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November 3, 2025 17 mins
The bestselling author recaps his trip to Toronto for Game 6 and 7 of the World Series.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dude, you went to what may be the greatest World
Series game of all time.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
The thing that was so fun about it is that
we've waited three years like thinking, oh man, you know,
I hope we get a good game, and we got
like the most. Let me just tell you how even
crazier the game was than what you saw on TV.
Is that the two guys sitting next to me on
my left, they come and sit down and they're just

(00:26):
looking like kind of like bros. They got like the
puffer vests, and I'm just like, okay, they got money,
Like they just smell of money, you know, right, And
I'm like and then they start like whispering to me
like hey, what do you get this? This? This? And I
know my baseball, but like I'm like, this guy knows
a lot about baseball, like a crazy amount. And then

(00:48):
one of a pitch goes wrong and the other guy
smacks the chair like you would think it was like
his you know, his best friend that was the pitcher.
And then we find out I'm like, what is the story.
My son is like these guys are gamblers. They got
millions of dollars on this game, and they're professional gamblers.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
That's where my head. That's immediately where Michael went.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Which is a good bet, except it was even better
than gamblers. They were and I can't say who they
told me not to say anything, but two of the pitchers,
they were their agents. And let's just say that one
of the pitches cost that guy millions of dollars. And
I was like, and I'm like, this game just got

(01:31):
so much more high stage. I said to my son,
I say, how many people in this stadium right now
would take a year off their life to have the
Blue Jays win? And my son says, I would have
for Michigan. I'm like, and he says, not for this game.
I'm like, I hope it's not for this game. You
start a room for the Blue Jays like a week ago.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
But you know what's amazing is it was, And like
this is I get so mad. I get so mad,
Brad when people will go, like, my favorite sport is
hockeynumber two right up there with it is baseball, and
then it drops off to the rest.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I love baseball, and I will tell everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Baseball is one of the most exciting sports. Everybody's like, no,
it's slow and it's boring.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Game seven.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
This may have been the best world series. I mean,
forget that it goes seven games, right, but this may
be the best world series in I can't even I
can't even remember how long, and the fact that Game
seven goes eleven innings and ends the way that it did,
it was. It was so intense. Every pitch was so intense.

(02:41):
It was amazing to watch. I can't, like I said,
I can't imagine being at Rogers and seeing that game
in person. I can't imagine what the tension was inside
that stadium.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
The thing that was to me, my favorite part is
there were when when it cleared out. We knew it
at the time. There were no Dodgers fans there, right,
And my buddy was like one of them. He's like,
I think our section has a lot of Dodge fans. Like, no,
they don't like we have. We were sitting two rows
behind and next to all the players' wives. Okay, And

(03:15):
when I say, you could hear the ten wives that
were there cheer and basically almost no one else. So
when the home runs happened, you heard like a dozen
people cheer and when and that means that when the
Bougays were up, which where they were up for nine
innings of the game. The place was explosive, right, I

(03:35):
mean it was so crazy that it was like an earthquake.
And then you know, to be in the ninth inning,
you are two outs away from winning, and when that
home run went, it was like a knife through the place.
It was so emotional. And the thing that is the
wildest is that Canadians are so much nicer than we are,

(03:56):
right like Canadians when they lost, even in the loss,
in the moment that the loss, I was like, oh, man,
so sorry to my buddy. And he's like, you know what,
the team just gave us such a great year. I
can't ask for more than that. And I looked at
my son and I said, son, is that how do
you feel? He's like, absolutely not. You know, He's just
like in America, we do not do that. Like we
are just like are you kidding? And they are so thankful.

(04:18):
On the plane ride home, they're like, yeah, they just
gave us such a good year, so much entertainment. I'm like,
you're so nicer than we are.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh my god, Bob, if if my team lost bottom
of the eleventh and Game seven, I'd be like, got
to fire the manager clearly doesn't know what he's doing. Oh.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I took my son to a to a Canadian Football
League game a few years ago and we're watching the
game and we're sitting and you know, we were in
I think it was in Toronto and maybe with Vancouver Vancouver,
and we're watching this game and we'd never been to
a Canadian football game and there's a moment where we
look at the school board and the and then the
other team has an extra point that we don't know

(04:53):
where it came from, and we're like, where'd they get
that point from? When was it a war? We missed it?
So I say to the guy next to me, like,
where's the point? Like, well, there's this rule if like
you don't get out of the end zone or they
stopped you before that, they award an extra point. I'm like, oh,
thank you for the rule clarification. And then whatever. Half
the game goes by and the art you know, the
Canadian team scores and they don't go for two, which

(05:15):
would have tied up the game. And I say to
the guy next to me, why didn't you go for
two there to tie up the game? And the guy goes, well,
you know, the coach knows what he's doing, so you know,
we trust him. And I'm like, I've been here for
two hours and i feel like I know more than
this coach. Like I'm mad on behalf of all Canadians.
I'm like, can you imagine sports radio and Canada. They're like,

(05:36):
what'd you think of the game today? And they're like, ah,
we just trust the coach. He knows what he's doing.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
I'm like, no way, Hey, so Brad, let me ask
this before I get back to the game. Is is
the in in? I don't know when did you? When
did you end up leaving Toronto?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I got I was on my this is crazy,
So this is this is how bad you want it.
My son's flight gets canceled on the way in from
New York on Thursday, and he's like, I can't miss this.
He's like, if I fly on Friday, I potentially missed
the game if the flight's delayed. So he takes a
bus ride from Port Authority in New York City, an

(06:15):
eleven hour bus ride from eight pm, arriving in Toronto
seven am because he's like, I can't miss this. Okay,
my ride home. I'm on the plane yesterday I get
home yesterday. I was supposed to live at eight am.
We got out twice. They brought us back two times.
The second time they brought us back, We're about to
take off on the runway and they say we have

(06:35):
to have paramedics come on the plane because one of
the flight attendants is just went down. And I'm like what.
And so we had this like ridiculous hour delay coming back.
But I got back late last night.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Hey, so was the so on Sunday, because obviously Game
seven was on Saturday. On Sunday had the story of
John Baines and his son Matthew made it around Toronto.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I don't know story. I was flying all day.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
So John Baynes is he's a father, Like I forget
how old he is.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
It's in here.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
He's sixty one and he brings his kid to the game.
They're Blue Jays fans, right, They're in Toronto, and dad,
the sixty one year old John. He caught Miguel Rojas's
home run in the ninth inning. Now, let me give
you a little background on John. John went to the

(07:30):
game and knew that he was sitting in the outfield.
He brought a dummy baseball with him and shoved it
in his pocket, caught the home run ball that Rojas
h hit and kept it in his glove. While everybody's
going like, not nuts because it was obviously it's the
bottom of the ninth and the guy just tied the
game up or the ninth idn't rather excuse me, and

(07:51):
he just tied.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
The game up, and he said it was dead quiet.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
He reaches into his pocket, he pulls out the dummy ball,
throws it back onto the field, but he held on
to the Rojas home run ball, and you're like, Okay,
I get it. That's pretty smart. Fast forward now to
the eleventh inning. Will Smith hits the home run that
ends it. John Bayn's son, Matthew caught that ball. Father

(08:20):
and swear to god, father and son caught both home
run balls, the two biggest home run balls of the night.
Both father and son caught one each. It's unbelievable, that's unread.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I love that story. I have you ever tried to
catch a Have you ever come close to catching a
foul ball in the baseball game.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
I've caught one that bounced and bounced around, But I
by the way.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm talking about like a fair catch. It is so hard,
You're it is so hard. That is an I love
that story. And did they are they selling it? Are
they giving it back? What they are making the trade?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, they didn't say anything yet. The last I saw
was I just I was like, I give the dad credit.
He brought a dummy baseball to the game.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
By the way, that guy is like a sorcerer, right,
He's like have I mean, it's one thing if you
bring a dummy ball. But I'm like, okay, I'm gonna
do this right. And I saw I'm like I said
to Joonas, I'm like, oh, he threw the ball back.
And I was like, that's, you know, crazy fan, because
that's a that's a pretty valuable ball. Needless to say,
that's why I threw it back. But I love that

(09:27):
He's like, nope, I'm throwing it back to the crowd
as something to do for But I get the benefit
of this. I mean, that guy is like a mack
Velly guy.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
The wait, hold on, Tyler just found something, Baines.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I'm assuming this is the dad joke that he considered
offers before that happens.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
One million dollars.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
For the Rojas ball one point five million for the
smith Ball. But deep down here you go this how
you know they're in Canada. Deep down he knows the
value isn't monetary. But the memories he just shared with
his son's.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Vomit, that's what that's. Americans say, we want to say,
we're gonna discuss about the memories. You know, we'll take that.
I mean, Americans would be like, this is on like
Southby's right now on the auction side before they leave
the stadium. We've listed it and then we put like
you know, scuff marks to prove it, and half people
say it's fake, like we forget it. Canadians are like, well,

(10:21):
I'm just happy you've got to see the game with
your son, and I want I'm not joking when I
was when I was on the plane when the plane
was delayed, you know the jetway you walked down in
Canada when the plane was delayed. They're like, we don't
want you to like be cooped up on the plane,
so we're going to close the door to the airport part.

(10:41):
But you guys can all on the jetway just hang
out there and run and like, you know, play around.
Anyone who was a dog with the dog wrone. I
have a video of a dog Grene. And I said
to the flight attend and I said, you are so
much nicer than we are. And she says, you know,
we always talk about it as the flight attends the
difference between Canadians and Americans. And I said, I know
what the difference is.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
You're nice.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
He's laughing and I'm like, and I said, no, no,
you I can say that about us like we would never.
First of all, we would sue everyone anyone that tripped
on that thing. We would sue anybody someone was going
to hit the thing that retracts the whole thing as
a joke. We'd sue them like. We would never ever
be like, oh, for you're comfort and enjoy me, We're
gonna let you just use the jetway for fun.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Hey, how long did you at the Hockey Hall of Fame?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I was sending you pictures from the Hockey Hall of Fame.
I don't know if you have. I fear if you've
been there, because you and I were texting my son
and I went to the Hockey Hall of Fame and
and I texted my buddy Bill Zito, who's the you know,
obviously from the Panthers, and he's like, you want me
to make a call for the red carpet field. I'm like, no, no, no,
because what we were doing when he called me is

(11:45):
they have a thing where you can play goalie and
they shoot pucks at your head and obviously they're nerve
ones and they give you all the gear and you
have to stop it, and there's like a video, so
it's like a you know, an EA spoy like hockey thing, right,
And I will tell you no one accidentally stopped more
hockey pucks than me, Like I was stopping it with

(12:07):
my face, my elbow and every time. And by the way,
when I did stop it and it was accidental, I
turned to my son and was like you see that,
and he's like, you didn't even try for that, like
you that was so obviously not your athletic skill and
just an accident. It's so hard.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
By the way, the.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Hockey Hall of Fame is one of the greatest places
that's on planet Earth.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's unbelievable in there.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
And don't casually just drop my friend Bill Zito, please.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Listen, trust me. I love the fact that he's like,
we're gonna call it the red car and I'm like,
and what have them hit me in the face with
more nerve tuffs? But it was.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Now Brett, let me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Let me ask you this because you like you started
by saying, you're a pretty big baseball guy, don't you agree?
This series may be one of the best world series
that's played out.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Oh, this is why it's the greatest. Like, so, the
way that baseball is the most interesting to me is
not you know, people think it's slow, think like, oh,
it's because they're looking for home runs and they're like, oh,
I don't see a home run, and you know, if
there's no home run, it must be boring. It's like
every pitch it's a chess match, right, and every pitch
that's thrown at the pitcher saying what does this batter
think I'm gonna throw it? And the batter's going what do

(13:20):
I think this guy is going to actually throw at me?
And there's this chess match going on, and you could
feel in this series the chess match in real time.
And the thing that was so great about it is
everyone was playing at the highest level. You were watching
like every strategic move, pulling this guy so you can
put the pinch runner in, trying to score, trying to
bunch here because you know that this guy's gonna come

(13:40):
next to your botty to come up. You can see
and every move had a counter move and you could
see it happening, and no one was making the wrong
moves right, And so you know, last year it was
like done in five. You knew who was gonna win.
Dodgers were going to slaughter them. Year before. You knew
that Texas was gonna you know, it was Arizona. No
offense to him. They just didn't have a shot. Knew
it was coming this one. And the fact that went

(14:03):
to like almost twenty innings. You know, my son told
me in that game they were running out of baseballs.
They had three hundred I think he said three hundred
and six hundred baseballs per game, and they were running
out because the game was going so long.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's amazing, and they were.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Going I'm like, well, they go to like a Dick
sporting goods and break in, but like they were going
to get more baseballs. And then you're like, oh, now
the Dodgers are definitely done. They lost that game and
I was coming back to Toronto and then to come
back like that it was just a I said, it
was like two heavyweights and just slugging each other rocket
when they're not going down.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Absolutely, hey is the great most popular. I mean, obviously
Vladimir Guerrero Junior is the most popular blue Jay underneath him?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Is it? Is it Clement?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
It's Clement's who's the eight hitter?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Say again, who's the eight.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Hitter for them? I'm just blanking on his name. Is
that Clement? Yeah? Ernie Clement, Yeah, Ernie Ernie yeah, earned
dogg yes, yes, yes, Oh, he's absolutely their second favorite player,
no question. There's all these like earn dogs and the
thing is there. It's so funny. It just to tell
you what Canada does differently. You know the song, I'm
gonna forget what it is. They have the craziest I

(15:18):
couldn't even do it. Google the seventh inning stretch song
for the Toronto Blue Jays and it is like it
is like nothing you ever. I'm like, is this schoolhouse rock? Like?
What is this that they're playing? It is the most
insane like and it gets the crowd singing like we're
singing Sweet Caroline at a Red Sox game like it is,

(15:39):
but it's it's so not an American song that we
would stand for for one second. It's clearly an old
timey song, that is it.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
The song, if I'm not mistaken, is okay blue Jays?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, it's okay, okay, yeah, something like that. I don't,
I don't. I didn't even hear the word blue Jays
in it, but I guess it is. But it's just
this old I mean, it's it's like the Miami Dolph.
Do you ever have a Miami Dolphins song? Like Mammy
has a Dolphins the greatest football team. We take the
wall from Golden.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Right, which they stole from the Houston Oilers. They stole
that from the Houston.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Of course, told it's the Houston Oilers song. Of course,
the thing they and there was a point where there
was a point where they replaced it with like fins
Up or some new thing that they wanted for Jimmy Buffett,
and the crowd went bananas and was like, no, we
want that old, crappy song back. And it was clear
that like this song. The Blue Jays were like, We're
just happy to have the song. We're just happy to
be here. We just are happy to have the song.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Well, dude, I'll tell you what, I was very envious.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
As great as it was, I love knowing that I
knew somebody in the building.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was amazing for that game on Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, my buddy who is a Dodgers fan, he flew
he was coming in that day. His flight got delayed.
He left it. He left LA at eight a m.
He flies all the way to Philadelphia for the for
the thing, for the connecting flight. He's like, I'm landing
at fourth. The flight gets delayed, so they put him
on another flight to connect. So he's got I'm landing
at six. They say, sorry, air traffic issues, we can't

(17:04):
get you there. He writes to me and says, I'm out.
I'm gonna be watching this game from a Philly bar.
I flew across the country. I'm missing it by the
last leg. And then I get a text in the
first thing says we're coming. They like changed their minds.
They said they were the only Dodgers fans that got
on the flight. The other Dodgers fans on the flight
had left already, but they were just like sticking around

(17:25):
for god knows what reason. I said, I can't believe
you didn't sell your ticket, and he said, I put
it on and no one bought it. And if someone
would have bought it, he would have like come to Toronto
and sold his own ticket and not gotten in. And
since the one bought he got in and made it
by the fourth inning and got to see the whole game.
So he was amazing, the one guy who was happy
in the stadium.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
All right, Brad, I appreciate the time. Thank you, sir,
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