June 2, 2026 ⢠24 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I would like to talk to an indoor bird owner. Now,
I got every I got everybody who's got chickens. I
got everybody who's got chickens. And they do say chickens
do it. But I just don't know if you would
see them or if it would be as noticeable as
somebody who has like a like a record in the
(00:21):
living Yeah, like a regular indoor indoor.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Bird line too. Here we go, Hi, Elliet in the morning?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is this me?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Who's this?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
This is Maria.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I've been listening to you for pretty much my whole life.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well that's why.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
When did you start?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Ninety eight?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ninety nine? But that's clothes, that's very kind nine, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Since ninety nine. This is the first time I've actually
called in and spoke to you. But yes, my family
and I have a green cheek conyer. It's like a small,
friendly pairrot, very popular in the pitch raid. What did
you want to know about them?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, let me ask you a question first, is do
you know male or female?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You know if the bird's a boy or girl?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Female?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Female?
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Right?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Female?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? What is the And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I don't know based on my on my studies I
don't know if males or females do it more, But
how often is your bird masturbating?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Uh, it's pretty frequent. I don't know if females do
it more than males. But there are a lot of
things in their environment and things that their owners can
subconsciously do that will stimulate these things. There's also I'm
actually an exotic vet tech, so like exotic animal nurse,
so there's a whole bunch of things you can do
(01:47):
to regulate that the but it's it could be like
once a day, honestly, Like sometimes you pet them the
wrong way and they'll start basically humping you, and you
have to be stern end uh, you know, reprimand them
in some kind of way.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Let me ask you this about being let me ask
you this, and it's my understanding, and you would know this.
For a female, they kind of lift that like that
back end up and just start kind of like, yeah,
they do rubbing it almost like almost almost like a
woman sliding down a.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Banister, Diane to heat up dinner.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Sure, sure, but let me let me go back, let
me go back to something. Why do you reprimand them?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Oh, that's a good question. I mean you basically don't
want to reinforce that sexual behavior if they're not actually
going to mate. I mean, it's it's gross for us
on our end, but I mean there's there's no need
for that. And then it increases their like sexual stimulating
hormones and they get into breeding season and all of that,
(02:49):
they can they just get really aggressive and hormonal, and
it could just go down a bad road, right right, So.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know what, So here's here's why I asked.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
I was.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I was in my study.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They were saying that bird keeper bird keepers excuse me,
are often advised to discourage.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, let me back up a step. I had no idea.
Birds masturbate like crazy, like crazy, And that's where they said.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It could be anything from parents to conyers to African
grays to cockatiles to chickens to turkeys. Like birds, birds
masturbate Diane like like their life depends on it. But
I guess here's where here's where we are right now, Birds,
bird keepers like you are often advised to discourage and
(03:40):
even punish birds for masturbating. However, a new study found
that the activity was more common in wild birds than
in captive birds, and that you should just let them
be because it used to be this belief that once
they were captive, like now because they can't.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Have what's the word, I'm like free range what is
not of a big bird term.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They can't have free range sex because there's not other
animals around, so that when they're inside, they just if
I can't, if I can't, if I can't have another bird,
I'll just do it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'll just knuckle it right. Yeah, So that was the belief.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But what they found is that in free range birds
they actually masturbate more than enclosed birds, and that you
should just let them be, let them be, let them
enjoy it, let them get after it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I mean sometimes they get so frustrated they'll they'll
take it out in other ways. Like a lot of
birds are super hormonal and they get aggressive and they
need to take this energy out that they can, so
they end up doing things like feather destructive behavior and
they'll just pluck and fucking pluck until it bleeds. So
I mean that's one reason we do try to manage it.
(04:50):
It's actually like hormone injections that you can give to
manage that so it doesn't get to that point. But yeah,
I mean there's a balance of like copying everything that
is this in the wild and making sure they have
enough stimulation in Richmond, and uh, they have their their nighttime.
You know, they're supposed to have their cycle.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
All of that helps it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
But I mean, but it balance.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah. But if I if I reprimanded you every time
you masturbated, I.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Hope my mom's not listening.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
She probably is, by the way, I would I would
bet a billion dollars she's also masturbated in her life.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
How was your first call?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you doctor, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Do not or a shrinie would say, they're not interrupt
them or discourage them for masturbating. Although this study didn't
get into what she was saying. Where they what did
she call it? Where they pluck and pluck and pluck,
where they start like feather Like yeah, like this didn't
this didn't get into that, like you talking, that's blue balls.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
I'm reading through it now, and she definitely laid out
what seems to have been historically the approach. Yes, that
even vets, and she's a tech. If vets were telling
owners they should probably it. Well, it does actually say
fearing the animals might hurt themselves. So it doesn't give
you the details, but you should disrupt this behavior because
(06:24):
of what it could lead to.
Speaker 9 (06:26):
No, no, how lucky that she was an exotic animal
vet tech too.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It is lucky. No, it really is.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Some vets would even give the birds drugs or hormonal therapy.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
She said, like, you have to.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Give your bird shot so it doesn't masturbate.
Speaker 9 (06:40):
Or maybe is there something that you sprinkle into the
seeds like a powder.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Can't I just remove the perch?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No? And they well here's the other. Let me go
to line six. They got bird hi Elliet in the morning.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Rachel?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You a bird?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I did for twenty years? She lived for twenty years,
and she she did that. She masturbated all the time.
It was crazy. The first time we realized that, I
was like, what is she doing? And then it becomes
obvious it's oh, and that's all she did.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You know what they do say, if you've ever seen
a bird masturbate, you absolutely know what that bird is doing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't. I don't know that I've ever seen a
bird masturbait.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
You'll know.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And she made all kinds of noise too, So she
made this particular noise like she was panting or something,
and then her tail went up in the back and
it would be on her perch, which is not I
don't know how that would feel good. But anyway, to
each their own.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Hey, listen, ma'am, did she criticize you? I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
No, I guess not. But hey, that's why I said,
to each their own. If it was good, it was good.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It must have been.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Because it was all day long, and it doesn't. Then
they did, we should have got a perch maybe or
something that we just don't know A hard me this.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
He's like, we should get a purchase.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Let me ask you this though, like the female, because
I'm trying to understand, like I don't. First of all,
I have no idea how you tell the difference between
a female bird and a male bird.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I also have never owned a bird I have. I
have human friends.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I've heard that they have to be sexed by like
blood work or DNA. The only way I realized mine
was a female was because she laid egges out of nowhere.
I was like, oh, I didn't know they could do that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But if you have an.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
If you have a boy bird, they don't have like
a little pecker on them.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I don't think so that. I at least that's what
I was told when I wiped the vet or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
They told me they have. It's a blood cast that
has to.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Be done because they make it sound like they make
it sound like when they talk about male birds and
females and both of them chronically masturbate, but they made
it sound like the difference in how they masturbate, like listen,
the male bird isn't taking his little.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Claw and like, you know, stroke it like that, like
that's not going on. Like so I get that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's not like, look, mom, the parent's got a lipstick.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I understand that exactly. But they but it sounds.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Like they masturbate completely differently, and they almost make it
sound like the female kind of hops up that backside
a little bit and kind of rubs it up against
the perch.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And they made it sound.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Like the male kind of rubs like what would be
his front butt up against the up against the perch.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, so, I mean, I guess you described the female
the way that my bird did it. I know how
male birds do it, but yeah, you did describe that
exactly the way. You know, she would shake that up
and just.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, kind of learned from her mother, didn't it? All right?
Very good, very good? Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Sorry, oh, I know I should a master, but don't
reprimand the bird.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
In addition to toys or twigs, male birds may use
their owner's shoulder, hand or foot, so.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They will like just kind of yeah, kind of rub
up on that thing.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Now, keep to yourself phone.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Anyone who's visiting a friend or family member with a
bird is going to be watching for this because you
know what I'll.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Say this if a bird, like you go to a
friend's house, yeah, and they have a bird and it
lands on your shoulder right and you don't know, but
it starts it starts well now, but it starts rubbing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Are you supposed to let it be?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's just masturbating you are, according to this research, even
if it's on your shoulder.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Yes, says some birds, that is their primary uh means
of doing it. That shouldn't be advising owners to stop
birds doing this unless it's causing a problem like pro lapse.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh, where it's got a boner all the time.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
That would be like just like a dangling cloaca. Awesome,
Like the internals are external now.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh, it's like a hemorrhoid came popping out.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Hey, what's wrong with your bird?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (11:26):
That's just a bird hemorrhight?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Hey does it do this? What are you pointing out
this word?
Speaker 7 (11:36):
I don't know, Elliott.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I'll ask the next bird owner.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh you know what, that's a good one. Where where
am I going? Line four? Hi? Elliot in the morning? Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
This is Eddie?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Eddie your bird owner?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I am what do you got? I also have a
green seek knyor.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Right, very common in the exotic petrade.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
They're common. They're expensive, though, thousand bucks for a damn bird.
I was like, oh my goodness, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's a conjur is a thousand dollars?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
A thousand bucks?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Wow? Do you have a boy bird or a girl bird?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I have a boy bird only by blood that you
can't tell. There's no pecker there?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
How often? How often is it masturbating?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I would say probably about half the day. I try
to give it blue ball as much as possible. I
just don't like to see it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So, hey, does it is it always in a cajurd? Like?
Does it sometimes sit on your shoulder or your arm
or something? Like that.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Oh man, just sits on our shoulder, on our finger.
It lays with us asleep at night. Sometimes I'm just
afraid of you know, I'm fat, so I might crush it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The oh crush it? Not like I crush a hamburger.
You mean roll over like in like fat rolling?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Yeah, roll over and no more? Bird?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I got you? The bird sleeps with you. That's weird.
Speaker 9 (12:58):
I've never heard that.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yep, under a pillow like they like to almost suffocate themselves.
They'll go underneath your arm or.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Under that brother, they gonna get under that belly.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I don't know about the.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Hey, but when it's on your shoulder, your arm, or
your foot or whatever, or your pillow, does it Does
it masturbate?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Then absolutely not. I wouldn't let it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Why just out of curiosity? Why not?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
You have to I get a little nervous. I guess
I wouldn't let it happen?
Speaker 8 (13:30):
Can I ask carry?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Can? I?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Can I ask you this? This was the word I
wrote down.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
If a male bird master baits, does it ejaculate?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Oh? That? You know what? I don't know. That's a
good one. I have no clubt We're actually gonna go
see a bet on Friday for the first time, to
see if you know, ask him a couple of questions.
I can definitely ask that.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Ask him Elliott wants to know if my bird ejaculates
from all of the masturbation.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I will do that. I definitely will.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Hey, why are you why are you taking it to?
Why are you taking it to a veterinarian.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I'm too scared to clip the little nails though, and
my wife is too. She's like, yeah, let's just take
it to a professional first time and maybe they can
teach us they We're just gonna ask a couple questions,
because when he does get horny, he does start to
bite and it actually kind of hurts. You know, they're little,
but let him get ahold of your hand and it
does hurt.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Hey, listen to Beak's a beak, right, it's got to
crack shells and seeds and all kinds of stuff. Hey, yeah,
do me a favorite, give them give the bed and
ask about whether whether you know m.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
You want Eddy to call back?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
What happens too?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, Well, get him upon your shoulder.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Let let him sit there for a while, all right, brother.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I appreciate it, by the way, you know, like like
they will. Like dogs and cats, you can get spade
and neutered.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Do you do that with birds?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I bet you, because people try to discourage this kind
of behavior. Some we're seeking some sort of problem procedure
to calm the birds down.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, but they said let them go, let them go,
that's what I'm here, and let them get after.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
It says, uh, there have been cases of surgery to
completely desex birds.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That sounds bad.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
Yea.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Even the researcher here uh describes that as bonkers.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, no, like that sounds bad. Like birds? Got a bird?
Where am I going? Line one? Hi? Yoa in the morning.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Hey, how are you guys this morning?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I am well, thank you?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
How are you all right?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I had two male parakeets as a child, right, So obviously,
like I was at school during the day, so I
didn't see what they did during the day. But I
can tell you that they traumatizing, Like they would literally
screech for an hour straight doing each other.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So they would just masturbate like crazy at night.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
With each other. Yeah, they were in the same cage.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, I mean that's all cool. I mean that's the
famous circle, right, And so.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, the child that's very scary at night.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do you know maybe you would know this since you
had two birds? Did they ejaculate?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Not that I know of, there was, because I was
also the one who cleaned the cage every single week,
the only thing I can see.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, all right, that's fine, that's fine. So maybe they don't.
Maybe maybe they don't. But did they did you try
to discourage them from masturbating?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I would just tap on the cage and task them
very politely to be quiet because I was trying to sleep.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, ma'am. But you understand if I did that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Could you imagine me knocking on your door and telling
you to stop masturbating.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, but that's when I was, like when I was
old enough to do so, I was a child when I.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Had the birds, like they were adult birds, Like you
don't you don't stop that, You're supposed.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
To let it be.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Right now, I feel bad, but like at the time,
I didn't know any.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Better, right, all right, Very good, very good. That's a
fair answer. Fair answer.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Yes, ro Instagram. I had a Quaker parrot and he
would masturbate with this plastic peanut that we would put
real peanuts in. It was kind of like a puzzle
for him to get the treats. But he would just
masturbate with it all the time, and his feathers would
be flapping and he'd be screaming, and there'd be drooled
dripping from his mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I've done that, which.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Was really weird because they usually don't have any saliva.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Wait, birds don't have saliva.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
But we soon named the little toy missus peanut.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So he master bits on his food.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Well, it was like the canes and then you have
to like a treat out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That would be like that would be like like masturbating
using the container that your burger is in.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I'm also not putting a pastor, but I have I
have definitely drooled. And to answer your question that we're
gonna wait to see if the vet says anything about
the only thing I've seen about a seminal fluid. Oh God,
is that quail release a unique foam?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That would be awesome, awesome you might scare a date.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, no, but if that was natural.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Oh, I thought you meant like, it's just you didn't
tell I'm different than it was going to be a
pham party.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
How weird would that look.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Quail released a unique foam which is produced constantly around
the cloaca, regardless of the ejection of seamen and the
time of.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Day, so it's always foamy. How weird would that look?
You know what it's like? Like like like like when
you whenever you feel the sync up with like all
the soap and stuff to do dishes and you always
scoop a little on your hand and then and it blows.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
That's that's my penis. Here comes old foam dong, Hi,
Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
What's up, Elliott?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Hey, what's going on? Dude?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Man, I've got eight birds for you. So what do
you need to know?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, first question is why.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
I'm allergic to dogs and cats and horses.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you have eight birds to supplement that?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Well, yeah, my wife's a little crazy, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Hey, what what kind of birds do you have?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Two cockatiels and six parakeets?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Boys or girls?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Both?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Are they?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Can you put a boy bird and a girl bird
in a in a ken kent, not a kennel a
cage together?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah? You can.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Sometimes they know what they're doing. Sometimes they don't. Depend
Our birds have no flipping clue what they're doing so,
they they lay eggs, but do they master a lot? Yeah,
they're constantly humping toys and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Man, how have I gone my whole Well, I don't
own birds, but how have I gone my whole?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Wait?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Hold on, you've gone your whole life not realizing this
because the system has told people.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
To stop it, to stop it, to stop it. But
you need to let.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Them be that.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Like, it's sad for the birds that are all alone
with human beings. I feel like you need to get
more than one for those owners out there that don't
have other birds that want to be with their kind.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
But you know what they are there are. I mean,
let's let's let's make birds. Let's give them human qualities.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I mean, listen, there are times in your life where
you lived alone and you still mask rebated while you
were by yourself.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Well, I hear you. But at the same time, they're
a flock animal, not necessarily given them human qualities.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, No, But we are as people, we're not flock animals.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But we do enjoy community.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Yeah, we all like each other, that's right, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, No, But like, for example, if you go away
for the weekend and like I've always said, I've never
met a hotel room. I haven't masturbated in Wow, and
I'm by myself. Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But you know with those six birds, no seminal fluid.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Yeah, no, they're never anything like that. They're uh yeah.
They mostly just like sit in their dish and the
other one will sit on top of it and make
a lot of noise.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Diane sits in her dish.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Hey have you ever have you or your birds ever
drooled while masturbating.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I'm gonna go with no.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
All right, very good, very good.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I appreciate it. Oh, you might know the answer to this.
You don't get your birds fixed.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Though, right, No, no, no, we don't do that. And
the other thing is you can tell whether they're male
or female by the seer, which is like the little
nose piece above the beak. If the seer is colored, typically.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's a boy. If the seer is colored, it's a boy.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
So typically if it's like brown or dark or not pretty,
it would be a girl. If it's bright blue or
purple or whatever the color of the bird is, then
it would be a boy.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Nice little factoid. All right, very good, very good. I
appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Sir, thank you, But again, do not stop them from masturbating.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And it's not because they are in caged. Now we
realize birds in the wild, birds in the Nile get after.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
It may have told you to do that, but this
is where the findings are taking us in another direction.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
We have to be able to adapt in and switch.
Avian semen. God, that's my that's my new DJ name. Hey,
it's avian semen.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Contains a very small amount of seminal plasma, which is
the word I keep seeing being used instead of fluid
by the way, so they ejaculate instead of a large
fluid filled ejaculate. It is an exceptionally dense concentration of
sperm cells.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What does that mean.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
That it's like low volume, but.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But it's rich, so something does come out of.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
There apparently so well, it would have to where you
would never get pregnant. Okay, I mean, I gotta get
I gotta get this to that.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
It says that the small amount of fluid is stored
in a structure called the seminoal glomera, which is on
either side of the cloaca.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
What is that? What is it I'm seeing the what
is the cloacal kiss.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
That's the mating itself. That's how you transfer. It's just
pushing the cloacas together.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's also how I do fecal transplant for those with
Shigella
I would like to talk to an indoor bird owner. Now,
I got every I got everybody who's got chickens. I
got everybody who's got chickens. And they do say chickens
do it. But I just don't know if you would
see them or if it would be as noticeable as
somebody who has like a like a record in the
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living Yeah, like a regular indoor indoor.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Bird line too. Here we go, Hi, Elliet in the morning?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Is this me?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Who's this?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
This is Maria.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
I've been listening to you for pretty much my whole life.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well that's why.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
When did you start?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Ninety eight?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Ninety nine? But that's clothes, that's very kind nine, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Since ninety nine. This is the first time I've actually
called in and spoke to you. But yes, my family
and I have a green cheek conyer. It's like a small,
friendly pairrot, very popular in the pitch raid. What did
you want to know about them?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, let me ask you a question first, is do
you know male or female?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
You know if the bird's a boy or girl?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Female?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Female?
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Right?
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Female?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah? What is the And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I don't know based on my on my studies I
don't know if males or females do it more, But
how often is your bird masturbating?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Uh, it's pretty frequent. I don't know if females do
it more than males. But there are a lot of
things in their environment and things that their owners can
subconsciously do that will stimulate these things. There's also I'm
actually an exotic vet tech, so like exotic animal nurse,
so there's a whole bunch of things you can do
(01:47):
to regulate that the but it's it could be like
once a day, honestly, Like sometimes you pet them the
wrong way and they'll start basically humping you, and you
have to be stern end uh, you know, reprimand them
in some kind of way.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Let me ask you this about being let me ask
you this, and it's my understanding, and you would know this.
For a female, they kind of lift that like that
back end up and just start kind of like, yeah,
they do rubbing it almost like almost almost like a
woman sliding down a.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Banister, Diane to heat up dinner.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Sure, sure, but let me let me go back, let
me go back to something. Why do you reprimand them?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Oh, that's a good question. I mean you basically don't
want to reinforce that sexual behavior if they're not actually
going to mate. I mean, it's it's gross for us
on our end, but I mean there's there's no need
for that. And then it increases their like sexual stimulating
hormones and they get into breeding season and all of that,
(02:49):
they can they just get really aggressive and hormonal, and
it could just go down a bad road, right right, So.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know what, So here's here's why I asked.
Speaker 8 (02:58):
I was.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I was in my study.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
They were saying that bird keeper bird keepers excuse me,
are often advised to discourage.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, let me back up a step. I had no idea.
Birds masturbate like crazy, like crazy, And that's where they said.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It could be anything from parents to conyers to African
grays to cockatiles to chickens to turkeys. Like birds, birds
masturbate Diane like like their life depends on it. But
I guess here's where here's where we are right now, Birds,
bird keepers like you are often advised to discourage and
(03:40):
even punish birds for masturbating. However, a new study found
that the activity was more common in wild birds than
in captive birds, and that you should just let them
be because it used to be this belief that once
they were captive, like now because they can't.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Have what's the word, I'm like free range what is
not of a big bird term.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They can't have free range sex because there's not other
animals around, so that when they're inside, they just if
I can't, if I can't, if I can't have another bird,
I'll just do it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'll just knuckle it right. Yeah, So that was the belief.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But what they found is that in free range birds
they actually masturbate more than enclosed birds, and that you
should just let them be, let them be, let them
enjoy it, let them get after it.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, I mean sometimes they get so frustrated they'll they'll
take it out in other ways. Like a lot of
birds are super hormonal and they get aggressive and they
need to take this energy out that they can, so
they end up doing things like feather destructive behavior and
they'll just pluck and fucking pluck until it bleeds. So
I mean that's one reason we do try to manage it.
(04:50):
It's actually like hormone injections that you can give to
manage that so it doesn't get to that point. But yeah,
I mean there's a balance of like copying everything that
is this in the wild and making sure they have
enough stimulation in Richmond, and uh, they have their their nighttime.
You know, they're supposed to have their cycle.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
All of that helps it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
But I mean, but it balance.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah. But if I if I reprimanded you every time
you masturbated, I.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Hope my mom's not listening.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
She probably is, by the way, I would I would
bet a billion dollars she's also masturbated in her life.
Speaker 9 (05:26):
How was your first call?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
All right, very good, very good, Thank you doctor, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Do not or a shrinie would say, they're not interrupt
them or discourage them for masturbating. Although this study didn't
get into what she was saying. Where they what did
she call it? Where they pluck and pluck and pluck,
where they start like feather Like yeah, like this didn't
this didn't get into that, like you talking, that's blue balls.
Speaker 7 (05:59):
I'm reading through it now, and she definitely laid out
what seems to have been historically the approach. Yes, that
even vets, and she's a tech. If vets were telling
owners they should probably it. Well, it does actually say
fearing the animals might hurt themselves. So it doesn't give
you the details, but you should disrupt this behavior because
(06:24):
of what it could lead to.
Speaker 9 (06:26):
No, no, how lucky that she was an exotic animal
vet tech too.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It is lucky. No, it really is.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
Some vets would even give the birds drugs or hormonal therapy.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
She said, like, you have to.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Give your bird shot so it doesn't masturbate.
Speaker 9 (06:40):
Or maybe is there something that you sprinkle into the
seeds like a powder.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
Can't I just remove the perch?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No? And they well here's the other. Let me go
to line six. They got bird hi Elliet in the morning.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's this?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Rachel?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
You a bird?
Speaker 5 (07:02):
I did for twenty years? She lived for twenty years,
and she she did that. She masturbated all the time.
It was crazy. The first time we realized that, I
was like, what is she doing? And then it becomes
obvious it's oh, and that's all she did.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You know what they do say, if you've ever seen
a bird masturbate, you absolutely know what that bird is doing.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't. I don't know that I've ever seen a
bird masturbait.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
You'll know.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And she made all kinds of noise too, So she
made this particular noise like she was panting or something,
and then her tail went up in the back and
it would be on her perch, which is not I
don't know how that would feel good. But anyway, to
each their own.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Hey, listen, ma'am, did she criticize you? I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
No, I guess not. But hey, that's why I said,
to each their own. If it was good, it was good.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It must have been.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Because it was all day long, and it doesn't. Then
they did, we should have got a perch maybe or
something that we just don't know A hard me this.
Speaker 9 (08:03):
He's like, we should get a purchase.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Let me ask you this though, like the female, because
I'm trying to understand, like I don't. First of all,
I have no idea how you tell the difference between
a female bird and a male bird.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
I also have never owned a bird I have. I
have human friends.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I've heard that they have to be sexed by like
blood work or DNA. The only way I realized mine
was a female was because she laid egges out of nowhere.
I was like, oh, I didn't know they could do that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
But if you have an.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
If you have a boy bird, they don't have like
a little pecker on them.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I don't think so that. I at least that's what
I was told when I wiped the vet or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
They told me they have. It's a blood cast that
has to.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Be done because they make it sound like they make
it sound like when they talk about male birds and
females and both of them chronically masturbate, but they made
it sound like the difference in how they masturbate, like listen,
the male bird isn't taking his little.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Claw and like, you know, stroke it like that, like
that's not going on. Like so I get that.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
It's not like, look, mom, the parent's got a lipstick.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I understand that exactly. But they but it sounds.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Like they masturbate completely differently, and they almost make it
sound like the female kind of hops up that backside
a little bit and kind of rubs it up against
the perch.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
And they made it sound.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Like the male kind of rubs like what would be
his front butt up against the up against the perch.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, so, I mean, I guess you described the female
the way that my bird did it. I know how
male birds do it, but yeah, you did describe that
exactly the way. You know, she would shake that up
and just.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, kind of learned from her mother, didn't it? All right?
Very good, very good? Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Sorry, oh, I know I should a master, but don't
reprimand the bird.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
In addition to toys or twigs, male birds may use
their owner's shoulder, hand or foot, so.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They will like just kind of yeah, kind of rub
up on that thing.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
Now, keep to yourself phone.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
Anyone who's visiting a friend or family member with a
bird is going to be watching for this because you
know what I'll.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Say this if a bird, like you go to a
friend's house, yeah, and they have a bird and it
lands on your shoulder right and you don't know, but
it starts it starts well now, but it starts rubbing.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Are you supposed to let it be?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
It's just masturbating you are, according to this research, even
if it's on your shoulder.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Yes, says some birds, that is their primary uh means
of doing it. That shouldn't be advising owners to stop
birds doing this unless it's causing a problem like pro lapse.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh, where it's got a boner all the time.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
That would be like just like a dangling cloaca. Awesome,
Like the internals are external now.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Oh, it's like a hemorrhoid came popping out.
Speaker 9 (11:24):
Hey, what's wrong with your bird?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (11:26):
That's just a bird hemorrhight?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Hey does it do this? What are you pointing out
this word?
Speaker 7 (11:36):
I don't know, Elliott.
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I'll ask the next bird owner.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Oh you know what, that's a good one. Where where
am I going? Line four? Hi? Elliot in the morning? Yeah, Hi,
who's this?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
This is Eddie?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Eddie your bird owner?
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I am what do you got? I also have a
green seek knyor.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Right, very common in the exotic petrade.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
They're common. They're expensive, though, thousand bucks for a damn bird.
I was like, oh my goodness, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's a conjur is a thousand dollars?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
A thousand bucks?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Wow? Do you have a boy bird or a girl bird?
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I have a boy bird only by blood that you
can't tell. There's no pecker there?
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
How often? How often is it masturbating?
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I would say probably about half the day. I try
to give it blue ball as much as possible. I
just don't like to see it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So, hey, does it is it always in a cajurd? Like?
Does it sometimes sit on your shoulder or your arm
or something? Like that.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
Oh man, just sits on our shoulder, on our finger.
It lays with us asleep at night. Sometimes I'm just
afraid of you know, I'm fat, so I might crush it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
The oh crush it? Not like I crush a hamburger.
You mean roll over like in like fat rolling?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Yeah, roll over and no more? Bird?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I got you? The bird sleeps with you. That's weird.
Speaker 9 (12:58):
I've never heard that.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yep, under a pillow like they like to almost suffocate themselves.
They'll go underneath your arm or.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Under that brother, they gonna get under that belly.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
I don't know about the.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Hey, but when it's on your shoulder, your arm, or
your foot or whatever, or your pillow, does it Does
it masturbate?
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Then absolutely not. I wouldn't let it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Why just out of curiosity? Why not?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
You have to I get a little nervous. I guess
I wouldn't let it happen?
Speaker 8 (13:30):
Can I ask carry?
Speaker 6 (13:31):
Can? I?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Can I ask you this? This was the word I
wrote down.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
If a male bird master baits, does it ejaculate?
Speaker 6 (13:41):
Oh? That? You know what? I don't know. That's a
good one. I have no clubt We're actually gonna go
see a bet on Friday for the first time, to
see if you know, ask him a couple of questions.
I can definitely ask that.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Ask him Elliott wants to know if my bird ejaculates
from all of the masturbation.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
I will do that. I definitely will.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Hey, why are you why are you taking it to?
Why are you taking it to a veterinarian.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
I'm too scared to clip the little nails though, and
my wife is too. She's like, yeah, let's just take
it to a professional first time and maybe they can
teach us they We're just gonna ask a couple questions,
because when he does get horny, he does start to
bite and it actually kind of hurts. You know, they're little,
but let him get ahold of your hand and it
does hurt.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Hey, listen to Beak's a beak, right, it's got to
crack shells and seeds and all kinds of stuff. Hey, yeah,
do me a favorite, give them give the bed and
ask about whether whether you know m.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
You want Eddy to call back?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
What happens too?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, Well, get him upon your shoulder.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Let let him sit there for a while, all right, brother.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I appreciate it, by the way, you know, like like
they will. Like dogs and cats, you can get spade
and neutered.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Do you do that with birds?
Speaker 7 (14:54):
I bet you, because people try to discourage this kind
of behavior. Some we're seeking some sort of problem procedure
to calm the birds down.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, but they said let them go, let them go,
that's what I'm here, and let them get after.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
It says, uh, there have been cases of surgery to
completely desex birds.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
That sounds bad.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
Yea.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
Even the researcher here uh describes that as bonkers.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, no, like that sounds bad. Like birds? Got a bird?
Where am I going? Line one? Hi? Yoa in the morning.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Hey, how are you guys this morning?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I am well, thank you?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
How are you all right?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
I had two male parakeets as a child, right, So obviously,
like I was at school during the day, so I
didn't see what they did during the day. But I
can tell you that they traumatizing, Like they would literally
screech for an hour straight doing each other.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So they would just masturbate like crazy at night.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
With each other. Yeah, they were in the same cage.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, I mean that's all cool. I mean that's the
famous circle, right, And so.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yeah, the child that's very scary at night.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do you know maybe you would know this since you
had two birds? Did they ejaculate?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Not that I know of, there was, because I was
also the one who cleaned the cage every single week,
the only thing I can see.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, all right, that's fine, that's fine. So maybe they don't.
Maybe maybe they don't. But did they did you try
to discourage them from masturbating?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I would just tap on the cage and task them
very politely to be quiet because I was trying to sleep.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, ma'am. But you understand if I did that.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Could you imagine me knocking on your door and telling
you to stop masturbating.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, but that's when I was, like when I was
old enough to do so, I was a child when I.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Had the birds, like they were adult birds, Like you
don't you don't stop that, You're supposed.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
To let it be.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Right now, I feel bad, but like at the time,
I didn't know any.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Better, right, all right, Very good, very good. That's a
fair answer. Fair answer.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
Yes, ro Instagram. I had a Quaker parrot and he
would masturbate with this plastic peanut that we would put
real peanuts in. It was kind of like a puzzle
for him to get the treats. But he would just
masturbate with it all the time, and his feathers would
be flapping and he'd be screaming, and there'd be drooled
dripping from his mouth.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I've done that, which.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Was really weird because they usually don't have any saliva.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Wait, birds don't have saliva.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
But we soon named the little toy missus peanut.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
So he master bits on his food.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
Well, it was like the canes and then you have
to like a treat out of it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
That would be like that would be like like masturbating
using the container that your burger is in.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I'm also not putting a pastor, but I have I
have definitely drooled. And to answer your question that we're
gonna wait to see if the vet says anything about
the only thing I've seen about a seminal fluid. Oh God,
is that quail release a unique foam?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That would be awesome, awesome you might scare a date.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Well, no, but if that was natural.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Oh, I thought you meant like, it's just you didn't
tell I'm different than it was going to be a
pham party.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
How weird would that look.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
Quail released a unique foam which is produced constantly around
the cloaca, regardless of the ejection of seamen and the
time of.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Day, so it's always foamy. How weird would that look?
You know what it's like? Like like like like when
you whenever you feel the sync up with like all
the soap and stuff to do dishes and you always
scoop a little on your hand and then and it blows.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
That's that's my penis. Here comes old foam dong, Hi,
Ellie in the morning.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
What's up, Elliott?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Hey, what's going on? Dude?
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (19:33):
Man, I've got eight birds for you. So what do
you need to know?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Well, first question is why.
Speaker 8 (19:40):
I'm allergic to dogs and cats and horses.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So you have eight birds to supplement that?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Well, yeah, my wife's a little crazy, no kidding.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Hey, what what kind of birds do you have?
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Two cockatiels and six parakeets?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Boys or girls?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Both?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Are they?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Can you put a boy bird and a girl bird
in a in a ken kent, not a kennel a
cage together?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah? You can.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
Sometimes they know what they're doing. Sometimes they don't. Depend
Our birds have no flipping clue what they're doing so,
they they lay eggs, but do they master a lot? Yeah,
they're constantly humping toys and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Man, how have I gone my whole Well, I don't
own birds, but how have I gone my whole?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Wait?
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Hold on, you've gone your whole life not realizing this
because the system has told people.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
To stop it, to stop it, to stop it. But
you need to let.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Them be that.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
Like, it's sad for the birds that are all alone
with human beings. I feel like you need to get
more than one for those owners out there that don't
have other birds that want to be with their kind.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
But you know what they are there are. I mean,
let's let's let's make birds. Let's give them human qualities.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I mean, listen, there are times in your life where
you lived alone and you still mask rebated while you
were by yourself.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Well, I hear you. But at the same time, they're
a flock animal, not necessarily given them human qualities.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Right, No, But we are as people, we're not flock animals.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
But we do enjoy community.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Yeah, we all like each other, that's right, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, No, But like, for example, if you go away
for the weekend and like I've always said, I've never
met a hotel room. I haven't masturbated in Wow, and
I'm by myself. Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
But you know with those six birds, no seminal fluid.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Yeah, no, they're never anything like that. They're uh yeah.
They mostly just like sit in their dish and the
other one will sit on top of it and make
a lot of noise.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Diane sits in her dish.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Hey have you ever have you or your birds ever
drooled while masturbating.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
I'm gonna go with no.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
All right, very good, very good.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
I appreciate it. Oh, you might know the answer to this.
You don't get your birds fixed.
Speaker 8 (22:03):
Though, right, No, no, no, we don't do that. And
the other thing is you can tell whether they're male
or female by the seer, which is like the little
nose piece above the beak. If the seer is colored, typically.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It's a boy. If the seer is colored, it's a boy.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
So typically if it's like brown or dark or not pretty,
it would be a girl. If it's bright blue or
purple or whatever the color of the bird is, then
it would be a boy.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Nice little factoid. All right, very good, very good. I
appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Sir, thank you, But again, do not stop them from masturbating.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
And it's not because they are in caged. Now we
realize birds in the wild, birds in the Nile get after.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
It may have told you to do that, but this
is where the findings are taking us in another direction.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
We have to be able to adapt in and switch.
Avian semen. God, that's my that's my new DJ name. Hey,
it's avian semen.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Contains a very small amount of seminal plasma, which is
the word I keep seeing being used instead of fluid
by the way, so they ejaculate instead of a large
fluid filled ejaculate. It is an exceptionally dense concentration of
sperm cells.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
What does that mean.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
That it's like low volume, but.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
But it's rich, so something does come out of.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
There apparently so well, it would have to where you
would never get pregnant. Okay, I mean, I gotta get
I gotta get this to that.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
It says that the small amount of fluid is stored
in a structure called the seminoal glomera, which is on
either side of the cloaca.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
What is that? What is it I'm seeing the what
is the cloacal kiss.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
That's the mating itself. That's how you transfer. It's just
pushing the cloacas together.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
That's also how I do fecal transplant for those with
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