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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eric Hutchinson.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hello, Helly, how are you, dude?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'm good, good morning. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I am excellent? How have you? How have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You know, no complaints, which is rare for me. So
just walking between the rain drops right now.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So wait a minute, where are I thought? Are you
in Chicago right now?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I'm on my way to Chicago. I just woke up
in Detroit and I'm on my way to Chicago for
a show tonight. And I was hoping to come see
you guys, but we're doing a phone thing instead.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The thing in Chicago. Remind me, Eric, the thing in
Chicago is the E hutch Hangout?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That is right? I always love you your research, Elliott.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I've got I've got a Patreon thing which is like,
you know, for my super fans, and.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We're taking some of them to a Cubs game on Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Are you really Yeah, some people signed up for it
and they're coming to a Cubs game with me and
the band and we've got, you know, a bunch of
seats all together, and.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh yeah, we're gonna hang out.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Dude. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, listen, getting to see you in the show
like that would be great, but I didn't realize we
were going to Wrigley.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
That's awesome, Yeah, exactly, you know, it's a full package deal.
And then we're doing one in Boston in a couple
of weeks where we're gonna go walk the Freedom Trail
with a guide, you know, and some people are gonna
come with me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So but that you're not doing Fenway, right, we're not
doing good good?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, the No, I don't think they're gonna be there
by the.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Good they shouldn't be a yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't know, but I've always said this, I will
never I will never ever step foot in. There could
be a million dollars laying there, Well maybe there could
be a lot. There could be some money laying there,
and I wouldn't step foot in.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Fenway to go get it. Really Yeah, No, I just don't.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You hate the Red Sox this much? You hate Fenway Park?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
No, I hate the Red Sox that much. I love
the city.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I just I hate I hate the Red Sox, I
hate the Bruins, I hate their sports teams, but I
love the city. Like the Freedom Trail would be good,
and yes, the Red Sox are eliminated, please, of course.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, okay, yeah, exactly yeah, this is stuff I can't
afford to say as a person that goes to every
city on radio, lasting my strong opinions to everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So the but no, I like it, you know what
I mean. Back to Boston though. I like the idea
of doing like the Freedom Trail thing. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, you know, I like I said, I've got this
Patreon thing that is a way that you know, the
sort of the super fans can collect and we do
like a live stream monthly and different things, and this
is just a way to kind of, you know, say
thanks and and you know, hang out with some of
those people and it's fun.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now are you Are you also doing shows as part
of that? Is like part of the part of.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The exactly yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
We're doing back to actually in Chicago and back to
back shows in Boston. On the second day we're doing
like an event and then that night is the second show.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I got youa So the tour right now kind of
coincides the It's the Best of Eric Hutchinson's tour, which
kind of coincides with cliff Notes The Best of twenty
fourteen to twenty twenty four which is out now.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Is it. Is it hard to put together a best
of record?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It was more work than I expected.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'll be honest. You know it should be easy. You
got the songs lying around, just throw them together. But
I took it kind of seriously of trying to really,
you know, I ask again.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I asked the.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Patreon folks and some of the fans, like, what are
the quintessential songs? And kind of put together this thing,
and and then I made two new songs and.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, here we are.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It kind of came out, and I just did this
tour last year that was for my Sounds like this album,
which was the fifteenth anniversary and the number one question
people would our thing with.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
People would say afterwards, oh my god, Eric, I love
that album. Fifteen years so crazy? Are you still making music?
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And I realized, you know, maybe some listeners had missed
a beat or two, and so this is sort of
a quick way to catch people up on the last
ten years of what I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So is it is it?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I saw you posted something and maybe maybe it is
true where somebody was like with like the song rock
and roll, and so when somebody was like, oh, Eric Hutchinson,
you did that song rock and roll?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I thought you died.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, you know, I've been I try to. I have
artists that I love and I loved in a moment
and then maybe I lost touch with and so I'm
trying to give some grace to some other people that
maybe are not as obsessed with my life and my
music as I am. So you know, I'm just trying
to I'm playing a lot of songs pe people know
(05:00):
on tour, but also hoping to read to introduce them
to a couple of ones that.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I really like that I that maybe they haven't heard of.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Hey, Eric, are you also having people vote on like
And I don't know if you're doing it by show
or if you're doing it like by by chunking it up,
but I thought I read and that that people are
getting kind to kind of vote on the set list
for each show.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, we're having people vote, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Again, So it's sort of from this from this album,
it's like which of these songs do you want to hear?
And we've been kind of doing that and and you know,
letting letting the people decide what's important. So uh, yeah,
it's been it's been fun. I've got sort of an
overwhelming amount of music these days. You know, I'm not
Bruce Springsteen, but I have the same problem as him,
(05:46):
which is like, how do I you got so many songs?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Hey? When when you when you look back at the
last ten years, right, so, you were like, I'm gonna
do this this record that's a best of of the
last ten years.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And there's a couple of new songs.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We'll get to that in a second, but I'm gonna
put together the last ten years. I feel like it
is a natural moment to not only like look at
yourself musically over the last ten years, but to stop
and go like, wow, I can't believe all this has happened, dude.
The last ten years for you feel like they went slow?
Did they go fast? Did you do a lot? And
(06:25):
maybe not even musically, but like when you kind of
take stock over the last ten years, do you walk
away going like that was pretty good?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Goddamn ten years?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, you know, I mean I think it's an I'm
still here kind of thing, you know, and it does
sort of I don't know, I'm getting I don't know
if you're like this, I'm getting old enough now where
things that I felt like were a few years ago
were ten years ago, you know, like when I was
in my twenties, it was like I was either a
kid or it was now and now I'm older and
I'm like, that must have been what I don't know,
three years ago, and someone's like, no, that was two
(06:57):
thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, I totally have that problem.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't go the other way though, like I don't
like nothing goes like back far, but everything is. Everything
was like, oh, that was like a year or two ago.
It'll be like, well that was actually like you know,
early two thousands. That that problem I definitely have.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, So I mean I'm getting to that point, and
so I mean I am able to kind of keep
track of my life based on Oh I remember I
wrote that song and that was I was out doing
that tour or whatever. So in some ways it was
it was you know, reflective to kind of and when
I finally I put these collection together and did listen
through it all, like to you know, it was like whoa,
it was kind of a time capsule or diary or
(07:38):
something of my life. And you know, like everybody, I've
been growing up and I have a daughter now and
dealing with adult things and I'm trying to have my
music reflect that but still be fun and positive and exciting.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So I guess over the last ten years that might
that might be one of the highlights as having a kid.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It's definitely it's changed, you know, it's changed so much
in my life and certainly in my music life and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's there's so many songs that are directly or indirectly
written about her.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And it's definitely changed how I, how I tore, and
you know, just change its priorities.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Hey, so let me ask you this the the like,
Like I said, there's the Greatest Hits record going with
the Greatest Hits Tour.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But there's two new.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Songs that are on the on the on the record,
one of them is is Jomo the Joy of Missing Out, which,
by the way, I love the song. The song is
so good, Eric, it is so good. No, I really do.
I love it. I love the song. But I want
you to I want you to answer something for me, though.
(08:47):
Is it is it a love song about being in
love with somebody so much you don't care about missing
anything because you're with them, or is it genuinely an
ode to being an introvert man?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I would say, you nailed it. It's both really, you know,
it's I. That's one thing I discovered in the last
ten years was I I discovered.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I was an introvert.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
And that was very life changing because I was like, oh,
I'm not not fun. I just don't like doing the same.
I don't like shots and loud bars. I prefer quality
time in a quiet place or something.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And you know, I just it totally was like the.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Sixth sense m Night Shyamalan or something where I saw
my whole life flash before me and I was like.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh, it all makes sense now.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And so yeah, a lot of people get fomo the
fear of missing out.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
They're like, oh, I gotta do that, I gotta do that.
I love, especially at my age now, I love not
doing a thing, you know, or it Friday.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It's Friday and you're supposed to go to some event
and you look at your spouse or something and you
go like, you know what, did we just sit on
the couch and watch TV all night?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
No? No, no, no, no. I don't like that. I
don't like that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I don't like that notrovert.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
More people are like Eric than you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I refuse to believe that I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, no, the the I mean, listen, there are sometimes
where you where you feel like you need a break,
but yeah, no, no like going and doing like that
like that, that's where the energy is. Eric you perform
on stage for people, you're not an introvert.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Oh, I'm an introvert, but I do like doing things too.
That's a misconception about introverts. We like doing things. We
just need more time to recharge.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And yeah, just not every day.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
How did you when you said, like over over the
last whatever it was that you you discovered you were
an introvert?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
How do you how do you even discover that?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well, Elliott, I've don't out of therapy and whoops.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I had a book that was described to me though.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's called The Introverts Advantage, and uh I started reading
and it was just like a how to manual my life.
Whereas the biggest thing is I, like I said, I
just sort of think of my That's how I manage
my energy. I think of myself like a like a
cell phone battery now where I'm like, I can go
do that thing and it might even be fun for me,
but it's going to eat up half of my battery
(11:15):
and then I'm not going to work as well and
I'm gonna be cranky or irritable or something.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
So I just have to And it's been really helpful.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Like with my wife too, she's sometimes better at it
than I am.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
She's like, I know we're going to do this thing, but.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think you should just sit here for an hour
and not talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So that you don't don't take it out on you charge.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That battery really before before you get fully invested in
that though.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Can I recommend a book to you?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The extrovert Advantage?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, but you know what and and and again I'm
not not not to beat up on it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I just don't see you as that, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Like you you you are, You're on stage, you're you're
you're busy, you're active, you're touring. Like to me, that's
not that's not an introvert. But like you said, maybe
you are.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think three introverts that were also musicians, I believe
Michael Jackson, Prince and Beyonce I think are all probably
in the same category here, And then then it's me
were the where.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
The fore the mount Rushmore. Yes, of introvert performers.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
No, I love talking to people, especially you guys. But
it's just something I've learned about myself. So I thought
I had a little fun with the song. And you know,
there's certain people like Diane that are like raising their
hand being like, yes, this song is me, thank you,
And then there's other people who are just angry about it,
like you.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
No, No, how did I start the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I started by saying that I do I love I
love the song.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I really do, thank you. Yeah, you know, I think
that's part of it. Extroverts don't. Like my wife is
a super extrovert, and we've really had to meet each
other halfway of like it's like it's not that I
don't want to do this, not that I can't do this.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'm just like I can't. I can't do this. I can't.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Like got into a huge fight at a winning ones
because I was just like I need to leave. And
it's not it's not about you or anything else. I
was like, I'm just shutting down. I think we see
it more with like kids these d where people are
making space for kids like they can't handle those things
or something.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I'm like a big kid.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Hey, So now let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I was going through some stuff and I don't know
if it was I don't know if it was done
because of the of the the kind of encapsuling like
the last ten years. But you online you had a
scrap book eric of you were that you were thumbing through.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't like.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
First of all, it's very impressive, and it's like all
the shows that you've done. I mean not all of them,
but like you would like get to flip a page
and it'd be like, oh, here's my name on the
Marquett Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Or here here's I was on tour with you know,
Kelly Clarkson or whatever. It is, right, that is that.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't know if you kept that while you were going,
but that scrap book is really impressive.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I hadn't really thought about that. It's something I did.
I actually ran out of space, so it is, it
is done, and but it's it does capture a lot
of years and I kept all kinds of things and
I didn't really think about that part. But you know,
the scrap book heads came out of the comments like whoa,
where's I love the scrap booking. Where'd you get that
scrap book from? And I'm like, I don't know, somewhere
(14:31):
in two thousand, I got it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That was cheap.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But yeah, I forgot there's a whole like world of
scrap booking and that's not necessarily what I do.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
But you know, I just kept a bunch of stuff and.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I didn't even think about it, like from the world
of scrap booking, like I don't, I don't, that didn't
even cross my mind.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You're not a big scrap.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Booker, No, Eric, I'm not. I'm out of the house
the but no.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But you know what I did like about it though,
because I mean I'm sure, I mean you've lived on
the road, you grew up on the road. Is there
are probably things that at the moment were great that
you don't remember. You know what it made me do
it it made me upset that I don't have a
scrap book for the show, for our show, because I'm
sure we've done things that I have totally forgotten about.
(15:22):
And then you run into somebody go, oh, you know,
I was at this or this where I totally forgot
about it. So from that standpoint, just as like chronicling things.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm not at scrapbooking, but as chronicling things, I really
like that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I like having the hard evidence of something, you know,
the physical evidence to be like, wow, this is a
flyer from this event I did. It's so you know,
a little many time travel things like that has actually
come with me from that whole time. And so I
guess I'm maybe more sentimental than I sometimes think I am.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But yeah, it's it's cool to have. It's like a
journal or scrap like anything.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's like kind of a pain in the ass to
do it in real time, but then when you have it,
it's a it's a cool thing to have. And I
was I had somebody helping me with make videos and
she's like, we need to show this scrap book on
and I was like, nobody wants to see the scrap book.
And she's like, just talk me through the scrap book.
And we made it into a video and people were
into it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, No, it's fantastic. Hey, go back to go back
to Wrigley.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
For a second.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You've been to I know you're a huge baseball nerd,
the you've been to Wrigley before, haven't you.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I have it's not one of my my final three
that I'm missing, but it's it is in my top tier,
so I'm excited to go back.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The Wait, so which ones are you? Which ones are
you missing?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm missing Atlanta Arizona And no, it was the other one.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I forget.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Maybe it's only two now, No, there's something else in there.
I'll have to remember. I just checked. I checked off
Tampa Bay this year, which I do not recommend. Oh really,
I mean it's they're they're getting ready to replace it.
In the couple like I went there and then like
a day later they announced like we're building a new one.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Don't worry in like twenty twenty nine or something.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
But you know it's a it's an old, sad stadium
that was built for like arena football or something.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Wait, so a couple of things, A couple of things.
Number One, you're you're only missing. Two, you're only missing
Atlanta and Arizona. Number I have one more in there. Well,
then you're either lying to me or you're lying online
one of the two.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh okay, great, maybe I'm down to two.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The how have you not been to Atlanta like that?
That doesn't make any sense to.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Me I know, I know, and I've started at this
point for longest time.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I just would schedule it in you know, oh great,
I've got an off day and since Natty, I'll.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Go to the show.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
But now this last these last couple, I've had to
start making pilgrimages.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You know, I flew to Toronto last year.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I made an extra trip to go to Tampa, and uh,
I guess I'm just kinda to do these other ones.
I've been to Atlanta and so many times, but it
just never lined up exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I've probably got to schedule a show around it and
our George just take a trip like a normal person.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Do you only do because then I thought there's because
Atlanta doesn't make sense. And it's a great stadium by
the way, but the the do you only see them
when they're playing? Will you only visit a stadium if
they're playing the Orioles or is it just to check
off the stadium?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, it's it's a bonus.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I got to see the Orioles play, uh Toronto and
in Tampa.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But no, I'm just I'm just there for the.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Game and the experience and to and to uh you know,
take it all in and I gotta I guess I'm close.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
To having to. I'm gonna have to produce a list.
Like I was just saying, you're railing on Fenway, but
I am actually gonna have to produce.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
A list and make some enemies of uh which are
the my favorite stadiums and and least favorite?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
What is?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I know you can't speak on behalf of Atlanta and Arizona,
but which one?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Which one sits at the top? Yankee Stadium? Obviously, I'm
not really a Yankee Stadium guy.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
It's kind of in the middle to me. I mean,
San Francisco is.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Really great, the Orioles are obviously great, Wrigley's great, and
actually you're gonna hate it. But Fenway is a really
special stadium.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
We'll ever go.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
There's only twenty nine stadiums. Eric, Hey, you know where
we were. We were in Cincinnati over the weekend. Have
you been a great American?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I want to go to that stadium.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's a good one. I actually ran the bases at
that one.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
How'd you do that?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, did you just hop on the field?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I was arrested right after I ran two of the bases. No.
It was like one of these things where they I
was there by myself.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
This is probably twenty years ago or something, and they
were like, you know, some some stadiums you can run
the bases afterwards, the kids can. On a Sunday game
you can watch you can run the bases. And somehow
I did it. I got a little certificate.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, and now that I'm thinking about it, I might
have been the only person over twelve who's doing it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Was cool.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
And also I'm a fan of Great American Ballpark is
a good name where they use the sponsorship but it
still fits like Great American Ballpark.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
That's a good name. Yeah, but it's also a life
insurance company. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
No, I agree with you. I agree.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Not as good, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
The Best of Eric Hutchinson Tour will be at the
Birchmere Tuesday night, October the first, so you could see
Eric there again. The Best of Eric Hutchinson Tour Tuesday night,
August the first.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
At the Birchmere.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Cliff Notes the best of twenty fourteen through twenty twenty
four When I mess up October, what did I say August? No, October,
I wrote October.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I know what I'm saying. I just can't say it.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Next week The Yes next Tuesday, October first at the
Birchmere and then cliff Notes.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The Best of twenty fourteen to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That is out now, featuring two new songs, Eric, I
appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Likewise, always a pleasure, guys,
Eric Hutchinson.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hello, Helly, how are you, dude?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I'm good, good morning. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
I am excellent? How have you? How have you been?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
You know, no complaints, which is rare for me. So
just walking between the rain drops right now.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
So wait a minute, where are I thought? Are you
in Chicago right now?
Speaker 4 (00:26):
I'm on my way to Chicago. I just woke up
in Detroit and I'm on my way to Chicago for
a show tonight. And I was hoping to come see
you guys, but we're doing a phone thing instead.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So here we are.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
The thing in Chicago. Remind me, Eric, the thing in
Chicago is the E hutch Hangout?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
That is right? I always love you your research, Elliott.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I've got I've got a Patreon thing which is like,
you know, for my super fans, and.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
We're taking some of them to a Cubs game on Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Are you really Yeah, some people signed up for it
and they're coming to a Cubs game with me and
the band and we've got, you know, a bunch of
seats all together, and.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh yeah, we're gonna hang out.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Dude. That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I mean, listen, getting to see you in the show
like that would be great, but I didn't realize we
were going to Wrigley.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
That's awesome, Yeah, exactly, you know, it's a full package deal.
And then we're doing one in Boston in a couple
of weeks where we're gonna go walk the Freedom Trail
with a guide, you know, and some people are gonna
come with me.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
So but that you're not doing Fenway, right, we're not
doing good good?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah, the No, I don't think they're gonna be there
by the.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Good they shouldn't be a yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I don't know, but I've always said this, I will
never I will never ever step foot in. There could
be a million dollars laying there, Well maybe there could
be a lot. There could be some money laying there,
and I wouldn't step foot in.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Fenway to go get it. Really Yeah, No, I just don't.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
You hate the Red Sox this much? You hate Fenway Park?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
No, I hate the Red Sox that much. I love
the city.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I just I hate I hate the Red Sox, I
hate the Bruins, I hate their sports teams, but I
love the city. Like the Freedom Trail would be good,
and yes, the Red Sox are eliminated, please, of course.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, okay, yeah, exactly yeah, this is stuff I can't
afford to say as a person that goes to every
city on radio, lasting my strong opinions to everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
So the but no, I like it, you know what
I mean. Back to Boston though. I like the idea
of doing like the Freedom Trail thing. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, you know, I like I said, I've got this
Patreon thing that is a way that you know, the
sort of the super fans can collect and we do
like a live stream monthly and different things, and this
is just a way to kind of, you know, say
thanks and and you know, hang out with some of
those people and it's fun.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now are you Are you also doing shows as part
of that? Is like part of the part of.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The exactly yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
We're doing back to actually in Chicago and back to
back shows in Boston. On the second day we're doing
like an event and then that night is the second show.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I got youa So the tour right now kind of
coincides the It's the Best of Eric Hutchinson's tour, which
kind of coincides with cliff Notes The Best of twenty
fourteen to twenty twenty four which is out now.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Is it. Is it hard to put together a best
of record?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
It was more work than I expected.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'll be honest. You know it should be easy. You
got the songs lying around, just throw them together. But
I took it kind of seriously of trying to really,
you know, I ask again.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
I asked the.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Patreon folks and some of the fans, like, what are
the quintessential songs? And kind of put together this thing,
and and then I made two new songs and.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, here we are.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
It kind of came out, and I just did this
tour last year that was for my Sounds like this album,
which was the fifteenth anniversary and the number one question
people would our thing with.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
People would say afterwards, oh my god, Eric, I love
that album. Fifteen years so crazy? Are you still making music?
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And I realized, you know, maybe some listeners had missed
a beat or two, and so this is sort of
a quick way to catch people up on the last
ten years of what I've been doing.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So is it is it?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I saw you posted something and maybe maybe it is
true where somebody was like with like the song rock
and roll, and so when somebody was like, oh, Eric Hutchinson,
you did that song rock and roll?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
I thought you died.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, you know, I've been I try to. I have
artists that I love and I loved in a moment
and then maybe I lost touch with and so I'm
trying to give some grace to some other people that
maybe are not as obsessed with my life and my
music as I am. So you know, I'm just trying
to I'm playing a lot of songs pe people know
(05:00):
on tour, but also hoping to read to introduce them
to a couple of ones that.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I really like that I that maybe they haven't heard of.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Hey, Eric, are you also having people vote on like
And I don't know if you're doing it by show
or if you're doing it like by by chunking it up,
but I thought I read and that that people are
getting kind to kind of vote on the set list
for each show.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, we're having people vote, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Again, So it's sort of from this from this album,
it's like which of these songs do you want to hear?
And we've been kind of doing that and and you know,
letting letting the people decide what's important. So uh, yeah,
it's been it's been fun. I've got sort of an
overwhelming amount of music these days. You know, I'm not
Bruce Springsteen, but I have the same problem as him,
(05:46):
which is like, how do I you got so many songs?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Hey? When when you when you look back at the
last ten years, right, so, you were like, I'm gonna
do this this record that's a best of of the
last ten years.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And there's a couple of new songs.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
We'll get to that in a second, but I'm gonna
put together the last ten years. I feel like it
is a natural moment to not only like look at
yourself musically over the last ten years, but to stop
and go like, wow, I can't believe all this has happened, dude.
The last ten years for you feel like they went slow?
Did they go fast? Did you do a lot? And
(06:25):
maybe not even musically, but like when you kind of
take stock over the last ten years, do you walk
away going like that was pretty good?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Goddamn ten years?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, you know, I mean I think it's an I'm
still here kind of thing, you know, and it does
sort of I don't know, I'm getting I don't know
if you're like this, I'm getting old enough now where
things that I felt like were a few years ago
were ten years ago, you know, like when I was
in my twenties, it was like I was either a
kid or it was now and now I'm older and
I'm like, that must have been what I don't know,
three years ago, and someone's like, no, that was two
(06:57):
thousand and five.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh, I totally have that problem.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't go the other way though, like I don't
like nothing goes like back far, but everything is. Everything
was like, oh, that was like a year or two ago.
It'll be like, well that was actually like you know,
early two thousands. That that problem I definitely have.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, So I mean I'm getting to that point, and
so I mean I am able to kind of keep
track of my life based on Oh I remember I
wrote that song and that was I was out doing
that tour or whatever. So in some ways it was
it was you know, reflective to kind of and when
I finally I put these collection together and did listen
through it all, like to you know, it was like whoa,
it was kind of a time capsule or diary or
(07:38):
something of my life. And you know, like everybody, I've
been growing up and I have a daughter now and
dealing with adult things and I'm trying to have my
music reflect that but still be fun and positive and exciting.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So I guess over the last ten years that might
that might be one of the highlights as having a kid.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It's definitely it's changed, you know, it's changed so much
in my life and certainly in my music life and everything.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's there's so many songs that are directly or indirectly
written about her.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And it's definitely changed how I, how I tore, and
you know, just change its priorities.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Hey, so let me ask you this the the like,
Like I said, there's the Greatest Hits record going with
the Greatest Hits Tour.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
But there's two new.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Songs that are on the on the on the record,
one of them is is Jomo the Joy of Missing Out, which,
by the way, I love the song. The song is
so good, Eric, it is so good. No, I really do.
I love it. I love the song. But I want
you to I want you to answer something for me, though.
(08:47):
Is it is it a love song about being in
love with somebody so much you don't care about missing
anything because you're with them, or is it genuinely an
ode to being an introvert man?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I would say, you nailed it. It's both really, you know,
it's I. That's one thing I discovered in the last
ten years was I I discovered.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I was an introvert.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
And that was very life changing because I was like, oh,
I'm not not fun. I just don't like doing the same.
I don't like shots and loud bars. I prefer quality
time in a quiet place or something.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And you know, I just it totally was like the.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Sixth sense m Night Shyamalan or something where I saw
my whole life flash before me and I was like.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh, it all makes sense now.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
And so yeah, a lot of people get fomo the
fear of missing out.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
They're like, oh, I gotta do that, I gotta do that.
I love, especially at my age now, I love not
doing a thing, you know, or it Friday.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It's Friday and you're supposed to go to some event
and you look at your spouse or something and you
go like, you know what, did we just sit on
the couch and watch TV all night?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
No? No, no, no, no. I don't like that. I
don't like that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I don't like that notrovert.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
More people are like Eric than you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I refuse to believe that I refuse to believe that.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, no, the the I mean, listen, there are sometimes
where you where you feel like you need a break,
but yeah, no, no like going and doing like that
like that, that's where the energy is. Eric you perform
on stage for people, you're not an introvert.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Oh, I'm an introvert, but I do like doing things too.
That's a misconception about introverts. We like doing things. We
just need more time to recharge.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And yeah, just not every day.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
How did you when you said, like over over the
last whatever it was that you you discovered you were
an introvert?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
How do you how do you even discover that?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well, Elliott, I've don't out of therapy and whoops.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I had a book that was described to me though.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's called The Introverts Advantage, and uh I started reading
and it was just like a how to manual my life.
Whereas the biggest thing is I, like I said, I
just sort of think of my That's how I manage
my energy. I think of myself like a like a
cell phone battery now where I'm like, I can go
do that thing and it might even be fun for me,
but it's going to eat up half of my battery
(11:15):
and then I'm not going to work as well and
I'm gonna be cranky or irritable or something.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
So I just have to And it's been really helpful.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Like with my wife too, she's sometimes better at it
than I am.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
She's like, I know we're going to do this thing, but.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think you should just sit here for an hour
and not talk to anybody.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
So that you don't don't take it out on you charge.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
That battery really before before you get fully invested in
that though.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Can I recommend a book to you?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The extrovert Advantage?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Oh I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
No, but you know what and and and again I'm
not not not to beat up on it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I just don't see you as that, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Like you you you are, You're on stage, you're you're
you're busy, you're active, you're touring. Like to me, that's
not that's not an introvert. But like you said, maybe
you are.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think three introverts that were also musicians, I believe
Michael Jackson, Prince and Beyonce I think are all probably
in the same category here, And then then it's me
were the where.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
The fore the mount Rushmore. Yes, of introvert performers.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
No, I love talking to people, especially you guys. But
it's just something I've learned about myself. So I thought
I had a little fun with the song. And you know,
there's certain people like Diane that are like raising their
hand being like, yes, this song is me, thank you,
And then there's other people who are just angry about it,
like you.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
No, No, how did I start the whole thing?
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I started by saying that I do I love I
love the song.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I really do, thank you. Yeah, you know, I think
that's part of it. Extroverts don't. Like my wife is
a super extrovert, and we've really had to meet each
other halfway of like it's like it's not that I
don't want to do this, not that I can't do this.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I'm just like I can't. I can't do this. I can't.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Like got into a huge fight at a winning ones
because I was just like I need to leave. And
it's not it's not about you or anything else. I
was like, I'm just shutting down. I think we see
it more with like kids these d where people are
making space for kids like they can't handle those things
or something.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I'm like a big kid.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Hey, So now let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I was going through some stuff and I don't know
if it was I don't know if it was done
because of the of the the kind of encapsuling like
the last ten years. But you online you had a
scrap book eric of you were that you were thumbing through.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
I don't like.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
First of all, it's very impressive, and it's like all
the shows that you've done. I mean not all of them,
but like you would like get to flip a page
and it'd be like, oh, here's my name on the
Marquett Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Or here here's I was on tour with you know,
Kelly Clarkson or whatever. It is, right, that is that.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I don't know if you kept that while you were going,
but that scrap book is really impressive.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I hadn't really thought about that. It's something I did.
I actually ran out of space, so it is, it
is done, and but it's it does capture a lot
of years and I kept all kinds of things and
I didn't really think about that part. But you know,
the scrap book heads came out of the comments like whoa,
where's I love the scrap booking. Where'd you get that
scrap book from? And I'm like, I don't know, somewhere
(14:31):
in two thousand, I got it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
That was cheap.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But yeah, I forgot there's a whole like world of
scrap booking and that's not necessarily what I do.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
But you know, I just kept a bunch of stuff and.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I didn't even think about it, like from the world
of scrap booking, like I don't, I don't, that didn't
even cross my mind.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You're not a big scrap.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Booker, No, Eric, I'm not. I'm out of the house
the but no.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
But you know what I did like about it though,
because I mean I'm sure, I mean you've lived on
the road, you grew up on the road. Is there
are probably things that at the moment were great that
you don't remember. You know what it made me do
it it made me upset that I don't have a
scrap book for the show, for our show, because I'm
sure we've done things that I have totally forgotten about.
(15:22):
And then you run into somebody go, oh, you know,
I was at this or this where I totally forgot
about it. So from that standpoint, just as like chronicling things.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm not at scrapbooking, but as chronicling things, I really
like that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
I like having the hard evidence of something, you know,
the physical evidence to be like, wow, this is a
flyer from this event I did. It's so you know,
a little many time travel things like that has actually
come with me from that whole time. And so I
guess I'm maybe more sentimental than I sometimes think I am.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
But yeah, it's it's cool to have. It's like a
journal or scrap like anything.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's like kind of a pain in the ass to
do it in real time, but then when you have it,
it's a it's a cool thing to have. And I
was I had somebody helping me with make videos and
she's like, we need to show this scrap book on
and I was like, nobody wants to see the scrap book.
And she's like, just talk me through the scrap book.
And we made it into a video and people were
into it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah, No, it's fantastic. Hey, go back to go back
to Wrigley.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
For a second.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You've been to I know you're a huge baseball nerd,
the you've been to Wrigley before, haven't you.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
I have it's not one of my my final three
that I'm missing, but it's it is in my top tier,
so I'm excited to go back.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The Wait, so which ones are you? Which ones are
you missing?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm missing Atlanta Arizona And no, it was the other one.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I forget.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Maybe it's only two now, No, there's something else in there.
I'll have to remember. I just checked. I checked off
Tampa Bay this year, which I do not recommend. Oh really,
I mean it's they're they're getting ready to replace it.
In the couple like I went there and then like
a day later they announced like we're building a new one.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Don't worry in like twenty twenty nine or something.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
But you know it's a it's an old, sad stadium
that was built for like arena football or something.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Wait, so a couple of things, A couple of things.
Number One, you're you're only missing. Two, you're only missing
Atlanta and Arizona. Number I have one more in there. Well,
then you're either lying to me or you're lying online
one of the two.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Oh okay, great, maybe I'm down to two.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The how have you not been to Atlanta like that?
That doesn't make any sense to.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Me I know, I know, and I've started at this
point for longest time.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I just would schedule it in you know, oh great,
I've got an off day and since Natty, I'll.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Go to the show.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
But now this last these last couple, I've had to
start making pilgrimages.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
You know, I flew to Toronto last year.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I made an extra trip to go to Tampa, and uh,
I guess I'm just kinda to do these other ones.
I've been to Atlanta and so many times, but it
just never lined up exactly.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
So uh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
I've probably got to schedule a show around it and
our George just take a trip like a normal person.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Do you only do because then I thought there's because
Atlanta doesn't make sense. And it's a great stadium by
the way, but the the do you only see them
when they're playing? Will you only visit a stadium if
they're playing the Orioles or is it just to check
off the stadium?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
No, it's it's a bonus.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I got to see the Orioles play, uh Toronto and
in Tampa.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
But no, I'm just I'm just there for the.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Game and the experience and to and to uh you know,
take it all in and I gotta I guess I'm close.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
To having to. I'm gonna have to produce a list.
Like I was just saying, you're railing on Fenway, but
I am actually gonna have to produce.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
A list and make some enemies of uh which are
the my favorite stadiums and and least favorite?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
What is?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I know you can't speak on behalf of Atlanta and Arizona,
but which one?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Which one sits at the top? Yankee Stadium? Obviously, I'm
not really a Yankee Stadium guy.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
It's kind of in the middle to me. I mean,
San Francisco is.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Really great, the Orioles are obviously great, Wrigley's great, and
actually you're gonna hate it. But Fenway is a really
special stadium.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
We'll ever go.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
There's only twenty nine stadiums. Eric, Hey, you know where
we were. We were in Cincinnati over the weekend. Have
you been a great American?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, I want to go to that stadium.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It's a good one. I actually ran the bases at
that one.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
How'd you do that?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Well, did you just hop on the field?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I was arrested right after I ran two of the bases. No.
It was like one of these things where they I
was there by myself.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
This is probably twenty years ago or something, and they
were like, you know, some some stadiums you can run
the bases afterwards, the kids can. On a Sunday game
you can watch you can run the bases. And somehow
I did it. I got a little certificate.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, and now that I'm thinking about it, I might
have been the only person over twelve who's doing it.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Was cool.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
And also I'm a fan of Great American Ballpark is
a good name where they use the sponsorship but it
still fits like Great American Ballpark.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
That's a good name. Yeah, but it's also a life
insurance company. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
No, I agree with you. I agree.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Not as good, all right.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
The Best of Eric Hutchinson Tour will be at the
Birchmere Tuesday night, October the first, so you could see
Eric there again. The Best of Eric Hutchinson Tour Tuesday night,
August the first.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
At the Birchmere.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Cliff Notes the best of twenty fourteen through twenty twenty
four When I mess up October, what did I say August? No, October,
I wrote October.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I know what I'm saying. I just can't say it.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Next week The Yes next Tuesday, October first at the
Birchmere and then cliff Notes.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
The Best of twenty fourteen to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That is out now, featuring two new songs, Eric, I
appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Likewise, always a pleasure, guys,
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