December 5, 2025 • 20 mins
Goochland County, another inflatable, Frank Capone, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, my name is Aaron.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am the supervisor at Guchlin Animal Shelter. Now remember
that's the that's them, the larger cat. The yeah, the
fat cap. What is its name Mittens or something like that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No, Mischief, that's it right, And it got adopted. And
then on the news they were like local radio station.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was like, just say it, just say it, you
know who it is, but they didn't want to say it.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Well, no, that's not what happened. We corrected you yesterday.
Well I'm paraphrasing.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Anyway, The Guchlin County Animal Shelter and Adoption Center made
a nice little post yesterday. We heard through the grapevine
that Elliott in the Morning wanted us to thank them,
oh my God, for helping our chunky little feeline friend
find a home.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So here is your formal shout out.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Mischief is so excited to be going home with their
new mama.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That's awesome. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It makes us sound so sad.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
The no, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh anyway, what how are you reading that in a
tone that doesn't cast a certain light on you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
They thanked us, but they go on to say, my
name is Aaron, I'm the supervisor at the Guzlin Animal Shelter.
Any chance we can name our next kitten or puppy
litter after you, guys, as a more formal thank you
my god, that's awesome. That would be great. I hate cats,
so they'll name a dog. By the way, thanks for
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a shout out. It has been fund seeing our chunky
friend make headlines. His owner passed away, and it's made
the family so happy to hear that mischief is turning
into a local celebrity. That's awesome, So very good Guzlan,
that's awesome. I'm glad we're partnering like that.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I can't believe they wrote that the No.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I thought that was very nice.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
At first a baby calf, now a kitten.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Also, can I just send a blanket? Thank you?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Who?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Because you know, everybody's getting like their Spotify wrapped and
just like just like all of their end of the
year streaming things and stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like that, every service did a wrap.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, no, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But the people that send in like how much they
listen to the show.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Thank you very nice.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, it's very very nice. It's very very nice.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now i'd like to see those numbers go up for everybody.
But that's very nice. That is very very nice.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
When you break it down, because you know, give you
the minutes and you go by day, and then how
many hours we are honest day and then just it's
it's incredible when you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Do the math.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, no, it's very nice.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
The loyalty is off the charts, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And those of you that aren't, let's get.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
There, Elliott, this is what happened with Gutchland.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I hear Elliott wants me to improve upon the
really impressible.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, no, listen, there's some that are way way up there.
That's great. I was. I was. The ones that aren't.
We could always do better. We can always do better,
always do better. But thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's very very nice. I appreciate I say that all
the time. I'm very appreciative to anybody that listens. Also, Elliott,
A siegull flew into my face while walking past Thrasher's
French Fries on the Ocean City boardwalk.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
All right, that'll happen.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Let me grab line four and then I'm gonna grab
line one. Let me start here. Hi, Ellie in the morning,
Good morning, it's cappy, Cappy, how are you good? How
are you cough once? If there's somebody laying next to you?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
No one unless you count a furry creature.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
No, but didn't you didn't you go to some some.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
She's back from the Keys?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, I know she hooked up with that guy. She
was going to an event last night. Weren't you going
to weren't you going to chase a little?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
I tried, but they're all too young.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Listen, what is that saying old enough to? Well? Whatever?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
The well?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm sorry, hey, the guy that you hooked up with
in the Keys? What happened there?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Well, I never hooked up nothing, nothing came of it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So what did you do? Like? Oh well all right,
all right, well forever alone? Any Yes, what can I
do for you? Kappy?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I have a question for Tyler? Go ahead, Tyler? Why
did you talk about your new dog you got the
other day?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You posted about a snapchat and I've never heard anything
about more about it?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Wait? Did you get a second dog?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's not a dog as in a real dog. I
was anonymously sent another inflatable.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I'm not part of that.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I'm not part of that.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
So it's not from you.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
No, God, no, no.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, god, No, that's how I know those are white drags.
It was like God, no, No.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I decided not to because after I posted, I realized
two things. One, it was killing my blood pressure readings,
so I'm doomed next week when it comes to that
follow up appointment. So I realized that the senders don't
care about my health. And two, listen to too, And
this is exactly what the second part is. It's a way,
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can I say, get off. It's a way for these
people to get off. They find joy in me talking
about me, talking about my misery. So after I posted
that picture, I was like, no, I maybe after I
put it up, I'll take another snap, but I'm not
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going to mention it on the air.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It was like, I can't. I cannot have any more
sense to me.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Why are you at a room?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I was out of room when I got the first one.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Where is it in relation to the snowman and the whore?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Great question.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's gonna go in the barnyard, so it'll go in
the animals, So we will go in the zoo.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Kathy, by the way, I'm so glad that you, uh
you called. I had no idea that Tyler had added
to the display.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I didn't add it. It's not up yet.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It's so you got to put it up.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
That's rude, exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I told you I'm a gracious gift receiver. Yep, we
all are, but I but I cannot encourage it anymore.
So I had to go silent.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's okay, that's all right, Cappy. You don't have to
go silent. Very good, Thank you, Cappy. Line one, Hi, elliot.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
In the morning.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
By this Frank, did you get hear me?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I got you? Who is this?
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Frank Capum?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Why is your name familiar to me?
Speaker 6 (06:45):
By the h A thing you talked about on on November?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh you're that guy. I remember you. I remember you.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You're the one that's fighting with the UH with the
with the HOA board. Haven't you spent like fifty sixty
thousand dollars?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Not that much, no, but certainly a you know, several thousand.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Eight and of thousands, but not remind me you're upset
because you want to fly flags or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
How did the whole thing start?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah? So what happened here was I was if I
got into photomy yard HOA twice. We bought into I
should say, because I'm married, but October twenty eleven. Then
we sold our condo upsize to a can home October
twenty or eight. And the declaration is the Bible. It's
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thirty nine forty pages long via declaration and amended declaration.
And there has some restrictive covenants, such as you can't
affix loudspeakers to your house. If you rent your house,
it has to be a six month lease. There's very
few restricted covenants. But the Supreme Court case came out, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
God, here's my frank, Frank, here's my question.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Let me no, let me I'm finished off. Please no,
because you're.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Gonna start telling me.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Then, by the way, President President Matters, I want to
hear it, Frank.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, because you would be like no, because people no,
excuse me, excuse me people, people said this is you
to a t. Somebody would go hey, d HOA says
you can't do this, and you'd be like Brown versus
Board of Education nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I doubt he cited that right.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
No, but you know what I mean, So you're gonna
tell me, You're gonna tell me, excuse me whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You're a terrible example the because it was fifty four
the I know.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I had the dates wrong. The no, but you're gonna
tell me the Supreme Court?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You know what? Do you know what the rules are?
This is why they kicked you off the board.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Can I get to the grabman of my complaint? Oh
crow of my complaint?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Right?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
There's eighty nine pages of rules and regulations that came
out in twenty twenty one. The Supreme Court said rules
have to be basically covenants based upon covenants in the declaration,
the rules be heathered to a restricted covenant. None of
these rules are enforceable my lawyer. I'm also going after
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them for the parking on the private street. My lawyer
has won three HOA parking cases. One was affirmed by
the Virginia Supreme Court. There's six parking cases out there
every time, and HOA has tried to take a comment
area away for exclusive use through certain residents. They have lost.
They can't name a case. They've been called on it.
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In the demurd they filed the motion to Smith. The
motion that Smith was overruled by the judge in three seconds.
So I would suggest you read it, read the complaint,
and you know, I hope you attend the trial on
April sixth, town So the right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So hey, so let me let me what are you
doing about the flags in your yard?
Speaker 6 (09:55):
We used an alienability of property. There's no restricted covenant
on flags. I never agreed to a rule where you
cannot have flags or a retric to covenant that you
have not not have flags. The HOA is wasting their
time and money on this.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So when when this thing goes to court again in Abra,
wasn't your wife pissed like she wants to travel?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But you're like, I'm blowing all of our money.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I'm here to talk about HOA controversy. You're going to
keep my family out of this. You you posted something
saying why did I agree to the rule and decide
to moving in the neighborhood? And that is patently full.
So I'm talking about HOA controversy here. That's that's what
I'm here for it. I'm going to clear the air.
I never agreed to eighty nine pages of rules and
regulations that are one hundred percent unenforceable. And when we
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moved in, there was no parking polity if the private
road was first come, first serve. They changed that after
we signed our second contract. But that parking policy is
one hundred percent in back.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Let me ask you this. Excuse me, excuse me, Let
me ask you this. What was the thing? Remind me
who is the lady we talked to.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Remember somebody from the neighborhood called smoking hot Ricky Ricky Ricky.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Oh yeah, I mean you know you got you got
to be a kind holding they're holding grudges is a dimianic,
But she's part of the reason. She was on board
when she drafted eighty nine pages of rules and regulations.
And are you on the board. I was on the
board for us twenty five months? Correct, And I and
I told the board none of these rules are enforceable,
and they just try to get a lawyer to justify
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why we have these rules. I made it clear. I
said we got to get rid of these rules. I
also said we have to. I tried to put on
the agenda for meeting to revoke the parking policy. That's
when a lot of neighbors started attacking me. So it's
all they're attacking a whistle blower. That's all this is.
I drew their attention and that is fine, and that's
why we have a court system.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Wait, so remind me, Wait, so, so you do or
you don't like Ricky.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I don't harbor any hostilities towards her, but she caught
a lot of problems on the board. A when she
was on the board, she'd rafted eighty nine pages of
rule and regulations. They were all for an office space
for a community manager thirty thousand dollars a year. I
asked the board, with Ricky on it, why are we
paying for this office space. The board's reply was the
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city requires it. Well, the city never required it. I
had emails from the city that they never required us
to have an on site community manager in Pocomak Yard.
I mean, we have no.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Way, didn't get along with anybody in the neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Well yeah, let me be careful there, because one neighbor
sent us a five thousand dollars check and thank us
for all for doing. We didn't deposit it. So yes, yes,
be very careful there.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What do I have to be careful about it? I
just asked you if anybody in the neighborhood likes.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You, Sidney from promotions.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, yeah, no, John's just asking.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
There's a monthly poker there's a monthly poker tournament that
I attend. But one neighbor who I don't know wrote
us at five thousand dollars check that you know we
never deposited.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Why did you deposit it?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Because you know it's we made a decision to fight this.
Uh we believe doing you know, God's work, you become
the target of the devil. And we don't want any
other neighbors. I don't want any of my neighbor's money
or anything like that. We made the decision, you know,
and you know we thank them for that. But yeah, no,
we're not accepting the money.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Is this all?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Is this really all worth it?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
You can?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
You sound so amped up and so angry when don't you,
in a quiet moment, sit back and go what am
I doing? Who cares if it bothers you that much?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Move well?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Let me let me explain this to you. So we
hired a real estate appraiser. They said, not having access
to these parking spaces is hurting impacting our home value
sixty thousand dollars. So when we go, if things stay
status quo, we sell our home, it's going to we're
going to take a sixty thousand dollars hit because a
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unlawfuled invalid parking policy. A lot of neighbors don't know
that haven't hired a real estate appraisal. The second thing
is these eighty nine pages of rules that are one
unenforceable according to you, buyer gets as a perspective, buyer
gets a copy of those so people are going to
walk away. There's people are going to walk away when
they see these rules. So this has to be corrected
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before we sell. And there's a Virginia statue. The winner
gets all reasonable legal fees. So you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Now you gave us wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
You mentioned how much we spent on legal fees. We
get all reasonable legal fees back. There's a statue. Yeah,
we'll have no discression that when we win.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
If you win, yes, yeah, Now if you end up
losing the case, you're not getting your legal fees back.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Those are valid points though.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
The yeah no, no, I mean, listen, it's a roll
of the dice, right if you if you win, then yeah,
you'll get your money back.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
If you don't, you're you're sol.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Yeah, well we play the percentages. I mean yeah, we
feel quite confident. And you know, no no judge has
ever said an HOA could take away a common area
for private use. These ungarag genres.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So let me ask you this, let me frank, Frank,
let let me ask you this. And I get what
you're I get your argument. And you keep going back
to the parking spots. But then what what is the
torture with everything? So is everything else just like, well
the parking isn't good, I'm gonna I'm gonna trash up
the lights.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm gonna, uh, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Gonna decorate my garage door. Like so are you're you're
you're dug in on the parking spots. But now you're
just throwing everything else.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
At the wall.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Right, I'm not throwing anything off the wall. It's the
holiday season. We have string lights up, we have garden flags.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They're not supposed to have them.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
So we have bird feeders like watching bird.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh, that's it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You're not supposed to have bird feeders, but you put
five of them up.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's that.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
I didn't put five of them up. I put three
of them up that one time. But there's no covenant
on bird feeders.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, Supreme Court, nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Nope, we I did I say real legal cases. I
don't make cases up out a whole call like you,
Ellie Elliott.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, I like the.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
New nickname Grank.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Don't be mad at me. What are you mad at
me for?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I just think your analysis is superficial. I thank you
for covering HOA controversies, and I thank you for letting
me tell my side of the story. That's a heart
thank you. I just think your analysis is superficial. You're
saying the HOA has eighty nine pages of silly rules,
and Frank is a renegade. Well that's the latter simply
is not true. We never agreed to these rules. The
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Declaration is the Bible. I'm not going to cite cases,
but you could attend the trial on April six, and
I hope more media outlets attend the trial on April six.
We are one hundred percent in the right here, so
I'm not a renegade.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Let me ask you this. So let me ask you this.
I have two questions for you, Frank. Number one. Number one,
if you win the case, what then like? What so
you win? And then what?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Well we win? Then we go through what our reasonable
legal fees are, so we collect all money. Uh parking,
we start being able to park right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
But then it's done right, and then it's done and
you're you're friendly and everybody's good.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Right, Yeah, I mean we we yeah, I mean we
certainly are friendly other people. I mean are there's going
to be a mass exodus with those on garaged homes
because people aren't going to buy those homes unless you
have zero or.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
One card, right, and like number two, if you lose,
if you lose, then what.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Well, I mean, if we lose, we won't lose, but
you have the Quarter of Appeals, then you have the
you know, Virginia Supreme Court. It's if we lose and
this if you're asking if we lose in circuit court,
we just you're going.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
To keep going.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You'll take it all the way to the Supreme the
Virginia Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah, I mean, it's ludicrous to be re litigating Fani
Rispel and bat first man chests are.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It is all right, Frank, Well, you're going to keep
me updated, okay, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
Hope you write.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Down Ellie and Diane will be there.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
That would be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
All right, very good, Frank, hold on, I want to
make sure I have your number. Oh hey, last thing
is Ricky hot.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Though I'm happily married, I don't know I'm happily married.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Too, but I still I still see a nice car
when I see a nice car, if you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Yeah, I'm here to discuss controversy. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
We'll talk off when it comes to all right, very good,
I will.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I will say this.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I will say this because it's I mean, people can
pick up on the fact that Diane doesn't like the guy.
I think he's more likable than the callers may call.
But then there was the forgotten one who called right
before Joseph right. But like even the New York Times,
this is the piece that draw all the attention sure
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balls to the story. He at least compared to that
sizzle reel. He's calmer than he's portrayed.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Now, I will say this. I'll just add one thing,
just one thing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
There's a guy who plays on my old man hockey
team who used to do business with Frank. It was like,
Frank's freaking crazy. Yeah, like they stopped doing business with you. No,
it's not I I heard it exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
It may not be. It may not be.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Jermaine to his case, but said Frank is Frank is
freaking crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Now I listen, I don't know, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I wouldn't say that the what Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I don't know, Frank, I got amped up just listening.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Why what do you care? You don't even live.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
There, amen, And that wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, you would. That's a nice area.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Of course. I love Potonia. I'm over there all the time.
But with all that, I taking up the park, with
all that bs and I don't hope you're.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Not taking up the parking spot.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
God, I'm glad Frank called is crazy about the rule
of the law.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And he's going all the way to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well, I don't think he'll have to. He seems pretty confident,
that is true.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He didn't say he'll win. He'll win. That's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I didn't get through anything that I needed to get
through because of Frank.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I do this one? Can I do this one? It's important.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Just make sure it's not superficial.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's not. This is from Ian. What's up?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You guys just took a dump in the Hotel Bennett
bathroom during Christmas tree lighting.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It still rocks. No, thank you, thank you,
Hey guys, my name is Aaron.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am the supervisor at Guchlin Animal Shelter. Now remember
that's the that's them, the larger cat. The yeah, the
fat cap. What is its name Mittens or something like that.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
No, Mischief, that's it right, And it got adopted. And
then on the news they were like local radio station.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I was like, just say it, just say it, you
know who it is, but they didn't want to say it.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Well, no, that's not what happened. We corrected you yesterday.
Well I'm paraphrasing.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Anyway, The Guchlin County Animal Shelter and Adoption Center made
a nice little post yesterday. We heard through the grapevine
that Elliott in the Morning wanted us to thank them,
oh my God, for helping our chunky little feeline friend
find a home.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
That's pathetic.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
So here is your formal shout out.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Mischief is so excited to be going home with their
new mama.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
That's awesome. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
It makes us sound so sad.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
The no, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Oh anyway, what how are you reading that in a
tone that doesn't cast a certain light on you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
They thanked us, but they go on to say, my
name is Aaron, I'm the supervisor at the Guzlin Animal Shelter.
Any chance we can name our next kitten or puppy
litter after you, guys, as a more formal thank you
my god, that's awesome. That would be great. I hate cats,
so they'll name a dog. By the way, thanks for
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a shout out. It has been fund seeing our chunky
friend make headlines. His owner passed away, and it's made
the family so happy to hear that mischief is turning
into a local celebrity. That's awesome, So very good Guzlan,
that's awesome. I'm glad we're partnering like that.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I can't believe they wrote that the No.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I thought that was very nice.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
At first a baby calf, now a kitten.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Also, can I just send a blanket? Thank you?
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Who?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Because you know, everybody's getting like their Spotify wrapped and
just like just like all of their end of the
year streaming things and stuff.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like that, every service did a wrap.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, no, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But the people that send in like how much they
listen to the show.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Thank you very nice.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, it's very very nice. It's very very nice.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Now i'd like to see those numbers go up for everybody.
But that's very nice. That is very very nice.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
When you break it down, because you know, give you
the minutes and you go by day, and then how
many hours we are honest day and then just it's
it's incredible when you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Do the math.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, no, it's very nice.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
The loyalty is off the charts, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
And those of you that aren't, let's get.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
There, Elliott, this is what happened with Gutchland.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I hear Elliott wants me to improve upon the
really impressible.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, no, listen, there's some that are way way up there.
That's great. I was. I was. The ones that aren't.
We could always do better. We can always do better,
always do better. But thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
That's very very nice. I appreciate I say that all
the time. I'm very appreciative to anybody that listens. Also, Elliott,
A siegull flew into my face while walking past Thrasher's
French Fries on the Ocean City boardwalk.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
All right, that'll happen.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Let me grab line four and then I'm gonna grab
line one. Let me start here. Hi, Ellie in the morning,
Good morning, it's cappy, Cappy, how are you good? How
are you cough once? If there's somebody laying next to you?
Speaker 6 (03:34):
No one unless you count a furry creature.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
No, but didn't you didn't you go to some some.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
She's back from the Keys?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
No, I know she hooked up with that guy. She
was going to an event last night. Weren't you going
to weren't you going to chase a little?
Speaker 6 (03:53):
I tried, but they're all too young.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Listen, what is that saying old enough to? Well? Whatever?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
The well?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm sorry, hey, the guy that you hooked up with
in the Keys? What happened there?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Well, I never hooked up nothing, nothing came of it.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So what did you do? Like? Oh well all right,
all right, well forever alone? Any Yes, what can I
do for you? Kappy?
Speaker 6 (04:20):
I have a question for Tyler? Go ahead, Tyler? Why
did you talk about your new dog you got the
other day?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
You posted about a snapchat and I've never heard anything
about more about it?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Wait? Did you get a second dog?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's not a dog as in a real dog. I
was anonymously sent another inflatable.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I'm not part of that.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I'm not part of that.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
So it's not from you.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
No, God, no, no.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, god, No, that's how I know those are white drags.
It was like God, no, No.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I decided not to because after I posted, I realized
two things. One, it was killing my blood pressure readings,
so I'm doomed next week when it comes to that
follow up appointment. So I realized that the senders don't
care about my health. And two, listen to too, And
this is exactly what the second part is. It's a way,
(05:26):
can I say, get off. It's a way for these
people to get off. They find joy in me talking
about me, talking about my misery. So after I posted
that picture, I was like, no, I maybe after I
put it up, I'll take another snap, but I'm not
(05:46):
going to mention it on the air.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
It was like, I can't. I cannot have any more
sense to me.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Why are you at a room?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I was out of room when I got the first one.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
Where is it in relation to the snowman and the whore?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Great question.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's gonna go in the barnyard, so it'll go in
the animals, So we will go in the zoo.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Kathy, by the way, I'm so glad that you, uh
you called. I had no idea that Tyler had added
to the display.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I didn't add it. It's not up yet.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
It's so you got to put it up.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
That's rude, exactly.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I told you I'm a gracious gift receiver. Yep, we
all are, but I but I cannot encourage it anymore.
So I had to go silent.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's okay, that's all right, Cappy. You don't have to
go silent. Very good, Thank you, Cappy. Line one, Hi, elliot.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
In the morning.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
By this Frank, did you get hear me?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I got you? Who is this?
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Frank Capum?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Why is your name familiar to me?
Speaker 6 (06:45):
By the h A thing you talked about on on November?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh you're that guy. I remember you. I remember you.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
You're the one that's fighting with the UH with the
with the HOA board. Haven't you spent like fifty sixty
thousand dollars?
Speaker 6 (07:03):
Not that much, no, but certainly a you know, several thousand.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Eight and of thousands, but not remind me you're upset
because you want to fly flags or something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
How did the whole thing start?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah? So what happened here was I was if I
got into photomy yard HOA twice. We bought into I
should say, because I'm married, but October twenty eleven. Then
we sold our condo upsize to a can home October
twenty or eight. And the declaration is the Bible. It's
(07:38):
thirty nine forty pages long via declaration and amended declaration.
And there has some restrictive covenants, such as you can't
affix loudspeakers to your house. If you rent your house,
it has to be a six month lease. There's very
few restricted covenants. But the Supreme Court case came out, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
God, here's my frank, Frank, here's my question.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Let me no, let me I'm finished off. Please no,
because you're.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Gonna start telling me.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Then, by the way, President President Matters, I want to
hear it, Frank.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, because you would be like no, because people no,
excuse me, excuse me people, people said this is you
to a t. Somebody would go hey, d HOA says
you can't do this, and you'd be like Brown versus
Board of Education nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I doubt he cited that right.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
No, but you know what I mean, So you're gonna
tell me, You're gonna tell me, excuse me whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
You're a terrible example the because it was fifty four
the I know.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
I had the dates wrong. The no, but you're gonna
tell me the Supreme Court?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
You know what? Do you know what the rules are?
This is why they kicked you off the board.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Can I get to the grabman of my complaint? Oh
crow of my complaint?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Right?
Speaker 6 (08:52):
There's eighty nine pages of rules and regulations that came
out in twenty twenty one. The Supreme Court said rules
have to be basically covenants based upon covenants in the declaration,
the rules be heathered to a restricted covenant. None of
these rules are enforceable my lawyer. I'm also going after
(09:12):
them for the parking on the private street. My lawyer
has won three HOA parking cases. One was affirmed by
the Virginia Supreme Court. There's six parking cases out there
every time, and HOA has tried to take a comment
area away for exclusive use through certain residents. They have lost.
They can't name a case. They've been called on it.
(09:33):
In the demurd they filed the motion to Smith. The
motion that Smith was overruled by the judge in three seconds.
So I would suggest you read it, read the complaint,
and you know, I hope you attend the trial on
April sixth, town So the right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So hey, so let me let me what are you
doing about the flags in your yard?
Speaker 6 (09:55):
We used an alienability of property. There's no restricted covenant
on flags. I never agreed to a rule where you
cannot have flags or a retric to covenant that you
have not not have flags. The HOA is wasting their
time and money on this.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
So when when this thing goes to court again in Abra,
wasn't your wife pissed like she wants to travel?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
But you're like, I'm blowing all of our money.
Speaker 6 (10:17):
I'm here to talk about HOA controversy. You're going to
keep my family out of this. You you posted something
saying why did I agree to the rule and decide
to moving in the neighborhood? And that is patently full.
So I'm talking about HOA controversy here. That's that's what
I'm here for it. I'm going to clear the air.
I never agreed to eighty nine pages of rules and
regulations that are one hundred percent unenforceable. And when we
(10:39):
moved in, there was no parking polity if the private
road was first come, first serve. They changed that after
we signed our second contract. But that parking policy is
one hundred percent in back.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Let me ask you this. Excuse me, excuse me, Let
me ask you this. What was the thing? Remind me
who is the lady we talked to.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Remember somebody from the neighborhood called smoking hot Ricky Ricky Ricky.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Oh yeah, I mean you know you got you got
to be a kind holding they're holding grudges is a dimianic,
But she's part of the reason. She was on board
when she drafted eighty nine pages of rules and regulations.
And are you on the board. I was on the
board for us twenty five months? Correct, And I and
I told the board none of these rules are enforceable,
and they just try to get a lawyer to justify
(11:26):
why we have these rules. I made it clear. I
said we got to get rid of these rules. I
also said we have to. I tried to put on
the agenda for meeting to revoke the parking policy. That's
when a lot of neighbors started attacking me. So it's
all they're attacking a whistle blower. That's all this is.
I drew their attention and that is fine, and that's
why we have a court system.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Wait, so remind me, Wait, so, so you do or
you don't like Ricky.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I don't harbor any hostilities towards her, but she caught
a lot of problems on the board. A when she
was on the board, she'd rafted eighty nine pages of
rule and regulations. They were all for an office space
for a community manager thirty thousand dollars a year. I
asked the board, with Ricky on it, why are we
paying for this office space. The board's reply was the
(12:14):
city requires it. Well, the city never required it. I
had emails from the city that they never required us
to have an on site community manager in Pocomak Yard.
I mean, we have no.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Way, didn't get along with anybody in the neighborhood.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Well yeah, let me be careful there, because one neighbor
sent us a five thousand dollars check and thank us
for all for doing. We didn't deposit it. So yes, yes,
be very careful there.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
What do I have to be careful about it? I
just asked you if anybody in the neighborhood likes.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
You, Sidney from promotions.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, yeah, no, John's just asking.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
There's a monthly poker there's a monthly poker tournament that
I attend. But one neighbor who I don't know wrote
us at five thousand dollars check that you know we
never deposited.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Why did you deposit it?
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Because you know it's we made a decision to fight this.
Uh we believe doing you know, God's work, you become
the target of the devil. And we don't want any
other neighbors. I don't want any of my neighbor's money
or anything like that. We made the decision, you know,
and you know we thank them for that. But yeah, no,
we're not accepting the money.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Is this all?
Speaker 5 (13:16):
Is this really all worth it?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
You can?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
You sound so amped up and so angry when don't you,
in a quiet moment, sit back and go what am
I doing? Who cares if it bothers you that much?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Move well?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Let me let me explain this to you. So we
hired a real estate appraiser. They said, not having access
to these parking spaces is hurting impacting our home value
sixty thousand dollars. So when we go, if things stay
status quo, we sell our home, it's going to we're
going to take a sixty thousand dollars hit because a
(13:50):
unlawfuled invalid parking policy. A lot of neighbors don't know
that haven't hired a real estate appraisal. The second thing
is these eighty nine pages of rules that are one
unenforceable according to you, buyer gets as a perspective, buyer
gets a copy of those so people are going to
walk away. There's people are going to walk away when
they see these rules. So this has to be corrected
(14:13):
before we sell. And there's a Virginia statue. The winner
gets all reasonable legal fees. So you mentioned that.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Now you gave us wrong.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
You mentioned how much we spent on legal fees. We
get all reasonable legal fees back. There's a statue. Yeah,
we'll have no discression that when we win.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
If you win, yes, yeah, Now if you end up
losing the case, you're not getting your legal fees back.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Those are valid points though.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
The yeah no, no, I mean, listen, it's a roll
of the dice, right if you if you win, then yeah,
you'll get your money back.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
If you don't, you're you're sol.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Yeah, well we play the percentages. I mean yeah, we
feel quite confident. And you know, no no judge has
ever said an HOA could take away a common area
for private use. These ungarag genres.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So let me ask you this, let me frank, Frank,
let let me ask you this. And I get what
you're I get your argument. And you keep going back
to the parking spots. But then what what is the
torture with everything? So is everything else just like, well
the parking isn't good, I'm gonna I'm gonna trash up
the lights.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'm gonna, uh, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Gonna decorate my garage door. Like so are you're you're
you're dug in on the parking spots. But now you're
just throwing everything else.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
At the wall.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Right, I'm not throwing anything off the wall. It's the
holiday season. We have string lights up, we have garden flags.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
They're not supposed to have them.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
So we have bird feeders like watching bird.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh, that's it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
You're not supposed to have bird feeders, but you put
five of them up.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's that.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
I didn't put five of them up. I put three
of them up that one time. But there's no covenant
on bird feeders.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, Supreme Court, nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Nope, we I did I say real legal cases. I
don't make cases up out a whole call like you,
Ellie Elliott.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, I like the.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
New nickname Grank.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Don't be mad at me. What are you mad at
me for?
Speaker 6 (16:05):
I just think your analysis is superficial. I thank you
for covering HOA controversies, and I thank you for letting
me tell my side of the story. That's a heart
thank you. I just think your analysis is superficial. You're
saying the HOA has eighty nine pages of silly rules,
and Frank is a renegade. Well that's the latter simply
is not true. We never agreed to these rules. The
(16:28):
Declaration is the Bible. I'm not going to cite cases,
but you could attend the trial on April six, and
I hope more media outlets attend the trial on April six.
We are one hundred percent in the right here, so
I'm not a renegade.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Let me ask you this. So let me ask you this.
I have two questions for you, Frank. Number one. Number one,
if you win the case, what then like? What so
you win? And then what?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Well we win? Then we go through what our reasonable
legal fees are, so we collect all money. Uh parking,
we start being able to park right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
But then it's done right, and then it's done and
you're you're friendly and everybody's good.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Right, Yeah, I mean we we yeah, I mean we
certainly are friendly other people. I mean are there's going
to be a mass exodus with those on garaged homes
because people aren't going to buy those homes unless you
have zero or.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
One card, right, and like number two, if you lose,
if you lose, then what.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Well, I mean, if we lose, we won't lose, but
you have the Quarter of Appeals, then you have the
you know, Virginia Supreme Court. It's if we lose and
this if you're asking if we lose in circuit court,
we just you're going.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
To keep going.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You'll take it all the way to the Supreme the
Virginia Supreme Court.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah, I mean, it's ludicrous to be re litigating Fani
Rispel and bat first man chests are.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It is all right, Frank, Well, you're going to keep
me updated, okay, you know, I.
Speaker 6 (17:59):
Hope you write.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Down Ellie and Diane will be there.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
That would be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
All right, very good, Frank, hold on, I want to
make sure I have your number. Oh hey, last thing
is Ricky hot.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Though I'm happily married, I don't know I'm happily married.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Too, but I still I still see a nice car
when I see a nice car, if you know what
I mean.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Yeah, I'm here to discuss controversy. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
We'll talk off when it comes to all right, very good,
I will.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I will say this.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I will say this because it's I mean, people can
pick up on the fact that Diane doesn't like the guy.
I think he's more likable than the callers may call.
But then there was the forgotten one who called right
before Joseph right. But like even the New York Times,
this is the piece that draw all the attention sure
(19:00):
balls to the story. He at least compared to that
sizzle reel. He's calmer than he's portrayed.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Now, I will say this. I'll just add one thing,
just one thing.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
There's a guy who plays on my old man hockey
team who used to do business with Frank. It was like,
Frank's freaking crazy. Yeah, like they stopped doing business with you. No,
it's not I I heard it exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
It may not be. It may not be.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Jermaine to his case, but said Frank is Frank is
freaking crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Now I listen, I don't know, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I wouldn't say that the what Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
I don't know, Frank, I got amped up just listening.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Why what do you care? You don't even live.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
There, amen, And that wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, you would. That's a nice area.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Of course. I love Potonia. I'm over there all the time.
But with all that, I taking up the park, with
all that bs and I don't hope you're.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Not taking up the parking spot.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
God, I'm glad Frank called is crazy about the rule
of the law.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And he's going all the way to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Well, I don't think he'll have to. He seems pretty confident,
that is true.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He didn't say he'll win. He'll win. That's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
I didn't get through anything that I needed to get
through because of Frank.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I do this one? Can I do this one? It's important.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Just make sure it's not superficial.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's not. This is from Ian. What's up?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
You guys just took a dump in the Hotel Bennett
bathroom during Christmas tree lighting.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
It still rocks. No, thank you, thank you,
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