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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do we all agree.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
That we are in the general sense of the term
good people? Yes, you think that about yourself that in
the general sir, listen, are you perfect?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
No, very few of us are.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You are?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No, But in the general sense of the term, you
would say that you are a good person. I would
agree with that. I would agree. I think you're a
very good person.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Oh, you agree with Diane thinking that? Yees say so
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I do I think I'm a good person? You don't. Honestly,
you don't think I'm a good person.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
No, but I'm saying honestly, you don't think he would
say he's a good person.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, no, no, no, I'm being honest. Why you don't
think I'm a good person.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
No, I didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I think I'm a very good person.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Actually, yeah, but I wouldn't think that you would think
of yourself as not being a good person.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
If I didn't think I was, I would. There's definitely
been points in my life where I don't think I've
been a good person. Yeah, Like you said, nobody's perfect, right,
and I would you I know what my answer would
be for you. But do you feel like, in the
general sense of the term you're a good person.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, Yeah, I do too. I would say the same
about Kristen that in the listen are we perfect? No,
but in the general excuse me, in the general sense,
and he just messed it up. Of the term I would,
I would say, we're all good people. Now, I really would.
I really would.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
But what's the what's the cats?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Is this wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Remember you're a good person, right? Is it wrong to
wish that a bad person.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Was dead?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Do you need any more context than that? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, I absolutely And I'm not talking about somebody who
I'm not talking like like like who is somebody like
I'm not talking about like a notorious killer or you know, like.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well you know what.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I hate to say it, but Hitler should be dead.
Like I'm not talking about somebody like that. I'm just
talking about somebody that you know, we may not know
who it is, but just kind of some nameless, faceless
person again that you know, and you know, then not
to be a good person, you would you would say,
in the general sense of the term, they're a bad person, right,
(02:17):
is it wrong to wish they were dead?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean, then you're gonna get saddled with Oh, is
it really this good to think that way at this
time of year or any time.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Any time of year. This has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That makes that makes you know better than them, and
so you don't have to like I can secretly wish
for something.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, no, you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm not saying you got to go stand on the
rooftop and shout that you wish this person was dead. Right,
but being a good person, a generally good person, can
you reconcile wishing a generally bad person was dead?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah up, Hi, I didn't even I don't know what
debate was going on in your head.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I was done like that. Uh maybe not in the
other room.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, I was going to say, and Kristen, please, I
don't I'm not putting words in your mouth, but personally
turn it on. I was going to say, for Elliott,
if you were asking that question to us and just
identified yourself as a in the general sense of the
term good person.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Right, we know you've done this. What's that?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So clearly you think as a quote unquote good person,
you're allowed to wish death on somebody.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh, yeah, I have no problem with that. But I
think I'm not killing them. I'm not going to their
house of killing them, but I do. I think there
are people that we would all be better off if
they didn't exist.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Absolutely, But I think that the absolutely what's problematic.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I'm not even talking about somebody who like has
done something horrific.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Right, you excuse those people which objectively people wish didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But I think where you're going to run into trouble
is who are you to get to say the person bad.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Like somewhere in their life somebody thinks that that person.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Is create more because we know just from Elliott's celebrity grudges,
it fails to impress a lot of people. Why you
have life long revenge on your mind for a handful of.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Because they're horrible people.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, okay, you for those people, but you're not necessarily
death on them.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I mean, I'd have to spend some time, But I
don't know that I wish Judith Light dead. I know
at one moment I did, No, No, it was more
than fleeting. But what makes seven years takes seven years
to get out from under credit?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
What makes someone bad? And why do you then get
to decide that?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, because I'm asking myself.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Did you say because I'm good?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I am good? I am good?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Do you do you agree I believe that you, in
a general sense of the term, are a good person?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Well, thank you?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, But do you think that about yourself?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, And I said the I said that about everybody
in this room.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You do.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
We are good people, thank you. Now there's people in
the world who not are not all good.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
We know that.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Like you said, the sixcludes the murder.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Right of course, of course.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Yeah, views on that, get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Whoa, whoa, limb, whoa.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
But you do not wish death on people. You may
hate them, but if you wish death on people, go
find Jesus, go to church.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yes, so it is going to have even though Elliott
said it wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Wow, I was not expecting that.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I are you serious yet?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
There's hate is a big strong word and I don't
use it often, but I do for a tiny bit
of people. Right, But I would never wish death on
those people.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Hl?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Go find Jesus?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The you two Diane?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yes, yes, now it's worth it.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Here's that fight you wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I can't can I can I ask you a question.
I want you to be completely honest. Are you doing
a bit?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
No?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
I literally, like I cannot imagine. I feel as if
you wish death on somebody, then that would be you
personally getting rid of them and killing them.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And you can you no, no, I say no. I
didn't say I wanted to kill him. I just wish
they would die.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm not going to go to jail for a piece
of garbage.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You. No, I couldn't kill someone. I'm a good person. Yeah,
I thank you. I couldn't kill somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You don't get a little bit of satisfaction about, Like
when when somebody has like a bad round of luck,
who you know to be a real piece of crap.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
That's total than death.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Okay, But.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But is that is that in your mind being not
a good person? Like do you need Jesus because of that?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
If somebody gets hit by a bus and lives?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Like oh no, oh that was heartfelt, by the way,
did you?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Diane turned around like she had just put Kristen into checkmate. WHOA, Well,
if you if you're okay with that, do you need
to go find the Lord?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
But you know what I mean? Like, like I I no,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'm fine with it.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I it doesn't have to be like.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I revel in people having like, uh, you know, bad
things happen to them.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Okay, that that now.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Like a select, like a select, show me down, a
select a select few people.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, but I don't want to see.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Here's where now let me let me well, let me
back pedal from Diane.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I don't wish somebody to suffer.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
That's what death is.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No, it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Now it can be real quick. I'm painless, so it
might be Diane's car.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
No, no, no, I I agree with Diane. I agree
with Diane. I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't wish for somebody to suffer. I don't want
somebody to say suffer like it's.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Different for animals. If you see a deer suffering, you
shoot it again, so then you get it out of
its misery. That's death that you get rid of.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
That.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So if the person I wish death on is suffering,
I should shoot them.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
That's what no, like, that's all.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No, No, I don't want to do that. I told
you I don't want to kill anybody good. I'm a
good person.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
But you don't wish death on somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, that's where you're wrong. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So let me let me ask you this though, what
if it's somebody And again I don't I don't want somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
To suffer, right, I mean that I don't want. But
what if what if.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
If you know the when I say the world like
if I'm gone tomorrow, the world doesn't care if the
community their community, whatever the community is, how big or small,
if everybody would be better off, happier, like, less angry
like At that point, don't you go like, yeah, okay,
(09:02):
so so it's good to.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Get rid of them from your community. It means go
away to somewhere else. It doesn't mean die, not me, No,
they should die.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, So like you can think how great that is
you alleviate it from everybody.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Like I hate people who are discussing. There are so
many discussing people out there.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Wait, disgusting, disgusting, disgusting.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, disgusting.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
What did I say discussing? Yeah? No one said disgusting.
Oh I must not have hurt. But I'll tell you
what I hate is that orthotic?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But I don't mean an example from your personal life.
But what would be an example of something someone does
with some consistency that is disgusting. Okay, I have a condition, like.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Somebody who's like a discussing pig, who's.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know, give me, give me, give me an example
of somebody who's disgusting, you know, a disgusting pig.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What would be and again not it's.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Easy to go with, like, well, the guy it's a
child predator, like obviously that's a that's a disgusting pig, right, okay,
but what is what is like?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Where what makes them disgusting?
Speaker 6 (10:25):
It's so inappropriate and like they should be put away
in jail?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh okay, so it's not just I was law Yes, okay,
I didn't know if she thought a womanizer is disgusting?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yes, like people, I don't have the morals in a jail.
Well yeah, get rid of like, get rid of them.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Womanis have to go to jail, see y'all?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, Well, Dane, I'm gonna go ahead. I had a
Sydney Sweeney story for you, but I'll go ahead and
hold on to that.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
But don't wish death on people. The I don't like
when you say that, I'm want to take you to church.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The no, but I think that's sweet. I think that
I do. I'm not. I'm not offended by that.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
A lot of people, I think are misinterpreting what she's
saying because I'm reading through the comments and they're like,
I get it. You want them to suffer. No, No,
that's not No, that's not what Kristen's saying. No, she's
not saying suffer over death. She's just saying let's avoid
all of that and and find what's maybe going on
inside you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, but I'm not the problem. They're the problem. They're
the ones that should go away instead. I have to
go away to church.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
But you want them to go away to like die,
get rid of the just go to another part of
the world. Like why do they have to be completely well?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Also, how do I get well? Two things I'm going
to answer that.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I hear you so much. I wish you would relocate.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, but that's you. Also, you realize that's unrealistic. Well,
why are they moving? Right, Diane's right, I hate you. Well,
I guess I'll put my house up for sale and
move move to Asia.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
You just have to wish and hope that they move
away far from you, or you move away?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Are you moving?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Then they move?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
It's not a neighbor.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
You don't have to talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Them the yea, I don't you know what, I definitely
don't have to talk to them. But but then, but
now everything becomes my problem. And and just because they
move to another part of the world doesn't make them
a good person.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
But it's out of your hair and you shouldn't have
to worry about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So you're you're you're better.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You like it better to take a bad person and go,
don't be in my community, go ruin those people's lives.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
You're like the eradicator Elliott. You want this problem? God, yeah, society.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's like me saying, oh this is this is a
real problem for me.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Well here, Diane, like, not my problem.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, why do I wish that on somebody?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
If it's a bad person, why do I wish that
on another group of people?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Maybe it's tolerated different over there.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And again that was.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, no, but because Christon said another part of the world,
but it doesn't there's still a bad person.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
So for you, because I'm also worried that people are
hearing this and thinking, well, Elliott's idea of someone bad
is just being wronged in the office. No, No, this
extends beyond these walls.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Here's if I'm guilty of anything. It's I'm very liberal
with the times that I will yell.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh God, just die. Because now you say a lot,
but a lot of times it's in passing.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Well, you don't really mean that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, It's like there are times where I get mad,
like when the phones are messed.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Up, and I'm like, I wish somebody would just blow
up the building. Well, I don't want somebody to blow
up the building.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I know I had that common conversation with HR
a number of years ago when somebody complained and felt unsafe.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But obviously I don't want somebody I don't want to
blow up the building. So sometimes I'm like, oh my God,
just die.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't mean no at that moment, but there are
some people that I would be fine with if they die.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You're also, maybe, in the other hand, thinking of those
that are bad across all facets of life, not just
professionally and also personally or also just when it comes.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
To sure.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
General behavior.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes, okay, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Because that's again this gets back to what I was
worried about at the beginning, where It's like, well, why
do you get to determine who's bad and who's good universally?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
We know?
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Have you ever said like those words? I can't even
say them. I wish blah blah blah would die or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Probably I've never said that. Are you serious? Oh my god?
Speaker 6 (15:05):
She also doesn't say the word right unless I'm really
really drunk or met.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Cheese and rice.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't say the word what.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Three minutes faith, because that's clear.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Why don't want people to be mad at me? I
don't you know? What all I did was ask a
scruples question.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I've been so I've been put on the spot myself.
Now I feel like by Kristen that question was for tylerbody,
whereas Ellian and Dyane were easy targets. Now I feel
like I'm in the crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You've wished death on people?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But have I really though? Because I think you, Elliott,
can really have I give you a list of.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
People I wish would die?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Maybe maybe I haven't explicitly said that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Or do you approach it? Can I? Can? I? Do
you approach it passively instead of actively?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Let me explain, like I have no problem going like
I wish so and so would just die.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We'd all be better off if they would die, right,
I don't and I don't. I don't. I don't feel
bad about that, sorry, Christian.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But do you look at it the do you approach
it the other way and go, I don't wish death
on them, but.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
If they died, you know what, we'd probably all be
better off.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
If that's what you want to call a car accident. See,
I think I've said that before.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh man, But that doesn't mean they die. You wish
they were in a car accident.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
See, I would never say that.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Because you love cars too much.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
The no, no, but that it's too open ended. You
don't know what happens. I'd rather just cut to the
chase now. No, I'm serious because I don't want somebody
to suffer.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
See.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
IRA's take is, don't wish death on someone death is over,
wish her struggle struggle lasts much longer.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
See, but I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
That's when you revel in people's misfortunes.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, no, and I can I can I tell you
why I don't like that? Can I tell you why I.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Don't like that? Is it is when when? When? When?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
When there's somebody, and I already know what the response is,
which is why I'm stuttering all over the place. The
when somebody is struggling or or or what's the other word,
not struggling but suffering like that. Really, they're they're even
bad people. There are people that like try to be
(17:27):
like love them.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I guess at some level, I know there's somebody in
their circle that's going through it with them.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, I don't. I don't want that for them.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Like I'm like, there are like, let me give you
a different example, right, let me give you a different example.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I could.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I could put together a long list of people that
I think should be fired. Right, But firing somebody sucks
because I always feel bad.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Oh the effects are far reaching.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
No, no, And that's why I feel bad if you
fire somebody and it does it sucks because I know
they have to pick up the phone and call their husband,
their wife, their boyfriend, their girlfriend on the way home
and go I just got fired.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You may deserve it, and you got fired for a reason,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I don't like it for the other side of it,
because they're every Now, I know what you're gonna say
when that person dies, But.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Is what you're countering.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
But the recovery process starts immediately. They don't suffer with them, like,
oh now we've got.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
To get a job.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Looked at the stages of grief, the stance is a
far way down.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, but I abbreviate a lot of that. And again,
these were bad people. That's the part we're forgetting. These
are bad people.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
So you think it would just be easier just.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
To be done instead of suffering.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I don't want people to suffer if sorry, I'm a
good person like that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
For these people's families immediate and extended, and I imagine
friends too that come, what'd you say, February March. Instead
of getting laid off, they.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Just die depends on who's on that list. No, but
but but no.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
A lot of good people lose their job, yes, yeah,
and unfortunately a lot of bad people kept them.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But you're right, this has to be a bad person.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yes, Okay, that's the part we're forgetting.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
This is the stuff they teach you in sermons. Go
to church, the Christen Please sorry.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So that that sentence has never come out of your mouth. No, really,
I can't have you ever?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Have you ever? And again, not not a not like
somebody notorious. But can you think of anybody that you hate?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, I hate people, but I could never wish death
on you.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You can't hate someone that much, no matter how much
of a disgusting pig they are, correct, right, you'd rather
than move away it go be disgusting people to others.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yep, because then it's not your eyes problem anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
The piece, I get it, Roman Catholic, all right?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Did we settle that? It took a much different turn
than I expected? But I like it?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, but I like now. I like it though. I'm
glad to hear that
Do we all agree.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
That we are in the general sense of the term
good people? Yes, you think that about yourself that in
the general sir, listen, are you perfect?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
No, very few of us are.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You are?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No, But in the general sense of the term, you
would say that you are a good person. I would
agree with that. I would agree. I think you're a
very good person.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Oh, you agree with Diane thinking that? Yees say so
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I do I think I'm a good person? You don't. Honestly,
you don't think I'm a good person.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
No, but I'm saying honestly, you don't think he would
say he's a good person.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
No, no, no, no, I'm being honest. Why you don't
think I'm a good person.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
No, I didn't say that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I think I'm a very good person.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Actually, yeah, but I wouldn't think that you would think
of yourself as not being a good person.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
If I didn't think I was, I would. There's definitely
been points in my life where I don't think I've
been a good person. Yeah, Like you said, nobody's perfect, right,
and I would you I know what my answer would
be for you. But do you feel like, in the
general sense of the term you're a good person.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I do.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yes, Yeah, I do too. I would say the same
about Kristen that in the listen are we perfect? No,
but in the general excuse me, in the general sense,
and he just messed it up. Of the term I would,
I would say, we're all good people. Now, I really would.
I really would.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
But what's the what's the cats?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Is this wrong?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Remember you're a good person, right? Is it wrong to
wish that a bad person.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Was dead?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Do you need any more context than that? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, I absolutely And I'm not talking about somebody who
I'm not talking like like like who is somebody like
I'm not talking about like a notorious killer or you know, like.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well you know what.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I hate to say it, but Hitler should be dead.
Like I'm not talking about somebody like that. I'm just
talking about somebody that you know, we may not know
who it is, but just kind of some nameless, faceless
person again that you know, and you know, then not
to be a good person, you would you would say,
in the general sense of the term, they're a bad person, right,
(02:17):
is it wrong to wish they were dead?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I mean, then you're gonna get saddled with Oh, is
it really this good to think that way at this
time of year or any time.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Any time of year. This has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
That makes that makes you know better than them, and
so you don't have to like I can secretly wish
for something.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
No, no, you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'm not saying you got to go stand on the
rooftop and shout that you wish this person was dead. Right,
but being a good person, a generally good person, can
you reconcile wishing a generally bad person was dead?
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yeah, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah up, Hi, I didn't even I don't know what
debate was going on in your head.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I was done like that. Uh maybe not in the
other room.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well, I was going to say, and Kristen, please, I
don't I'm not putting words in your mouth, but personally
turn it on. I was going to say, for Elliott,
if you were asking that question to us and just
identified yourself as a in the general sense of the
term good person.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Right, we know you've done this. What's that?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
So clearly you think as a quote unquote good person,
you're allowed to wish death on somebody.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh, yeah, I have no problem with that. But I
think I'm not killing them. I'm not going to their
house of killing them, but I do. I think there
are people that we would all be better off if
they didn't exist.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Absolutely, But I think that the absolutely what's problematic.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I'm not even talking about somebody who like has
done something horrific.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Right, you excuse those people which objectively people wish didn't exist.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
But I think where you're going to run into trouble
is who are you to get to say the person bad.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Like somewhere in their life somebody thinks that that person.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Is create more because we know just from Elliott's celebrity grudges,
it fails to impress a lot of people. Why you
have life long revenge on your mind for a handful of.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Because they're horrible people.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, okay, you for those people, but you're not necessarily
death on them.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I mean, I'd have to spend some time, But I
don't know that I wish Judith Light dead. I know
at one moment I did, No, No, it was more
than fleeting. But what makes seven years takes seven years
to get out from under credit?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
What makes someone bad? And why do you then get
to decide that?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, because I'm asking myself.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Did you say because I'm good?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I am good? I am good?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Do you do you agree I believe that you, in
a general sense of the term, are a good person?
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Well, thank you?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
No, But do you think that about yourself?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, And I said the I said that about everybody
in this room.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You do.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
We are good people, thank you. Now there's people in
the world who not are not all good.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
We know that.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Like you said, the sixcludes the murder.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Right of course, of course.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
Yeah, views on that, get rid of them.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Whoa, whoa, limb, whoa.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
But you do not wish death on people. You may
hate them, but if you wish death on people, go
find Jesus, go to church.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yes, so it is going to have even though Elliott
said it wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Wow, I was not expecting that.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I are you serious yet?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
There's hate is a big strong word and I don't
use it often, but I do for a tiny bit
of people. Right, But I would never wish death on
those people.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Hl?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Go find Jesus?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The you two Diane?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yes, yes, now it's worth it.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Here's that fight you wanted.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I can't can I can I ask you a question.
I want you to be completely honest. Are you doing
a bit?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
No?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
I literally, like I cannot imagine. I feel as if
you wish death on somebody, then that would be you
personally getting rid of them and killing them.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And you can you no, no, I say no. I
didn't say I wanted to kill him. I just wish
they would die.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm not going to go to jail for a piece
of garbage.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You. No, I couldn't kill someone. I'm a good person. Yeah,
I thank you. I couldn't kill somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You don't get a little bit of satisfaction about, Like
when when somebody has like a bad round of luck,
who you know to be a real piece of crap.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
That's total than death.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Okay, But.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
But is that is that in your mind being not
a good person? Like do you need Jesus because of that?
Speaker 6 (07:00):
If somebody gets hit by a bus and lives?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Like oh no, oh that was heartfelt, by the way,
did you?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Diane turned around like she had just put Kristen into checkmate. WHOA, Well,
if you if you're okay with that, do you need
to go find the Lord?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
But you know what I mean? Like, like I I no,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I'm fine with it.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I it doesn't have to be like.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I revel in people having like, uh, you know, bad
things happen to them.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Okay, that that now.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Like a select, like a select, show me down, a
select a select few people.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, but I don't want to see.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Here's where now let me let me well, let me
back pedal from Diane.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I don't wish somebody to suffer.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
That's what death is.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No, it's not.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Now it can be real quick. I'm painless, so it
might be Diane's car.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
No, no, no, I I agree with Diane. I agree
with Diane. I don't.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I don't wish for somebody to suffer. I don't want
somebody to say suffer like it's.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Different for animals. If you see a deer suffering, you
shoot it again, so then you get it out of
its misery. That's death that you get rid of.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
That.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
So if the person I wish death on is suffering,
I should shoot them.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
That's what no, like, that's all.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
No, No, I don't want to do that. I told
you I don't want to kill anybody good. I'm a
good person.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
But you don't wish death on somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Well, that's where you're wrong. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
So let me let me ask you this though, what
if it's somebody And again I don't I don't want somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
To suffer, right, I mean that I don't want. But
what if what if.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
If you know the when I say the world like
if I'm gone tomorrow, the world doesn't care if the
community their community, whatever the community is, how big or small,
if everybody would be better off, happier, like, less angry
like At that point, don't you go like, yeah, okay,
(09:02):
so so it's good to.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Get rid of them from your community. It means go
away to somewhere else. It doesn't mean die, not me, No,
they should die.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, So like you can think how great that is
you alleviate it from everybody.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
Like I hate people who are discussing. There are so
many discussing people out there.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Wait, disgusting, disgusting, disgusting.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yeah, disgusting.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
What did I say discussing? Yeah? No one said disgusting.
Oh I must not have hurt. But I'll tell you
what I hate is that orthotic?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
But I don't mean an example from your personal life.
But what would be an example of something someone does
with some consistency that is disgusting. Okay, I have a condition, like.
Speaker 6 (09:53):
Somebody who's like a discussing pig, who's.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know, give me, give me, give me an example
of somebody who's disgusting, you know, a disgusting pig.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
What would be and again not it's.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Easy to go with, like, well, the guy it's a
child predator, like obviously that's a that's a disgusting pig, right, okay,
but what is what is like?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Where what makes them disgusting?
Speaker 6 (10:25):
It's so inappropriate and like they should be put away
in jail?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Oh okay, so it's not just I was law Yes, okay,
I didn't know if she thought a womanizer is disgusting?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yes, like people, I don't have the morals in a jail.
Well yeah, get rid of like, get rid of them.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Womanis have to go to jail, see y'all?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, Well, Dane, I'm gonna go ahead. I had a
Sydney Sweeney story for you, but I'll go ahead and
hold on to that.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
But don't wish death on people. The I don't like
when you say that, I'm want to take you to church.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
The no, but I think that's sweet. I think that
I do. I'm not. I'm not offended by that.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
A lot of people, I think are misinterpreting what she's
saying because I'm reading through the comments and they're like,
I get it. You want them to suffer. No, No,
that's not No, that's not what Kristen's saying. No, she's
not saying suffer over death. She's just saying let's avoid
all of that and and find what's maybe going on
inside you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, but I'm not the problem. They're the problem. They're
the ones that should go away instead. I have to
go away to church.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
But you want them to go away to like die,
get rid of the just go to another part of
the world. Like why do they have to be completely well?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Also, how do I get well? Two things I'm going
to answer that.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
I hear you so much. I wish you would relocate.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, but that's you. Also, you realize that's unrealistic. Well,
why are they moving? Right, Diane's right, I hate you. Well,
I guess I'll put my house up for sale and
move move to Asia.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
You just have to wish and hope that they move
away far from you, or you move away?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Are you moving?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Then they move?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
It's not a neighbor.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
You don't have to talk to.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Them the yea, I don't you know what, I definitely
don't have to talk to them. But but then, but
now everything becomes my problem. And and just because they
move to another part of the world doesn't make them
a good person.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
But it's out of your hair and you shouldn't have
to worry about it anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So you're you're you're better.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You like it better to take a bad person and go,
don't be in my community, go ruin those people's lives.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
You're like the eradicator Elliott. You want this problem? God, yeah, society.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
That's like me saying, oh this is this is a
real problem for me.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Well here, Diane, like, not my problem.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, why do I wish that on somebody?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
If it's a bad person, why do I wish that
on another group of people?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
Maybe it's tolerated different over there.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
And again that was.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, no, but because Christon said another part of the world,
but it doesn't there's still a bad person.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
So for you, because I'm also worried that people are
hearing this and thinking, well, Elliott's idea of someone bad
is just being wronged in the office. No, No, this
extends beyond these walls.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Here's if I'm guilty of anything. It's I'm very liberal
with the times that I will yell.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh God, just die. Because now you say a lot,
but a lot of times it's in passing.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Well, you don't really mean that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, It's like there are times where I get mad,
like when the phones are messed.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Up, and I'm like, I wish somebody would just blow
up the building. Well, I don't want somebody to blow
up the building.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
And I know I had that common conversation with HR
a number of years ago when somebody complained and felt unsafe.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But obviously I don't want somebody I don't want to
blow up the building. So sometimes I'm like, oh my God,
just die.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't mean no at that moment, but there are
some people that I would be fine with if they die.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
But does that make sense?
Speaker 4 (14:19):
You're also, maybe, in the other hand, thinking of those
that are bad across all facets of life, not just
professionally and also personally or also just when it comes.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
To sure.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
General behavior.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yes, okay, yeah, yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Because that's again this gets back to what I was
worried about at the beginning, where It's like, well, why
do you get to determine who's bad and who's good universally?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
We know?
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Have you ever said like those words? I can't even
say them. I wish blah blah blah would die or whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Probably I've never said that. Are you serious? Oh my god?
Speaker 6 (15:05):
She also doesn't say the word right unless I'm really
really drunk or met.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Cheese and rice.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't say the word what.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Three minutes faith, because that's clear.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Why don't want people to be mad at me? I
don't you know? What all I did was ask a
scruples question.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I've been so I've been put on the spot myself.
Now I feel like by Kristen that question was for tylerbody,
whereas Ellian and Dyane were easy targets. Now I feel
like I'm in the crosshairs.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You've wished death on people?
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But have I really though? Because I think you, Elliott,
can really have I give you a list of.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
People I wish would die?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Maybe maybe I haven't explicitly said that.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Or do you approach it? Can I? Can? I? Do
you approach it passively instead of actively?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Let me explain, like I have no problem going like
I wish so and so would just die.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We'd all be better off if they would die, right,
I don't and I don't. I don't. I don't feel
bad about that, sorry, Christian.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
But do you look at it the do you approach
it the other way and go, I don't wish death
on them, but.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
If they died, you know what, we'd probably all be
better off.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
If that's what you want to call a car accident. See,
I think I've said that before.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Oh man, But that doesn't mean they die. You wish
they were in a car accident.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
See, I would never say that.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Because you love cars too much.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
The no, no, but that it's too open ended. You
don't know what happens. I'd rather just cut to the
chase now. No, I'm serious because I don't want somebody
to suffer.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
See.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
IRA's take is, don't wish death on someone death is over,
wish her struggle struggle lasts much longer.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
See, but I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
That's when you revel in people's misfortunes.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No, no, and I can I can I tell you
why I don't like that? Can I tell you why I.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Don't like that? Is it is when when? When? When?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
When there's somebody, and I already know what the response is,
which is why I'm stuttering all over the place. The
when somebody is struggling or or or what's the other word,
not struggling but suffering like that. Really, they're they're even
bad people. There are people that like try to be
(17:27):
like love them.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I guess at some level, I know there's somebody in
their circle that's going through it with them.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Yeah, I don't. I don't want that for them.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Like I'm like, there are like, let me give you
a different example, right, let me give you a different example.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I could.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I could put together a long list of people that
I think should be fired. Right, But firing somebody sucks
because I always feel bad.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Oh the effects are far reaching.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
No, no, And that's why I feel bad if you
fire somebody and it does it sucks because I know
they have to pick up the phone and call their husband,
their wife, their boyfriend, their girlfriend on the way home
and go I just got fired.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
You may deserve it, and you got fired for a reason,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I don't like it for the other side of it,
because they're every Now, I know what you're gonna say
when that person dies, But.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Is what you're countering.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
But the recovery process starts immediately. They don't suffer with them, like,
oh now we've got.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
To get a job.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Looked at the stages of grief, the stance is a
far way down.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, but I abbreviate a lot of that. And again,
these were bad people. That's the part we're forgetting. These
are bad people.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
So you think it would just be easier just.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
To be done instead of suffering.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
I don't want people to suffer if sorry, I'm a
good person like that.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
For these people's families immediate and extended, and I imagine
friends too that come, what'd you say, February March. Instead
of getting laid off, they.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Just die depends on who's on that list. No, but
but but no.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
A lot of good people lose their job, yes, yeah,
and unfortunately a lot of bad people kept them.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But you're right, this has to be a bad person.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yes, Okay, that's the part we're forgetting.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
This is the stuff they teach you in sermons. Go
to church, the Christen Please sorry.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So that that sentence has never come out of your mouth. No, really,
I can't have you ever?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Have you ever? And again, not not a not like
somebody notorious. But can you think of anybody that you hate?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, I hate people, but I could never wish death
on you.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
You can't hate someone that much, no matter how much
of a disgusting pig they are, correct, right, you'd rather
than move away it go be disgusting people to others.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yep, because then it's not your eyes problem anymore.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
The piece, I get it, Roman Catholic, all right?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Did we settle that? It took a much different turn
than I expected? But I like it?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, but I like now. I like it though. I'm
glad to hear that
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