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October 10, 2024 16 mins
Hot sauce and the subjective experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You hate spicy food, right?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Not a fan?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Not a fan? Why?

Speaker 3 (00:05):
I just I don't like that My mouth burns after
I eat something, right, it bothers me.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I like stuff with a little spice to it, just
not a lot good.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
So you like spicy, just it's if you make my
mouth burn, I don't want it.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (00:20):
So there's a fine line. Yeah, do you think maybe
you go in thinking about it wrong? I always ask
if stuff is spicy, right, and but what is is
your bloody Verry spicy?

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Okay, but what is spicy to me may not be
spicy to you.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Right? Also, how do you think about spice?

Speaker 2 (00:40):
How do I think about it?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Right? I'm going to have you pull up a study
here in a second.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
So there was a guy who started like he was
going around yesterday day before.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
He ate.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Two pounds of hot sauce out in three minutes, he
ate siracha. Do you find siracha spicy?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Do you really? Now?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
They said to him, Hey, well, first they asked how
his butthole is, and he was like, you know what,
I don't I don't get that.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
I don't get that they don't get the question or
he does not actually experience.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
He does not experience ringsting. Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't
experience ringsting. But they said to him, how the hell
can you sit there and polish off two pounds of siracha.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
In three minutes?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
And the guy literally is double fisting spoons shoving it
in his mouth, and he said, I was able to
do it because I just imagined it was pumpkin pie,
his favorite food in the world. And a lot of
people were like, well, you're stupid. But then there was

(02:00):
this whole research that came out that said, while that
may not be one.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Hundred percent the case, Diane, look this up.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Positive thinking will cool down hot sauce.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So you can talk yourself out of it.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Not talk yourself out of it, think yourself out of it.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
I think Diane talks herself out of it when she
asks the server how spicy is it you're going in?

Speaker 3 (02:29):
But then I've had people say, oh, no, no, no,
it's totally fine, not spicy at all.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
And when you when you taste it, is it spicy
to you? Or no?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Maybe I mean not really right.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, But if they.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Said oh yeah it's spicy, number one, you would never
try it. But number two, it could be the same thing.
But in your head you're going in thinking.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
All right, god damn it, this is going to be spicy,
and what does that do? Ramps it up? But if
I said, no, are you kidding me? It's made for pussies?

Speaker 3 (03:00):
But I had people tell me no before, and then
I guess something. I'm like, yeah, it's too spicy for me.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
And you've then returned it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
But have you now what do you do? Just mush
it on your plate? Yep?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I mean if it's a if it's a bloody Mary,
I'm going to greatly dilute.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
It right with water.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
No, But what about like spicy food? What are you
gonna pour water on it?

Speaker 4 (03:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Then you're kind of soup out of luck.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Yeah, But what if your mindset was you know what
like And again I'm not talking about like you're eating
what was exit wound chili like, you're just eating like
it's like a spicy.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Like like pad Tie has your varying degrees of spiciness.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I have never had spicy pad tie. I've had I've
had pad tie that.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Is, we've had pad tie where and Scott like spicy
food where he's like that's too much.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Now I've had I've had pad tie that's spicy, but
I've never had pad like spicy pad tie.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
No.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Now, uh uh So does the positive thinking have to
be about the spices itself? Or is it more like
happy thoughts?

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Diane, you tell me.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Positive? I found? They said.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
They looked at forty seven participants who underwent brain scans
while tasting hot sauces of varying intensities. They said, to
create different expectations, they employed a design where participants were
given squirts of high intensity, low intensity, or water while
lying in an MRI scanner. Right and before each taste,

(04:38):
they were shown either neutral cues like a gray chili pepper,
or intensity cues like colored peppers that would indicate the
spiciness level.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Red then red Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right, Christi Kamier, by the way, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
They said this allowed them to examine how positive expectations
differed from negative expectation when faced with the same sensory input.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Oh so it's it's you thinking differently about the result,
not really the moment. So when you it is the packaging.
And we talked about that ice cream place. You mentioned
exit wounds like the waiver like it's it's right, it's
supposed to be spices.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
For the spice enthusiastic and cues that predicted a spicy
sauce actually led them to rate low intensity sauces as
being less spicy.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, because I'm I want it to be.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
But on the other hand, participants who dislike spicy.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Foods wimpy, wimpy wimpy.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
When they knew a spicy sauce was coming, they didn't
necessarily rate it as spicier, but they also said they
enjoyed it.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Less right because you're being scared. O. No, No, I'm
being serious.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Okay, Or just think of it as pumpkin pie, you said.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Or yeah, think of it as pumpkin pie. I brought
in a very very, very very because I know that
you're not a spice fan. I brought in a very
very mild spicy today because I wanted to see if this.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Would work like some hot sauce.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yes, but it's honestly, if like exit wound is bad,
this may as well be called happy entrance.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't believe you. What do you mean, because I
feel like you're setting me up.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, not at all, not at all. No, this isn't
like the one Chip challenge or nothing. This is not
at all.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Can't talk about that.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, I can't talk to him. Yeah, I can't talk
to him. I don't even know if he's here today.
Christ can you get me some spoons? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
And I'm telling is this going to ruin my day?

Speaker 4 (06:46):
How would this ruin your day? I told you have
to have something that is essentially water.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Okay, what do you do?

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Diana?

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Might help your bowel movements and you can book finally?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Great?

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Was that unsolicited advice, Diane?

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
It was.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Kristen, is somebody struggling right now?

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well, I have to go like this moment. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
So when you're like, oh, leave the phones, I'm like, oh,
I got a hold.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
You wouldn't know because I don't talk to people about that.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Well, I know. You go like, okay, Kristen, please all right?
So I brought in a really mild sauce.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
That is saracha.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh yeah, oh look at that. Yeah. I know a
guy that ate two pounds of this.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
So how long does Diane have for her two pounds?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Here?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Here we go, and see, Diane, what you're gonna learn
here is you're already see here's the problem.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You're already ramping yourself.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Up because I don't trust you.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
What's not to trust either?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
He just used that bottle, but he puts something else
in it most likely.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
No, no, no, no, I swear to I just threw.
I just threw the tabin here. Yeah, it's right here.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Hey, he fished out of the garden.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Joke on.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Now, wait, so how are you conducting this experiment?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, first, let's fill up it.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Oh my god, that's a lot of sauce.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I know a guy who eight two pounds of this.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Okay, are you handing these out?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Kristen? Here's your taster. You're welcome.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
What is her napkin for my mouth?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
My guard out of her mouth?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Here you go, Diane, I gave you the bait. I
gave you the baby servant.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
Don't spill half of it out, all right.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
I can tell it's spicy already just by smelling it.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Okay, this is where is this?

Speaker 7 (08:43):
Me?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Psyching myself out?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yes? Happy thoughts? Hey? Did everybody have a good Thanksgiving?
Who wants more pumpkin pie? Who wants more pumpkin pie?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Now you know he got his spitty.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Mouth right now?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Just so you know from what?

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because I'm anticipating this to be a bad experience.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Why would it be See, this is exactly the procect.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
You have hid the bottle from us. What the bottle
says like?

Speaker 1 (09:08):
It says hot?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It is this like some super hot seracha? No, this
is don't they have varying levels?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
This is too long hot siracha?

Speaker 5 (09:21):
Is this hoifong like the one that everyone gets?

Speaker 8 (09:24):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, yes, this is This sits on the table of
every Mexican restaurant.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, by the way, you know what I put that
in all the time?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well, I used to, I switch. I used to put
that in Caesar salads all the time. A dirty Caesar fantastic.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
I like some spice. And I'm starting to feel a little.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Sweaty because you're psyching yourself out.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
I know what we're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Kids eat this stuff. Kids eat this stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
This is gonna be a nice taste. Okay, you want
you want to do it? Cheers? No? No, before we
before we eat.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Have legit got spitting mount I can see that.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, why do you have spitting mountain?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't know, because I feel like I'm gonna throw.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Up from siraja.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
All right, let's just do this.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
Wait, what is Kristin ready. Oh yeah, you got your orthought.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Yeah, I'm looking at it.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That's right there on the table.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
All right, you're ready? Yeah, one, two, three, go? No, Diane,
you got it. You gotta don't just put it on
your lip o. Yes, Diane, Diane, Diane.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Right to the water bottle.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
There's heat that's really hot. But it went down a
lot easier thinking of as pumpkin.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
You're just envisioning pumpkin pie, pumpkin rolls, by the way,
get it?

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, exactly, Diane.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
You barely put it on your lips because it's hot.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
You did?

Speaker 5 (11:02):
She try to take the whole spoonful.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
No, no, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Maybe that's it. You got to put the whole thing in.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
You have a backup run for her?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I got one right here.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I'm not doing it, so try a little.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I'm gonna No, you're not, Diane, Come on, you're not
gonna throw up.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
I have a question, Diane, did you oh did you poop?
Did you envision a sweetness like even a cookie or anything?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I thought of trumble Connor.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
I did think of pumpkin pie as I was looking
at the bright red, hot sauce coming towards.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Do you like pumpkin pie? What's a dessert that you like?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Pumpkin pie?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
No, come on, you're at it. You're at a restaurant
called you know what.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Today is a good day because in addition to picking
up saracha, I also picked up this spoonful of crim brewlay.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Wait, Garth has a good idea, he said, why don't
we pull up a picture of Kevin the cat?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Oh that's good.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Would that help Diane?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:00):
Wait, hold on, pull that up. We'll show her that.
Here's the creme brewlet I brought in the what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I feel like I'm gonna throw up?

Speaker 4 (12:08):
No, La Perrot brought in crem brewlay, and I have
a nice spoonful for you right here. Yep, yeah, Oh,
careful because you don't want the glaze on top to
fall off.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Here Kevin, did you take a sip of water?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well in between?

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Okay, wait, did you get to her? No'h your coughing?
Do you want to be here?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Diane?

Speaker 5 (12:29):
The palette?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Come out toilet paper to cleanse the anus.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
I have a picture of Kevin. See oh it's already working.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
Yeah. See look how happy you are. You know what
Kevin likes. You're not looking Kevin. Kevin, ke No, Diane
over here. Kevin likes to lick the crem brewlat off
of your chin.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
I would talk to her like she does, Kevin.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
The Hi, Diane, Hi, Yane.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Well you're so sweet, Kevin, Diane, look at Kevin.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Look at me, Diane. Hi, I'm Kevin.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Uh huh, there's too much a casey enough. It's just
kicking Kevin.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
I'm so cute.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yes he is, Kevin, He's very cute.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You eat the whole thing. Look at me? Look at that?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Oh did you have the raspberry on top of the
krim brewet?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Did you have the raspberry?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Kevin wants to know if you had rashberry.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Maybe the impression was making it for sick.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Nope, one spoonful.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
That was not the full spoonful again, No, damn.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
I flipped my spoon over and put it on my tongue. Wow,
that's what you should do.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Just do it right now. She still has it on
the spoon. I'm gonna throw up again. She did the whole.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Spoon Look at animal.

Speaker 8 (13:52):
I'm sorry, Oh, Charlene yee, which, by the way, was
not the impression Elliott was doing.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, but you remember when she spin the garbage can?

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah, I just did.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
What are you doing? Over? There?

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Is your nose bleeding?

Speaker 1 (14:11):
No, that's the hot sauce coming out of it? Hi, Diana,
Kevin the here? You want to feel better? Look over
Kevin's shoulder. What do you see?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Come on, hey, you want to do it? Would it
be better? You know how? Like some No?

Speaker 4 (14:39):
No, no, but like how sometimes like when it's a
time out, Jade Daniels doesn't squeeze the gato bottle into
his own mouth.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Do you want me to just squirt this note?

Speaker 7 (14:47):
No? Okay, so you're disputing the finance, all right, what's wrong?

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Oh that's why I don't eat that stuff.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Well, not by the spoonful, but as a nice on
top it would be.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
I'll be honest. I think it was my favorite sampling
of serata ever.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Chris.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Yeah, it was more flavor than heat.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, you know why because it's that special hot sauce
infused crim brulett.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
Loved by Kevin.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
That if I kill Kevin, Yes, I would not let
you touch Kevin if you were going to threaten with
that Kevin.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Okay, so two things. Number one, out you all right,
a little nauseous? But the can I get you anything?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
No, I'm just gonna drink some water, okay.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Number two, the I was going to change up the
format a little bit. Do you want to go straight
into news now or do you still want that break?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
You need a man?

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Do you have the poops?

Speaker 2 (16:07):
No, Kristen, do you get the sting?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
All right, exit wound. Let's do this. Let's do this.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
We'll take a quick break. Good job, though, Diana, See
how that helped. Now, next time you're out, you'll be asking, hey,
y'all got any siracha
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