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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you in any kind of relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Married?
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Okay, that's a yes.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Now so.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Listen, you're a dude.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
You know the story every so often when a man
what's the word that I'm looking for orgasms or whatever?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That was? I not that, no, no, but to be honest,
I was seeing loves a woman.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
No no, but you know what I mean, Like, after you,
after you complete, right, like, you'll get tired.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You'll get tired.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
So like if you're like like there are times listen,
every guy's done it.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I don't know about like Diane.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
But the but like if you if you're having a
hard time falling asleep, if you masturbate sometimes it helps
knock you out right, sure, right, or if you're if
you're having marital relations with your old lady, you may,
and it's it's in the evening or later in the evening,
you may. And then afterwards words, afterwards you're a little tired.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Right, Yes, that's all very that's all.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Very normal and common. All very normal. Isn't that hormonal?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah? I can't remember what.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
They say, like it's like a dopamine release or something.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I know this is wrong, but I think they know.
I want to say that in reading, and I'd have
to start looking. Is it called blastemine. There's no way,
there's no way that it's called that.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But it's a lactin or something. No, sir, now you're
just being disgusting.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
But that's that's what causes the the energy drained, Ianne,
look it up?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What is it? Did you find it?
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Blasphemide is nowhere near what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What is it? What is it?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
It's a fungus side actually, that's used to control rice
blast disease.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, no, well that's what blasphemie? What is the hormone
when I orgasm?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Well, the Google is acting me. Did you mean blasphemino?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Maybe that's it?
Speaker 5 (01:58):
He blasphemy blessed, blessed toys.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Okay, I may not have the right word, Diane. I'd
start getting away from the.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Blast blast Amino's calligraphy sart's tired after sex orgasm?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Man? Okay, please?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And then do an image search.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
It talks about oxytocin. That is the cuddle hormone, prolactin.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Maybe that's it. What is prolactin? Fast active?
Speaker 6 (02:30):
This hormone is released after your orgasm and is linked
to feelings of satisfaction and drowsiness.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
What is it called prophylactin, prolactin, prolacted, prolacted.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I am never going to think of.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Tough actin prolactin.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yes, so anyway, anyway, that's that's what happens, That's what
makes you tie. Have we ever heard of and it's
not a pre prolactin, but if we ever heard where
there are people where just the actual act while like
(03:09):
the act of it makes them tired. So the second
that the intimacy starts, they get tired, not once the intermiscy,
the intimacy gets.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
To an orgasm that they get tired.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
And you're not talking about someone who's going on for
a long, long session.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Oh like our tantric sex guy.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
No no, no, no, not at all, not at all,
a very normal session just immediately.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
So so in reading this, they're they're talking about this guy,
and this guy says, I could be It's not like
I'm tired and like I've been up all day, like
I'm running on a.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Normal, normal sleep and I'm totally fine.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
And the second my wife and I start to get
get intimate together, he's like.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It is a fight to keep my eyes open.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Hum. But he said there are sometimes there are sometimes
where it's so bad that once he starts, not only
is he fighting to keep his eyes open, it it
goes limp pasta like that.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
No, and he said, it's very troubling, and obviously it is.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
It is started to prevent them him from wanting them
to be intimate, because he knows that it's disappointing for
for his partner, his wife.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, no one wants erectile issues.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
No, no, no, but it's not. But it's not, it's
not it's not that he can't get it.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Up, he said, limp pasta, No, just from being so tired.
It sounds like it's now.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Granted, there are times that I've been asleep and have
an erection, so it's not always one v one however, No, no,
but he doesn't have a rectile dysfunction.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
He can get a boner. No, but he even.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
Okay, but but he's he's trying to you're saying, fight
through the drowsiness.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
But then it is affecting.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
The drowsiness wins.
Speaker 7 (04:59):
But it's but that's affecting also his ability to remain turgid.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Turgid. Isn't that the word it is, but limp pasta
is much better.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
At least it doesn't sound clinical turgid.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But is he also Elliott? Do you have a boner? Oh? No, no, no, no,
I'm turgid.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
Who's asking you if you have a can come into
the room.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yet she has never said that.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
She's never said the word turgid.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
No, but this sounds like it's what I was saying.
It's it's not that he's then able to stay awake,
but then there's problems downstairs.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He's just a mess head to toe. Yeah, yeah, he's
so tired. What's going on there? I've never heard of it.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
He should go to a doctor, right, never heard of it?
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Say again, they suggest if something starts happening that you
feel is out of the word near, you should go
to a doctor.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Could this be a hormone that's released earlier?
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Is that blasta mine?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
No, that's what I mean. It's not a P It's
not like PC. Right, it's not got pre plactosid.
Speaker 9 (06:12):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Pla prolacted fast act and prolacted? How did you forget that.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
You've ruined one of the most famous slogans of all
time or ad campaigns.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
But no, I'm saying, there are hormones that are.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
Released just yes, in the pheromones, you know, or even
before foreplay, just if there's thought of doing something in
the bedroom. Is his body releasing something? No, releasing something early?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Oh, I don't know the answer to that. I don't
know the answer. He doesn't know the answer to that.
He's just like, or is it just Pavlov's dog. I
know I'm going to sleep afterwards. I'm gonna start sleeping
instead of waiting. Instead of waiting, I'll just start sleeping now.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
So you think it's like conditioning, not conditioning as in
stamina of a class conditioning.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Possibly, they're saying or and and by the way, Diane
kind of tickled it a little bit of people will
there may be something medically going on, but people people
don't equate the two, like medically, there's something wrong with me,
so they won't say something to a doctor. Doctors would
(07:23):
tell you keep track, like does this happen every time?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is it during is it.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
At nine o'clock, at eight o'clock, at ten o'clock, at
eleven o'clock? What did you eat for dinner? Were you
having too much protein? Did you not have enough protein?
Did you have too many carbohydrates?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
How many?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
How many of those flash ride garbonzo beans? Did you eat?
What about it? Like alcohol? Alcohol generally makes you horny
and lasts longer. It definitely. Oh if you jump, if
you jump the shark?
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Yeah, what do you if you drink too much?
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, like you gotta find that balance.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well, is that this guy's problem he's an alcoholic?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
No, no, it doesn't. It doesn't say that he's drinking.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Did he talk about his overall fitness seems to be fine?
Speaker 9 (08:06):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
No, no, no he did not No, but he wasn't
like I am s hammered when every time this goes on?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Or is he morbidly obese? No? Okay, okay, always no,
they said no because oh my god, it's Elliott.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
No.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
But are there are there people who just touch it
gets tired? I don't know, never heard of it.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
He said.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Dehydration could play a part just in general emotional health.
Speaker 10 (08:42):
One.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But they do say journal it, Yeah, track.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Like the last. Did you could say like the you know,
eight out of the last?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Myself?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, I said it to Juliana.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Hi Elliott in the morning.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I'm doing great?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Thank you? Who's this.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
My name is I Aaron?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yes, Aaron?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
What can I do for you?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I was calling. So what I have is a condition
called hyper prolactinoma. So it's tumors on the pituitary gland
that caused that prolactin hormone to be you know, produced
a lot more than what it should be. So I
mean I gained like one hundred pounds in a year,
super tired all the time. Same with the intimacy, just
(09:31):
not there. It was horrible.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Wait a minute, you gained one hundred pounds in a year.
Oh yeah, but I don't understand from what.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Lack of exercise. It also drives your testosterone down, which
is a major factor in you know, the your metallica.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
The man so you literally were that girl in high
school is like, I have a pituitary problem. Remember I
kissed her.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
She had a big, sweaty upper lip.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
The so what did you? What did you did?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Obviously you've you learned this from a doctor?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You didn't know?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I didn't know. So I had been being treated
for depression and they were trying to figure out the uh,
the weight gain issue. And it took him the whole,
the whole year to actually figure out what was going on.
And it wasn't until they sent me to an endocrinologist
and she did. She had an MRI downe in my
brain and that's how they found it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Were you always tired?
Speaker 11 (10:35):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Always?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
If I sat down for even a minute, I was
falling asleep.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So where were you? Like? Like you said, it was
bad for intimacy and what way?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Uh? Lack of any drive at all? Same thing as
this guy said, you know, as soon as you would
start to do something, you're just more or less disinterested.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Were you were you in? Are you still married?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I am married? And I was married?
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yes, same woman?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Same woman?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh did it cause no?
Speaker 11 (11:11):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I was just going to say, like, did it did it? Cause?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
I understand that it caused a problem because there was
no intimacy, But did it cause problem? Why you guys
can't figure this out? Was your wife beating you and
herself up?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Of Like?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
If it's not you, what am I doing?
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (11:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
She definitely thought it had a lot to do with her,
but obviously it had nothing to do with her.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
It was off me.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
How has it been since they figured it out?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So I started on a medication called ktbergoline, So it
actually shrinks the tumor. And I mean, my hormone levels
are now normal and everything's been the same, and I've
I've lost eighty six pounds since I've been on the
medication and everything's back to normal.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
So you got you, you can get, and you can
get and keep like regular wood. Oh yeah, have we
made up for lost time.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
It's like I'm sixteen again.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
That a boy.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
No, I bet, I bet all of a sudden, that
thing's work and you're awake, like you're ready to go.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
You losing all this weight, you probably feel fantastic.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I feel great.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Good for you. And dude, how did they?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh you went to an endocrinologist. Yes, by the way,
you may have just saved somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
That'll be awesome.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah. No, good for you, Good for you, Thank you,
my friend, thank you.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yes, Tyler, some suggestions are coming in because perhaps someone
listening is embarrassed to call, but.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Don't be embarrassed for your friends is going through a
similar symptom.
Speaker 7 (12:43):
What about relations that aren't in just in the evening.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Oh, like nooners and stuff. Yes, Oh it's whenever. Oh
so it doesn't matter, No time of day doesn't matter.
I think he also starts to get really du like dozy,
even if he masturbates, which is at night what you're
kind of leaning for, but after.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
But he's feeling sleepy ahead of actually doing it, starting
to do it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Starting to do it.
Speaker 7 (13:14):
Are you then, as you say, tickling at it the No, No,
the hormone, Diane, No.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
No, because think about it.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
That come the the hormone comes upon completion, not before.
It's It's not like a slow leak in a tire.
It's a fast leak afterwards.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Unless you do have some sort of tumor. Okay, well,
I don't know if the guy, Hey do I have
a tumor? Like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I don't know if he has a tumor. But that
is one of the things that're like you you, Diane.
Diane nailed it right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You gotta you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Gotta say something.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
But that could be embarrassing to go say to a doctor, hey,
I'm dozing off.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
You know you can word it and still get your
point across. I'm noticing extreme fatigue. Oh when when I'm
having sex they ask you about fatigue every time you
get doctor.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
My doctor has never said or you dozen off, while
he'll not.
Speaker 7 (14:06):
The specifics, but they definitely say they have you fill
out at least my doctor does fill out, probably because
I'm dying. They have you fill out a form where
you have to grade yourself on a variety of metrics
or a variety of Yeah, but you.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Could say fatigue and check yes, and they'll go you're fatigued, yes, when.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
All the time? Oh, if you're going to continue lying, yeah,
you're not going to get the help you know.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
No, no, but you may not know it's brought on
by this sleep medicine that is a vagina.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
But then there was somebody on snapshot who said, and
maybe because you brought up conditioning, is it only in
the bed?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Like if they try to have sex elsewhere? Oh, I
don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
But you see, what they're connecting to sleep is the
fact that he's in the setting for sleep.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh you know what, Doc says, we have to use
another room. No, you know what, that's interesting.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
That's interesting because you always say, what's your rule about
the bedroom?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's for sleeping and coffin. Yes, no television, No, there
should be no TV in there.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
You want TV in there?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You do the acting? Okay, but what if there's just something.
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Maybe there's a smell from because some people spray their
their beds with some sort of room scent.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
By the way, I went back to our earlier conversation
and wondered if Diane was otr.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
No, could there be something triggering, like it smells like
sleep or just your room has a smell to it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, and you would equate your room with sleep.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Therefore, that smell makes me sleep. You know what is?
Get closer to it?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, it's II fi Kristen doing I.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Get I get around belly button. I am out. I'm sorry,
say again.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I was going to admit that after a year plus
of having a peloton in your room, boy, even though
you have a mat down, it starts to smell like
a gym.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh I bet. Yeah, of course there's.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
A lot of there's a lot of sweat in there, so.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
I try to sleep with a lot of candles. They're
there lavender, so it keeps me calm in the event
of a fire.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
But I thought that was a really good guess.
Speaker 8 (16:38):
Is there anything in your room that you know, help
sleep well, just helps you settle?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
No, I mean there really isn't, Like I remember, I
have that special pillow, not for sex. For what I
thought was.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Oh, I thought, didn't you have one that you put
under your knees or something?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Oh like a wedge? Yes, I have a stool in here.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I have one in here.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
For those watching. Kristen is laughing because Elliott pointed.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
No, I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I don't think I do like Jackie does, like jack
like Jackie likes like Jackie will play. I can't hear it,
not because the bed is five miles wide, but.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Like Jackie, Jackie plays music.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Oh music, the white I was gonna ask the white noise.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
No, no, no, but she'll play. She'll play like music. Is
it always on?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Like, so she puts on when she's going to sleep. Yeah. Yeah,
Well if this guy.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
That's like a signal to your brain.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Okay, but if.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
This guy's got that, just turn it off. Oh no,
but you asked us there's something in our room, but
for me there isn't.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
But I meant, I meant something that you know, what's
in my room that triggers me to go to sleep
my bed.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Well that's enough, that could be enough. That could be
what's happening with this guy.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So he just sees his bed and is like I'm.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Out listen that was Snapchat.
Speaker 7 (18:05):
Do you want me to tell you what one of
the dms on Instagram set is going on?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah, he's gay.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
The I don't think that's the case. I really don't.
I don't mine too, Hi, elliot.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
In the morning.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
Hey, just try to have sex during the day, like
when you watch National Geographic. No, other mammals have sex
at night. They always have sex during the day, so
the balance of cortisol and other wakeful hormones balance out
the relaxation hormones required to gain an erection. So I
mean the nighttime mammals are supposed to be looking out
for predators or sleeping, not trying to get busy.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
But two things.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Number one, you said you sound so clinical like you
you've got like a clinical.
Speaker 9 (18:56):
Voice, scientist.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Oh is your name Ryan, No, it's not that the
And then number two, is is that true that humans
are the only mammals that have that have sex at night.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
I've never really when you research other mammals, you know,
sexual practices, that's usually during the day, like elephants, lions,
other because at nighttime you're supposed to be quiet, be
wary of predators and or sleeping so that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Okay, yeah, but lions don't have to like get up
and go to work and do like relativities with their
kids after school and then have dinner.
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. We've made life pretty complicated and
it kind of gets in the way of sex.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Interesting. I want to I want to research that. I
want to research that.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, check it out, I will, I will, all.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Right, teach, I appreciate, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
You remain very confident on hold with his theory in
the face he gave the other one that had just
come in.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Line three.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
Hello, Hi, who's this is me?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (20:18):
Oh, hi Elliott, Hi, this is Kristen.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (20:22):
I was just calling.
Speaker 10 (20:23):
So I've I've had experience with men who have had
problems with their women in the bedroom so far as
I used to work as a professional dominatrix and a
number of my clients, actually the majority of my clients
came to me because they wanted help satisfying their women.
Speaker 11 (20:42):
At home. And either that or they couldn't.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
And what moralized it wanted what you picked a horrible
place for your phone to cut out, either or they
would come to you, and.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
And what.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
So whither they would come to me, and they would
have them not being able.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
To he You've got there, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
I trust me. I want to hear every word you
have to say. But the service in the dungeon is
not good.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
I don't I don't know.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
I don't know if I can go elsewhere or what
I should do?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Where? Where are you?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Where are you?
Speaker 10 (21:19):
I'm I'm in my apartment in DC.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Can you like walk in a circle and I'll just
find a spot where it works best?
Speaker 10 (21:28):
Does it work better here?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Keep walking?
Speaker 9 (21:32):
Here?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You got to talk like like sing the alphabet or
something like the other way?
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Oh gosh, okay over here?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Am I the only I? The only person you've ever
talked to? That's like your apartment sucks?
Speaker 10 (21:51):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Hello, Hi?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Oh hey, think it's better blowing the phone?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That may have gotten it?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That may have gotten it? Man? Are you there?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
No?
Speaker 11 (22:08):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
All right, keep walking, I'm gonna get right.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Maybe you'll get on a different cell, hold on one,
a different tower, hold.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
On one second, hold on.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Apartment.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
No, but I want to hear that, like so so
if if she's a dominatrix, what she was saying is
people come to me, is that because they think, like
my my wife or my.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Girlfriend's bagoon puts me to sleep.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
So maybe if I go and I'm like whipping and.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Teaching them techniques, that's what she's sort of. Yeah, yeah, no,
I like that.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I like that, But I.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Feel like she was going to have some thoughts on
the drowsingness too.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Oh yeah, it could be or she was just gonna
go he gay, Hey.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Are you there?
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh so much better, so much better. Wait, so you're
you're a dominatrix.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
Uh yeah, I.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
Was a professional dominatrix for for a while.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And you were.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
But you were saying, men, a lot of a lot
of your clients or.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Or your the people that you were that you were
dominatrixing with, would come to you with this problem.
Speaker 11 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:22):
So the majority of my clients would come to me
because well, one either they wanted help in the bedroom,
they didn't feel confident enough, and they felt that like
exploring with a dominatrix would you know, sort of give
them that confidence that they were lacking, or they couldn't
and wanted to be demoralized as a result by a dominatrix.
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Like I mean, I could go into detail if you.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Like, Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I got nothing going on.
Go ahead.
Speaker 10 (23:53):
So for instance, Yeah, one that sticks out on my
mind particularly is a gentleman who insisted upon wearing his
wife's panties, you know, touching himself to completion. And the
whole time I'm telling him, you know what a terrible, disgusting,
you know, a displeasing man he is for his wife,
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and how his wife would be so ashamed of him
if she saw him wearing her panties. And yeah, he
would get off to that, and then he would want to,
you know, do whatever with his whatever. I don't know
what I'm like not allowed to say.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Well, you can't use the same.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You can't do whatever with your whatever, like you can't
do you can't use whatever for both words.
Speaker 11 (24:39):
Okay, so whatever with his stuff?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (24:45):
Is that? Is that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I think so.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
I don't know if I understand or not, but I'm
with you, Hey, what is the but what is the
So so he you would tell him where you're did
he do it on his owner?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Would you tell him put your.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Put your your wife's panties on? Would they be able?
Speaker 10 (25:01):
Would they be able to go? After that?
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And the be like now I'm now I feel good,
I'm going to be able to go take care of
my wife.
Speaker 10 (25:10):
Well evidently, yeah, that that did help a lot of
men in the bedroom with their wives at home. I
don't think that they shared the information of seeing a
dominatrix with their wives, but it worked in such a
like I've talked to other doms about it, and we
kind of say that like, at the end of the day,
we feel more like we offer a therapy as opposed
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to you know, like a sexual exchange.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
If that I get that, I understand that mindset.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (25:41):
So for instance, another client I had, he was he
was a newly disabled paraplegic. I don't I don't remember
it was a car accident or what exactly caused it,
but he like lost all sensation from the waist down,
and he was like, I just need to figure out
how I can do this what it takes.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
But isn't that reflexive.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Isn't that like like like that just happens.
Speaker 10 (26:07):
I think it was more for his woman, like he
was too embarrassed to explore with her to figure out
what could get him to satisfy her right enough. I
think that he kind of wanted to have like a
trial run. And you know, with my clients, I thought,
it's really it is like I don't know, it's like
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a teacher student kind of thing.
Speaker 11 (26:30):
There's you know, not there's.
Speaker 10 (26:31):
No sexual exchange. It's not a sexual nature, but there
isn't any sexual exchange. And so it's like, okay, well,
is whipping you gonna do it? Is talking down to
you going to do it? Like humiliation corporal punishment, Like
what sort of thing is making you feel aroused even
though you can't get it up? What's making you feel
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sexually excited?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right?
Speaker 11 (26:54):
And yeah?
Speaker 10 (26:55):
Yeah, So for him it actually ended up being humiliation,
and like.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Is it really what I said? Was it really like?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
And I mean, listen, God blessed that there are people,
but I feel like if you just started humiliating me,
I wouldn't be like, oh my god, look I have
a bone.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
Run.
Speaker 7 (27:16):
Well.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
So the thing is like we always have a consultation beforehand.
We discuss, you know, what their limitations are, We discuss
hard nos, we discuss like how far they can you know,
go with and play? And I mean I don't just
go in there and like, you know, do whatever and
hope that they like it. I go in there with
with a very specific, like set script and a very
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specific mentality because I'm trying to achieve what it is
that they want the outcome to be.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
You're so professional, I mean you you have to be.
Speaker 10 (27:49):
It's like it's sex work.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
How long have you been doing it?
Speaker 10 (27:55):
I actually haven't been doing it for a while, but
I did it for about two years.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
So is day one hard?
Speaker 8 (28:03):
Like?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Is that a rough job? To start?
Speaker 10 (28:06):
Day one was not okay? So for me personally, it
wasn't very hard because I was into it already due
to a partner that I was with. It was like
his whole entire he was Russian. It was like his
whole entire thing was you know, humiliation and force semonization.
Never heard of it in my life, was totally put
off by it, but like that was my person at
(28:28):
the time, and I really wanted to try to satisfy him,
and so I just kind of got into it, and
I like did a little bit more than I thought
I would. And next thing, I know, my girlfriend's like, hey,
I do this, you can too, So I did. And No,
it wasn't really hard because there has to be an
element of fun, right Otherwise it's it's not it's just punishment.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Do you make a lot of money? Did you make
a lot of money?
Speaker 10 (28:54):
It was, it was it's definitely money that I missed.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Yes, and you would like would you you would see
all of them naked, but they would never see you naked.
Speaker 10 (29:06):
No, they would never see me naked. And I wouldn't
always even necessarily see them naked. If that's something you can't.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Because I got Jackie's panties on.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Yeah, a lot of dudes really like wearing their wives panties.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Like as a joke on my head. Hey, what is what.
Speaker 10 (29:29):
Is the get off? Kind of fetish?
Speaker 1 (29:31):
No, no, I get that, well, I understand that.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Let me say that, Hey, what is the what is
the why did you just out of curiosity?
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Why'd you stop?
Speaker 11 (29:41):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 10 (29:43):
It just kind of like fizzled out. I didn't have
a lot of clients anymore. I wasn't really too interested
in finding more. My one client that I had monthly,
he uh he like he just went in a different way,
and then I had all of my You're stolen by
another dom, But you know, it's it's a pretty patty
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little industry.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Wait, somebody stole all of your stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, and I.
Speaker 10 (30:12):
Had some really nice things too, so that that, I mean,
that was a huge hit. I mean you can go
into you know, into a scene with like nothing, but
it definitely helps to have. Yeah, absolutely, hey, but like
I had, like I had a chain with that thing
was amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
So where hold on image, sir? Yeah? Where was where
was your stuff?
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Like I assumed you were working out of your apartment
or were you guys like salon lofts where it's like
it's like a big building with a bunch of hairstylists
in it, But yours was like a bunch of doms.
Speaker 10 (30:52):
Every dom has a different arrangement. Uh, because of like
my financial situation and my living situation, I actually would
typically domb out of an airbnb that I kind of regulated,
so I also knew the individual, so we had like
an arrangement. Just their setup was really really conducive towards
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the work that I was doing.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
If you want to get back into it, I'll I
can find an empty studio in the building.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I'll let you use that.
Speaker 10 (31:24):
I don't think i'd say no at this point, to
be honest.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
By the way, look at the what was it called
a chain whip?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Dude, how much does this cost?
Speaker 4 (31:35):
I don't know, but it's gonna leave a mark. My god,
you could split somebody open.
Speaker 11 (31:41):
Well, it depends on you know, the force behind it.
Speaker 10 (31:44):
But you always work up to it and they have
to be okay with that. Like, that's the thing is,
you always have a safe word and there are hard notes,
so you know. Sometimes I would never break out the
chain whip. It would just be there to kind of
like add an element of intimidation, but it didn't always
get utilized. I yeah, I personally loved it. I just
thought it was a beautiful piece of work.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
But it's no longer in your possess.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Somebody stole I hate that somebody stole all your stuff.
Speaker 11 (32:11):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
It was all really expensive.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Are you in a relationship.
Speaker 10 (32:18):
Currently? I am yes.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Does your partner know that you're a dom? Are you
a dom in the relationship?
Speaker 10 (32:29):
He just said a little bit, Yeah, because you let him.
But no, that's funny. Oh my gosh, so maybe we're
a bit of a switch. No, he's totally aware of
like my history and everything. I've been completely honest with him.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I also didn't know there was a man sitting there.
Speaker 10 (32:47):
Oh, he's like in another room. But yeah, we both
adore you and we listen to you almost every morning.
I've been listening to you since I was like three
years old.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Probably pre dom the interesting. Hey, can I can? I
I have to ask, I have.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
To ask on a scale of one to ten, would
most people attractive? Wise, most people would say you're about
like between a nine and a ten.
Speaker 11 (33:13):
I mean, I don't know about it anymore. I'm maybe
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
That's a weird question to ask. I guess my boyfriend
is saying I'm at least an eight. I think, I mean,
I don't like to look at people on a scale
like that.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Well as well, right, frank component the dominatrix? All right,
very good? Wait, yes, ma'am, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (33:39):
Oh, I was just gonna say, the most popular dominatrix
in the area. I don't know if this is too much,
but is she's like a six foot two.
Speaker 11 (33:49):
Japanese just beast of a woman.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yesmoron.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Wait, so she's said she's Japanese and she is a
beast of a woman.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Is she like in that world?
Speaker 4 (34:04):
It would that be like saying like, I don't like
like if I was in that world of like going
to see dominatrixes or like a bunch of my friends.
And if I said, like, whatever her name is, I
don't know what her name is, A Kira, would everybody
be like.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Oh, I know her.
Speaker 10 (34:20):
More or less? Yeah, I mean it's a it's a
pretty it's a pretty like tight knit but also you know,
full community. I mean there's some there's stuff going on
on around.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Amazing, amazing, all right, you know what. I love you?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Hold tight one saying I want to make sure I
have your info in case we need you.
Speaker 10 (34:42):
Oh, okay, that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
All right, very good.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
You'll be one of my Dominatrix correspondents. Hold on one second.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
She's awesome.
Speaker 7 (34:50):
What if because this company did have their holiday party
pretty early on the calendar.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
What if as a treat you just do.
Speaker 7 (34:58):
Use one of the open studios and people just sign
up for slots.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You guys in New York HadAM missus, but Susha did that?
Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Wow, are you serious? Line five, Hi Elliott.
Speaker 10 (35:13):
In the morning, Elliott, can I get a T shirt?
You're talking to my daughter right now.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Your daughter's the dominatrix ya.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
How do you know that?
Speaker 10 (35:23):
Come? I know her name and I know her voice,
and I know what.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
She's done in the past.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Does it make you mad?
Speaker 10 (35:29):
No, I'm cracking up right now.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Hey, hold on one set. None of that information was
new to her, Did you know all of that.
Speaker 11 (35:37):
Kind of we have a different relationship.
Speaker 10 (35:42):
Yeah, we're not very we Yeah they weren't close all
the time, but yeah, I kind of had an idea.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
When is the last time you talked to her?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (35:52):
A couple of days ago.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Oh, okay, so you guys talk. Hey, what is hold on?
Hold on one second, don't go anywhere. Hey, hey, Dominatrix,
are you there?
Speaker 11 (36:04):
Oh my gosh, you did not Hi.
Speaker 10 (36:05):
Mom, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 11 (36:14):
I'm great.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
It'd be nice if you called me once in a
while instead of Elliott. I figured Elliott was the best medium.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 10 (36:23):
There you go. You knew i'd be listening. Thank you, Elliott.
You're like family. You're like family for us. You don't
even understand.
Speaker 11 (36:30):
I told my mom.
Speaker 10 (36:30):
I was like, you need to take him out for
a drink already, Like, just get Jackie, you'll go out,
have a good time.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
It sounds like mom and I have sudden in common
there with some cigarettes and I quit almost two years ago.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
But your mom didn't that, or she's still making luck butter.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
No.
Speaker 11 (36:49):
I yeah, no, I quit.
Speaker 10 (36:50):
The mom quit almost two years ago. Oh okay, So
I have allergies and I'm crying laughing, so my nose
is running. All right, I gotta go back to work.
You guys can wait.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Wait, don't don't because I don't know how to hang
up the phone.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, hold on one second. This is the part I
don't know how to do. Okay, hold on line.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Hey mom, you're online. Five.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Hold on one second? Can I put that on hold?
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Hey, Dominatrix. Sorry to hook you up with your mom there.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
But I couldn't have resisted the urge, dude.
Speaker 10 (37:22):
I honestly could not have had a better morning.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Oh excellent, all right, very good, very good. Hold on
one second. Hold on, by the.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Way, I got chain whips. I gotta get ordered, all right,
let me do this quick break. Let's come back, Yes, Tyler.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Don't forget before we get out of here. You have
to judge the Christmas Choir Competition