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January 14, 2025 19 mins
Ryanair's diversion program.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Ryanair, and I feel like you've seen this bubble
up a little bit. Ryanair is petitioning, petitioning that there
be a law change where people at an airport are
only allowed to drinks while they're at the airport period.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
So this has nothing to do with the carrier itself, correct,
This is the airport.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
They're saying.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, Ryanair is saying, as a carrier, we bear the
result of what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
They're not wrong, So you'll let people.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Come in here and then I'll and then I'll get
to the part about somebody being the cause of a diversion.
But they're saying, we we you, you'll feed them one
hundred drinks.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
You don't care, right, and it's the and then they
get on with beer specials.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Right, And either you get on Ryanair, you get on Spirit,
you get on what other ones always have fights Frontier
like you end up on those flights Jet Blue, and
now we're stuck with them after you got them drunk.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
You got all the.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Money in the world, and now I've got a problem
on the plane and we just don't think it's fair. Now,
we're not going to try to put the bars out
of business, but two drinks period. That's all you should get.
And they said, well, how do we monitor that? And

(01:40):
they said, you find a way to monitor when somebody
goes to duty free. We're using like their boarding paths
or something. I think I've purchased at duty free like once,
maybe twice, but I don't remember how they designate that.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
They have to verify your traveling internationally. Isn't that why
you have to show them your boarding pass?

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Probably I got like five hundred packs of cigarettes with
the big, the giganic looking mark Brook.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
It looks like a pack of cigarettes, and inside it's
all packs of cigarettes.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
That's not just traveling internationally. I'm trafficking internationally. Yeah, they're
like Russian dolls. So I guess maybe they did that.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't, like I said, I've used duty free once,
so I'm not familiar enough with how it works. But
they're saying use their boarding pass, like, figure out a
way that we're not on the receiving end of that.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
And then the airport's saying.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, what do you want to do some people, some
people have delays of eight, nine, ten hours, some people
are overnight. They're not entitled to more than two drinks.
And Ryanair said, then you fly them or let us
get them drunk and you deal with them.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
What did we learn that was called like airport time?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh uh, something like that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
But yeah, it's interesting in that it's seven thirty in
the morning. Let's let's guzzle.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I have one that almost caused the diversion before we
get to ones that actually did. If you'd like to
hear that story. Sure, I set an alarm off by vaping.
This is from Billy whoops in the airplane bathroom on
the way to Cancun for my honeymoon.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Flight.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Attendants said they could have diverted the plane or had
me charged federally. Thank goodness, I had given them all
gift cards when boarding.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
He gave her the honey and it's weird cards. Well,
probably just to be taken care of. Oh it's nice,
it's it's like a twenty yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
And writes this proposed law change would have prevented my
incident because we missed our first flight and drank in
the American Express lounge for six hours.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh, I didn't even think of lounges. Yes, I didn't
even think of a lounge. Isn't it free? In there.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, Kristen says, yes, okay, oh my god, it is.
It's free. I didn't know's what Kristen said. Damn.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, if I have an American Express. And what did
Shrineye always say about American Express?

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Do not, Elliott, do not?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
So if I have American Express, I just go write
in the American Express, Loune, are you serious, I'm getting
an American Express.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
I'd go drink for free for six hours. Now.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
The lounges seem like they would be able to at
least more efficiently limit consumption of alcohol. No, because it's
not just pulling up seat and a barstool on the concourse,
like you have to be granted admission into those lounges.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. No, but if you get access into those lounges,
it's wide open.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
There's like you just walk up and grab stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh I didn't know it was I thought you still
had it.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, you just walk up and grab so like there's like.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
A like a cooler cooler drinks, not like a Yettie cooler,
but like a like a like you're at the like
you're at a seven eleven.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, yeah, you just go on and grab whatever. That's
my understanding. Yeah, I can drink fifty beers.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
There's nobody monitoring me, and I'm gonna get on that
Ryan Air flight and then I'm.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Gonna fight and I'm smoking in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Quote Billy, This proposed latchane could have prevented my incident.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Line too.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Hi Elliott in the morning, Good morning, Elliott.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm doing great? How are you good?

Speaker 5 (05:51):
So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
The story is not about the flight being diverted, but
there was a relative that got so drunk before getting
to the airport and then got really drunk at the
airport that they put her off the plane and left
her sitting in a wheelchair at the departures gate, all
covered in.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Vomit until somebody could pick it up.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Not a pleasant ride home, Elliott.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Very good. So here's the other thing. Well here, let
me try another one line one.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Hi Elliott in the morning. Yeah, Hi, who's that.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
From Napolis?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yes, sir, what can I do for you?

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Said, my stepfather is an early flying back from Florida,
also from Annapolis, and he got to the airport, got
self hammered at the airport lounge. They will not let
him on the flight.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
They didn't let him get on the fly.

Speaker 5 (06:48):
They didn't let him get on the plane.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
But he wasn't the reason for a diversion of the fly.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
No, no, But I've got I have another one that
my brother's best friend.

Speaker 7 (06:58):
He got on the play also. Really he was so
gron he got on a plate. They checked his ticket,
let him on the plate.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
When send a seat the one to go to land
you were landing and was Charlotte.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
They let him get on the wrong plate.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Fantastic, fantastic, Thank you, sir, thank you. So here's my question.
You're the one that causes the diversion. You're smoking, you're drunk,
you're doing whatever, You're in a fight. The cops come
on the plane when you land, they escort you off

(07:36):
and you get charged or you know whatever it is.
And I don't know what happens after that, but you
get charged with something, and then there's the process. Are
you ready for step two of what Ryanair wants to do? Okay, So,
if it's not bad enough that the airports bear no
responsibility causing a diversion on a flight, at least according

(07:58):
to what I was reading about Ryan, sounds like it
is a slap on the wrist charges get reduced.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's an inconvenience, but it doesn't. It's not.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yes, there's legal fees, and I understand that. However, here's
what here's step two of Ryanaire's.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Rule change or law change.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
If you are the cause of the diversion, you are
now responsible for the fuel.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
What's that cost?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Also, you caused a flight delay. There is no we
can't there is no other plane to put everybody on.
We have to put one hundred and sixty passengers up
for a night so that they could get a plane
on the morning.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
You're responsible for that money the hotel.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yes, So now you bear the financial responsibility of the
flight diversion from drinking.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Now you started a fight.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
We were going from New York to Seattle, and you
caused a fight and we had to land in Chicago.
You're gonna pay for the fuel. You're gonna pay for
us having to land. You're gonna pay for us having
to go to the gate and take up gate space

(09:23):
that we weren't expecting to do.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
You have to pay out the ass for it. Did
they give an estimate of what an average type fine
like that would be.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
They did say it's more expensive than just having to
drinks through.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Now, Ryanair is known as like the cheapest airline, no
frill even Spirit laughs in no preference. You know it
is a low cost European airline.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Right, it's Spirit of the UK.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
So and I understand wanting to recoup the cost, right,
but anyone saying this is because it's like the cheapest
airline in the world.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
No, no, no, they're saying it's not just it's not
just recouping the cost. It's trying to be preventative. They're saying,
you have every measure to not do this, but nobody's
helping us. Yeah, everybody, and listen there. I don't know
if more incidents happen on what's an expensive airline, like

(10:26):
Virgin sounds expensive. I don't think I've ever been on
a Virgin flight. Virgin sounds expensive. But do more fights
happen on Spirit Air on aggregate and frontier than Spirit
than Virgin?

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Right, so Spirit, if I were Spirit, I'd be like,
you're causing this problem, Like we're just on the receiving
end of it.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
That's what Ryanaire is saying.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
They get drunk at the at the airport, they get
drunk on the way to the airport. They get drunk
at the airport and then we got to start diverting,
and you're messing up all all of our other and
then all of the other.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Customers are like spirit sucks.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
We had to land and there was a fight and
there Billy was smoking. There's a woman at the gate
in a mount chair covered in vomit, and they paid
the price for it, but they had nothing to do
on the On the beginning.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
From Brian, I flew Ryan Air from Manchester to Dublin.
There's a men's soccer team on my flight. It was
delayed three hours. They spent the whole time drinking. By
the time we were boarding, they were so rowdy A
handful of them weren't even allowed on the flight. One
of the coaches had to stay back with them. It
took an extra bit to take off because the flight
attendants had to go to the safety thing before takeoff.

(11:42):
Was before takeoff uninterrupted, but they wouldn't shut up. It
was the worst. The entire plane was pissed off at them.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Charge them, charge them.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
So would there be some sort of Yes, they didn't
have to divert, but that I'm sure that that I.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Had to start over you added an hour's time.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
You're burning fuel that's gonna cost you, you know whatever?

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Wow, And what are the people who familiar with the
regulations overseas, what are they responding with to these.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I don't I cries for help.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I don't know what the I don't I don't from
a government or a parliament standpoint.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
I have no idea. I do know on.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Behalf of Heathrow. Go after yourself. Go after yourself.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Britain wants to know if your travel insurance will cover it.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Isn't that crazy though, man like the two drink thing,
people will find a way around that.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
They always see him too.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, but now your respond Now you roll the dice.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I can drink. Listen.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I've been drunk on planes and I've never been in
a fight, so I'd roll the dice. But if you've
got maybe you've been told once or twice in your
life that you need anger management.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
You never know what'll set you off. Hold on a second,
that is you.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
It took me a moment, but I've never been on
a fight on a plane. Okay, Line six, Hi Ellie
in the morning, Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's this? Yeah? What
can I do for you?

Speaker 8 (13:27):
Sir, I was on a plane back from Las Vegas
to Baltimore, and uh, we were probably about maybe thirty
minutes into the flight back, and uh, the couple behind
us had a little child that was literally running back

(13:49):
and forth between their knees and the seat.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
And they kept bumping bumping all of us in our
in my row. So I was waiting until the flight
attendant was coming towards us, and I turned around and
I said something to the guy about.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Can you have your child stop?

Speaker 4 (14:10):
And he got a little mad and threatened me. Luckily
he was in front of the flight attendant and she.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Called to the pilot and we diverted to Saint Louis
and the police escorted him. All are you serious? Oh
my god, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Yeah, that that happened about two thousand and eight, so
it was a little time ago.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Right, see, But now I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
I don't know what happened to him after that, Like
they just escorted.

Speaker 8 (14:43):
Him off, and about another thirty minutes we took back off.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Oh okay, but still we had a divert. I had
to wait thirty I had to refuel to take off.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I'm time delayed.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
The like there's a I bet if you if you like,
don't They always say it like, I've never bought fuel
for a plane, but that's expensive. Jet fuel is expensive.
It's got to cost even if it costs. All of
a sudden, you're landed, you've been arrested, you still have
your legal charges, and now you're stranded in Saint Louis
and you owe the airlines fifteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Maybe you think twice. Maybe.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, it was kind of funny and really was a
little annoyed that we had to land, but the people
on our road were kind of happy that.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, he's gone scale of one to ten.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
The life and the child too.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I was gonna say, boy, that's that's a fun stay
in Saint Louis. I know, Jackie, I know, Hey, can
I ask you this scale of one? Attend to be honest?
And I know you wouldn't show it in front of him.
How scared were you that he was just going to
just start punching?

Speaker 7 (15:56):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (15:56):
Not that bad?

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Oh, really I would have been.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
No, it wasn't that bad.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
He was quite angry.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, they diverted a flight. I'm sure I get that.
I get that he was angry, thank you dude.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Now, Jonathan, though Jonathan wonders, can't you through the court
system somehow spin this even if it was alcohol that
started all of this, but it was a medical diversion
that actually was the reason we had to land elsewhere?

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Or did you have your lawyers going go, hey, listen,
the reason he was acting up was he's got a
heart issue, right, I mean yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Mean the Texas Whistle would fight because they made no
mention of medical They just said, this is alcohol fueled incidents.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, or just just alcohol or or or yeah, or
just violence.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
But I have also low blood sugar and tea, well
low tea. I'm not fighting, I'm cowering, right, Although you
would have been angry if you were a passenger on
that flight, maybe not in the same row, but if
you could get a sense of what was happening, you
would have called that one guy who caused you to
get diverted a snitch.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
You would have boot him. You told on, I'd have
been with the other guy with the kid. I'll help
you whip his ass. Line three.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Hi Elliott in the morning, Yeah, Hi, real.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Quick, What can I do for you, sir?

Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hi?

Speaker 7 (17:37):
I was like fifteen one time coming back from the
Caribbean without my parents and got like super drunk in
the airport and like you know, they start boarding the plane.
We're at like the little bar there. They'll they would
serve pretty much anybody who could see over the bar, right,
and me and my friend realize like, oh crap, they're
not gonna like serve us alcohol and the plane.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
So we both ordered like six beers from the airport
bar and try.

Speaker 7 (18:04):
To take them onto the plane right, and the bar
wouldn't serve them to us close, and so we just
have like six open coronas there, and the person at
the gates like you can't bring this on the flight,
Like I don't know, you're safety here, and.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
So youz them.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yeah, he goes what the hell and like opens his
arms and literally six bottles of beer just like fall
off the.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Floor, scattered, like three of them, like shatter everywhere. Then
we get onto the plane and like while we're like taxiing, uh,
I have to vomit, So like I make a beeline
like right for the bathroom, like the flight attendants like
you're like chasing after me. I vomit in the toilet.

(18:52):
You know how small airport bathrooms are I literally like
curl up in the fetal position and like pass out
on the bathroom floor. And I guess the flight attendants
were feeling nice.

Speaker 7 (19:02):
They like eventually I woke up from like the banging
on the door, They get me out. They like cleared
a whole row for me.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
And the last thing I remember is the flight attendant
like tucking me in.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
I went, thanks Mom, and like fellow
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