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October 2, 2024 16 mins
Cannabis and music.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, I'm Abby, Abby.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let me ask you this.

Speaker 3 (00:03):
Have you ever have you ever gotten high in your life?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Yeah? Okay?

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Would you be able to say music sounds better when
you're high or music sounds better when you're not high?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
So in my opinion, it sounds great both ways. But
I when I'm high, I can sit through songs for longer,
and I can listen to different kinds of songs.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
When you say different kinds, like different genres of music, Yeah,
like different.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Genres that I wouldn't usually listen to whilst sober.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Interesting, very interesting, because you know what I was going
to say, for for for for me and my experience.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
And again I know what the answer to this is,
like research, scientifically proven yep. But I was gonna say
for for me, thank you, ma'am. I don't know that
I notice a difference, however.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
No difference, not even better or worse, No difference, No difference. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
However, however, I go the opposite of her in that
not high. I can't say I love all genres of music,
but I really do, like I listen. I don't listen
to opera, and I don't I don't listen to ballet
but like whatever, like whatever music.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
They played during the ballet, So you're gonna just throw
the nutcracker on it homeay?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
No, no no, But like there there there may be
certain genres of music that I can't listen to sober
that I would listen to high.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Okay, that's sort of what she said. Yeah, no, no,
she's the other way.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
She said she could listen to more when she's high
than when she's sober. I go the other way. Oh, okay,
I go the other way. Like, for example, I love
country music. Hi, no thank you, no no, no, no,
thank you, no thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Having been to some country shows, I do feel like
occasionally there's.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
A lot of high people smoking. Yeah, but I mean
you could say that about any show. You could say
that about any show.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
A lot of people are saying that they find it
makes music they're not as into better or more listenable
when they smoke. Really, so they're with the caller.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
That it's that it's better high, that it's more approachable. Right, Oh,
the different genres like it. All right, all right, let
me let me try this one.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Hi Elliott in the morning.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Hey Elliott, Hey.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
What's up girl?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hi?

Speaker 5 (02:56):
No, I'm hi. I would say I'm high ninety the time,
like this of my life, and music definitely sounds better
when you're high, like it doesn't sound bad when you're not.

Speaker 6 (03:07):
But like, for.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
Example, the first time I smoked these, it was a
life changing experience. I was listening to Kenny Chusney and
there was an instrument in the background that I had
never heard before in my whole life, and I was like,
it sounds like a fluke. I was like, who's popping
off on a flue? And then I and then I
didn't smoke, and I listened to it and I couldn't
hear the instruments.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Interesting, by the way. But by the way, now, let
me ask you this just a two part question. Sure,
will you listen to country music if you're not high?

Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (03:44):
Okay, yes, with callers that it's easier to listen to
genres that you don't particularly enjoy. In general, when you're high,
you can pretty much listen to anything.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Wow. So I'm the anomaly.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I really am the anomally. I am narrow arrow myself.
I do'll broaden myself. I would agree with you that
you may pick up Thank you, ma'am, thank you.

Speaker 8 (04:08):
I can see what she's saying, though, but like she's
she heard an instrument that she had never noticed before.
You can kind of sometimes your brain will take you
to a place where you're like more less, like oh,
I'm just gonna listen to the baseline and it stands
out more.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'll give you that.

Speaker 8 (04:24):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
There's a track on the new Billy Strings record called
More Bud for Me. The credits, the personnel credits are
so great. It says Billy Strings vocals, bong, lighter, grinder, papers, bowl,
jar and cough.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Line four. Hi Elliott in the morning, no flute though.

Speaker 8 (04:48):
Hey is this?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah? Hi?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Who's this?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (04:52):
My name's Colleen.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, Colleen.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
I have a I have a good story that makes
this point. My husband and I were out to dinner
and we were high, as one sometimes is, and we
are listening to the music, and every song I would say, Oh,
the song is amazing, honey, let's shazamine. And then he
would say, oh, the song's flas it's so cool. He
didn't take flap.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
He fifty sucks, but.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
This song's great shazamin.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
And the next day when we.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Woke up, we checked our playlist. Every song sucks.

Speaker 7 (05:25):
And we.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Die laughing at the song. So the worst songs written recorded,
I mean they are embarrassing. So I think that illustrates
that when you're high, anything sounds good. I mean they
are bad songs. We laugh about it all the time now,
I mean anything fallatable. When you're high and we were
dancing in our seats, we thought they were awesome.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
And now I don't know who set up the playlist
and has joy, but it is the best.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
So, you know, interesting, interesting.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
It's always have it off the.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I appreciate it. Thank you, ma'am, Thank you. Line five,
Hi Elliott the morning. Hey, Hey, who's this this?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Jamie said, yes, better or Richmond better high or better
not high?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
So if you're if you're not into.

Speaker 9 (06:20):
Like okay, if you're high and you're not ready to
listen to a certain genre, I feel like it's really
irritable and it can ruin your high. But if it's
what you want to listen to, then it's way better.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Sir, language language, Yeah, that's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
But if you are in the mood for it, it
makes it that much better.

Speaker 10 (06:42):
It does.

Speaker 9 (06:43):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Interesting, interesting, you know what. I'll take that and I'll
tell you.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I see. I don't know if I'm the anomaly there
or not.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But like like, for example, like I don't have a
ranking of like I like this the most, and then
this is the most, and then this is the most.
But like I mentioned country music, right, like I like
country music, but when I'm high, not really, I like
country not high. I like country music a thousand times
better than I like a lot of classic rock. But

(07:13):
I'm more likely to dibble into a classic rock world.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
But does that Met'll all go all boat. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
And it also can be the life experiences you attach
with the happiest moment.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, and so if you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Classic rock, maybe that was what was on the radio
when you are in your heydays.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Okay, I can give you that. I can give you that.
Like I don't seek out a lot of classic rock.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Josh from down the Hall. Rites, of course music sounds
better when you're high. How do you think I've seen
Dave Matthews band forty five times?

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Wait, Josh gets high.

Speaker 11 (07:50):
I was shocked at that post too.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
I thought he can't because of the kidney thing. Was
this prior to the donation, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
But all I know is that I am going to
just shot gun joints into his face.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, you don't know if it would have a negative
effect on one kidney.

Speaker 11 (08:10):
Would would you be told that by a doctor like.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yes, this day and age.

Speaker 8 (08:15):
Yes, Well they're going to tell anybody not maybe not
to smoke unless you need it medicinally, right what now?

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Though, I don't think doctors would tell.

Speaker 11 (08:24):
You that, But would they say specifically.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, maybe leading up to it, like we don't want
to touch yeah, not prior kidney out.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
No, But I'm saying like after you're healed and everything's done.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
The only reason that it's surprising unless he's doing like
edibles and stuff like that, because I remember Josh, I'm
not trying to blow up your spot. But I remember
Josh wanting to bum a cigarette from me, even after
he had told me that he can't smoke because of
the kidney transplant, and he was trying to bum a
cigarette off me, and I told him no that I
wasn't going to be I wasn't I wasn't going to

(08:57):
be an enabler.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
No, I did it. So I don't know. So maybe
he's doing a lot of edibles, But the study you say,
has the Oh, there is a definitive answer. What is
the method of consumption? Wait, I'm looking. They go back

(09:21):
and forth.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh you know what, they just say cannabis okay, which lad,
which leads me to think mostly smoking, even though it's
not all smoking.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Doesn't have to no, I know. But they go with
people that are strictly edibles. I know.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
You see Chrisier's post yesterday. No, what he's got growing
at his house?

Speaker 8 (09:43):
Yes, he was saying it was harvest time. Well, because
it's sover October right.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh Jesus Christ, Oh my god. Yeah, he's got quite
the operation.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh my god. There are nurseries that aren't that.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
So he's ready to not drink for a month.

Speaker 11 (10:04):
He's enjoying that empty nest.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Line grinder. Hi, yelliot in the morning. Hi is this me?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah? Hi?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Who's this?

Speaker 7 (10:20):
This is Christian from Pilatan.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yes, sir, so.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
On the I'm actually a musician and like on this
topic of listening to music while getting high, right, and
I would also argue that playing music while high is
also a wildly different experience than when you're.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
High, is it.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Wait, so it's a wildly different experience when you're high
versus when you're not high. As a musician, would you
say it's if people if people are saying it's a
better listening experience being high versus not high. Are you
saying as a musician, it's a it's a it's a
better experience high or not.

Speaker 10 (11:02):
I would say I think it's better because Okay, Like
I have what's called chromoesthesia, So like when you when
I listen, I can see colors right right.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
And sometimes when I'm high, like also depending on the genre,
but when I'm high, like the colors are more vivid
or you see like colors that you wouldn't normally see
when you listen to music. That's like, I don't know,
or when you're not high.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I guess I gotcha.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I would be afraid that being high, like I would
mess up playing. I'm also not a musician, or maybe
it's just so much muscle memory that whatever, it's fine,
but I would be afraid that I would mess up
the slightest fog. Yeah, yeah, like I would. I like
that would be my concern.

Speaker 7 (11:52):
It's it's I don't I will say this. I don't
get high anymore, but when I do, Like it was
kind of it depends on like maybe the environment. So
like if you're playing, like if you're going to go
to a concert, it's it's risky because you know you're
either going to enter the like I would say, it
makes it easier to enter a flow state, right, But
I get that, you know, the pressure is also on, right,

(12:13):
the pressure is also on, so you could kind of,
you know, maybe not do so well.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, no, And I get that. I understand what you
thank you sir.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Not from a musician standpoint obviously, but I get the
like that flow state thing. But I would be afraid,
like these people spent I mean, my band isn't that big,
but they still spent money. Yeah, like to come see.
I don't like, I don't want to make a mistake,
Like I'm still trying to grow the band, so I
don't want to make no mistakes.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
But don't all So, depending on the style of music,
it can definitely foster creativity.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So if you're having these.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Long so like a jam band out instrumentals, right, it's
different than maybe using it just in the studio for
creativity's sake and then trying to reproduce what's on the record.
Maybe that's how Dave Matthews got through seeing Josh in
the crowd forty four times.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Oh god, he has commented and explained that nicotine is
different than weed.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah, but so he's allowed to do weed.

Speaker 11 (13:15):
So the doctor said cigarettes are fine.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
No, no, wead is fine. That's what he's saying.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
No, no, no, he's saying that weed is fine. Cigarettes
are not.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I see. So he's allowed to smoke up. I guess
so I had no idea. Keeps it quiet?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah he does? Until now about Josh big pothead X.
Does Josh come to work high?

Speaker 2 (13:39):
No? Oh, you know that two minutes ago we didn't
even know he got high. That's true.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Line seven, Hi, elliot in the morning, I got you.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Who is this? Hey?

Speaker 6 (13:54):
This is Rob?

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Hey, what's going on? Dude?

Speaker 9 (13:57):
So what? I listened to music and I'm stoned. My
imagination runs wild, right, So I think I sing better
than every single person that I'm listening to, of course,
and I think that, you know, and I think that
it sounds better. I'm I'm kind of a creative person.
So when it when i'm when those type of things
are happening, my creativity is going crazy. And then all

(14:20):
of a sudden, like serie talks, the song goes out,
and I sound horrible. I don't sound anything like the
person I'm trying to sound like.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
So right, but Hi, you were a dead ringer.

Speaker 9 (14:31):
Oh better, I'm better better better better.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Uh all right, very good, very good, thank you sir.
So what does the research say?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Neuroscientists have confirmed what every stoner already knows. Music sounds
better when you're high. And this was done by a
bunch of neuroscientists who released a paper called Exploring the
Interaction between Cannabis, Hearing and Music. They get into like

(15:04):
areas that are like, for example, the themes of their
of what they found is altered cognitive process and reinterpretations,
auditory perceptual effects from new sensations to sensory overload, emotional openness,
sensitivity and regulation, and embodoment immersion and out of body disassociation.

(15:25):
But what they found is a couple of things. People
tend to get deeper into lyrics and maybe understand the
meaning of the lyrics more so than they might just
on the surface, or if they hear them at all,
People will find that they, like other people said, they

(15:47):
hear things that they wouldn't normally hear like that flute
and that Kenny Chesney song. I'm also able to connect
different things that I wouldn't normally connect for music. That
could be things like scales, rhythm patterns, harmonies and how
they're all coaligned together that normally I just wouldn't have
paid attention to.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
So there you're talking the theory of music. That's pretty good.
So it's settled. Yeah, get high. Hear that, Tyler. But
it did make me feel bad.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
No, but it made me feel badly about myself because
I don't know, other than limiting the amount of genres
that I enjoy, I don't know that I notice a
big discernible difference.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
But your but maybe I do. Your house does not
believe in science.
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