes, I guess who's getting docks like crazy? And he
said it's bad, like people are coming after him, You
son of a bitch, like just going after him hard Listen.
It would be bad enough if there was a bad
Elliott Siegel in Idaho. Could you imagine you live in
(02:17):
the same same city, same city, I was gonna say,
same state. Yeah, you're in the same city and the
same age. Right, these two guys could not look more
different and more different?
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Well same a setting a fire, you're.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Already yeah no, But like the other dude, have a
moral high grid like the other Jason Hobby is good
like I mean he he he appears to be a
good dude. I don't know what his shtick is, but
he appears to be a decent guy, but the internet
don't care. No, no, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah, both of them probably not. There are just side
by side by side.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
He has had to petition everybody to try to get
them to differentiate, just to just to make it stop.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Did someone in the media mess this up to or
has only been online?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Let's see another forty nine year old Jason Hobby of
Loveland says his family is now receiving threats. Uh. Last week,
the Larimer County Sheriff's office arrested a Loveland man for
allegedly starting the massive fire. He is now facing charges
including arson impersonating a police officer. The good Douglas Hobby
(03:36):
or Jason Hobby excuse me goes back? Boy? Is this
a horrible coincidence? I would not be that pleasant. The
good Jason Hobby lives with his wife and young daughter
and works with adults with disabilities.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Oh god, god, yep. Did his job think that he
was the arsonist?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
He was shocked to learn that authorities believe he intentionally
set the fire.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Oh so he was talked to by cops.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
They went right after Jason Hobby.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
So he's been mixed up in this in terms of
the legal side, of it as well.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh god, yeah, I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Just people online trolling, docsing and abusing his accounts.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh no, originally they went and talked to him. Oh yeah, No,
nobody doesn't help things. No, no, no, no. But they
didn't arrest him. Still wait, where am I going? Line three?
Hi Elliott in the morning, Hey Elliott, how are you?
I am? Well? Who is this?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
This is Jennifer I live. I live in Loveland, Colorado.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Shut up? Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't know. I don't know how big Loveland is.
Do you know Jason Hobby?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I don't, but I've seen his posts on Facebook asking
people to leave him alone.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I feel I shouldn't laugh. I fel for the guy.
I feel horrible.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean guy, he doesn't look anything like him. He
has really long hair and a really long beard. He
posted in the local loveling group, this is my data birth.
I was born in February. I was not born in June.
Stop posting my home address. He's in jail. I'm at work.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But you could have told me that this guy. You
could have told me that this guy lives in Delaware,
and I would have been like, that sucks, because anybody
who's searched. This guy is seeing you. He's he lives
literally in the same town, literally in the same town. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The worst part is the actual arsonist. His middle name
is Alexander, which is the fire or the name of
the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Oh right, right, right right, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
It was a big deal and it was very scary.
And this guy who actually did it, I think he
had like a law enforcement complex and he wanted to
be like a fire enforcer. People said before the fire
he would like kind of try to rule the mountain.
He had a tricked out truck right that he tried
(06:16):
to make looks like law enforcement. So it's really unfortunate
that all of this happened because some guy has a.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You know, oh yeah, yeah, and congratulations. I don't know, okay, ma'am,
ma'am the no. But then the good Jason Hobby is going, like,
we keep all of our windows closed, we keep all
of the lights off, like because people are coming by
the house and yelling at him. He's like, so we
just we just keep everything quiet, like we can't go
(06:45):
or do anything, and everybody knows where I am. They're
posting my information all over the place.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, that's awful, but hopefully this this real scumbag will
get thrown in and they throw away the key. I
think people were upset because he was only being held
on two hundred and fifty thousand dollars or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But didn't they say, didn't I read those like those
chargers are supposed to go way up right?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I really hope so. I mean, he's so lucky someone
didn't die. He is so lucky.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh yeah, people lost their houses.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, think about the amount of it was crazy when
it happened. The number of horses that had to be rescued,
So there were people just begging anyone with a horse
trailer to come out and help them because there's these
ranches that have hundreds of horses that have to be evacuated. Wow,
and that takes time. And so they opened up the
local like event center for people to board their horses
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and cattle and things like that. It was it was
a big deal. And they even closed our neighborhood pool
because of the air quality. You know, that's not a
big deal, but it was far reaching, I guess, is
what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You're talking to such a huge horse advocate coming off
yesterday honestly, all right, very goodeous, wasn't he? He was beautiful? Beautiful?
All right, very good. I appreciate it. Thank you, ma'am,
thank you you. You'd have to change your name.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
We have a side by side, right. If the good
Jason on the left shaved and got a haircut.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
This is not gonna help. He'd sort of look like.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Him, Yeah, exactly like him. Not exactly, but damn close.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
You'd have issues in a lineup if you had a
run in with one of them.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Who was who? No, not if they look like that
when the incident happened. Haircut, shaved beard, Yeah, well, I
mean they definitely looked to be about the same age.
I was not help. February or whatever. She said. He's
claiming I like that he's March. I'm February. What a pain,
(09:01):
Britain says. I mean, I mean, that's it's bad. But
could you imagine if it was really bad?
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Well, Britain said, when they were trying to decide on
names for children, they had a perspective name. They googled
it and it was someone who did a murder suicide,
so they did not go with that name.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
By the way, like we definitely we definitely like stayed
away from names, but not because of that, like we
stayed away from like we knew that we had to
be for my older one, that it was going to
start with a D. And so it wasn't going to
be Duncan because I didn't want it to be Duncan.
Mcdickner's a lot different. No, I was saying, we never
(09:41):
googled the name to.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
See if anyone infamous notorious had the same ferst and middle.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
No, did you, yeah, you googled the kid's name.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I was also, yes, my son's name has come around
and to see a couple more rets in media, but
my daughter's name freely, like come on, there's there's not
That's not a name that we've ever come across for
a male or female.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Right, you know who said that? The Gaycy family. When's
the when's the last time we saw John Gasey? No,
you know what I mean, But I didn't I give
you credit. We never even looked now, just lots of
dogs the no. No, but I mean you you think
about like, oh, I don't want to do that name
(10:29):
because they'll think it's for whatever or Duncan, like you
think of all the like the obvious reason. Yeah, I
never googled to see if there was like a tie
to a crime or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Now your head was thinking teasing, yes, No, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
We thought yeah, like for the younger one, the which
was going to be a p and we didn't know
if it was going to be when we didn't know
if it was going to be a boy or girl.
One of the names that Jackie said was what about Priscilla?
And I was like, absolutely not that. That gets you
(11:06):
two problems. Number one, Presley right, I'm that I'm not
dealing with. And I'm also not dealing because the other thing,
what's the other thing that everybody says about Priscilla? Prisilla?
So I'm not doing that either all the time.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
More so Prissy.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
No, no, Prisilla. Absolutely, So I was like, I'm not
doing that. Never looked up Now, obviously it's a boy
and it's not a girl. But I never looked up
if there was a Priscilla Siegell who was like some
big criminal somewhere. Never looked that up.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
But that's the thing with It's not like Jason's parents
had that luxury.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Would you change your name? I changed my name, like
if somebody with family.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I mean you said that they're having to turn the
lights off because people are harassing him so much. Yes,
so my family, I feel like is at risk. I
would take whatever measures necessary to protect my family.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So it turns out tomorrow at Tyler Molnar becomes like
one of the worst human beings of all time and
my family and your docks was in danger. Yeah, I
would changed my name, but isn't it too late at
that point? Although not for the future.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
And change their name whenever.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well no, no, no, no, no, like you ate all
the internet fire right, please eating around whatever for we
have to fill out jumps on you. My name's John Gasey.
Yeah no, I mean it doesn't help it in the
moment that your docs, but in the future, in the future,
it would help.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
If I thought it was the best path forward for
everyone's well being.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yeah, I don't think I could do it. It's not
for you, it's for your loved one. Yeah, but I
don't want to give him a name, especially if they
say I don't even love my name.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
What if they started going after like your sister or
your nephew and your mom, Like you don't want that too.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't want any of it. I didn't do anything wrong.
I never dressed up as a clown.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Doesn't.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
But you were given a way to maybe make it better. Yeah,
but I don't want to do that. And you said
too much paperwork, busy. I don't even end up filling
out rebates.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
I'm handed, but I am buying the product for that reason.
But come on, he only gave me three months to
send in the receipt.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Line five. Hi elliot in the morning.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Hey.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
A great example of this is Jerry Sandusky at w
B A L.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
And yes, yes, the the announcer, Yes, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
Every year he has to like tweet out that, uh,
it's not me.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
That's a great one. Well, you know what I mean. No,
but that's a that's a perfect example, like what do
you do? What do you do? He didn't do anything. No,
but you know, people look him up and been like,
oh my god, this is the guy that worked with
Paterno Jesus Christ, Like what are you supposed to do? Right? Yeah,
(14:18):
all right, very good, thank you. That's an excellent one.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
And that's an excellent one that we all should kick ourselves, right,
who else are we forgetting it?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
If that? Because that one was right there, yeah, right there, Yeah,
but there could be ones that. Like the only reason
maybe not I shouldn't say this, but the only reason
you know that is that the other Jerry Sandusky. I mean,
obviously there's the real famous one, and then there's the announcer.
But like, you could be at home, who's anybody in
the news, and there could be another Jason Hobby who's
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like just nobody knows them. Nobody knew the name Jason Hobby.
I know two of them. No, you know what I mean.
I could be Jason Hobby living in Baltimore, right, Oh,
do you used to live in Loveland? Your piece of garbage?
You do benefit at that point from the distance. Yeah, yeah,
(15:09):
But three years from now when I'm going to hire him,
and I go, oh, let's see what Jason. Oh my god,
the man started a fire. You wouldn't know the age
is the age killed? I mean everything about that guy
kills him. What are the odds? Is Loveland big? It's
I know it's a suburb, but is Loveland big? It
(15:30):
is seventy five thousand. There's two Jason Hobbies born within
months of each other that still live there. Oh, so
they're born and bred there. Well, I don't know, but
they live there right now? Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
If like one move there, I don't know, all right, Yeah,
crazy story.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
What if a giants stupar moves to Alexandria it starts
Robin Banks.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Or as Eric says, what if there's a picture of
another Tyler Monar going around eating with his elbows on the.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Table wine one Hi Elliet in the morning. It's Simmy
from Toronto. Oh hey Timmy, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (16:21):
So after I tell you the story, I have a
quick bit of a show trivia for you. But when
I was living in Virginia, so this moving back in
like two thousand and one, I had to go get
a criminal background form done by the stafforged Triff's office
for the rescue squad, and I gave him my name,
a full name and birthdate. And a woman came back
and she goes, are you aware that you still have
an active warrant for DUI in nineteen eighty nine? I
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was like, with all due respect, I was six years
old and living in Florida, so I don't think that's me.
And it's a guy that had the same first and
last name. We had the same birthday, but he was
born like thirty years prior to me. The only thing
different was our year and our middle name.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Right, his name was Timmy Toronto, but you were Timmy
from Toronto.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Exactly yes. And then the weirder thing was I went
to go work at a restaurant in Fredericksburg and we
got a new general manager who also had my last name.
And she came out on her first week there and
she just stopped when she was trying to give me
her my paycheck and she goes, oh my god. I
said what she was. I'm sorry, I'm having a moment.
(17:28):
So what's going on? And she goes, my husband had
the same name as you. And I was like, is
there any chance that his middle name was Eric? She
she goes, yeah, why do you know him? I was like, no,
but he sells in UIs. But the importunate thing was
she had actually passed away in a drunk driving accident
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a few years after. I don't know, it was like
ten years old. But hey, what last little bit of
a show trivia for you? On Monday? Elliott said say
again five times? To the said say that again two times.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Okay, so whatever. It so relatively low that's.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
An average seventeen times the year.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Very good, thank you, thank you. But you know what, like,
I've never even I've never met another Elliott Siegel right,
good or bad? What about your giving them? Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Ellie?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Who hi Elliott in the morning? Ah?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yes, Uh, what's up class?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
How you doing good? What's going on? Dude?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So I actually I saw you, guys. Actually I came down.
I was with a big dog, long bear Ian. Soho.
I went to high school with the guy that had
the exact same first and last name of me, except
my name starts with an E and his name starts
with an high. And we were one grade apart, and
we used to like our grades used to get messed up.
I get sent over on classes for a whole semester.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
It was that, Oh my god, by the way, what
is what is your first name? Ian?
Speaker 5 (19:05):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh that's kind of cool and his I am like normal.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
So but we were so close in like what we
were taking. I would end up in like tenth grade
or eleventh grade classes, and in my ninth and tenth
grade year that was a problem.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Wow. Yeah, But I mean at least that Ian didn't
go on and commit a crime.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
No, no, it didn't well, at least not that I
know of yet.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
He wanted the military.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
They never know.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Wow, unbelievable. All right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you,
my friend. Wait for the background check. Eyther.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Way, like your name ian E A. N has its
roots in Hebrew?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Does it? Really? It does it as done?
Speaker 5 (19:41):
It has a Scottish connection as well, but then it
goes all the way back to Hebrew.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It all does it all tracks back? Lying too? Hi,
elliot the morning God is gracious?
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Hey is this me?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Use this?
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Hey, this is answer.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
From Burdisburg real quick.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I got called into my bosses all this one time
because apparently there was a guy who got pulled over
for doing uh speeding and was really apparently rude to
the police officer and whatnot, and claimed he was with
the fire department and I worked for the fire department.
He had the same first and last name as me
and was from the same area. I was on vacation
(20:23):
during this time, but uh.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Apparently my boss forgot to check that.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh my and uh, well called me into this.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
Office, had paperwork all written up and uh brought me
and said, hey, man, you gotta sign this, and you're
gonna get reprimanded and all this. I'm like, that wasn't me.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But the same name, same name. Unbelievable, unbelievable. But you
know what, and I used to I used to, hey,
thank you, sir. I used to hate my name, hate it,
but never had to worry. Never even met another one,
never even heard of another one. Let's check Facebook. The
(21:02):
Oh there's god, I mean, I'm sure there are other
Elliott Siegells. Let's see here. Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's
like so many.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, I know, there's a lot there. And then there's
the one that tries to scam people as you. So
they're all coming up. All of these may be fake.