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October 7, 2024 39 mins
Uncovering the truth after they're covered in dirt.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jessica Waite. She wrote a book and I don't know
her as an author. I've never even heard of her
in my life, but she wrote a book about her like.
She's a youngish woman, right, I'm trying to remember how
old she was.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
She was young when her husband died. So she's a widow.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, yeah, but it's what happened when her husband died
that weirded me out. So they live in Calgary, Calgary
in very close to Alberta in Canada, very close to
Edmonton where that.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Pizza is that I want to eat.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Anyway, Sorry for your loss, Yeah she is, no, no, no, no,
get ready for this. So she and her husband live
in Calgary and her husband travels for business a lot.
They've been married for seventeen years and they I think
they have they either have one or two kids. It
doesn't matter. Well, I mean, I guess it does, just

(01:01):
to paint the picture, but it doesn't. So anyway, he
is in Houston on business and while he's in Houston,
and this part sounds very tragic and very sad, and
it is, he ends up as suffering a massive heart
attack and dies while he's on a business trip in Houston, Right,

(01:25):
so anyway, needless to say, you can imagine she is devastated. Devastated.
So she finds out her husband has died. It's horrible,
and she's like, you know what. She gets on his
computer and is like, I'm going to find a like
his at home. I'm going to find a place where

(01:51):
I can do like like some kind of funeral home
or maybe her plan was, excuse me, get him cremated
and then have the ashes thrown back and kind of
research that. And she says, quite honestly, I was so
I was so off guard and blindsided. I don't even
know really what I was doing. So anyways, she sits

(02:15):
down at his computer at home. She pulls up the
Internet and she starts typing, and she wants to look
up Houston funeral homes. She gets h o out and listen,
everybody has searched the Internet. Things start to fill in
based on previous searches. So she starts to type in Houston,

(02:37):
and as Houston starts to go, it fills in, and
it also fills in Houston.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Escorts, Oh, and that was from the shared a shared computer,
not not Google, guessing what she was searching.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, that's from a history and that's where she found
out that he had been for year on these business trips,
living this kind of secret life. And she had no idea,
no idea to the point where she was like, I

(03:15):
don't even know what to what to do with this,
Like she had no clue, so she didn't lined sided.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
But no, she's immediately seeing that in history and figured
out from that one.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
No, Then she starts she's like, oh, well, this is odd.
So then she starts looking into what happened while he
was in Houston on this business trip, and she starts
digging in through receipts and bank accounts, and it starts
showing up where dinners for two, champagne prosecco in the hotel,

(03:52):
like all kinds of stuff, where she was like, if
she wouldn't have discovered that, if he was on a
business meeting and gone out to dinner and saw dinner
for she'd be like, yeah, she never suspected anything. So
I got really well, first of all, could you imagine
wouldn't forget husband or wife, anybody you know, finding out

(04:14):
after they died that they lived a completely second life.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I wouldn't even know what to do. Would you rather
find out dead or alive.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
That's a great question. Dead because don't ruin my life
while you're alive.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
I mean, it's still gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
But I kind of.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know why, and I don't know why. I'm gonna
tell you why. By the way, can I tell you?

Speaker 6 (04:48):
Can?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I can?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
I give you a little bit more of her story.
So she has them cremated. But and there's gonna be
the celebration of life in everything because people don't know
see and tell anybody, well eventually, yeah, everybody.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
The It was like I might tell a couple of friends.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
I don't know if I'm gonna like make that, make
that known at like a memorial service.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
While she had his ashes, she got so angry.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
She didn't know what to do, Like think about it,
you can't you can't get what are you gonna do?
Go punch a wall. So she was so angry she
didn't know what to do. She cut open the bag
of the ashes, and she took a bunch of the ashes,
and she mixed it in with dog crap.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
She mixed it in with dog crap.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
So at least she got like the last word, and
that way she ate some of the ashes, all right,
that's weird.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
The not the mixed one, the no, no, she do
their dog crap.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
But she ate some of the ashes. Is that the
thing I've never that I've never.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Heard of even anger or ashes sometimes consumed to I
know they've been I know they've been smoked.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
We send them people put them in tattoo, ink and.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Right jewelry to eat them. No, I would, if anything,
I would think it's against the law. You can't eat ashes.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
But she was so pissed she would yeah, I mean
she didn't know. She like her. Anger got the best
of her.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I think anger is a part of the natural grieving process.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
But found out that he lived a double LEAs he's
grieving on a whole other level. Why Christian, will you
do me a favor? Will you see if you can
find me somebody who learned of somebody's secret life after
they died, And then I'll tell you why you want
to find out when they're dead and not alive. I'm
going to tell you that. But if well, if there's
somebody who found it, it doesn't have to be a spouse.

(06:34):
It could be a parent, it could be a child,
it could be a friend, it could be anybody. But
somebody that would matter. Like if I found out who's somebody,
who's somebody here? If I found out Dustin was living
a separate, a secret life after he dies, I would
love it for the gossips. But other than that, I
wouldn't care. Now, I'd be like, who cares?

Speaker 5 (06:57):
No, But if it's like it's but.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
If it's somebody where an impact you, I'd be like,
oh my god.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean, and it has to happen right the dog?
New's funny?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
The is it?

Speaker 6 (07:07):
But I.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Probably gave her a little bit of satisfaction.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
She said for you, She said it did.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
If it was you and and you were the bad
guy in all this, I'm gonna take take some mashes
to Fenway.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Because that's how you're gonna get you.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
It would just like I just like I was eating
those escorts alive.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Like that, that's kind of like a little nice dough
with an fu at the end of let.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Me backup, do we know anybody this happened to? Over
the years, We've heard stories. No, do we know anybody?
But no, no, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I I racked my brain because I got so obsessed
with this, here's why you would rather find out? And
I got some people again eight six six to Elliott
eight six six two three five five four six eight.
But I will tell you why you would rather find
out dead. So let's say you find out and they're alive. Right, yeah, Well,
now now comes you fighting? Now comes are you gonna

(08:06):
Are you gonna stay with the person? Are you gonna
try to go through counseling?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Are you gonna go?

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Are you just gonna get a divorce? Now I got
a custody battle? If there's kids, I'm embarrassed around my family?
How do I how do I bring this guy to
the rest of my family? Like all these things? Am
I gonna cover? Am I not gonna cover? Am I
gonna be honest? Because sometimes that may if I stay
with it, that makes me look bad? How were you
so stupid?

Speaker 7 (08:30):
Now?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I get that it's answering a lot of questions. I'd
rather just be dead.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
But my life, there are people who would want the
chance to confront the unfaithful.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Absolutely absolutely just to say f you. And that's why
you just mix their ashes with dog crap. Maybe Diane's right,
What did they hate? And that's where you put some
of the ashes. Yep, but that doesn't get the back.
It makes them feel better, does it. You're gonna feel
better putting my ashes at Fenway?

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Oh yeah, knowing how much you hate.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
That place, that would be that's going to make you
feel good.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
That would be you're still going to No, but you're
still there.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Us for cheating on me for seventeen years.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
You're still going to wrestle with stuff? Or you know
now that everything I've all of the money is mine.
Now I'm going to buy stuff you hated as long
as I wanted it, buy stuff you want. Well, that's
what I'm saying. Like, but but cherry on top is
if you would have been like, oh, that's that's a
you know, unnecessary purchase. Oh yeah, f you you know
it was unnecessary hookers.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
So you're going to go redo the my man cave?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Despite she should?

Speaker 5 (09:41):
No, I would, there would There would definitely be purchases.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Out of spite healthy living.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
It's pretty mixed. Uh who wants them finding out when dead?
And who wants to find out a lie?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Really? Yes?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Because you think of there are so many unanswered questions.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah, I don't need the answer to but a lot
of people do.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Why is because they'll struggle with that, not knowing more
so than they they would let me answer those questions.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Got the answer he did this pen in another ink?
Well there, what what other questions do you want? Who
hit on who? How many times I can create? I
can create the sordid storyline.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You don't want to do that?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Though you don't want to, I'll just say, you know what,
this is how it happened. No, but they always say
that is worse than reality.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
We're still thinking dead.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Where are you alive or dead?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I feel like alive because because they got off easy,
they can get off easy.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
They're dead, I know, no, but they didn't have to
answer for their life.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
You know what getting off easy is continuing to do it.
It's like when criminals kill themselves.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
It's like they don't have to sit up there and
hear about all the people they've wronged in a trial.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I here, I like when they off themselves in jail.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
So they got a little bit of a sentence.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yes, well, no, they got their sentence, but some of them, yes,
and they have to the family and all that.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yes, Eric says, you get half in a divorce, you
get it all in the will.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's a good one.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Hugh also writes, when he dies and you cremate him,
can you also do his iPad?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
And by the way, I don't expect anybody to call, but.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I would love I would love to hear from somebody
living a secret life right now, I know, but nobody's
going to call now and go when I died, my
husband's going to be really shocked.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Peanut has a theorist to why she ate the ashes?
Do you have why she ate them? Or she just
ate them in.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
A ring, just in a rage?

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Why Peanut says she ate them so she could crap
them out?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Oh exit wound?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
What actually?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
When like that ice raad? No, I need to get
the sense that was the reason.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
And eating ashes apparently, and it's not reference in stories
of rage, but it is definitely something that's come up before.
We're not with us maybe, but where people are talking
about how that's a way to celebrate memorialize the person.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's cultural. No, I didn't say that, I'm just reading
random stories.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Wait to to memorialize somebody, you eat their ashes, not.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
All of them, and one's sitting this person they were
nibbling on them.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
That's cannibal.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Like that, I guess that would even though it's cremains,
that would still maybe fall under the cannibalism umbrella.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Right, how about abuse of corpse? Okay, so now this
the woman in your story you're going after for no
she had well she also mixed it in with you do.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
What makes you feel good. If that's what you want
to do, do it.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I'm sorry, Christian, where'd you say?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Elliot the morning?

Speaker 8 (13:14):
Hey, how's it going good?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Who's this?

Speaker 8 (13:17):
I've got a good story for you.

Speaker 9 (13:19):
So, my my mother's father, when he passed away, my
grandmother went through his stuff and found six different passports.

Speaker 8 (13:28):
It turns out he was a Russia. He was a
spy for the.

Speaker 9 (13:32):
US in Russia, and nobody had any idea the entire time.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Wait, so is he like Cia?

Speaker 8 (13:39):
He was? He was NSA.

Speaker 9 (13:41):
We knew he worked for the NSA. We just we
we thought that he had a totally different job and
he was spying. He was like, he was in Russia
for like years spying and nobody had any idea. He
had a bunch of awards and he had.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
A totally different life.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, now I will say this, that is like I
don't know that you can get mad about that, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Like if I like, there's keeping family in the dark
for security reasons.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah, Like for example, a lot of people believe I'm
CIA in that this this disc jockey job is just
my cover.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
But I understand that.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Like if part of your job is like we don't
live in that world of NSA, thank you sir or CIA,
but part of that is secretive, So I may not
be able to tell Diane that I'm living in Russia.
Although haven't we also heard that you could tell your
immediate spouse.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
I think it depends. It depends on what your assignment is.
I'm so pissed. I wouldn't I'd be honored. I really would.
I would like.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
When you guys find out what my real job is. Wait,
I'm a spy.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
But wouldn't you if you're saying, oh, your real job,
wouldn't you then look at the life you've created with
this partner and wonder? Am I just a player in
this play?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I know somebody that used to live in that world.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And I felt like Jackie and I like there was
somebody we knew and we knew they were CIA, but
we didn't know what their job was. I have since
found out, But like he would introduce us to people
and Jackie and I would be like, did he get remarried?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Like it was very bizarre. It was very bizarre.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
So I never even asked, like, you know, hey, how's
your old lady? Like forget names, but just even a person. Yeah, right,
But yeah, I know, I wouldn't want Jackie to think,
even if it came, even when it comes out, I
wouldn't want Jackie to think that I didn't marry. It
would have been easier for me to stay single and
not have to lie to anybody. You can still love

(15:47):
even though you're not honest. Yeah, but depending on the scenario.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Older single people may raise suspicious concerns more than a
married parent.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yes, and he could be or he couldn't be. Hi,
Ellie in the morning, is this me? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Who's this?

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
This is Sarah, Yes, Sarah.

Speaker 7 (16:21):
So my little sister had something similar happened. Her husband
was not working one day and was driving somewhere and
flew through the windshield of his sport Mustang and died.
When she got his phone back that night, once of
women started calling him and find out he was also
seeing prostitutes. So that messed up my little sister pretty bad.

(16:50):
But he then also left all of his money to
his mom, so she didn't get anything from his death.
But now she is getting married in two weeks to
a fireman. So can I.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Ask a couple of questions?

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Of course?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And I don't. I don't want you to take offense
because I'm a journalist. Number one, Number one is he
Number one? Does she wish that?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well? How did she? Because all those women were calling,
all those women were.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Calling, and they were nasty, Like one woman was like
telling her things that she didn't need to know.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Her husband's dead, Like.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Why are you telling him her anything?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Did she tell Did she tell the hooker that?

Speaker 7 (17:34):
No? I think she just ended up hanging up on him.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right, See so in the defense of the hooker, they
didn't know what was going on.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
I'm not defending the hookers.

Speaker 7 (17:42):
No, they didn't know that he was married, right, I.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Hey, what is the does she does?

Speaker 1 (17:52):
She does?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Your sister wish she.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Would have learned about his secret life while he was alive.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
Maybe a little bit so she could confront him. But like,
since he's dead, she just kind of wipes her hands,
and she did a beautiful funeral for him, beautiful funeral
for that man.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Did she know because she knew that night? She knew
that night.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
Mm hmmm, she knew that night.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Let me inter rept real quick, Diane, Yes or no?
Are you still going to have a beautiful funeral for
your deceased husband?

Speaker 5 (18:28):
Now I'm a dial that backup.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
It really in my head. I'm not even having a funeral.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
I would still have a memorial service.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
I don't think I would. You're going to be confronted
with some question, remember, yeah, no, and I would answer
why would I? Why would I give that? Yeah? Because
he's a piece of garbage. Did she tell a lot
of the family and friends.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
No.

Speaker 7 (18:49):
The only people who know are my mom's side of
the immediate family like her. His mom doesn't know even
right now, even right now, it's been three years.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Do you have the number? I'll gladly conference you with.

Speaker 7 (19:04):
Oh, man, what I wouldn't give because that woman after
he died, asked for all kinds of stuff that they
had given to them, like wanted it all back. Yeah,
I mean, like my poor little sister.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
I'm like, hey, was it was it hard for your sister?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
To date again.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
So that's what's really weird. My little sister is like,
she's very BookSmart, so she does not date. She ended
up going online because of what happened. I think it's
hurt her so bad. She just wanted to talk to
somebody and ended up meeting with firemen and they hit
it off and they started hanging out like two weeks

(19:44):
after they met, and they got engaged six months after
they knew each other. Like it is, and it's going great.
I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Beautiful, Yeah, beautiful, it really is. I love it. The
let Me, let Me asked Diane and Tyler a question.
So in this case, they did not tell the dead
husband's parents or family. Wouldn't would you tell?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I don't know why he gets to take that to
the grave, so you would tell, well part of it?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Can I play? Can I play Devil's advocate? I would tell.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Immediately and in a in a nasty way. I may
fly a plane over their house like I would be
so I would be like people would go the wrong
one died, you know what I mean, Like I would
be so nasty about how that happened.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Now I would, However, those are the whisteners you want
at a service.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
No, but don't.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
They say a lot of times telling only helps you,
but you're not really, But it's it's kind of selfish.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
To tell or not to tell. To tell, it is selfish.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, they'll say a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Excuse you, they'll say a lot of times, it's selfish.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's okay, that's okay.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
It's selfish to tell because all you're really doing is
hurting other people in an attempt to make yourself feel better.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I get that. Yep, yeah, I mean then that's exactly
what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Right, So you're saying that why hurt others just for
your that just for your own well being.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
But I'm also explaining why it's not the funeral you
may have expected. Like, I don't want questions asked to me.
I did nothing wrong, right, Yeah, So I'm telling you
why this is the reality now that we're we are
living in.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
But I'll tell I'll tell you this.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
There will be some people, and ma'am you may know
this and going through it with your little sister, there
are some people who will back door whisper.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
How is she so stupid? She didn't know?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
But then those are bad friends and family members, But
they are people. They so they were in on them.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
No, I'm just telling you that there are people who
will go I would know if my spouse did that.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
How did she know? Okay, so these are people who
helped cover from them. These are just people.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Who are These are just critical because.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Your backdoor whispers. Backdoor whispers. Yeah, God, I love the story.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
If you guys ever ever change your mind and you
want his mom to know, let me make that call.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
I will do it for you. Elliott. All right, you're
the one who I would want to tell her.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Thank you, thank you, and I hope I hope the
wedding is great. Oh hey, one other question, did your
sister with his ashes? Did your sister do anything weird
like eat them or anything?

Speaker 7 (22:34):
No, that crazy girl actually has them around her neck.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Your sister is her cheating husband's ashes around her neck.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
Yep. And if you guys knew, his pictures are still
up at my parents' house.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh no, and your parents?

Speaker 8 (22:49):
No parent?

Speaker 7 (22:51):
Oh yeah, my mom is. It's the fact that my
mom has them up still, Like, I can't believe it
because my mom was on that man when she found out.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Do they not hate him as much as I do?
I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
That the new firefighter husband, that's could be awkward for him.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, yeah, but it's death. It's completely different.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
It's completely But I'm sure he knows the backstory, does he?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Does the firefighter know what happened?

Speaker 8 (23:17):
You know?

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Honestly, I don't know if he does.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
Oh my god?

Speaker 7 (23:22):
Does he probably doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
I would say it was that final detail about that
very specific amulet.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Who you were talking about. Oh my god, Oh my god.
Oh now the parents.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Again, just a slap in the face to her.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Why why she's wearing the neck he's wearing the necklace.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I hate to speak ill of your sister, but and
your family, but I gotta, I gotta, I gotta.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Slap some sense into him or something. But now I'm
a boor whisper.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
But there are people who believe in the sanctity of
marriage so much they look past infidelity. So if he
was still alive and she discovered this, do you think
they would still be married? They would not operate because
of question.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Oh, that's that's a very good question. I honestly don't know.
My father was not the best dad and husband, so
I don't know if that would be brushed aside or not. Honestly,
my little sister is a very strong human being. So
I see her not letting him stay. Okay, like she
was the breadwinner in that family like that man.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
She bought her.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
She bought herself.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Correct, she did.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
I hit that.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I do too. I was so team's sister. But now
she's fudging me back the other way. I cannot tell
someone how to greet I am. Actually we do it
a lot. I just remind you of the old adage.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
All right, very good.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
I were married for thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Big whoof you could have told me they were married
for one hundred years? All right, all right, keep me,
keep me posted. And if anybody, if I need to
stand up and speak at the wedding, I will Oh
horrible timing. Elliott, oh, Elliott, all right, very good, very good,
thank you?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Oh my god. There was a lot.

Speaker 6 (25:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
And and by the way kind of thrown at me
at the end. M I didn't expect that twist. Would
you keep the pictures up? If I'm in the parents?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
So I am, you're her parents and the guy was
living like that, cheating? Oh what, No, I'd burn those photos.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I'd burn them.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
And she said the parents were upset. Yes, it's not
like they she gave him.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I wouldn't even I wouldn't even give him or her
if if it were with me, I wouldn't give her
the dignity.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Of a of a funeral. I'd piss on her ashes.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Now did she say if there were grandchildren? I didn't ask,
because are those photos of their grandchildren's.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Bother don't care. I'd still get rid of them.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Just trying to think of a reason or justification, I'd
still get rid of them.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I'm not keeping the grandparents around.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I would be like your grandparents are, would still be involved? No, no,
I would say, you can't be involved in them at all,
Like that's.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
A cut them off from their grand It's.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
A horrible family. Wait, no, these are her parents.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Yeah they didn't.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, no, no, that's fine. I'm talking about his parents.
Oh yeah, no, I cut that right off. I cut
that off my own parents. We don't go to that house.
You come to me. I'm not gonna put them. I'm
not going to let them see pictures of their dad.
Their dad was garbage. God, you're more into the caller
story than your story. I really am, I really because

(26:47):
I now I'm now I know someone where am I
going line three?

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Although she didn't eat the ashes?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Hi elliot in the morning, Yeah, Hi, who's this?

Speaker 8 (27:01):
Might not say? I had a body of mine. He
passed away quite a few years ago. He was on
the job and long story short, he got injured and
he had a very large safe full of strippers, panties

(27:23):
and polaroids that he were up on the job and
after his wife after he passed away, do the injuries
he's been at work. His wife found him before we
could get to them.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Wait a minute, you knew you knew that this safe
of panties existed.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
Yeah, he told us before. So he went to go
into surgery. He said, I'm gonna come out so and
he told us that, hey, this safe is there and
I need it gone. If something were to happen to
me before we could get to his house, everything she
founded ten hundreds of polies.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Hey, let me ask you this, did you guys play dumb?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Like?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Would she like like? Were you.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
That he loved? Well?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Maybe he did. I mean that's a possibility too, could Yeah,
both could be true?

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Right the really, Diane, would you be accepting of that?
When I said, I didn't say I would Scott loved
you and stripper panties. Oh my god, so everybody played dumb.
Did the wife did the did the widow? Did she
say anything to anybody?

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (28:38):
Absolutely absolutely? And she won't. I mean she won't talk
to us. We know of for years and won't speak
to us.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Why why not didn't you already told her you didn't
know anything about it.

Speaker 8 (28:51):
She doesn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
So that was that was the first time you were
aware of this life he was living.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
And he hadn't hit him in his closet like I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
But what Tyler, what Tyler is saying is when he
went into surgery and said, hey, I need this safe removed.
It's got this, this and this and it is that
the first time you guys had ever heard that he
had or that kind of life to him at all, that.

Speaker 8 (29:23):
Life to him, I mean that he actually kept proof
of it.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yes, but you knew that he had that he had
been with like strippers and hookers and stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (29:35):
Yeah, not so much hookers, but here where he worked
there was there was a plucker of uh strip club.
So ay's way around him.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Okay, Well that doesn't that doesn't mean anything. That doesn't
mean anything.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
If you were in this position and tasked, Thank you, sir,
thank you with getting rid of evidence?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Would you do it?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Odd choice of the word evidence, it's because it's not
really evidence.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
But I understand what you mean to the marriage.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Because I could almost I would. I would hate being
a co conspirator in this. But to to protect the
spouse's well being, who's already obviously distraught beyond with an
early death of a partner.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Why spike the football in the end zone? Would you
do it?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Not to so much hide that person's truth, but to,
like I said.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Protect the white the partner H frame that way? Yes, well,
which way are you positioning?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
It doesn't matter, That's what I'm going with. Yeah, I
think I'm Yeah, what if I say yes, I sound
like a bad person.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I don't think so. I I think I would, which
is very not like me. I would also try to
intervene if I thought it was going to ultimately affect
someone's health beyond what's already transpired. You just wonder if
it could set them over the ledge.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (31:20):
My you know what my problem would be is I
wouldn't be answering that question one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
In one field, What does that mean.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Like, if you did it one hundred percent to protect
the wife, then you're doing it for the r Well
what a better reason, right, I don't know if it's
the right reason. I don't know what somebody would say, like,
you should know how your spouse was living, But I
don't know that I would be doing that. There might
be ten percent of me that's doing it to hide

(31:50):
it for my buddy, Okay, but I would one hundred
percent say that I was doing it to protect his wife.
But I bet there are some people that would say, no,
you know what they she should know the bad.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
If an ounce of me thought I was doing it
as a favor to my dead friend, I would do it.
I'm not hiding your life. But am I doing it
one hundred percent for the spouse, then I might consider.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, me too. Wow, he said, I'm sensing a little
eighty five to fifteen.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
This is where we're gonna split short and curlies. Come
on now. By the way, I could do these stories
all day. I get so wrapped up in them, and
I love the hypotheticals that come along with it. But
I don't think any answer makes you a bad person. No, No,
Because we also don't know, we've never been there. I
will say this, though, I'm not keeping pictures up in

(32:50):
the house and wearing his his I'm so stuck on
that woman with his ashes around her neck.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Look what he did to you.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Do you know the hatred I would have for Jackie
if she was doing that to me? Of course, like
I don't. I wouldn't have a memorial service unless it
was to announce how bad of a person she was,
and I would do it in front of her entire family.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Gosh, how much would Diane hate that book, because we
know she reads the end first, and then she'd read
the whole book and not understand why that person was
still wearing that necklace. Trash literature.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Hi Elliott the morning.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Hello, Oh Hi is that me?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
It is on the line, Yes, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
Oh okay, I'm going to keep anonymous. But I heard
earlier your earlier show, more than now. But I think
it's very right now it's feeling very, very entertaining. But
early on I was thinking that, you know, whoever did
the friend of that husband that did all this cheating
and all that, and he didn't a wife find out?

(34:01):
But my my thing is the guy already did, so
that's a punishment. And secondly, there must be a problem
with the marriage if the guy have to cheat on
your wife like that, or maybe if there's a illness.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
That well, okay, you know what these are all these
are all fair points.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
No, nobody said that if he's got an illness. If
I get the flu, is that your fault?

Speaker 1 (34:22):
I mean, if you gave it to me, then yes,
maybe you didn't give it to me, so he was cheating, right.

Speaker 6 (34:29):
But it's just so, it seems so something is wrong
with the marriage if the guy have to go and
cheat on like that, sot me, will you cheat on
your wife like that?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
What I know?

Speaker 6 (34:39):
Never never exactly, So somebody's that's unusual, right, he does,
very unusual cases that.

Speaker 8 (34:45):
We're talking about.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
You are you married? Are you married? I'm not going
to say, well, no, no, no, it matters. It matters.
I'm not going to ask you to give away a lot.
Are you married? No, you're not. Have you ever been married?

Speaker 6 (35:00):
I'm scared of thereage, No I have. I have family
that I've seen that scared the hell out of me,
just like what you're saying. And no, it could be worse.
So it's just to me. It's it's a very scary thing.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Marriage is.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yes, she said she'll blame herself for anything the partner does.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Right, No, that's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
But I mean, like, listen, if if Jackie were doing this,
I think I'm a good husband.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
I don't think I'm a great husband. Like, but I
think I'm die.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
She did she died right, well.

Speaker 9 (35:31):
I wouldn't you forgive her?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
No, forgive her? Are you kill I'd piss on her
ashes the no, No, But I wouldn't think she had
an illness.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not letting anybody off.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
The only thing that I was with you until you
kept talking, was that.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I think that we don't. I think that.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
What you said first though, is that death is a punishment,
is one hundred percent true. No, yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
No way.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I love living, there's absolutely absolutely death is a punishment.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
You get away with it.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
You're dead.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
No, you're dead and you're not.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
So let's say, let's say, what's something you really enjoy, Diane,
what's something you really enjoy.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Going on walks? What do you what do you want
to like it?

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Seriously?

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Like that's it. I'm going to a spa.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
The okay, so walking and going to a spa, what
do you want me to say, dry and callous from
those walks?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
The no.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
No, But I was gonna say, if you're dead, that's
a punishment, Like all these things in life that you
love are now gone. Living. I love living. I love living.
That's gone. So death is a bit of a punishment.
I understand. I was with you there and then you
went all sideways on. I got an addiction or there
was something wrong in the marriage, not you.

Speaker 7 (36:57):
But no.

Speaker 6 (36:59):
Yeah, by the way.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Even if there is even if there was something wrong
in a marriage, right, let's say you and I are married.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
They look it out or try.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Try the the the the the recipe for fixing isn't.
It isn't to go out and get a bunch of
poonani off the streets.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
What I'm saying is the merit is something wrong with
the Perhaps I mean, I'm just guessing. So the husband
with the I have to go out and cheat. Well,
I don't get that.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
I just don't get that.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I understand what you're saying. Now, I understand what you're
saying to you.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Extreme let me let me ask extreme, do you do
you date at all?

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Yeah? But but yeah, I'm not the type to just
go and sleep with people. No, I they I don't term.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yes, so you've had long term relationships, but you'll never
get married.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
But this is nothing.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Well, I don't have to get on my story. No,
I'm not okay, chances, but I just I couldn't. I
couldn't jump in. I just I just can't know that.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
No, No, you're you're You're better for knowing yourself that
you would be a bad wife.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Can I ask you.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
One other question? Can I ask you one other question?
It's one word. I'm going to put a question mark
at the end of it.

Speaker 6 (38:19):
Oh therotion anal?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
What anal.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Relationship? We're talking about right, like like a real relationship,
like man and woman right now? We're not talking about children? Yeah,
why not?

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Okay, very good, very good. I love you. I love you, ma'am.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
I don't think she's understood the question.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yes she did, Yes she did when she was like
like us.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
The strangest answer to that ever around telling my children, right, well,
I guess you're not.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Actually that's the way to prevent that.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Thank you, Thank you.
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