Summer Album/Winter Album

Summer Album/Winter Album

On this podcast we believe that all albums are either summer albums or winter albums. But what defines them? The lyrics, the music, your personal relationship with the record? Summer Album/Winter Album is a musical debate podcast with Jody Avirgan (538, 30 for 30, Radiotopia) and Craig Finn (The Hold Steady). Each episode, Jody and Craig offer their opening arguments, and then with the help of a guest, explore one of the greatest records of all time. Then: a verdict from the artist. New episodes twice a month.

Episodes

Frank Ocean's "Blonde" with Sam Sanders

July 10, 2025 • 66 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Blonde. Frank Ocean 2016. Our special guest: Sam Sanders, host of The Sam Sanders Show and Vibe Check Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer. Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Weigh in and find lots more on ⁠⁠instagram⁠⁠, and clips on our ⁠⁠youtube⁠⁠ page. Get in touch through ⁠⁠our website⁠⁠.
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The Strokes' "Is This It?" with Jack Coyne

June 10, 2025 • 58 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Is This It? The Strokes. 2001. Our special guest: Jack Coyne, host of Trackstar and Public Opinion. Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter. Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Weigh in and find lots more on ⁠instagram⁠, and clips on our ⁠youtube⁠ page. Get in touch through ⁠our website⁠.
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Lana Del Rey's "Norman F***ing Rockwell" with Avery Trufelman

May 23, 2025 • 69 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: "Norman Fucking Rockwell!" Lana Del Rey. 2019. Our special guest: Avery Trufelman, host of Articles of Interest Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer. Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Weigh in and find lots more on ⁠⁠instagram⁠⁠, and clips on our ⁠⁠youtube⁠⁠ page. Get in touch through ⁠⁠our website⁠⁠.
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Pavement's "Slanted and Enchanted" with Yasi Salek

May 2, 2025 • 55 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: "Slanted and Enchanted." Pavement. 1992. Our special guest: Yasi Salek, host of ⁠BandSplain⁠. Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer. Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Weigh in and find lots more on ⁠instagram⁠, and clips on our ⁠youtube⁠ page. Get in touch through ⁠our website⁠.
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Joni Mitchell's "Court and Spark" with Tim Heidecker

April 18, 2025 • 57 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Court and Spark. Joni Mitchell. 1974. Our special guest: Tim Heidecker, musician and host of Office Hours, On Cinema, and lots more. Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter. Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Special thanks to Carmel Holt. Be sure to check out "The Road To Joni" from Sheroes. Weigh in and find lots more on instagram, and clips on our you...
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Is Craig's New Record A Summer Album Or Winter Album?! (Rapid Fire)

April 14, 2025 • 24 mins
Between full episodes, we'll bring you quick conversations with some of our favorite music people -- rapid reactions to a bunch of classic albums: Summer or Winter. Today, a special chat between Jody and Craig about Craig's new album "Always Been" -- Craig talks through some of the records that inspired his new work, and renders a final verdict: Summer or Winter. More soon!
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Belle and Sebastian's "If You're Feeling Sinister" with Jon Ronson

April 3, 2025 • 57 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: If You're Feeling Sinister. Belle and Sebastian. 1996. Our special guest: Jon Ronson Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter. Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Weigh in and find lots more on instagram, and clips on our youtube page. Get in touch through our website.
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Walter Martin on Wilco, Bruce, Outkast, and Donovan (Rapid Fire)

March 28, 2025 • 8 mins
Between full episodes, we'll bring you quick conversations with some of our favorite music people -- rapid reactions to a bunch of classic albums: Summer or Winter. Today, Walter Martin of The Walkmen, lots of great solo projects, and the Walter Martin Radio Hour, which you can find on substack. More soon!
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Paul Simon's "Graceland" with Malcolm Gladwell

March 21, 2025 • 58 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Graceland. Paul Simon. 1986. Our special guest: Malcolm Gladwell Jody Avirgan is arguing Summer, Craig Finn is arguing Winter. Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Check out Malcolm's series with Paul Simon "Miracle and Wonder" Weigh in and find lots more on instagram, and clips on our youtube page. Get in touch through our website.
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Vampire Weekend's "Modern Vampires Of The City" with Amanda Petrusich (Live from On Air Fest)

March 4, 2025 • 46 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: Modern Vampires Of The City. Vampire Weekend. 2013.  Our special guest: Amanda Petrusich of The New Yorker. Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer. Craig won the coin toss. He is presenting first. This episode was recorded live at the On Air Fest in Brooklyn. Weigh in and find lots more on instagram, and clips on our youtube page. Get in touch through our website.
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Modest Mouse's "The Lonesome Crowded West" with Kevin Morby

February 21, 2025 • 54 mins
Tonight on Summer Album / Winter Album: The Lonesome Crowded West. Modest Mouse. 1997. Our special guest: Kevin Morby. Jody Avirgan is arguing Winter, Craig Finn is arguing Summer. Jody won the coin toss. He is presenting first. Weigh in and find lots more on instagram, and clips on our youtube page. Get in touch through our website.
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Introducing: Summer Album/Winter Album

February 10, 2025 • 2 mins
A new musical debate podcast from Jody Avirgan and Craig Finn.
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