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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ashley. Let me ask you this, you are you have claustrophobia?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I do, like legit, like legit if it's what was
that movie that came out a couple of years ago,
like with the Underground under the Ocean Tunnel type things
like I couldn't even watch the previews for that. It
freaked me out.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh no kidding. So you you have it? You have it?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
But good yeah, I have it, Like can't even get
under the sheets to like scare somebody, like if you're
playing hide and seek with my kids, can't even do that.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
How long have you had it?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I feel like it probably happened like early teenage years
and then it's got progressively worse.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Did it start out of anything specific? Like was there
was there an instant or a moment where like maybe
you felt trapped?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Not that I recall. I think I just became like
more aware of my surroundings.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Okay, that's fine question for you. What do you? What
do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
You ever take elevators?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I do, but if they slow down, then I like
if my husband's with me, like I grab.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
His arm and when you say you when you say
you do what if you're by yourself?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
I have to like take a mental break and like
count to.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Ten before you get on the element.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I don't Yeah, I can get on the other aviator. Fine,
It's just like it's flowing down and I feel like
it's not going to open.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Up if the elevator is crowded, does it make it worse?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
If it's crowded and I'm by myself, I will not
get on.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Oh okay, yeah, see, I guess that would make sense
to me. Is there is there anything else? Like? It
sounds like if you're claustrophobic, it sounds like it could
be somewhat debilitating.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I feel like it could be, uh, if it got
that far. I don't how do I word this. I
don't know if I have it to that extent where
I wouldn't like go and do something other than obviously
like getting on of it or something like that. But
I think mine's more of like I'm not going to
put myself in that situation.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I got you, I got you all right, Very good,
very good. I appreciate it, Thank you, Thank you. Line one,
Hi Elliott the morning. Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's this.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I got you? Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
What is your name?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
My name is Stephanie.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Hi, Stephanie, you're claustrophobic.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
Oh yes, I got stuck in an elevator of one time.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And is that? What is that? What kind of started
your being claustrophoned?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:47):
No, no, I think I've always kind of had it
from a young child.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
But when we were when.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
I was in college, I was in Arlington and we
went into an elevator with some alcohol and we got
stuck and I passed out hyperventilated.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
All of my friends thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So getting stuck in the elevator kicked in your claustrophobia
to the point where.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You passed out. Will you do you?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
How are you with elevators?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I won't take them at all.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
At all.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I will take the stairs.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
When is the last time, as an adult you rode
the elevator?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Oh? I can't even tell you. My parents live on
the sixth floor of a condo in Florida. Take the
stairs every single time.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Shut up? Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I am very serious.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
If you stay at a hotel, do you tell them
like first or second floor only?
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Now I'll just take the stairs.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Oh, so you could be up. It doesn't matter. What's
the most you've climbed.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Oh, I'm going to twelve.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
And you can't just.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Get in an elevator.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
No, Like, I have a physical reaction.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
My heart starts beating really fast. I can't really breathe
all those things.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But yet you see people getting in and out of
elevators NonStop.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Yes, but elevators break.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Elliott, Well, everything breaks.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean it's a machine, and I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Doing that again. How long survive?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
How long were you stuck in the elevator?
Speaker 6 (04:28):
So like five hours?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It was probably twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Oh, twenty minutes. Get out of here. Hell, Diane was
stuck in the elevator for twenty minutes. No, No, and
the reason why no? Like, my kid got stuck in
an elevator for ninety minutes, right, and it seemed like
or ever. But he's still right elevator.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, he still gets in the elevator.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You get for him.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Not everybody has that reaction.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Do you know who.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
David Fosh I do you know who David's Foster is?
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I've heard the name.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
So, David Foster was a very very famous composer.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
He doesn't really do as much as.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
He used to. He does David Foster, Yes, he did
the Saint Almost Fire theme. He worked with like he
worked with everybody. He worked with Celine Dion, he worked
with Whitney Houston Famous.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yes he's married.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
He's married to is it Katherine McPhee. Yeah, he's married
to her. Oh, yes, I know that right there, Thank you.
He wears ugs. He does wear ugs. He he has
a Broadway show that's opened that is either opening or
getting ready to open, or whatever the case is. But
he also is very, very very claustrophobic. And he says,
(05:44):
and this is why I was asking as an adult,
he has only been in an elevator five times in
his adult life, isn't he in his seventy ye Yes,
he's much older than his Yeah, five times, and three
of those times. Three of those times was for surgery,
and he was medicated, like he was at a hospital.
(06:07):
He was in a hospital having surgery and was medicated
and was able to make the elevator ride. And then
once he tells a braggy story about how he was
at a party and he was at Pavarotti's house or apartment,
which was on the twentieth floor, and they had all
been drinking wine and Pavarotti took him out to the
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elevator and then like stood it or sat in the
elevator with him and saying, ave Maria in his ear
until they got to the box. That's a great story.
It's an awesome story, but it's very bragg adocious. Well,
you said they who else.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Was I think I would need elevator?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think it was like Selene was there?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, like it Waslton, Yeah, like it was a bunch
of famous, famous people and it was time to leave it.
He was like, I can't take the elevator, and Pavarotti
was like, oh, come, I'll sing it too.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
But they asked him.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
They asked him though, and this is why I asked you,
what's the most you've climbed? And so he said, he said,
I've taken I've climbed millions of flights of stairs over
the course of my lifetime.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Oh stop it, I have, and you.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Know what, it's good exercise. I look at it like
that too.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
So they were asking him, what is the most that
you've climbed? Now, ma'am, I know you said twelve.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
David Foster says there's a place in Singapore called Maria
Marina Bay Sands. We were staying there while shooting Asia's
Got Talent.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
The pool was on the roof from time to time.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
If I wanted to go to the pool, I would
have to walk up the sixty five flights of stairs
to go to the pool.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
Oh wow, he has a baby too, right or a
young child.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, he's got an infant.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well not anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The kid's older.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
I hope she's like we see in a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, he walked sixty five flights of stairs to go
to the pool.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
So I get it.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It is real. I don't know if you understand it
is real fear, But.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Can't you.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
Is this is the only place that shows up in his life.
The because you said he's not a friend of elevators.
He's claustrophobic. That's that's what he says. He says, I
am claustrophobic. He says, I try to go to They
talk about I tried to go to the gym.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
They were asking him about exercise, and he was like,
I try to go to the gym three times a week. Also,
I literally never take an elevator. It's claustrophobia. I've been
in an elevator five times in my adult life. Three
of those were for surgeries in the hospital and one
was with Pava. Once was with Luciano Pavarotti on the
twentieth floor of his place in New York. I was
(08:52):
working with him in Celine Dionne on a duet. But
of all right, very good, thank you, ma'am, thank you,
sixty five to go to the pool. God, I don't
think I could be claustrophobic.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
Well, nobody chooses that, but Diane, you know how his
advice usually goes, what's that?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Just don't be it? Yeah, no, no, but like, what
did they call that where you have to do there?
What did they call that where you have to face
your fears? Exposure therapy? Yeah, you'd have for elevators, you'd
have to do.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
That, or you'd just never go to a pool.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
No, no, no, like I'm not in Singapore.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
No no.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I understand if if you were claustrophobic, and it was
like I can't go to I can't go to a
crowded stadium, or I can't I can't walk down like
a real I can't go to Bourbon Street.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I get that. I get that.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
You gotta take an elevator every day you'll give someone
a pass on a crowd.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Because the thing I recall it being different. No, No,
but you can't.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You're in.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You're not, You're not. You're not on a crowded street
every single day. No, No, I'm being serious.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
But it can It doesn't have to be Bourbon Street.
It can be twenty people and that's a crowd, and
that that gets people.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Know. So you think that I can't be on a
crowd on Rockville Pike because there's twenty people, You're crazy.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I don't know. I don't have that affliction.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You You could be on Rockville Pike crowd.
Speaker 7 (10:24):
But but a crowd to different people means different things.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
No, crowd is that's not true.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
There's the empathy.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
No, No, crowd is a crowd.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
You want not to butt Bourbon Street. It's not like
that for everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You're gonna see a crowd on Friday night.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
There are people who couldn't walk the strip.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I understand that. But you gotta be able to take
an elevator like no, no, But you could say I'm
not gonna go to Vegas on a Friday night of
the opening weekend of the tournament. The busiest weekend in
Vegas that exists. You can have wait that you can't
avoid using an elevator.
Speaker 8 (11:03):
Don't you feel like David Foster could afford exposure therapy?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (11:06):
Like, I'm sure he's talked to some sort of professional
therapist or a psychologist or help that could maybe he
thinks cure this for him, and it hasn't worked out
for him.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
But it seems like an unreasonable.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I don't know, but I don't mean it to come
off that way like fear is irrational.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I get it.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
If he didn't tell the sixty five flight story, would
you let it go?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
No? Does that number? Well, that number saw there you
so much?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Well, don't go to the pool stupid?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Like can you even imagine?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
You know what? He's not afraid of butterflies?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
The Okay, but I go out?
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Oh wait, now that's personal.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, I go outside.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Okay, but you wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
But but I don't go to I don't go to
butterfly farms. I went to the one at Harris Ginter Lewis.
Lewis say, I was so.
Speaker 7 (12:00):
What if you had to walk through a room full
of butterflies to get somewhere?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Ah, it's a Lewis Teeter.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I do it.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I do it.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
But you'd be scared. Yes, not to death, but I would.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I'd be scared.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
You'd be terrified.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I wouldn't exhibit Yes, I would be scared. I would
be scared because.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
You're mocking somebody who's afraid of an elevator or a crowd.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
But but this is me, though, But you're missing the point.
Going to Lewis ginter is Bourbon Street. Walking through a
room full of butterflies is the Vegas Strip.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
That's not every day I walk outside.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I am outside out of three hundred and sixty five
days in a year. I promise you I'm outside three
hundred and sixty of them. There's butterflies, and I live.
Then I go outside.
Speaker 8 (12:54):
Well, due just claim though a couple of weeks ago,
that you don't see any butterflies in Arlington along with
as is yours is your style but wild.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
But that's Diane saying people can't be on Rockville Pike
because there's twenty people listen.
Speaker 8 (13:06):
I don't know why I'm being so hard on you.
I will be very honest in this moment and tell
you my son has some sort of fear of elevators,
and of all my kids issues, it is the one
I've been least accommodating about.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
No, because you got to get him on there. He's
going to do what do you do?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
You're in elevators multiple times a week. I'm in an
elevator every day, every day.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah you think I want to sho you think I
want to show that?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Do you think it was a butterfly?
Speaker 5 (13:38):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I thought there was a bug in here.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
The Do you think I want to schlep up all
these flights of stairs?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I'd probably be good. It's good for me.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
No. No, that that's like the person who's allergic to
like bacon, going, well, I don't he bacon is good
for me. That missed the mark. But you got the point. Yeah, yeah,
it's good for you. Okay, but you'd rather take an elevator.
You don't see everybody get off the elevator and look
at him with envy. Of course, when my kid got stuck,
there was a little while where he was hesitant of elevators.
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But I get on.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
But again, that's not a story that David Foster's telling.
That there was a long no weight because they were trapped. No,
he's claustrophobic. Yes, I don't think my son is claustrophobic.
I've seen him under a sheet. By the way that
I've never heard that example, that you can't even go
under your bed sheets.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, that's too high, too high.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Yeah, but I mean that's a extreme.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
I think she could not if you're claustrophobic. Look who's judging,
Look who's judging.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
But I'd never heard somebody with that analogy.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Before heard, but now you're judging.
Speaker 8 (14:46):
Okay, but you're already scared of your bed linens. And
then if you're scared by a sound you hear, you
can't pull them up above your head.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Well, probably not like you could. Probably.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I'm sure that woman could sleep under her bed sheets.
I don't think she's laying with it laid out, got
to stay.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, No, that's fine. My head stays out when I sleep.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But what if you hear a knock on the door.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
A knock on the door, Why am I hiding? If
I hear a knock on the door, I don't hide
under the door.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Won't Are you an under the bed guy? No? I
lay there. Usually its usually lindsay making noise around that.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Where am I going line four.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Hi, Elliot in the morning, Elliot, Yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
How does that gentleman fly in an airplane?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
You know what, that's a great question.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Now, my guess is my guess, if I'm being completely honest,
David Foster has not flown commercially in a thousand years,
would be my guess. But that's a great question. He
only flies private. I mean the answer is probably yes.
But it's claustrophobia.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
Yeah, you're still in an enclosed space.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Appear in every single context.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Then you're not claustrophobic.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
That's cure.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No, that's selective claustrophobia.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
No. Again, just because you walk across the street, you're
not claustrophobic.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
But you couldn't do Bourbon Street.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
I feel like you've lost the plot. No, you've you've
almost forgotten your own argument. And Diane did say it
was rooted in empathy. But it's like you've put too
much molts around that tree and it's made the base
of it a little wet and it's wobbling.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
But I don't want I don't want to have a
fear of elevators.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Fear of elevators would be to Bill debilitating.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
You're also afraid of bees and phantom bugs.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
That's what it was, like, I don't know what floor
we're going to be on at the Cosmopolitan.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
You're always up. I bet we're in like the thirtieth
floor or something.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You want to walk up and down?
Speaker 7 (16:57):
No? No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
No no, but that that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
But I understood, like like, like do you you asked
that woman?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Like?
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Do you ask to be placed on the first or
second floor?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Mike Berbiglia? That isn't that was so different? What? No, no, nope,
for different reason. Walking yes, oh gone out windows? Yeah,
but I didn't get to finish because he's afraid he's
going to throw himself out the window again. So he
would always stay on the first or second floor. If
you have a fear of elevators, do you have to stay?
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Say I have to be on the first or second floor?
How many stories is the Cosmopolitan?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Look at it? It's probably fifty stories?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Is that a skill of yours? You can eyeball a
picture and tell me.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I can tell you it's more than five seventy. How
many stories is the Cosmopolitan?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Does she have it? Uh?
Speaker 7 (17:50):
It is two fifty two story oh twenty two.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, you know what. I can't eyeball it. I didn't
realize it was two different now either.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh my god, Jesus Christ, I.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
Think, think of the distance. If we have to meet
in one of our rooms, we're not in the same tower.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Hold on, I'll meet you guys at kristen See in
an hour.
Speaker 8 (18:14):
Yeah, I'm sorry, one hundred and four flights.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Keep in mind, you only need an hour.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Half of them are down, so you're.
Speaker 8 (18:26):
Gonna throw yourself down the steps. I know Diane can
do that. It's very easy to go downstairs. Going upstairs
is harder.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
But I could climb exertion, I could fly, climb, I
could climb. There's the damn b again. I could climb
a fly fifty flights of stairs in an hour. No, no, no,
but it's Kristen's room. It's in the other tower.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Yeah, you gotta go down and then go up.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
So I have to go down fifty flights of stairs
and then up fifty flights of stairs in an hour. Yeah, gladly, gladly, gladly,
you're welcoming you.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
No, but I could do it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I do an hour in an hour, Yes, Elliott, Yes,
Elliott how many? That's so what you guys do in
Vegas time? Elliott? Climbing stairs really fun? Well, so much
for that shot ski we were gonna do. I don't
(19:23):
know if you could.
Speaker 8 (19:24):
Yeah, and I know you've lost twenty pounds. Yea, you've
also plant toed. I could easily. Well no, I don't
want to say easily, but I could do it. What
are you looking up?
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I just wanted to see what it would say for
he long to walk down fifty flights of stairs. If
you're taking your time, it could be twenty five minutes
or longer.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Don't walk down?
Speaker 7 (19:47):
That was his easy average average. If you walk in
moderate minutes, this is going down. If you walk at
a moderate pace, fifteen to twenty minutes.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Fifteen minutes down, that's down, and then forty to go up?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Is it the wind did?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yes? Can we get in touch with David Foster? I
want to know how long it takes him to climb
fifty flights of stairs? Would you say he did sixty five? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:12):
But that was to go to a pool, a rooftop
pool in Singapore.
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Well, what do we need to have in Christen's room
to get you to attract you.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
To I don't know, anything doesn't matter. How do I?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Where's David Foster? David?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Call me? Probably getting that Broadway show ready?
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Wouldn't it be funny if you called h I heard
you were looking for me?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Where am I going? Well?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, where's one of our jackasses who has to climb stairs?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
What? Why would you characterize him that way?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
They our listeners?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Hi, yea in the morning. Hey, Hey, who's this.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Jeremy?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Are you claustrophobic? Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I am?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
What is the the can you write elevators? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I can get in elevators.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
That's not a problem.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
What really bothered me?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I didn't really know until I got an MRI.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I oh, you know what a lot of people, a
lot of people have have have claustrophobia around MRIs. Can
I ask you this though? Is is the is the
dividing line? Like for example, if you if you if
you take an MRI versus getting in an elevator is
an MRI because you can't move?
Speaker 7 (21:33):
Like is that have to remain still?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Like the sheet thing makes sense?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
No, not necessarily because you you have to stay still,
but like you're in there right, Like you really can't
move in an elevator. You can move. You're still in
an enclosed space, but you can move. So is that
is that kind of where that dividing line is? Yeah?
I think so, because in the MRI, I I kind
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of felt trapped, you know, like I couldn't get out,
and I actually I'm a stopped it a couple of
times because I started sweating real bad, and I wondered, like,
if you go back to the girl that couldn't be
on the elevator, I wish she'd call back, that couldn't
be on the elevator.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Hey, thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I wonder if the sheets thing is because you feel enveloped. Yeah,
it's gotta be, because what what fear do you have
of being in a sheet? Fart hard it blows off
of you. You're gonna be doing that? As to climb
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tower fifty story towers.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
My left arms? Now is that a problem?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Good question? Can I smoke?
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Someone did wonder if we were allowing for smoke breaks
and if that counted towards your total tie.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Oh that's like when I played video game for eight days,
but I got a pee break every fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Where am I going?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Line five is David Foster called hi, elliot of the morning.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Hi is this me?
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Who's this?
Speaker 5 (23:09):
My name is Cindy. I am very, very claustrophobic. And
if you get in an elevator with me, you're taking
my oxygen and it's not going to be good for you.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Wait, so can you You can't take an elevator.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
The last time I took an elevator, it stopped in
between floors and I almost jumped out.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I get bad. Okay, that's unsafe. That's unsafe. How long
How long has that? How long has it been since
you've taken an elevator ride?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Probably a month ago?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh okay, so somewhat somewhat recently. What what can't you do?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I can't sit in the backseat of a car. And
when when things happen and I get that fight or flight,
my clothes have got to come off. My pants got
to come off. Everything's too tight.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Oh thank god, thank Let me bear hug get that and.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I will tell you. It started when I was a
child and my brother zipped me up in a sleeping bag.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Oh wow, wow, I like that. You're able to trace
it back.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
Yeah, And they didn't have the safety zippers back when
I was young, it was you could only zip it
out differ from outside.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Right, Hey, so have you have you taken steps instead
of elevators before because of this?
Speaker 5 (24:31):
What's because the fear is overwhelming? It's that's the two
to go up one hundred flight of steps.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
You ain't climbed a hundred flight stairs.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
You've not climbed a hundred flight of stairs yet?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
No, but I would the No, you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
How long does that take?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I would have you done fifty.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
No, I've done thirty.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
How long did that take? Like thirty minutes?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yeah, it's totally worth it in the face that fear.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Fight or flight. Her voice is kind of quivering. Are
you okay?
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Yeah, just talking about it. I can feel it coming up.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Take your pants off.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
I'm driving, I hope not, but I have had to
pull over in the car out and just walk around
my car for a minute just to settle down. Absolutely,
it really affects my life.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Even while you were driving or because I know you
said like in the back seat you struggle with it,
but even while driving at times you've had to get
out and yeah, just kind of walk around.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Wow, that's something, isn't it?
Speaker 5 (25:34):
If my pants are too dight or my shirt is
too tight. Yeah, I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Have you ever thought about exposure therapy.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
I wouldn't do that. Somebody would die.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Oh okay, all right, all right, all right, very good.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I would rather be highly medicated than to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
No, way, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
All right, very good, Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.
Speaker 8 (25:56):
Let me ask you this, Elliott, because you did for
a moment seem turned on by the losing of the pants.
But and I don't even know why I'm asking, because
I know the answer. All of us know the answer.
Is it a deal breaker, even if it's your soulmate?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Oh, it depends, It depends, And I or you.
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Would just spend your life, you taking the elevator and
Jackie having to walk stairs.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
If I could get away with that.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But it's not just showing itself in her case with
the elevator. Oh, I thought you meant just elevator. No, no, no,
I'm talking about.
Speaker 8 (26:34):
Her probably, yeah, probably, be honest.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, No, it is that. That would be hard.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
That would be hard because they I mean, you can't
fly anywhere, you can't drive anywhere without it hung over,
God forbid, in the middle of the night. I rolled
over my arm hooked under that blanket and pulled up
over her head, screaming like the house is on fire,
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all thanks to their silly brother.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Who zipped her up inside a sleeping
Speaker 8 (27:11):
Bag, which is the first attempt at exposure therapy you'd
probably conduct.