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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is there anybody listening that does one of two things
that is currently working on a book, like writing a book? Books?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, and I don't care what it's about, a.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Novel, a biography, like somebody who has taken me And
I don't mean like like Melter is listening at home,
but like, no, no, you know what I mean, like
somebody who is trying to write a book try it,
even if they're going to self publish it. Is there
anybody listening that's doing that?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Definitely?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You think so?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Absolutely? Really, I think you're going to be surprised how
many people chime is.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh, because I was going to say Part two? Is
there anybody listening that is a what would you call
them a regular journal?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Journal?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Or yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A lot of people do that every day every day.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yeah, like gratitude journals. What is that where somebody writes
down even if it's one thing, like one thing they
were happy that happened to them that day, grateful for whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
But is that journaling? Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, No, I mean yes, I guess that it would be.
But if you're just writing down like oh I'm happy
I didn't you know stub my toe today? I mean
somebody who is like I don't know what you would
be grateful for. But somebody who is like, like a like,
I don't want to call it a diary entry.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Nobody keeps diaries anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Same thing, diary journal whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
No, I know, but diaries at least makes you think
like they would write down like here's what happened today,
like a short version of here's what happened today, versus like, oh,
I'm thankful I wasn't in a car accident on the
way to work, which if that's your thing, but God
bless But like somebody who keeps like a journal of
here's what happened today, So.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That to me it sounds more like a log. It
has to be a recap of the day, not.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A recap of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But maybe not like well I woke up, I took
a piss, I brushed my teeth. No, but somebody who
was like, maybe, like I had a good day, here's
one or two things that happen you.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Can't write about, like goals and dreams.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I mean that may fit into it, like I so, okay,
that's fine, But I mean, well you can write about
a goal and a dream every single day.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, But I'm just saying to just.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Still dreaming about women. The power ball.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Just reflect on the day itself would limit you. You
certainly want to predict or maybe fortell of a future.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
All right, Kristen, find me somebody who is. I'll take
either one somebody who is who is either in somebody
who is in the process of writing a book or
is on the verge of ending it or maybe starting it.
Eight six six to Elliot eight six six two three
five five four six eight, or somebody is a regular journaler.
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I don't know what else to call it. That's right,
thank you, But I don't want it to be like
just you write down what you're thankful for that day
eight six six to Elliot six six two three five,
five four six eight line one, Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's that Ben? Hey?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Ben?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
How are you? I'm good? How's it going? What do you?
Are you a journaler? Or are you writing a book?
I've self published two books, about to do the third.
Have you really.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
What kind of books?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Science fiction?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Kind of? Can I ask you? This is it a
what got you started?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I've been writing so I was about seven, I guess goosebumps.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No, No, that's fine. Listen. You read that it inspired you.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Do you remember what month of the year you first
started writing your first book?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
October two thousand and five. I'm happy to hear that.
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And this is what I would ask people, is how
is your book coming along this month? Did you know
we are nearing the end of National Novel Writing Month?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I did not know that an appearance.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It took me a bit more than a month.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I don't think they expect anybody to knock the Hey,
have you made any money off your book? Has anybody
bought a single copy of your book?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yes, I've made a few buys.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, good for you, Good for you. I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you. Good for you. Thank you, sir,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I had no idea that November is National Novel Writing Month.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, it's a month that's set aside to kind of
get people started on writing a novel, like people who
think they have a book in them. And there's all
kinds of like for the month. There's all kinds of
like hints and tips and almost I don't want to
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call it classes, but ways to get so everybody always says,
I could write a book, I just don't know how
to start it write if I could get the first
three words, like and you're not going to start your
book once upon a time, but if you give forward,
if you could just get started, that you've got.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
A book in you.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So do you almost have like sponsors during this month
that check in on you to make sure you're being active?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I mean, I don't know if they check in on you.
But to be to be part of a group, to
be part of a a like somebody like like other writers,
so you're kind of in a group together.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Do they give you guidelines because you mentioned words? Do
they say like, oh, try to do this many words
the first day, and then this many words the second day,
just so you're continuing this journey and trying to side
stuff any writer's block or distractions.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure they do. I
don't know that is there a certain number of words
I'm supposed to write every day?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I feel like you think you have a book in
you now? Serious? No, you don't think you have a
book at all.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
No, you don't think that if you if you could
break down that first wall, you don't think you have
a book in you, no, really novel, not like you have.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
A memoir in you.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
No I have. I would never write a book.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I I have a better chance of writing an eight
book series novel than I do a memoir. I would
never write it. And that's what I thought you were
going to say, I would never write a memoir.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So they want you writing sixteen hundred words a day.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No way, dude, do you know how many a's those
and hands I'm using.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You would then have a fifty thousand word novel by
the end of the month.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
By the end of the month of a novel, so
not the end of the novel, but you would have
completed that many pages.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
When the thirty days are.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Out, how many words are in a novel, I would
have guessed fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I don't know what the conversion is pages towards.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
If I wrote fifty thousand, I would think I just
wrote maybe the longest tome ever written.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
A lot of people so this is NANO ORHEMO dot org,
which stands for National Novel Writing Month. Yeah, there are
a lot of people who use this tool.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
To get started. I'm telling you, the hardest part is starting.
The hardest part of a journey is your first step.
Every marathon starts with one step. Every novel starts with
one word. Once So you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Can set writing goals and work at your own pace,
or you can, if you prefer the exquisite pressure of
an ambitious deadline and enthusiastic community egging you on, you
can follow what they want you to do.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
The whole push is this gets you started.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And they've got trackers that say you need eight hundred
words still today.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I would tell you that, and I think you, I
think you would be surprised, Like what, I don't know
what my favorite kind of book, Like, I don't I'm
not doing a nonfiction like that. You know how much
research and crap goes into that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
God tell us, what's this about? Citation?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, But like even Brad's fiction, right, he does so
much research.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
This all this all off my head. This is all
off my head.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But I I think if I I bet that if
I started writing, I would end up writing a genre
that I wasn't expecting to write.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
You just kind of fall into it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I think I would, Like, maybe I end up
writing like one of the greatest Westerns of all time.
And I'm not expecting to.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So, Diane, the book that you often cite as having
read because it was so long it took you a while.
This is Steve job As biography. Correct. Yeah, okay, so
that was six hundred memoirs memoir pages. But I'm just
giving you a sense of words and pages.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Six hundred and fifty pages is how many words?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Two hundred twelve thousand words, So if you do fifty thousand,
you're talking about one hundred and seventy five pages.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I feel like it took me like a year and
a half to read that book.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
If I if I wrote one hundred and seventy five pages,
I would celebrate like I would I would celebrate like
I was the first, like like I was a pioneer. Seriously,
do you know how proud of yourself you should be,
even if your book is garbage. You wrote one hundred
and seventy five pages of a book. You should You
should be alot work.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I didn't say it was easy, but don't you gather
that is the point of this exercise to get you
go along, just to get those juices flowing.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But are you just writing down? Write and down?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But that's for nobody's first works are going to the
top of the best seller charts.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh your may stopping? Okay, areas you say that?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Where am I going? Line for?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Elliott in the morning?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
All right, this is me?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, Hi?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This is Peter?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, Peter. What can I do for you? I can
tell you.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I can tell you right now.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
That is started as originally a contest that people, uh
actually spend months preparing, but starting on November first, they
go through and write the novel. It's it's got to
be fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Words and more.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
But a lot of guys, a lot of people do it.
It's a it's a very popular contest in.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The writing world. The this NEMO or whatever it's called.
What is it?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Elliott?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes, I don't know. Then I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Basically, it's you're writing and you're trying to write. The
contest is basically, you write a novel beginning in the
middle and end in a month. Now, it's got to
be at least fifty thousand words.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Did you do this?
Speaker 8 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I did.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
I didn't do it because I don't do fiction. I'm
nonfiction writer. I published a book back in January on
creating digital paintings, and I'm now writing. I've written over
two hundred articles for different publications, a lot of golf publications,
So I'm taking a lot of those and putting them
into a book format.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh yeah, that's kind of cheating a little bit. But
the U he wrote it. Yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But it's like the I took a lot of pictures
and now putting out a picture book.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Yeah, what it is. I have to take a lot
of the Some of the articles never got published, so
those are going to go in there. Plus the published
articles show that.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's kind of like a.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
History of all the articles I've written.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Hey, can I ask you this? What'd you say? Like
you you wrote a book on what.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Digital painting?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right? Did that sell?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Not the first one? Because I finished it in January,
I mean in November of twenty nineteen, and what hit
February of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, COVID where everybody stayed home and read.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You got it.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Unfortunately, it's very difficult to promote when you when you're
having a stay home tho.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
True, that's true. How am I supposed to get on
the Today Show? No, that makes sense. And by the
time that makes.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Me by the time I finished doing the uh, finish
with COVID. The Adobe Photoshop had changed so much that
I had to rewrite, basically rewrite the book.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Interesting. Interesting, Hey, but you know what good for you, January?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
What a great accomplishment? All right now, listen, I hope
it sells. Thank you, sir, thank you. What a good whoops,
what a great uh? What a great accomplishment?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Died that's one of your fellow writers. Yeah, I just
hung up on him.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, no, I didn't hang up on him.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
My fingers a little.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
No. No, I thought he was done. And then as
I was done, he was.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Like, you got to think about the ending. That's what
they're advising all of the participants here on their social media.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
As the end is in sight and you need to
finish strong, you.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Have to know two things. This is what I believe.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You have to know who your character is, your main character,
your antagonist or.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Protagonist protagonist, and you have to know how it ends.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Make sure that your ending makes your reader feel something,
or wrap up your subplots. That's what Elliot always says.
You didn't address the subplots.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
There's always one subplot, What do I like to do
with it? Leave it open for the sequel.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
It isn't always happily ever after, but your readers will
want to know what might be next for your characters.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yep, that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Unchanged readers want to see change in your characters, whether
it's good or bag. Make sure it hits hard. Oh
and Diane, this is something I know that you always
are concerned about when reading and critiquing books. Did they
check their foreshadowing?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Meaning did you have foreshadowing that you completed or have
you left a gate open?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Got Elliott? You are going to be on the Today Show?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Absolutely for your wester. That's right. Hey y'all where am I.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Going that last Christmas?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Or was it?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah? Of course it was? Hi Elliot the morning? Hi
is this me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Who's this?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
This is Catherine from Resident.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yes, ma'am. Are you you an author?
Speaker 8 (14:27):
I am not, but I journal every day I had
for the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You've journaled, like do you journal every day?
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Every day? So it's something I actually got from my
therapist ten years ago. I am a like textbook overthinker
and I have anxiety, so she wanted me to just
do a stream of consciousness with writing. So it's not
a log, and it's not a dream. It's not even
a gratitude journal. It's more of just like a stream
of consciousness to get my thought out there so I
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don't overthink them.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So you won't write down anything specific that happened that day.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
How big is the biscuit you're reading big?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
I will it's like it's interesting, so I'll I'll just
like write different things. And if it's like sometimes you know,
you're you like your thoughts got are a little bit
crazier than the actual reality of what happened. That's kind
of what it helps.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Me alleviate in my mind.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
So I don't get anxious about certain things that happened
during the day.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
For example, what did you write about yesterday?
Speaker 8 (15:29):
I owe a two year old and we're we're working
on him not hitting his baby brother. And so it's
hard trying to find like the balance of like discipline
without you know, the whole idea of gentle parenting, which
is you know, a whole other things to right.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
The yeah, so like not being so hard.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
On him, right, and you've done this every day for
ten years.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Every day for ten years.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So and that I shouldn't say it's funny.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't mean it that way, but it's interesting that
it started, like with your therapist doing it, and now
I bet it is. It's religion for you that you
have to do it every day.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
Yes, it's I don't want to say an addiction, but
it's if I don't do it, they're out, like in
the morning or even sometimes I'll stop work and you know,
put my out of office or not out of office,
but like I'll put my like busy sign up at
work for ten minutes so I can just write stuff
out and then continue on my day. But I have
to do it every day.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So I was reading about this woman. Right, how old
is she now? Well, she's got to be fourteen plus
forty is what fifty four?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So I was reading about this woman. She was when
she was fourteen years old. She started journaling every single
day like her mom. Her mom, I don't want to
say made her do it, but her mom was very
influential in her doing it. She journals every single day,
thank you, ay hold tight one second every single day.
She's done it every single day for four decades now.
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And she said that her entire life is now contained
in these little booklets that are on a bookshelf.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
How big is that bookshelf?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, well, you know it's funny you're.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Smaller than your biscuit because she's smaller.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
She says. It's a lot until you think of your
life is now boiled down to a bookshelf.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It's fair, it's everything, it's perspective.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But there were two things in there that I thought
were interesting, Like she said, like sometimes she'll go back
and look at some things, and sometimes she won't, or
she'll go back and see like, oh I thought this
in middle school or high school, or in college, or
you know whatever it was, Like I'll look at the
first date I had with my husband, my now husband,
or you know whatever is in the in the journal.
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But she said journaling, two things came out of it.
She said, it's interesting to go back and see. Now
this is gonna sound stupid. The first time she saw
she ever saw cell phone, the first time she ever
got any emil, right, Like, those would have been monumental moments.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Now I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Now, I don't know what's going to be invented that
I'm going to see tomorrow. First, the first time I
saw a video game controller right, or I don't know
what it is, but as commonplays as those things are now,
I really like the chronicling of it in your own life.
And she said the first time she saw cell phone,
she was sitting in a class and a teacher brought
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one in, and she made a big deal of like,
I'm looking at the future.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
She said. The other thing is and this I thought
was good. This I thought was good that when.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You journal every day, you look at the day differently.
Your eyes are more open to what happens during the day,
so instead of it being just another.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
And you're like, I gotta write this down.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Mundane, manic Monday, your eyes are open to what made
Monday not special.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Different?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Which can I like that greater appreciation for life.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Thank you, thank you. No, I'm being serious.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh, if you got home and you were like, if
I woke up tomorrow and nothing happened today, it'd be like,
what happened nothing? But if if you if you were
if you trained yourself, I don't even want to say
forced yourself, trained yourself to have a little just a
little more of an open eye every day, maybe a
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little more special.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And I like that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I like that I think even by default that would happen.
You don't need to set out to make each day
more special. It's just naturally going to it occur.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
She says that, But how come, like early on though
you do so, she has so many of these books,
and she give a number of how many journals she's
filled up. I think she went with crap ton, But like,
how come when when my mom saves a lot of
stuff of mine from when I was younger.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You call her a hoarder.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, but your mom didn't save it so that you
could go back and be like, okay, Also, you were
lyingly told the doctor I had this new Holmes or
whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
It was something that seems so boring and pedestrian. But
to go back and place it in my life, well, also,
you didn't keep going, you stopped.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Well, it's all the medical records that she has saved,
or the projects she has saved, but it's certainly you
can place it in your life, as silly as the
project may have seemed, or the visit may have appeared
back then. Don't you wish though, that in all of
the so great you told the doctor when you were
six that your nose was running, But don't you wish
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that you had documentation of your first your first date
with Lindsey. I do have all that stuff, really, so
you went and wrote down how you felt the second
you got home?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
No, no, no, no, I do have.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
A shoe box full of mementos from my reallyationship and
a first date.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's a gimme, that's easy. I can't even tell you. Well,
I know where, I know. I know I went to
a wedding with Jackie on our first date. But I
don't have any momentos momentos.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I also don't need any until I get dementros up here.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I said I didn't have my thoughts written down, and
he's like, don't count for you? Yeah, all your momentos
here's moments.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He got fired too. Where to go?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
In your head?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Where am I going? Line six? Hi, Elliott the morning?
Could you date the journaler girl?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Wait, hold on one second? Could I date her? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't mean walking into a house filled with a shelf.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Oh, knowing that she was writing it down every day? Yes? No,
because I know that I'm at least about me the oh,
I don't even care about that because I know it
would be a lot, but a lot of it would
be like, why am I still with him? He continues,
fill in the blank?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Is what is her family life? Does she have a family?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh yeah, she's got a husband. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Was he available for comment?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
No? He was not. He was not. He's not in
the journal.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I just wonder how that makes those around you act.
When you know this person is writing down so much
every single name, You're like, what's with all those?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
On my thirtieth birthday, I wrote down my face is lumping,
my shorts are lumping, my body is stale, and my
hair like tin sardines. Feel every inch of thirty.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
God, now it's fifty four. She's probably like, I would
kill to look like that again.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The Yeah, but her journal is like so poetic.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, but that's okay. Well that's probably how you start
writing if you've been doing it for twenty five friggin years.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You're the only person I know who regularly uses the
word lumping.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
My shorts are lumping. Hey went to a wedding with Jackie.
My soup pants was lumping and then we was humping. Hi,
Who's this was it?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
L U?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
M p E L hold on, yes, l U m
P E N lumping. Okay, so not lump. I thought
it was p I S. Yes, that's what Elliott thinks
it is too.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, what is the same word?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
What does lumping mean?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Doesn't it? It means you're just you're stuck where you are.
Oh well, I'm I got a lump and lumping.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Stuck where you are?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's the end results anyway, I'm sorry, Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Hi, Hi, this is Eva. So when my grandma passed away,
we were going through her house and we found a
journal of hers. She used to write every day in
the nineteen forties. She had one from Pearl Harbor, an
entry from that day like about how scared she was.
This was before she was married to my grandpa. And
there was an entry about how his number got called
(23:58):
and he got drafted and she was so scared. It
was the coolest thing.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's awesome, right, really was. That's awesome? But like, what
was a what was a normal day though?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Oh, one was like I went to the store today
with my sisters and then we decided to go to
the malt shop stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like that's awesome, though, Like that's awesome, like we done
a five and dime, Like no, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
What I mean, Like that's cool. That's cool.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
By the way, when the day that it's happening, the
day that it's happening, thank you, ma'am, the day that
it's happening, it doesn't seem cool.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But down the road, like nobody goes to a five
and dime anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But over time, like just think one day, fifty years
from now, somebody will go like, wow, nobody goes to
a seven eleven anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They fly everything to you.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Your observations may be very simple at first, but like
you said, with you open your eyes, it actually to
turn the day cooler.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yes, it makes every day less mundane.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So if you had to pick, and I know we're
just a few days away from the end of this month,
so you're not going to write a novel by Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
But if you had to choose, would you go for
a writing challenge that is, a novel for a national
Novel Writing month or would you journal day in, day
out for for longer than that month. You're gonna have
to commit to the journalingmore.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
What are you better suited for novel?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Because you have those stories in you.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm sitting on a great Western Elliott Lamore. Which would
you do? Would you? Really? I bet you'd be a
good journaler.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
But then I would be like I'd skip a couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You can't, Diane, you can't.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But because you would get to the point where you're like,
that's that's that's something today that I need, that I
need to mark down.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I drove Velly at home from the movie theater. That
doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Last night ever.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
No, See, that's that's being that's being rude, that's being
a bitch. Really No, but why couldn't it be? Had
had a great twenty minutes? It was?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
It was nice you you even said you haven't been
through there in so long? It was it was nice
going through an area I hadn't been to and so
long with with with with one of my best friends
of all time.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I just feel like it would make me maybe be
a little bit more like open, like Tyler said, aware
of that's what I said. No, but she said, like
like stuff that's mundane. Maybe you're a little bit more
like you just think of your day as being mundane,
and maybe it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Like going to the five and dime. We might have
done a five and dime from Alts.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
But here's the thing, though, I feel like we could
maybe convince each other if we all picked novel to
share early chapters with each other and the journal. I
don't think you're gonna pass around.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I would. I would share my journal.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Oh you would I do?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
What am I gonna say?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
But you're writing a novel?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
No, but I'm saying if I did journal, I would
share it.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But I want drafts of your novel.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
All right, I mean, by the way, they'll be for sale.
It's called the book Western.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I've been dying.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But what if I make I don't care what it is.
I want Elliott's novel. Would you want me to write
a book about graphic arts?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
No? No, not, I don't want nonfiction.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
No no, I'm going to give you a wonderful Western.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Or are you doing a graphic novel?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The no?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean like and then and then Cowboy Jim got
all lumping No, Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Hey, I'm doing great. Who's this, Steven?
Speaker 7 (27:45):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I've been writing these children's books and right now I'm
doing the paintings the pages. Wait, so you're writing kids books?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Yeah, I figured it's something easy. I say that I
can't read that.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, what I know how to teach me?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Man?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Hey, what is the what is the how many? How
many books in are you?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
I have four books written?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But it's the painting of the pages, that the pictures
for the page, for the pages, that's most of the work.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
To be honest with you, have you have you published
any of them yet? Or you've just written them? No,
I'm right now. The publishers are crazy, man. They want
money for everything that.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
You're right.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
My son was fifteen years old he wrote he wrote
a novel.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Wow he at the age of fifteen. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
He published it too. Wow. Did he sell any like
other than to you his mom? Well, no, he sold some.
He sold a lot online. Actually interesting, you know what.
Good for him, that's awesome, that's great.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, and writing right now.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
He's in the middle of writing another another novel now
in his twenties.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's awesome. That's awesome. Good for you, Good for you. Hey,
I appreciate it, Thank you, sir. That's impressed.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But I also in your voice, I hear you sound
a little.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Threatened, No, he didn't write he didn't write a Western.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
You'll be fighting.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
By the way, he's fifteen.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
What he's write twenties?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Now? Well, now he ain't writing a Western.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
What is it that's drawing you to that genre?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Because I feel like I would end up writing something
I didn't expect to write. I wouldn't expect that I
would write a Western, like you would think that I
would write some kind of true crime, the thriller, or
maybe like a story around the rink.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Oh, love on the ice that's.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Already been written, Diana, And I'm not writing a love story.
I mean, I love the ice. However, I think you
find your way into maybe something that you weren't expecting,
and that for me would be a Western.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So should we maybe come next November explore this?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Somebody better put a reminder in their phone, because I
guarantee you I won't.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Oh, but I thought that's where you store all your
momentum idea.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Well I do, but I don't have a momento from
my writing. I also want to between now and then,
I want to work on the cover some rugged cowboy.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
So it is erotica.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, I don't want a pussy cowboy. In my Western
by the way, you know what would be hard kids book.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I think people think that it's easy, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Don't you have a good friend who's.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, Shannon, Yeah, yeah. But I mean that's a hard
that's a hard gig. That is a hard gig.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Also, my kid's book would be titled can I say butthole?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But the competition through the room?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, I'll compete with some guy who who's who's in
the middle of He's got four of them written right now.
And that's that's the other thing. Wide open lane for Westerns,
Wide open lane.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Do you think this is an untapped literary diamond.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mind, I don't hear a lot of people clamoring for it.
I'll tell you that
Is there anybody listening that does one of two things
that is currently working on a book, like writing a book? Books?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, and I don't care what it's about, a.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Novel, a biography, like somebody who has taken me And
I don't mean like like Melter is listening at home,
but like, no, no, you know what I mean, like
somebody who is trying to write a book try it,
even if they're going to self publish it. Is there
anybody listening that's doing that?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Definitely?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You think so?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Absolutely? Really, I think you're going to be surprised how
many people chime is.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh, because I was going to say Part two? Is
there anybody listening that is a what would you call
them a regular journal?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Journal?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Or yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
A lot of people do that every day every day.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Yeah, like gratitude journals. What is that where somebody writes
down even if it's one thing, like one thing they
were happy that happened to them that day, grateful for whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
But is that journaling? Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
No, No, I mean yes, I guess that it would be.
But if you're just writing down like oh I'm happy
I didn't you know stub my toe today? I mean
somebody who is like I don't know what you would
be grateful for. But somebody who is like, like a like,
I don't want to call it a diary entry.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Nobody keeps diaries anymore.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Same thing, diary journal whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
No, I know, but diaries at least makes you think
like they would write down like here's what happened today,
like a short version of here's what happened today, versus like, oh,
I'm thankful I wasn't in a car accident on the
way to work, which if that's your thing, but God
bless But like somebody who keeps like a journal of
here's what happened today, So.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
That to me it sounds more like a log. It
has to be a recap of the day, not.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A recap of the day.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
But maybe not like well I woke up, I took
a piss, I brushed my teeth. No, but somebody who
was like, maybe, like I had a good day, here's
one or two things that happen you.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Can't write about, like goals and dreams.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, I mean that may fit into it, like I so, okay,
that's fine, But I mean, well you can write about
a goal and a dream every single day.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, But I'm just saying to just.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Still dreaming about women. The power ball.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Just reflect on the day itself would limit you. You
certainly want to predict or maybe fortell of a future.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
All right, Kristen, find me somebody who is. I'll take
either one somebody who is who is either in somebody
who is in the process of writing a book or
is on the verge of ending it or maybe starting it.
Eight six six to Elliot eight six six two three
five five four six eight, or somebody is a regular journaler.
(02:47):
I don't know what else to call it. That's right,
thank you, But I don't want it to be like
just you write down what you're thankful for that day
eight six six to Elliot six six two three five,
five four six eight line one, Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's that Ben? Hey?
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Ben?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
How are you? I'm good? How's it going? What do you?
Are you a journaler? Or are you writing a book?
I've self published two books, about to do the third.
Have you really.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
What kind of books?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Science fiction?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Kind of? Can I ask you? This is it a
what got you started?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I've been writing so I was about seven, I guess goosebumps.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
No, No, that's fine. Listen. You read that it inspired you.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Do you remember what month of the year you first
started writing your first book?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
October two thousand and five. I'm happy to hear that.
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And this is what I would ask people, is how
is your book coming along this month? Did you know
we are nearing the end of National Novel Writing Month?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I did not know that an appearance.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
It took me a bit more than a month.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I don't think they expect anybody to knock the Hey,
have you made any money off your book? Has anybody
bought a single copy of your book?
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yes, I've made a few buys.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Oh, good for you, Good for you. I'm proud of you.
I'm proud of you. Good for you. Thank you, sir,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I had no idea that November is National Novel Writing Month.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, it's a month that's set aside to kind of
get people started on writing a novel, like people who
think they have a book in them. And there's all
kinds of like for the month. There's all kinds of
like hints and tips and almost I don't want to
(04:58):
call it classes, but ways to get so everybody always says,
I could write a book, I just don't know how
to start it write if I could get the first
three words, like and you're not going to start your
book once upon a time, but if you give forward,
if you could just get started, that you've got.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
A book in you.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So do you almost have like sponsors during this month
that check in on you to make sure you're being active?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I mean, I don't know if they check in on you.
But to be to be part of a group, to
be part of a a like somebody like like other writers,
so you're kind of in a group together.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Do they give you guidelines because you mentioned words? Do
they say like, oh, try to do this many words
the first day, and then this many words the second day,
just so you're continuing this journey and trying to side
stuff any writer's block or distractions.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure they do. I
don't know that is there a certain number of words
I'm supposed to write every day?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I feel like you think you have a book in
you now? Serious? No, you don't think you have a
book at all.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
No, you don't think that if you if you could
break down that first wall, you don't think you have
a book in you, no, really novel, not like you have.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
A memoir in you.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
No I have. I would never write a book.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I I have a better chance of writing an eight
book series novel than I do a memoir. I would
never write it. And that's what I thought you were
going to say, I would never write a memoir.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So they want you writing sixteen hundred words a day.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
No way, dude, do you know how many a's those
and hands I'm using.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
You would then have a fifty thousand word novel by
the end of the month.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
By the end of the month of a novel, so
not the end of the novel, but you would have
completed that many pages.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
When the thirty days are.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Out, how many words are in a novel, I would
have guessed fifty thousand.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I don't know what the conversion is pages towards.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
If I wrote fifty thousand, I would think I just
wrote maybe the longest tome ever written.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
A lot of people so this is NANO ORHEMO dot org,
which stands for National Novel Writing Month. Yeah, there are
a lot of people who use this tool.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
To get started. I'm telling you, the hardest part is starting.
The hardest part of a journey is your first step.
Every marathon starts with one step. Every novel starts with
one word. Once So you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Can set writing goals and work at your own pace,
or you can, if you prefer the exquisite pressure of
an ambitious deadline and enthusiastic community egging you on, you
can follow what they want you to do.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
The whole push is this gets you started.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
And they've got trackers that say you need eight hundred
words still today.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I would tell you that, and I think you, I
think you would be surprised, Like what, I don't know
what my favorite kind of book, Like, I don't I'm
not doing a nonfiction like that. You know how much
research and crap goes into that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
God tell us, what's this about? Citation?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No, But like even Brad's fiction, right, he does so
much research.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
This all this all off my head. This is all
off my head.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But I I think if I I bet that if
I started writing, I would end up writing a genre
that I wasn't expecting to write.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
You just kind of fall into it.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I think I would, Like, maybe I end up
writing like one of the greatest Westerns of all time.
And I'm not expecting to.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
So, Diane, the book that you often cite as having
read because it was so long it took you a while.
This is Steve job As biography. Correct. Yeah, okay, so
that was six hundred memoirs memoir pages. But I'm just
giving you a sense of words and pages.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Six hundred and fifty pages is how many words?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Two hundred twelve thousand words, So if you do fifty thousand,
you're talking about one hundred and seventy five pages.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I feel like it took me like a year and
a half to read that book.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
If I if I wrote one hundred and seventy five pages,
I would celebrate like I would I would celebrate like
I was the first, like like I was a pioneer. Seriously,
do you know how proud of yourself you should be,
even if your book is garbage. You wrote one hundred
and seventy five pages of a book. You should You
should be alot work.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I didn't say it was easy, but don't you gather
that is the point of this exercise to get you
go along, just to get those juices flowing.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
But are you just writing down? Write and down?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
But that's for nobody's first works are going to the
top of the best seller charts.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh your may stopping? Okay, areas you say that?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Where am I going? Line for?
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Elliott in the morning?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
All right, this is me?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
Yeah, Hi?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Who's this?
Speaker 7 (10:13):
This is Peter?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yes, Peter. What can I do for you? I can
tell you.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I can tell you right now.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
That is started as originally a contest that people, uh
actually spend months preparing, but starting on November first, they
go through and write the novel. It's it's got to
be fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Words and more.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
But a lot of guys, a lot of people do it.
It's a it's a very popular contest in.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
The writing world. The this NEMO or whatever it's called.
What is it?
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Elliott?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes, I don't know. Then I don't know.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Basically, it's you're writing and you're trying to write. The
contest is basically, you write a novel beginning in the
middle and end in a month. Now, it's got to
be at least fifty thousand words.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Did you do this?
Speaker 8 (11:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I did.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
I didn't do it because I don't do fiction. I'm
nonfiction writer. I published a book back in January on
creating digital paintings, and I'm now writing. I've written over
two hundred articles for different publications, a lot of golf publications,
So I'm taking a lot of those and putting them
into a book format.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh yeah, that's kind of cheating a little bit. But
the U he wrote it. Yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
But it's like the I took a lot of pictures
and now putting out a picture book.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
Yeah, what it is. I have to take a lot
of the Some of the articles never got published, so
those are going to go in there. Plus the published
articles show that.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's kind of like a.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
History of all the articles I've written.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Hey, can I ask you this? What'd you say? Like
you you wrote a book on what.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
Digital painting?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Right? Did that sell?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Not the first one? Because I finished it in January,
I mean in November of twenty nineteen, and what hit
February of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, COVID where everybody stayed home and read.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
You got it.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
Unfortunately, it's very difficult to promote when you when you're
having a stay home tho.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
True, that's true. How am I supposed to get on
the Today Show? No, that makes sense. And by the
time that makes.
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Me by the time I finished doing the uh, finish
with COVID. The Adobe Photoshop had changed so much that
I had to rewrite, basically rewrite the book.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Interesting. Interesting, Hey, but you know what good for you, January?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
What a great accomplishment? All right now, listen, I hope
it sells. Thank you, sir, thank you. What a good whoops,
what a great uh? What a great accomplishment?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Died that's one of your fellow writers. Yeah, I just
hung up on him.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, no, I didn't hang up on him.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
My fingers a little.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
No. No, I thought he was done. And then as
I was done, he was.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Like, you got to think about the ending. That's what
they're advising all of the participants here on their social media.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
As the end is in sight and you need to
finish strong, you.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Have to know two things. This is what I believe.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You have to know who your character is, your main character,
your antagonist or.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Protagonist protagonist, and you have to know how it ends.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Make sure that your ending makes your reader feel something,
or wrap up your subplots. That's what Elliot always says.
You didn't address the subplots.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
There's always one subplot, What do I like to do
with it? Leave it open for the sequel.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
It isn't always happily ever after, but your readers will
want to know what might be next for your characters.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yep, that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Unchanged readers want to see change in your characters, whether
it's good or bag. Make sure it hits hard. Oh
and Diane, this is something I know that you always
are concerned about when reading and critiquing books. Did they
check their foreshadowing?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Meaning did you have foreshadowing that you completed or have
you left a gate open?
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Got Elliott? You are going to be on the Today Show?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Absolutely for your wester. That's right. Hey y'all where am I.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
Going that last Christmas?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Or was it?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah? Of course it was? Hi Elliot the morning? Hi
is this me? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Who's this?
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (14:22):
This is Catherine from Resident.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yes, ma'am. Are you you an author?
Speaker 8 (14:27):
I am not, but I journal every day I had
for the last ten years.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
You've journaled, like do you journal every day?
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Every day? So it's something I actually got from my
therapist ten years ago. I am a like textbook overthinker
and I have anxiety, so she wanted me to just
do a stream of consciousness with writing. So it's not
a log, and it's not a dream. It's not even
a gratitude journal. It's more of just like a stream
of consciousness to get my thought out there so I
(15:00):
don't overthink them.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So you won't write down anything specific that happened that day.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
How big is the biscuit you're reading big?
Speaker 8 (15:09):
I will it's like it's interesting, so I'll I'll just
like write different things. And if it's like sometimes you know,
you're you like your thoughts got are a little bit
crazier than the actual reality of what happened. That's kind
of what it helps.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
Me alleviate in my mind.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
So I don't get anxious about certain things that happened
during the day.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
For example, what did you write about yesterday?
Speaker 8 (15:29):
I owe a two year old and we're we're working
on him not hitting his baby brother. And so it's
hard trying to find like the balance of like discipline
without you know, the whole idea of gentle parenting, which
is you know, a whole other things to right.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
The yeah, so like not being so hard.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
On him, right, and you've done this every day for
ten years.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
Every day for ten years.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So and that I shouldn't say it's funny.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't mean it that way, but it's interesting that
it started, like with your therapist doing it, and now
I bet it is. It's religion for you that you
have to do it every day.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
Yes, it's I don't want to say an addiction, but
it's if I don't do it, they're out, like in
the morning or even sometimes I'll stop work and you know,
put my out of office or not out of office,
but like I'll put my like busy sign up at
work for ten minutes so I can just write stuff
out and then continue on my day. But I have
to do it every day.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So I was reading about this woman. Right, how old
is she now? Well, she's got to be fourteen plus
forty is what fifty four?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
So I was reading about this woman. She was when
she was fourteen years old. She started journaling every single
day like her mom. Her mom, I don't want to
say made her do it, but her mom was very
influential in her doing it. She journals every single day,
thank you, ay hold tight one second every single day.
She's done it every single day for four decades now.
(16:59):
And she said that her entire life is now contained
in these little booklets that are on a bookshelf.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
How big is that bookshelf?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah, well, you know it's funny you're.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Smaller than your biscuit because she's smaller.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
She says. It's a lot until you think of your
life is now boiled down to a bookshelf.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
It's fair, it's everything, it's perspective.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
But there were two things in there that I thought
were interesting, Like she said, like sometimes she'll go back
and look at some things, and sometimes she won't, or
she'll go back and see like, oh I thought this
in middle school or high school, or in college, or
you know whatever it was, Like I'll look at the
first date I had with my husband, my now husband,
or you know whatever is in the in the journal.
(17:44):
But she said journaling, two things came out of it.
She said, it's interesting to go back and see. Now
this is gonna sound stupid. The first time she saw
she ever saw cell phone, the first time she ever
got any emil, right, Like, those would have been monumental moments.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Now I don't know what that is.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Now, I don't know what's going to be invented that
I'm going to see tomorrow. First, the first time I
saw a video game controller right, or I don't know
what it is, but as commonplays as those things are now,
I really like the chronicling of it in your own life.
And she said the first time she saw cell phone,
she was sitting in a class and a teacher brought
(18:28):
one in, and she made a big deal of like,
I'm looking at the future.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
She said. The other thing is and this I thought
was good. This I thought was good that when.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
You journal every day, you look at the day differently.
Your eyes are more open to what happens during the day,
so instead of it being just another.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
And you're like, I gotta write this down.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Mundane, manic Monday, your eyes are open to what made
Monday not special.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Different?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Which can I like that greater appreciation for life.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Thank you, thank you. No, I'm being serious.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh, if you got home and you were like, if
I woke up tomorrow and nothing happened today, it'd be like,
what happened nothing? But if if you if you were
if you trained yourself, I don't even want to say
forced yourself, trained yourself to have a little just a
little more of an open eye every day, maybe a
(19:31):
little more special.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
And I like that.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I like that I think even by default that would happen.
You don't need to set out to make each day
more special. It's just naturally going to it occur.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
She says that, But how come, like early on though
you do so, she has so many of these books,
and she give a number of how many journals she's
filled up. I think she went with crap ton, But like,
how come when when my mom saves a lot of
stuff of mine from when I was younger.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
You call her a hoarder.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, but your mom didn't save it so that you
could go back and be like, okay, Also, you were
lyingly told the doctor I had this new Holmes or
whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
It was something that seems so boring and pedestrian. But
to go back and place it in my life, well, also,
you didn't keep going, you stopped.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Well, it's all the medical records that she has saved,
or the projects she has saved, but it's certainly you
can place it in your life, as silly as the
project may have seemed, or the visit may have appeared
back then. Don't you wish though, that in all of
the so great you told the doctor when you were
six that your nose was running, But don't you wish
(20:41):
that you had documentation of your first your first date
with Lindsey. I do have all that stuff, really, so
you went and wrote down how you felt the second
you got home?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I know that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
No, no, no, no, I do have.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
A shoe box full of mementos from my reallyationship and
a first date.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
That's a gimme, that's easy. I can't even tell you. Well,
I know where, I know. I know I went to
a wedding with Jackie on our first date. But I
don't have any momentos momentos.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I also don't need any until I get dementros up here.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I said I didn't have my thoughts written down, and
he's like, don't count for you? Yeah, all your momentos
here's moments.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He got fired too. Where to go?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
In your head?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Where am I going? Line six? Hi, Elliott the morning?
Could you date the journaler girl?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Wait, hold on one second? Could I date her? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I don't mean walking into a house filled with a shelf.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Oh, knowing that she was writing it down every day? Yes? No,
because I know that I'm at least about me the oh,
I don't even care about that because I know it
would be a lot, but a lot of it would
be like, why am I still with him? He continues,
fill in the blank?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Is what is her family life? Does she have a family?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Oh yeah, she's got a husband. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Was he available for comment?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
No? He was not. He was not. He's not in
the journal.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I just wonder how that makes those around you act.
When you know this person is writing down so much
every single name, You're like, what's with all those?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
On my thirtieth birthday, I wrote down my face is lumping,
my shorts are lumping, my body is stale, and my
hair like tin sardines. Feel every inch of thirty.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
God, now it's fifty four. She's probably like, I would
kill to look like that again.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
The Yeah, but her journal is like so poetic.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, but that's okay. Well that's probably how you start
writing if you've been doing it for twenty five friggin years.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
You're the only person I know who regularly uses the
word lumping.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
My shorts are lumping. Hey went to a wedding with Jackie.
My soup pants was lumping and then we was humping. Hi,
Who's this was it?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
L U?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
M p E L hold on, yes, l U m
P E N lumping. Okay, so not lump. I thought
it was p I S. Yes, that's what Elliott thinks
it is too.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, what is the same word?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
What does lumping mean?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Doesn't it? It means you're just you're stuck where you are.
Oh well, I'm I got a lump and lumping.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Stuck where you are?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
That's the end results anyway, I'm sorry, Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Hi, Hi, this is Eva. So when my grandma passed away,
we were going through her house and we found a
journal of hers. She used to write every day in
the nineteen forties. She had one from Pearl Harbor, an
entry from that day like about how scared she was.
This was before she was married to my grandpa. And
there was an entry about how his number got called
(23:58):
and he got drafted and she was so scared. It
was the coolest thing.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's awesome, right, really was. That's awesome? But like, what
was a what was a normal day though?
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Oh, one was like I went to the store today
with my sisters and then we decided to go to
the malt shop stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Like that's awesome, though, Like that's awesome, like we done
a five and dime, Like no, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
What I mean, Like that's cool. That's cool.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
By the way, when the day that it's happening, the
day that it's happening, thank you, ma'am, the day that
it's happening, it doesn't seem cool.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But down the road, like nobody goes to a five
and dime anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
But over time, like just think one day, fifty years
from now, somebody will go like, wow, nobody goes to
a seven eleven anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
They fly everything to you.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Your observations may be very simple at first, but like
you said, with you open your eyes, it actually to
turn the day cooler.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yes, it makes every day less mundane.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So if you had to pick, and I know we're
just a few days away from the end of this month,
so you're not going to write a novel by Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
But if you had to choose, would you go for
a writing challenge that is, a novel for a national
Novel Writing month or would you journal day in, day
out for for longer than that month. You're gonna have
to commit to the journalingmore.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
What are you better suited for novel?
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Because you have those stories in you.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I'm sitting on a great Western Elliott Lamore. Which would
you do? Would you? Really? I bet you'd be a
good journaler.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
But then I would be like I'd skip a couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You can't, Diane, you can't.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
But because you would get to the point where you're like,
that's that's that's something today that I need, that I
need to mark down.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I drove Velly at home from the movie theater. That
doesn't happen.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Last night ever.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
No, See, that's that's being that's being rude, that's being
a bitch. Really No, but why couldn't it be? Had
had a great twenty minutes? It was?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
It was nice you you even said you haven't been
through there in so long? It was it was nice
going through an area I hadn't been to and so
long with with with with one of my best friends
of all time.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I just feel like it would make me maybe be
a little bit more like open, like Tyler said, aware
of that's what I said. No, but she said, like
like stuff that's mundane. Maybe you're a little bit more
like you just think of your day as being mundane,
and maybe it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Like going to the five and dime. We might have
done a five and dime from Alts.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
But here's the thing, though, I feel like we could
maybe convince each other if we all picked novel to
share early chapters with each other and the journal. I
don't think you're gonna pass around.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I would. I would share my journal.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Oh you would I do?
Speaker 2 (27:00):
What am I gonna say?
Speaker 3 (27:02):
But you're writing a novel?
Speaker 2 (27:03):
No, but I'm saying if I did journal, I would
share it.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But I want drafts of your novel.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
All right, I mean, by the way, they'll be for sale.
It's called the book Western.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
I've been dying.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
But what if I make I don't care what it is.
I want Elliott's novel. Would you want me to write
a book about graphic arts?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
No? No, not, I don't want nonfiction.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
No no, I'm going to give you a wonderful Western.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Or are you doing a graphic novel?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
The no?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
I mean like and then and then Cowboy Jim got
all lumping No, Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Man?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Hey, I'm doing great. Who's this, Steven?
Speaker 7 (27:45):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
I've been writing these children's books and right now I'm
doing the paintings the pages. Wait, so you're writing kids books?
Speaker 7 (27:54):
Yeah, I figured it's something easy. I say that I
can't read that.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Well, what I know how to teach me?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Man?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Hey, what is the what is the how many? How
many books in are you?
Speaker 7 (28:09):
I have four books written?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
But it's the painting of the pages, that the pictures
for the page, for the pages, that's most of the work.
Speaker 7 (28:18):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
To be honest with you, have you have you published
any of them yet? Or you've just written them? No,
I'm right now. The publishers are crazy, man. They want
money for everything that.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
You're right.
Speaker 7 (28:29):
My son was fifteen years old he wrote he wrote
a novel.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Wow he at the age of fifteen. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
He published it too. Wow. Did he sell any like
other than to you his mom? Well, no, he sold some.
He sold a lot online. Actually interesting, you know what.
Good for him, that's awesome, that's great.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, and writing right now.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
He's in the middle of writing another another novel now
in his twenties.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's awesome. That's awesome. Good for you, Good for you. Hey,
I appreciate it, Thank you, sir. That's impressed.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
But I also in your voice, I hear you sound
a little.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Threatened, No, he didn't write he didn't write a Western.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
You'll be fighting.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
By the way, he's fifteen.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
What he's write twenties?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Now? Well, now he ain't writing a Western.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
What is it that's drawing you to that genre?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Because I feel like I would end up writing something
I didn't expect to write. I wouldn't expect that I
would write a Western, like you would think that I
would write some kind of true crime, the thriller, or
maybe like a story around the rink.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Oh, love on the ice that's.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Already been written, Diana, And I'm not writing a love story.
I mean, I love the ice. However, I think you
find your way into maybe something that you weren't expecting,
and that for me would be a Western.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So should we maybe come next November explore this?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Somebody better put a reminder in their phone, because I
guarantee you I won't.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Oh, but I thought that's where you store all your
momentum idea.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Well I do, but I don't have a momento from
my writing. I also want to between now and then,
I want to work on the cover some rugged cowboy.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
So it is erotica.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, I don't want a pussy cowboy. In my Western
by the way, you know what would be hard kids book.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I think people think that it's easy, but it's not.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Don't you have a good friend who's.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, Shannon, Yeah, yeah. But I mean that's a hard
that's a hard gig. That is a hard gig.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Also, my kid's book would be titled can I say butthole?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But the competition through the room?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Yeah, I'll compete with some guy who who's who's in
the middle of He's got four of them written right now.
And that's that's the other thing. Wide open lane for Westerns,
Wide open lane.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Do you think this is an untapped literary diamond.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Mind, I don't hear a lot of people clamoring for it.
I'll tell you that
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