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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't want to go into the weekend angry, so
I'll just go ahead and get this off my chest.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Now, why are you looking at me? I'm not upset
with you, No, not at all. Oh my god, the
way you crush the fifteen puzzled today? No, nobody. Somebody
sent me something.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And this is where I have to be careful, right,
I'm like hillbilly on one side of the fence. No. No,
I like when somebody sees something and says, oh, you
know what, I gotta send this. I got to send
this to Elliott or any of us. Got to make
sure they saw it. I love that eyes and ears.
(00:38):
Everywhere you see anything, make sure you send it. That's
why we have correspondents all over the place. But if
you see anything, by all means, please send it. Don't
assume one of us is going to see it, least
of all me. So I like that somebody sent me something.
(01:00):
I just didn't like the note attached to it. All right,
the note attached to it, I'm paraphrasing, was did you
write this letter?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No? I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But you know I love an advice column. I love
an advice column. Where I love reading an advice column.
So somebody else who obviously loves reading advice columns saw
a letter that was written to an advice column and
wanted to know if I wrote the letter. And at
first I thought, okay, well that's somebody who's doing some thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And then I read the thing and it seems way
off base. May I.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What is the rule about looking at women in public
as a red blooded male?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Okay, we have to we have to be able to
get through. But so far it sounds exactly like you.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What is the rule about looking at women in public
as a red blooded mail?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I would like to stare, but.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Of course that's rude and possibly antisocial. In the past,
when I've taken a quick glance and got caught, I
was given a sharp disapproving look from the woman and
often some bystanders.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Bystanders, you're obvious, Yeah, how bad was the glance?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
When I was married, I asked male coworkers what to
do about looking at women, considering my new status. One said,
you've got to smell the roses along the way.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I took that. I took that to heart and continue
to ogle women. Wait, what did the coork I don't
understand that you got to smell the road that like,
look for the beauty around you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Know what he was saying is even though I'm married,
is it still okay? And the guy was like, yeah,
you gotta look at the.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Roses, dear advice.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow, I took that tort and continue to ogle women.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh that's a verb. When women wear tight pants. It
seems unfair.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I take that back. The first sentence didn't sound like
you at all. This sounds like you. Continue.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Please, when women wear tight pants, it seems unfair. They
are very sexy, but men are not allowed to. Look
what do women prefer in this situation? I want to
do the right thing. Name withheld stretched out Elliott.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I love if the advice back was just, well, you
gotta smell the roses along the way you heard it here. Second,
the no, no, the the the so hard stop, that's
not me, that's not me. Uh A touch more emphatic
(04:01):
in your that's right. Okay. You've in the past had
maybe a social running social commentary on yoga pants. Oh, yes,
that is true.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Now, sometimes you think they shouldn't be worn, yes, but
sometimes you're fine with them.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, and it seems unfair. By the way. I don't
think I'm wrong there. I don't think I'm wrong. What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
My running commentary was like, if it looks like two
hundred pounds of mashed potatoes in there, you shouldn't be
wearing them.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
No, you shouldn't, But you don't have to tell people
what to wear. You're not spirit airlines. Now, if they
look great, then yes, they are very sexy or did
he say very twice? The no? Just one? Just once? O?
(05:04):
Can you imagine that when women wear tight pants it
seems unfaired?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Like I thought the worst part of the letter was
going to be red blooded male Like that was what
I thought was a bad start.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But maybe he'd come around.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
No, but that's just that, that's just him saying like
I can appreciate the finer things.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Actually wanting to do the right thing I guess is
coming around in the end.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yes, absolutely, we all want to do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yep, I'll say this, listen as long as we're Oh,
I'm sorry, Diane, you've never noticed if a if a,
if a gentleman is good looking, or if his outfit
enhances him, Well, sure, who's the who's the wrestler that
Kristen likes?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That? Michael Lashley She likes a lot of guys.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
She likes Bobby Lashley, formerly of the w W, but
she also likes Drew McIntyre, Randy Orton, and John Cena.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh John Cena.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right if they're wearing like tight workout slacks or pants.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, look at her face? Yeah? Oh god, what Kristen,
what did you? I told her she couldn't make those
sounds anymore. She's part of the Gray sweatpant Crew. What
did you just say? No, that's your mic, that's not on.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Take my panties.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's right, she did say that. I do. Yeah, when
the boys come up on the in the ring.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Kristen, Yeah, I yell, yell the panty you yelled at
in public?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, Jesus Christ wrestling audience. That's true. It's not the opera. Okay,
but I'm bad now, but I'm bad right up there
with you.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, I think that Kristen's fighting for women's rights and
the right to have your panties taken and not in
a raid where you haven't given consent.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So if we were, Kristen, if we were, if we
were in Cleveland, huh, and we were at we were
at a restaurant, right, and we saw a guy wearing
like like tight clothing walk by, and it was Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Take everything, Miles here here, I am listen to her.
Whole personality has changed. Here are look at them? What's them?
The boys? What are the boys?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Men?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh? I thought you were referred to my balls balls Kristen,
although you would take them. Yeah, and don't worry, Mike
knows everything.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, so, but that's from Kristen. That's how I noticed
a woman in tight pants.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And I'm an animal, But Kristen lists in a lot
of public figures. Yeah, it's like you're doing it like
in private.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, no, no, But if there was somebody who looked
like Miles Garrett or looked like Bobby Ashley, lash sorry,
and they and they walk by, you may not because
they're not as famous. You may not yell take my panties,
but you would at least look and go like that's hot.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I would say so Lashly and Garrett are only attractive
because they're famous.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I think I just see them more.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, of course you see them more. Jimmy the Bedridden
Jew isn't on TV every week?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can you see wrestle for the uh. I would say,
like your average Joe that you see walking down the street,
they're good looking, but I wouldn't ever say because they're
not my four guys, five guys.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Love, no, no, but forget, forget, forget that they're not
one of your five guys. Right, but Miles Garrett is, oh, yeah,
so you love Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
If there was a Miles Garrett look alike where we
had a debate is that or is that not Miles Garrett?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You would still find that guy attractive.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, and you would still you may not yell at
him to take your panties, but you would still what
did the guy go with?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Ogle him? Yeah? I guess so, yeah, thank you. That's
called honesty. By the way, great acting job there, Elliott.
What did the guy go with? In the letter?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Because as al Toyedo pointed out, this was the one
time Elliott hasn't stumbled over a story. It's almost like
he knew its contents. People are coming advice. I know
we haven't gotten there yet.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh what did they say? Billy says, wear sunglasses?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The no, no, But you know what, like, here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Here's the problem. If you agree with the guy, if
you go like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
If you see somebody with a nice ass and they're
wearing like like yoga pants, are like those athletic pants
or what is the what are the other ones? Like?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah? Or Lulu Lemon or something.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If you think you're not gonna look, I went to
doctor Nunziat.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
He probably does not want to be a part of
the story. Just don't use my name. Oh you know what,
you can use name with Held.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I went to name with Held's office when I no
when I have my broken ankle, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Would see Elliott, but it could have been another doctor's office.
Doesn't have to be the one you went to for that.
Oh my dentist. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Every time I went to the denist for for them
to look at my broken tooth, the same woman was
there around the same time. And she and again I'm
just being polite, she wore a pair of lue lose that.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean, honest, she should have been a model in
the magazine. What's so? What big deal? What's wrong with that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'm waiting to hear what the response is.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh. I looked yes and thought, wow, that is a
nice ass. I wish people would ogle me that OGL
just sounds awful? Does it sounds like? No, that's what
the guy went with to I continue to ogle women. Well,
what do you want him to say? Stare at address
(11:33):
with my eyes, stare at in manner? The ogle to
me isn't a bad word. Why is ogle a bad word?
Why is that a bat? Diane?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Because so it sound it sounds like you're being a
creep What what would sound less creepy?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Glancing? Well, that obviously is not a glance dot com
says lear at. Lear's bad gawk at or pervone? I
got my perv on? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So but so there is no positive spin on ogl Now,
so what is the What is the opposite of ogle?
If if to look at something perverted is to ogle it? Yeah,
to look at something positively?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What is that? Covet? What it sounds like you're coveting?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I am the opposite of ogel. Wouldn't it be like
not to poke your eyes out and not see it?
That wasn't me? Can I say that wasn't mean? No? Nope,
nor I. If you're not watching a channel, what you
have to guess?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I've already this morning been described as Chris collins Worth
looking again twenty five years younger than him.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, it would be to not look No, I know,
but to look at something with beauty and wonder what
is that called? If looking at something with perv is
to ogel, what is it to?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Antonyms for ogel are ignore, look away, or neglect.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, well, I don't want to look away. I'm drawn.
I'm a red blooded male. What am I supposed to
that gaze? I agree?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Because two lovers gaze into each other's eyes.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
No, the male gaze these days, Diane, that's immediately what
I think of and as meat gaze.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
No, And as.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
A as a feminist, I don't want to ever be
associated with the male gaze.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What is the male gaze?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Whether Diana and I are two lovers gazing into each
other's eyes?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Now, the male gaze is how women are depicted in
different meats.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh God, I can't win. Jesus Christ seems unfair. I'm
a red blood. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for you. Well,
how am I supposed to look at you like? How
am I supposed to in a healthy way? Objectifying? Come on? Yeah? No,
look at Christen? O.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
God, Christen's beyond objectifying and she is sexualizing.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Ain't been wrong with that. Don't worry. Her husband knows.
You can say the like a lady is a nice
looking lady. That's not bad. I agree. I agree with
you one hundred percent. But if you do, there wasn't
the question.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, but if you do, if I if I said,
if we were, if we were all walking down the hall,
so it's not just Tyler and I, but if we
were all walking down the hall, and I said, oh
my god, look at her.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Ask Jesus Christ, you can't say that. No, oh my god,
you just yelled take my panties because it's them. Yes,
And I'm saying the same thing. How is that? How
is that different? Doctor Sanchez says, Oh, doctor dirty admire
I like that. I like that. I'm admiring her. Can no,
(15:26):
not better. It's a double standard. Yes, I don't know
if it's a double standard in this case it is.
I can't. I could not say that walking down the hall.
(15:47):
I think it. But Christ, also, by the way, everybody
everybody thinks. Everybody thinks. I was caught up at a
sporting event. It was in a speed walking competition heading
down the hall, and I assumed there was maybe yoga, no, no,
but what do you do when you doing nothing?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Now, I will tell you this. The person does say that,
clearly people are going to look at things they find attractive.
I think everybody would agree with that. They think the
problem is crossing that line.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I have found the column. Yes, since you read your letter,
may I read the advice?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go ahead, come a wet blanket, dear name withheld.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
It's clear that you've sometimes looked at women in a
way that made them feel uncomfortable. Glancing at someone in
a public place is always permissible. There's often a fleeting
moment of mutual acknowledgment, perhaps a slight nod or smile.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Can I say this real quick?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Have I ever, to anybody's knowledge in this room stared
at somebody until they felt uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Who?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I've just seen you do it, and I'm assuming that
they are. I am good. I am good and not
getting caught stop. Okay, that's billy.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
This momentary connection is part of how we experience our
shared social world.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Thank you, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
If you find the person attractive, your glance may well
linger involuntarily for a moment, but prolonging that moment further
it can cross a line. We can't control our initial
notice of others. That's true, we can control our subsequent
subsequent choices. I suspect your quick glances aren't so quick
(17:57):
in public settings, Elliott. It's generally intrusive to display sexual interest.
What was the guy doing in the Key West story
dusting his hips back and forth? That it may sometimes
be welcome doesn't change the situation. Yes, a brief friendly
glance that produces a smile and a direct reciprocating look
(18:19):
can mean you're being invited to maintain eye contact. But
if there's any doubt the unease caused by leering is
bad enough that you should err on the side of
averting your gaze. But somebody just set off the Richie
scale in your case name withheld there normally should be doubt.
(18:45):
Being aware of whatever shortcomings we have in the skills
of everyday life can guide us toward better practices. Just
as people who know they have a poor sense of
direction learned to check maps more often. Someone who's ruggles
to read social signals around looking would do well by
being reserved and not risk making others uncomfortable. It's a
(19:09):
matter of taking the trouble to do what for you
doesn't come naturally and adopting habits that respect everyone's dignity.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Counterpoint, I am a red blooded male
I don't want to go into the weekend angry, so
I'll just go ahead and get this off my chest.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Now, why are you looking at me? I'm not upset
with you, No, not at all. Oh my god, the
way you crush the fifteen puzzled today? No, nobody. Somebody
sent me something.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
And this is where I have to be careful, right,
I'm like hillbilly on one side of the fence. No. No,
I like when somebody sees something and says, oh, you
know what, I gotta send this. I got to send
this to Elliott or any of us. Got to make
sure they saw it. I love that eyes and ears.
(00:38):
Everywhere you see anything, make sure you send it. That's
why we have correspondents all over the place. But if
you see anything, by all means, please send it. Don't
assume one of us is going to see it, least
of all me. So I like that somebody sent me something.
(01:00):
I just didn't like the note attached to it. All right,
the note attached to it, I'm paraphrasing, was did you
write this letter?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
No? I didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
But you know I love an advice column. I love
an advice column. Where I love reading an advice column.
So somebody else who obviously loves reading advice columns saw
a letter that was written to an advice column and
wanted to know if I wrote the letter. And at
first I thought, okay, well that's somebody who's doing some thinking.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And then I read the thing and it seems way
off base. May I.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What is the rule about looking at women in public
as a red blooded male?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Okay, we have to we have to be able to
get through. But so far it sounds exactly like you.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
What is the rule about looking at women in public
as a red blooded mail?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I would like to stare, but.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Of course that's rude and possibly antisocial. In the past,
when I've taken a quick glance and got caught, I
was given a sharp disapproving look from the woman and
often some bystanders.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Bystanders, you're obvious, Yeah, how bad was the glance?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
When I was married, I asked male coworkers what to
do about looking at women, considering my new status. One said,
you've got to smell the roses along the way.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I took that. I took that to heart and continue
to ogle women. Wait, what did the coork I don't
understand that you got to smell the road that like,
look for the beauty around you.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Know what he was saying is even though I'm married,
is it still okay? And the guy was like, yeah,
you gotta look at the.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Roses, dear advice.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Wow, I took that tort and continue to ogle women.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh that's a verb. When women wear tight pants. It
seems unfair.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I take that back. The first sentence didn't sound like
you at all. This sounds like you. Continue.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Please, when women wear tight pants, it seems unfair. They
are very sexy, but men are not allowed to. Look
what do women prefer in this situation? I want to
do the right thing. Name withheld stretched out Elliott.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
I love if the advice back was just, well, you
gotta smell the roses along the way you heard it here. Second,
the no, no, the the the so hard stop, that's
not me, that's not me. Uh A touch more emphatic
(04:01):
in your that's right. Okay. You've in the past had
maybe a social running social commentary on yoga pants. Oh, yes,
that is true.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Now, sometimes you think they shouldn't be worn, yes, but
sometimes you're fine with them.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yes, and it seems unfair. By the way. I don't
think I'm wrong there. I don't think I'm wrong. What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
No?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
My running commentary was like, if it looks like two
hundred pounds of mashed potatoes in there, you shouldn't be
wearing them.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
No, you shouldn't, But you don't have to tell people
what to wear. You're not spirit airlines. Now, if they
look great, then yes, they are very sexy or did
he say very twice? The no? Just one? Just once? O?
(05:04):
Can you imagine that when women wear tight pants it
seems unfaired?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Like I thought the worst part of the letter was
going to be red blooded male Like that was what
I thought was a bad start.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But maybe he'd come around.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
No, but that's just that, that's just him saying like
I can appreciate the finer things.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Actually wanting to do the right thing I guess is
coming around in the end.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yes, absolutely, we all want to do the right thing.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yep, I'll say this, listen as long as we're Oh,
I'm sorry, Diane, you've never noticed if a if a,
if a gentleman is good looking, or if his outfit
enhances him, Well, sure, who's the who's the wrestler that
Kristen likes?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That? Michael Lashley She likes a lot of guys.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
She likes Bobby Lashley, formerly of the w W, but
she also likes Drew McIntyre, Randy Orton, and John Cena.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Oh John Cena.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Right if they're wearing like tight workout slacks or pants.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, look at her face? Yeah? Oh god, what Kristen,
what did you? I told her she couldn't make those
sounds anymore. She's part of the Gray sweatpant Crew. What
did you just say? No, that's your mic, that's not on.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Take my panties.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's right, she did say that. I do. Yeah, when
the boys come up on the in the ring.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Kristen, Yeah, I yell, yell the panty you yelled at
in public?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, Jesus Christ wrestling audience. That's true. It's not the opera. Okay,
but I'm bad now, but I'm bad right up there
with you.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, I think that Kristen's fighting for women's rights and
the right to have your panties taken and not in
a raid where you haven't given consent.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So if we were, Kristen, if we were, if we
were in Cleveland, huh, and we were at we were
at a restaurant, right, and we saw a guy wearing
like like tight clothing walk by, and it was Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Take everything, Miles here here, I am listen to her.
Whole personality has changed. Here are look at them? What's them?
The boys? What are the boys?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Men?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Oh? I thought you were referred to my balls balls Kristen,
although you would take them. Yeah, and don't worry, Mike
knows everything.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Okay, so, but that's from Kristen. That's how I noticed
a woman in tight pants.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And I'm an animal, But Kristen lists in a lot
of public figures. Yeah, it's like you're doing it like
in private.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Okay, no, no, But if there was somebody who looked
like Miles Garrett or looked like Bobby Ashley, lash sorry,
and they and they walk by, you may not because
they're not as famous. You may not yell take my panties,
but you would at least look and go like that's hot.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I would say so Lashly and Garrett are only attractive
because they're famous.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I think I just see them more.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Well, of course you see them more. Jimmy the Bedridden
Jew isn't on TV every week?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Can you see wrestle for the uh. I would say,
like your average Joe that you see walking down the street,
they're good looking, but I wouldn't ever say because they're
not my four guys, five guys.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Love, no, no, but forget, forget, forget that they're not
one of your five guys. Right, but Miles Garrett is, oh, yeah,
so you love Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
If there was a Miles Garrett look alike where we
had a debate is that or is that not Miles Garrett?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You would still find that guy attractive.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, and you would still you may not yell at
him to take your panties, but you would still what
did the guy go with?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Ogle him? Yeah? I guess so, yeah, thank you. That's
called honesty. By the way, great acting job there, Elliott.
What did the guy go with? In the letter?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Because as al Toyedo pointed out, this was the one
time Elliott hasn't stumbled over a story. It's almost like
he knew its contents. People are coming advice. I know
we haven't gotten there yet.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh what did they say? Billy says, wear sunglasses?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The no, no, But you know what, like, here's the problem.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Here's the problem. If you agree with the guy, if
you go like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
If you see somebody with a nice ass and they're
wearing like like yoga pants, are like those athletic pants
or what is the what are the other ones? Like?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah? Or Lulu Lemon or something.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
If you think you're not gonna look, I went to
doctor Nunziat.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
He probably does not want to be a part of
the story. Just don't use my name. Oh you know what,
you can use name with Held.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I went to name with Held's office when I no
when I have my broken ankle, and I.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Would see Elliott, but it could have been another doctor's office.
Doesn't have to be the one you went to for that.
Oh my dentist. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Every time I went to the denist for for them
to look at my broken tooth, the same woman was
there around the same time. And she and again I'm
just being polite, she wore a pair of lue lose that.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I mean, honest, she should have been a model in
the magazine. What's so? What big deal? What's wrong with that?
Speaker 3 (11:09):
I'm waiting to hear what the response is.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh. I looked yes and thought, wow, that is a
nice ass. I wish people would ogle me that OGL
just sounds awful? Does it sounds like? No, that's what
the guy went with to I continue to ogle women. Well,
what do you want him to say? Stare at address
(11:33):
with my eyes, stare at in manner? The ogle to
me isn't a bad word. Why is ogle a bad word?
Why is that a bat? Diane?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Because so it sound it sounds like you're being a
creep What what would sound less creepy?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Glancing? Well, that obviously is not a glance dot com
says lear at. Lear's bad gawk at or pervone? I
got my perv on? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
So but so there is no positive spin on ogl Now,
so what is the What is the opposite of ogle?
If if to look at something perverted is to ogle it? Yeah,
to look at something positively?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
What is that? Covet? What it sounds like you're coveting?
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I am the opposite of ogel. Wouldn't it be like
not to poke your eyes out and not see it?
That wasn't me? Can I say that wasn't mean? No? Nope,
nor I. If you're not watching a channel, what you
have to guess?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I've already this morning been described as Chris collins Worth
looking again twenty five years younger than him.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
No, it would be to not look No, I know,
but to look at something with beauty and wonder what
is that called? If looking at something with perv is
to ogel, what is it to?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Antonyms for ogel are ignore, look away, or neglect.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
No, well, I don't want to look away. I'm drawn.
I'm a red blooded male. What am I supposed to
that gaze? I agree?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Because two lovers gaze into each other's eyes.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
No, the male gaze these days, Diane, that's immediately what
I think of and as meat gaze.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
No, And as.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
A as a feminist, I don't want to ever be
associated with the male gaze.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What is the male gaze?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Whether Diana and I are two lovers gazing into each
other's eyes?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Now, the male gaze is how women are depicted in
different meats.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh God, I can't win. Jesus Christ seems unfair. I'm
a red blood. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for you. Well,
how am I supposed to look at you like? How
am I supposed to in a healthy way? Objectifying? Come on? Yeah? No,
look at Christen? O.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
God, Christen's beyond objectifying and she is sexualizing.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Ain't been wrong with that. Don't worry. Her husband knows.
You can say the like a lady is a nice
looking lady. That's not bad. I agree. I agree with
you one hundred percent. But if you do, there wasn't
the question.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, but if you do, if I if I said,
if we were, if we were all walking down the hall,
so it's not just Tyler and I, but if we
were all walking down the hall, and I said, oh
my god, look at her.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Ask Jesus Christ, you can't say that. No, oh my god,
you just yelled take my panties because it's them. Yes,
And I'm saying the same thing. How is that? How
is that different? Doctor Sanchez says, Oh, doctor dirty admire
I like that. I like that. I'm admiring her. Can no,
(15:26):
not better. It's a double standard. Yes, I don't know
if it's a double standard in this case it is.
I can't. I could not say that walking down the hall.
(15:47):
I think it. But Christ, also, by the way, everybody
everybody thinks. Everybody thinks. I was caught up at a
sporting event. It was in a speed walking competition heading
down the hall, and I assumed there was maybe yoga, no, no,
but what do you do when you doing nothing?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Now, I will tell you this. The person does say that,
clearly people are going to look at things they find attractive.
I think everybody would agree with that. They think the
problem is crossing that line.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
I have found the column. Yes, since you read your letter,
may I read the advice?
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Go ahead, come a wet blanket, dear name withheld.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
It's clear that you've sometimes looked at women in a
way that made them feel uncomfortable. Glancing at someone in
a public place is always permissible. There's often a fleeting
moment of mutual acknowledgment, perhaps a slight nod or smile.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Can I say this real quick?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Have I ever, to anybody's knowledge in this room stared
at somebody until they felt uncomfortable?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Who?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
I've just seen you do it, and I'm assuming that
they are. I am good. I am good and not
getting caught stop. Okay, that's billy.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
This momentary connection is part of how we experience our
shared social world.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Thank you, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
If you find the person attractive, your glance may well
linger involuntarily for a moment, but prolonging that moment further
it can cross a line. We can't control our initial
notice of others. That's true, we can control our subsequent
subsequent choices. I suspect your quick glances aren't so quick
(17:57):
in public settings, Elliott. It's generally intrusive to display sexual interest.
What was the guy doing in the Key West story
dusting his hips back and forth? That it may sometimes
be welcome doesn't change the situation. Yes, a brief friendly
glance that produces a smile and a direct reciprocating look
(18:19):
can mean you're being invited to maintain eye contact. But
if there's any doubt the unease caused by leering is
bad enough that you should err on the side of
averting your gaze. But somebody just set off the Richie
scale in your case name withheld there normally should be doubt.
(18:45):
Being aware of whatever shortcomings we have in the skills
of everyday life can guide us toward better practices. Just
as people who know they have a poor sense of
direction learned to check maps more often. Someone who's ruggles
to read social signals around looking would do well by
being reserved and not risk making others uncomfortable. It's a
(19:09):
matter of taking the trouble to do what for you
doesn't come naturally and adopting habits that respect everyone's dignity.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Counterpoint, I am a red blooded male
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