Summer Album/Winter Album
**One of The Atlantic's 20 Best Podcasts** On this podcast we believe that all albums are either summer albums or winter albums. But what defines them? The lyrics, the music, your personal relationship with the record? Summer Album/Winter Album is a musical debate podcast with Jody Avirgan (538, 30 for 30, Radiotopia) and Craig Finn (The Hold Steady). Each episode, Jody and Craig offer their opening arguments, and then with the help of a guest, explore one of the greatest records of all time. Then: a verdict from the artist. New episodes twice a month.
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July 16, 2026 • 71 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Workingman's Dead. 1970.
Our special guest: MC Taylor of Hiss Golden Messenger
Craig Finn is arguing Winter, Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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July 16, 2026 • 70 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Ritual de lo Habitual. 1990.
Our special guest: Hamilton Leithauser of The Walkmen.
Craig Finn is arguing Summer, Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter.
Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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June 5, 2026 • 65 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Tusk. 1979.
Our special guest: Poet and essayist Hanif Abdurraqib.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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May 22, 2026 • 60 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Nevermind. 1991.
Our special guests: Diallo Riddle & Luxxury of the One Song podcast.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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May 12, 2026 • 68 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: White Light / White Heat. 1968.
Our special guests: Ian & Evan of the Jokermen podcast.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer.
Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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April 24, 2026 • 71 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Pink Moon. Nick Drake. 1972.
Our special guest: Amelia Heath of Sylvan Esso, Mountain Man, and more.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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April 10, 2026 • 76 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: The Joshua Tree. U2. 1987.
Our special guest: music journalist Rob Sheffield. Check out his latest book on Taylor Swift and his work at Rolling Stone.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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March 27, 2026 • 67 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Dragon New Warm Mountain I Believe In You. Big Thief. 2022.
Our special guest: musician Valerie June.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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March 5, 2026 • 47 mins
It's March 5th! Which means it's "Modern Vampires Of The City" day, since that is the date in late winter that Ezra Koenig pinned his band's record to. So in a new yearly tradition, we bring you our episode about MVOTC again -- but not before a special announcement about what's coming next for Summer Album / Winter Album!
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July 10, 2025 • 66 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Blonde. Frank Ocean 2016.
Our special guest: Sam Sanders, host of The Sam Sanders Show and Vibe Check
Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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June 10, 2025 • 59 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Is This It? The Strokes. 2001.
Our special guest: Jack Coyne, host of Trackstar and Public Opinion.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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May 23, 2025 • 69 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: "Norman Fucking Rockwell!" Lana Del Rey. 2019.
Our special guest: Avery Trufelman, host of Articles of Interest
Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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May 2, 2025 • 55 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: "Slanted and Enchanted." Pavement. 1992.
Our special guest: Yasi Salek, host of BandSplain.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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April 18, 2025 • 57 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Court and Spark. Joni Mitchell. 1974.
Our special guest: Tim Heidecker, musician and host of Office Hours, On Cinema, and lots more.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
Special thanks to Carmel Holt. Be sure to check out "The Road To Joni" from Sheroes.
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April 14, 2025 • 24 mins
Between full episodes, we'll bring you quick conversations with some of our favorite music people -- rapid reactions to a bunch of classic albums: Summer or Winter.
Today, a special chat between Jody and Craig about Craig's new album "Always Been" -- Craig talks through some of the records that inspired his new work, and renders a final verdict: Summer or Winter.
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April 3, 2025 • 58 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: If You're Feeling Sinister. Belle and Sebastian. 1996.
Our special guest: Jon Ronson
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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March 28, 2025 • 8 mins
Between full episodes, we'll bring you quick conversations with some of our favorite music people -- rapid reactions to a bunch of classic albums: Summer or Winter.
Today, Walter Martin of The Walkmen, lots of great solo projects, and the Walter Martin Radio Hour, which you can find on substack.
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March 21, 2025 • 59 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Graceland. Paul Simon. 1986.
Our special guest: Malcolm Gladwell
Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
Check out Malcolm's series with Paul Simon "Miracle and Wonder"
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Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Modern Vampires Of The City. Vampire Weekend. 2013.
Our special guest: Amanda Petrusich of The New Yorker.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer.
Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
This episode was recorded live at the On Air Fest in Brooklyn.
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February 21, 2025 • 54 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: The Lonesome Crowded West. Modest Mouse. 1997. Our special guest: Kevin Morby.
Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer.
Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first.
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