Reel Animals Fishing Show Sunday 08-10-25

Reel Animals Fishing Show - Sunday August 10, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is the Ta Mahoney Company Real Animals Radio Show
presented by Contender Boats and Pro Marine.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Now Here to chart today's course.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Your hosts Captain's Mike Anderson, Ben Marshall and the Legend
Mike Mahoney.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Good Morning ninety five three WDAE at AM six twenty.
Hope your Sunday morning is getting off to a blessed start.
I know it's looking a little weathery out there.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's been weathery for a couple of days. It's just
an eighty percent chance. You don't have much wind. It
is double digits ten mile an hour this morning, then
coming into at about thirteen probably out of the southeast.
Those storms are offshore. They are offshore yesterday. You know,

(01:00):
I called the show yesterday. I guess I got to
start looking at mill of bars and stuff because Dylan
talks about and I looked at the storms because he
liked to talk about the storms and the one that
may develop. They're talking about it coming towards, you know,
maybe towards Jacksonville, and the models have it turning north

(01:21):
so far. But I mean September's coming, guys, and that's
that's when it gets really ugly. But it was gorgeous.
Had just a ball yesterday. Rooster invited me down just
to just to play and never sweated. You know, it's
great to show up somebody's house seven thirty in the morning.

(01:42):
They got a biscuit and they was frying an egg
to put on my biscuit.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Then he just walks. Yeah. Then you just walk out back.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
And getting the buddies there listening, getting the pontoon boat
and we went fishing. The trout fishing was phenomenal. The
storms sprinted us a little bit. It and from the
plan from the beginning, and I have to watch my
buddy Rooster, but the plan from the beginning was to
be able to get back very quickly from where we were.

(02:10):
And it was nice out. The storms never got us.
The trout fishing was on fire. And uh then we
fished bridges and went to glotties and got some frozen
cut bait and we just fished. We caught fish the
whole time. I mean not necessarily. It wasn't too many

(02:31):
out there. It wasn't keep any Uh Rooster keeps fish fresh. Well,
he didn't, and that's what he said. I said, I've
got He said, you want these, and I said no,
I've got some fish in the freezer. He goes, No,
these fish aren't gonna get frozen. They're gonna be eaten
fresh or not at all. Sure, So he had some
mango snapper and trout. The trout were healthy, you know,

(02:52):
it's just the difference of being on a healthy grass flat.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Did you catch any silvers or just just a lot
of silver trotting?

Speaker 2 (02:59):
But I tell you, the comrades their bat it's just awful.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
You can't catch a try out, you know, undersize and
let it go to the camradant. They have five or
six of them around us.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
You never hear anybody talking about them either. They just
protected and eat whatever they want. It's ridiculous ate them off.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I mean even the pinfish that I catch by a
by product, they they'll eat them.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, that's what they do.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
But the weather is just the weather's cloudy. If if
you can be smart, I mean, I'm pretty sure Jim
Fogel wouldn't tell you to go out, don't go off shore.
I mean you could see that. But the wind was
nice breeze, and it was cloudy.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Breeze helps. Right now, I can tell you that it's
warm out.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
There, so it wasn't bad.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Today's supposed to be a little, I think, a little
rainier than yesterday.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I think I saw so eighty percent is you know,
seventy but eighty you're there.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, you're probably gonna get wet. And oh and by
the way, did have a Duffy cheeseburger? Did you? Oh?
There you go. I don't blame that. Duffie's is open
and rocking and that's a beautiful thing. Our weather update
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(04:35):
I had to go pick up the rods for the
Junior Pro Staff Award ceremony for the for the summer
tournament there and that was pretty cool. I picked a
bad weekend. We didn't have great participation. I have to
apologize to the parents.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Well obviously right it starts and you can see it on.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
My last vacations. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And I taught to some people last week that ended
up going by the malls or Walmart and just turned
around a walk out.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
They said, I heard it.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Was great, but it was very It's very obvious on
Anne Maria.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
It was school's still starting, yep.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
And then families or parents are focused on that and not.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Tomorrow Tomorrow morning's commute. If you have to drive into work,
make sure you leave early. And while you're at it,
just continue to cross Hillsborough County with a great job
they've done in managing the growth. Tomorrow morning it will
go to Helena Basket quickly. Don't be ugly, but that's
what we do. And you know what that means. Though,

(05:37):
we're getting closer to deer season. Bucks game Saturday night
means we're closer to deer season.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
I agree. Yeah, I been thinking about it for a
couple of weeks. Yeah, it's no doubt. Well, I was
up there a week ago there they and they were there.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, beautiful thing.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Do you want to velvet?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
You know? I didn't.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I didn't. I didn't see a horn. I saw a
lot of deer, but I didn't see a horn. But
I was telling Mike, one of the neighbors down there,
has got them bedding down in his mode field in
front of his beautiful home on the Flint River, and
he said, the bucks are all snuggled up. It's funny.
They they'll do that all the way to the rut.
And we had pictures last year of fifteen bucks by

(06:22):
one feeder. Now, not all their heads in a feeder,
but I mean, if you blow up and look in
the background in the bucks, they just they're bachelors and
they're just hanging out, especially the young ones. But come about,
you know, late the end of October first and November,
they don't like each other anymore, right, not friends.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Game changes yet, game changes, game changes. So yeah, it's
that time of year. Water timeps hopefully will start to
cool down. The heavy rains definitely cool the water down
some this week, which needed to happen. I was reading
ninety three at one point, but the heavy rains helped
bring it down some so it didn't help my bite
around for so do all that much. The trout bite

(07:02):
was still okay, you could catch trout. There was some mackerels,
some ladyfish, but uh, the red fish bite was tough.
We caught a few, but you know, it's just hot.
And one of them we had the mango staffer. Yeah,
fish bridges and fished around the Marinas and you know,
Biminy Bay and just stayed out of we We just

(07:23):
went fishing. There's some sea walls and some mangrove drop
offs and we cut bait.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Everything was went to glates and got they were he
got a bag of frozen sardines were they were Spanish sardines.
It's real obvious, but just cut them up on the
back deck and sat in a little chair on the
back of a pontoon boat. Almost couldn't keep two rods
because they just fly out of the boat. I just
you know, not wasn't my honies, wahoo or yellow fin.

(07:53):
It was just fish. I was just catching fish.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I struck out all that this week, did you Yeah,
I want to be On Wednesday, we left out early
and went to some deep water and just tried to
hit the home run. Didn't happen, but got our snapper,
so that was good. But you know, one thing I
learned is everybody talks about downsizing your bait right and

(08:16):
your line and your bait and your hook, and made
me a believer. We went out there and good shows
of fish, and I usually don't you know it's like
small bait. If you tell me, well, they're hitting small bait,
well I'll still drop a big bait down sure, because
I'd like to get that big one, that one that
you know, something different down there to make him feed.

(08:37):
And we worked hard. I can tell you that we
worked hard out there. Tons of the show was incredible
below the water on the machine, but just not getting
any hits. And Mark steps down to about fifty pound
floor carbon with a smaller hook and boom we start
catching them. But you know, you catch about five or

(08:58):
six and just like you hear from every buddy, the
sharks move in and we had our limit. We only
had a couple of guys on the boat. So once
we hit you know, four fish, I caught two and
my partner caught two and kept them.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
We were out of there.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
They were just you know, the sharks start moving in.
There's nothing you can really do about it. Yeah, but
it was a good day. Spent all day out there.
The storm stayed inland. We were about sixty miles out
and turned the radar on on Wednesday, and of course
it looked like the beach is big red blob on
the beaches and we were like, well, that won't be

(09:34):
there when we get back. Something else maybe, but that
particular storm and it worked out good. Rolled in the
past probably six thirty seven o'clock past the grill and
all the storms were away from us. We ran too
the marina, cleaned a few fish, and went on home.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Where does Mark ronho a.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Marine Max over there in Gulfport, really nice marina. I
saw for the first time in the marina. Was I
hear some humming noise, you know when I'm getting ready
and putting stuff on the boat and throwing trash away.
And it's like a big aerator they have over there
that runs across the mouth of the canal that goes
into their marina. It kind of blocks the marina, but

(10:18):
what it's supposed to do is hold all the grass
out of there, you know, when it comes back in
those canals and of course gets inside a marina. We
all know that's a nightmare and it starts stinking and
all that kind of stuff. But you know, going across
the opening of the marina, just like tons of bubbles,
And that's what I asked him, like, man, is that
what that machine's doing? He goes, yeah, it keeps the
grass out, which I thought.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Was I've never seen that. I tell you something that
was just hobb.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
It doesn't hurt. Adding coming to interrupt you probably doesn't hurt.
Adding those bubbles.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, I was about to say that bait motel.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
I agree. Yeah, a little extra oxygen back to those
canals where it gets depleted big time.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
How many times over the years guys come in to
pick you up at Odin and they're ready to get
out of there in the summer as fast as possible
so they don't lose their.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Ingle coolers those of you don't know. They make those now,
the rechargeable you know aer raiders right, and they make
them pretty high capacity. I bought the big ones this time.
I usually buy two a season, sometimes run doubles. I've
been able to get away with just one so far
and then just not choking the well out. You know,

(11:25):
the bite hasn't been crazy good anyway. So it's not
like you're chumming up acres and.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Fishing to get pretty much always end up, you know,
more relocate. Yeah, there's three hundred more.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
In there than you needed. Anybody. Everybody just does that.
Ingle Coolers makes now aer raitors that are pretty snazzy.
They're pretty good. Yeah, they work really good.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
So but what I was gonna mention was, you know,
I left the house at six and loots by six forty,
crossing the Skyway, and it's people. People are all over
the fishing piers. Oh I mean, I mean it's not
sold out out, but I'm talking about half to sixty
percent full.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
We're out there at daylight. It's a beautiful thing. Kayakers
are out all week. We had jet skiers, we had boats,
we had kayakers. It's a beautiful place to live and
be from. We're talking fishing here, going to be here
until nine o'clock. Phone lines are open here one eighty
eight five four six four six twenty. We're gonna hear
from captains for Clean Water here at eight o'clock and

(12:25):
talk a little bit about this big rock mine going
in down in the south end of Florida.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
There I enjoyed that yesterday. I mean that was good.
I wanted to hear their side of it.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Yeah, and we're gonna hear their side of it again.
I want to bring that to you guys, so you
guys could hear all that. So we'll check in with
Captain Chris Whitman here at eight o'clock. Hopefully we'll hear
from you as well again. One eighty eight five four
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phones here. Let's check in with Donald in loots some
but he's in the kayak somewhere. Are you in the
kayak somewhere.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Now.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
I'm in the kitchen right now making some coffee.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Kayak kitchen. They both start with a K.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
I guess got a galley on the kayak.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
I've actually brought a small little grill in my kayak,
going a paddle over to Kaladisi or whatever and just
sit on the beach gri some hot dogs.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
Nice snug Yeah, nice, yep.

Speaker 6 (15:00):
So yesterday was the Junior Pro Staff tournament meeting and
Geler gyms, and so I got off the water yesterday.
I launched about down right after six it's whatever it was,
and got off the water at nine, and uh loaded
up and head on over and just as soon as

(15:21):
I walk in to the back there, yeah here Henry McIntyre,
It's like, wow, that was cool. That was like perfect timing.
I just want to thank you, Mike for all that
you do, you know, for Tampa Bay, for all of us.
We are just so blessed to have so many great people,
you know here in the area, you know, captain's guides

(15:44):
and other people just you know, helping out and with
our waters and you know, getting these kids out fishing.
It's just it's just awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Less to be able to do it. Brother, I appreciate it.
We got great partners Yamaha and c CIA Florida and
bobay Ras and the work that Jim Bickle put in
to get that whole area cleaned up and ready for us,
for the kids over there at Gator Gyms, you know
him with the gift certificates and all that stuff. Was
it's just it's it's really special. So it's it's a

(16:15):
it's a a community coming together to you know, put
it all together. So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Yeah, great, Yeah, absolutely. When when Henry and I were
camping at Fortssoto back in July, we went to Gator
Gyms twice, and uh, you know, Henry's looking at the alligator.
It's the same gator that he was sitting on when
it was over a safety beach when he was four

(16:41):
and they did that breakfast thing there. I don't know
if you remember that. It was the first time he
saw Henry.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, I remember we used to do breakfast at Gator Gyms.
Oh yeah, that was that.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Was pretty special. And uh and we sort of remembered
the gator and we did see Jim and I sort
Jim yesterday and so it was good to see him too.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, he does a lot of stuff for the community too,
so we're blessed to be able to do it. Donald,
and that was cool. I called out Henry's name and
turned around and there was Donald standing there. Henry didn't
make it, obviously. He's up in Carolina, South Carolina, but.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
In Texas, Texas.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
So I thought he was still in South Carolina.

Speaker 6 (17:21):
Now no, he got restationed to Texas. He's in San Antonio,
my son and so they got you know, they they
were in Charleston, then they went to Memphis. So now
they're in Texas, but hopefully it'll be in Florida soon.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, good call, brother. We appreciate you, Donald, and it
was great seeing the YESJA appreciate your support of the
Junior Pro staff and all that getting Henry in good stuff.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yes, yes, it is great stuff. What you do. Appreciate it. Hey,
you guys take yours, stay safe and tight lines and
God bless everyone take care.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
If there's a nicer person on the planet, I haven't
met him. I agree, dude, such a good human. Let's
go check in with the beautiful Florida Keys. Get a
report from Big Pine Key Captain Mike Perry, Michael, how
are you brother?

Speaker 8 (18:10):
Hey guys, how y'all doing today?

Speaker 4 (18:12):
Doing great?

Speaker 3 (18:13):
But all right. We've talked about food three or four
times and deer hunting and fishing. We're good.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
Oh Ben, what would the trip be if you don't
go to go have a burger at Duffy's Man. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yeah, the highlight of a fishing trip. I went to Duffy's.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
It's been there forever.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's a work. It's not just food, it's a work
of art. It's just yes and then and then I
also got to two pints or quarts of navy bean soup.
They come and my wife was very happy about it.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Have you ever seen have you ever think about this?
I want the I want the listeners to just, for
a minute, just step inside your brain and just go
back to the time you saw the sexiest, the most
delicious looking glazed doughnut you've ever seen in your life.
That's Ben's face as he dove into thinking about Duffy's

(19:12):
right over. He glazed over du Yep, it's all food.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
I'm in Big pine Key and I dream of Duffy's Man,
because I was what four and four miles away? Oh,
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Nobody that knows me down there, including my wife and
everybody else, asked, are we going to Duffe's while we're here?
Nobody even asked.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
We go all the time. Every time we're on the island,
we go to Duffy's as well. It's amazing. Yeah, no doubt.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
Well, the fishing's been good. I had my annual trip.
I have some very very very important special clients that
they take this time every year. They come to the keys.
If you allow me just one minute to explain, I
was a sophomore at Manatee High School and I went
to school one day to finish a term paper, and

(20:03):
very long story short, I rescued. I jumped into a
house that was fully engulfed in fire and pulled two
children and a father out of a fire. I was
on the front page of every newspaper, White House, State,
all the politicians, everybody. It was my fifteen minutes of
thing that lasted like a month. And little did I

(20:25):
know that the guy was a fisherman. He was a
bass fisherman, and he was a trucker out of the
Port Manatee. Well, now he owns one of the trucking
companies that goes out of the port and they come
down every year and they're like, what are we going
to do this year. I'm like, hey, whatever you guys
want to catch, we'll try and catch it. Well, we

(20:48):
got into some big mangos yesterday, like seven eight nine
pounds or some big ones, and they were hitting live pinfish,
I had white bait, I had I even bally hooped
up some live bally who and I said, we're going
to put the long leaders out and we got several mutton, snapper,

(21:11):
yellow tail and uh, it was the first trip that
I actually had people say, you know what, we're not
interested in catching mahi this year. We've done the mahy
thing over and over and over again. So we basically
hit their We hit the reef and we just caught
all kinds of everything. It was a mixed bag, but
the mangoes and the muttons and the yellow tails. They

(21:36):
that's good eating right there. And I packed it all
up for him and they'll be heading back this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (21:41):
But back to Bradenson, it sounds like the fishing was
on fire.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
It was.

Speaker 8 (21:48):
It was the fishing is good.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Do you say that to them? When you're on the boat.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
No statement.

Speaker 8 (22:00):
I just got that. I am now yeah that And
I look when people bring it up that I meet
that remember it. You know, you could see it like
Ben glaze is over about food. I don't get to
talk about it that much, but I glaze over. And
and my mom did a great thing. She and people

(22:20):
all over the country sent like the Washington Post and
the New York Times, and I was on the front
page of every major newspaper in the United States. And
I have books and books and books of just newspaper
articles and then long story short only about what eleven
year Ethan's twenty one. So twelve years ago we were

(22:44):
in Bradenton for a state cal Ripken baseball tournament all stars,
and the coaches said, called the Braiden and Harold. It
was the last year they were doing the Harold and
they wrote a reprise article and that I was on
the front age of the sports page that the year,
which what guy doesn't want to be on the front

(23:05):
page of a sports page. I mean, come on, and
that's pretty cool. But the clients, I mean, they're my family,
They're they're family to me. And the girl, the girl,
the first one that I pulled out of the fire.
She actually is a nurse, a charge nurse, and the
burning unit at Tampa General. So it affected her life. Yeah,

(23:25):
her dad, he he got burned bad. And I'm just
like a fifteen, sixteen year old kid. I had no
idea I wanted to be a nurse or a fisherman.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Or what I wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well, that's all reaction, you know, everybody, It's not something
you think about when you get in that situation. And
to talk to you, buddy, that's good, definitely.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
Yeah, well I'll finish it this way. If you remember
the old big, big shoe box looking cell phones. By
the time it was kind of finishing up, I was
sitting on the back of the fire truck and I
had to take me to the hospital just get checked
out for smoking relation. So they had to call my
mom and they had the volume turned up on the phone.

(24:07):
So when Wesley choked, the principal called my mother and
he explained what I had done. You can hear my mom.
Are we talking about my Michael Perry? Are we talking
about my son job? Yeah, that's pretty cool. But you
guys have a great day. The fishing is good and Mike,

(24:29):
have a safe, safe ride down to the keys Man.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Appreciate it. I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait
to get down there. I talked to Reid Tudor last night,
and we're going to go down there and fish it
up a little bit. We're going to head towards the
glades and take the skiff in the back country and
sweat to death but hopefully catch them up.

Speaker 8 (24:45):
So all right, buddy, well you guys have a y'all
have a great day. God bless and tight lines than
a good.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
Stuff, Michael, good stuff there. We got the a team
here on the other side. De Hobes is on the line.
Give us an.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Offshore miller bars he might glasses that are full of
water and spilling out and that makes it rain.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I can't wait to hear about granola.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, you know something about Florida Bay where you're headed.
That's people would never imagine. There's crocs. Oh yeah, that's
pretty special when you stop and you're fishing a flat
and there's.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
A croc, especially when you're in a little boat. We're
gonna be in We're gonna be in the ko Tuesday
morning in the Everglades, chasing little tarpain and red fish
and snooks around the back country. So can't wait. We
got Captain Dyllan Hubbard here on the other side. Phone
lines are open one eighty eight five four six four
six twenty. We'd love to have your Fisher Reports, questions, comments,

(25:44):
bring them right here. We'll be back. Welcome back, seven
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the phone lines here. Phone lines are open one eighty
eight five four six four six twenty. Questions, comments, Fisher reports,
whatever you got, bring right here. Let's get an off
show report from our guru, Captain d Hubbs. Dylan, how

(26:06):
are you, buddy?

Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'm doing well, boys. How are you this morning?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Great? A mellow bars stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I don't even know why I call in on Sundays
because I just get accosted the whole time. It's just
like I call for punishment.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
That's that's what you like?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
You I don't. Yeah, you're what did you say yesterday?
You were like, oh, I'm neutral in this Switzerland?

Speaker 3 (26:35):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
The forty four hour trip came in this morning. They
had a nice grade of fish. It was a little
interesting the last couple trips, I would say the last
week and a half, almost two weeks. We've been fishing
really deep, catching just absolutely massive stud mangrove snapper. This trip,
the weather was a little tricky, very very scattered showers,

(26:58):
a lot of adverse can ditions out there with storms
kind of coming through, a little bit higher wind, a
little bit bumpier, and that kind of shook things up.
So the ride out we kind of adjusted the plan accordingly,
stayed a little bit in a different area a little shallower,
ended up catching a lot more yellowtail snapper, still got

(27:18):
plenty of mangroves, just didn't have that five to six
pound average size to them, but still plenty of quantity,
and some nice red snapper. Got another limit, plenty of scamp,
just more average size schooly scamp, and then plenty of
nice big fat red group or two. So ended up
being a great trip. The pelagic bite, though, or the

(27:39):
p logic action I should say, was a lot more prolific.
They had a wat who swim up to the side
of the boat. They had a sailfish free jumping, they
had a mahi mahi school swim by. So it is
really lively out there pe logic wise right now. So
plenty of action on the backside of this moon, and
hopefully today we're going to be able to go out

(28:01):
there and take advantage of it. Super light load on
the Sunday thirty nine hour, only twenty five people going out,
so we'll have plenty of room to flat line, to
slow pitch and hopefully scare up some of those pelagics
on this trip today. And then got a lot of
opportunities through the week and before Red Snapper ends, because
we still got about a whole month left to go.

(28:23):
It doesn't end until September fifteenth, end of day for
us here, so got a lot of opportunities and trips
still to catch them up. Looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Love that love that sounds like great. Should be good? Yeah, great,
report things are happening out there. That's good.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
It's a good time to get out there and take
advantage of it. Little warm it's been, but this trip actually,
you guys were talking about it earlier. Water temps, it
rained a lot, and we've had a couple days of
cloud cover. We were talking about it this morning during
the live video. We offloaded all those fish from the
while got all the fish piled up about to do

(29:02):
the video it was like it was almost chilly, had
a chill in the air. And I looked and the
temperature was seventy eight. It was in the seventies and
it was a little breezy. This morning it was nice.
So it's definitely completely changed ten to fifteen degrees in
the morning, which is a positive sign. We needed some
reprieve from that heat for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt, great stuff. Do you tell
everybody how they can find you, big man?

Speaker 1 (29:28):
You check us out tonight seven thirty pm live on
the Real Animals and Hubbard's Marina Facebook and the Hubbard's
Marina YouTube. We're going to be doing that live stream
show talking fishing, answering your questions and giving away fifteen
hundred dollars in free trips. So tune in and don't forget.
If you're too busy to go fishing, you're just too
darm busy. Yeah, I have a great day.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Now you do the same. Do you appreciate your brother
good stuff?

Speaker 7 (29:50):
Right?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I think he's getting a little since all I said
was millibars got all he's a I think he said
he was accosted.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Yeah, I don't, and he lost me with the yardstick.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Let's go back to the phones. Let's check in one
of our artificial lure gurus, Captain Ray Markham Ray, how
are you, buddy.

Speaker 9 (30:13):
Good morning, guys. A little little saggy left over from
yesterday afternoon, but but doing pretty good. Everything's drying out,
you know, the underwear is all hanging out. They're drying well.
But I'm telling I don't know. You know, you mentioned
early on that you know, your week's been kind of
a grind, and honestly, I got to say it has been.

(30:36):
Yesterday it was I felt like I was fishing in
the land of the litl Acutians.

Speaker 7 (30:42):
I mean, it.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
Seemed like ninety of the trout were undersized, except for
the one three pound trout. But you know that that
was the oddball that was in there. Not a big
variety of fish, A couple of lady fish, few jacks,
that kind of thing. It was really disappointing, but the
timing was just about perfect. We only had a six

(31:04):
hour scheduled and coming up on. About fifteen minutes before
the six hour was over, we were sitting around Penela's
Point fishing air. We're looking looking at the skyway and
suddenly the skyway disappears we had a storm coming up
from Braydenson that was we were keeping an eye on.

(31:26):
I said, I think we can make it back to
the ramp in about five or ten minutes. And so
we got just about to the bridge there at what
do they call it, well, right one coming right on
by the toll boot and yeah, Mike dig meiser bridge
and we were starting to get a little wet. We

(31:47):
hung under the bridge for about five or ten minutes
there while it kind of slacked off, and then we
watched the boats racing in from the gulf to the
rep There was like thirty boats all at one time
coming in and I'm going like I must be raining
in the golf. So I don't know. We managed to
get out of there in one piece, but overall we had.

(32:11):
We had a fun trip. These guys are the first
time fishing with me, and and they're from Tallahassee and
they read Florida Sportsman all the time, and they said, man,
this is fun coming out here fishing with you. Now
we see what all that stuff you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Just go ahead, Well I got a question for you.
Well then we can you can ask Ben the Miller
Bars question. So the minute I saw you pop up
on the call screen, I wanted to ask you this.
So I'm headed for the Keys uh tomorrow and we're
going to do some backcountry fishing in the glades, some
canals and uh pockets, chasing those little tarpain snooking red fish.

(32:53):
Imagine the water might be a little bit dirty with
you being a mirrorlure guy, and I'm taking my mirror
lure box with me, but I'm going to be on
the skiff, so I can't take the big spot box.
I gotta put together kind of a little box. What
what colors would you think and what what blures in
the mirror lure lineup? Have you had the most success
with for those little tarpain and maybe down there in

(33:14):
the glades, I know.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
You fished it some, well more more than likely. I'm
sure they've had a lot of rain, so there's probably
a lot of tanning in the in the water. The
eight O eight color which has got kind of an
orange belly, black back goal sides, yea, the night the probably,

(33:35):
I'm sure you could get away with the eighteen, which
is just a natural kind of a white bait color,
you know, green back. I like the twenty six color.
I have done so well with twenty six, which is
a red back white belly uh and uh silver sides.
But I've done really well with that bait, fishing like

(33:58):
five to six feet of water. But I don't know
as far as lures concerned. I mean, it's hard to
beat any of the Mirror Deans. I'd take the seventeens
in the twenty sevens.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Even with that hard mouth. My fear of the Bear
Deans is boys could be hard to get. Oh, I.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Just may not get it back on.

Speaker 9 (34:21):
I was gonna tell you something else. The thirty seven,
which is the bigger one, the biggest one. They've got
heavy enough hooks to take care of just about any
tarp and you're gonna run into. But I like the
catch two thousand for tarpin, and I'll fish that lure
with four X strong hooks. I'll I'll replace the hooks.
It makes it sink a little bit faster. But between

(34:44):
that and the d A bait trolling Model Bait Bush
or my two best tarpin lures ones that are most
effective for me.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Have you ever had any you ever had any luck?
I know some guys that do pretty well on soft
plastic paddle tales. But have you ever had any luck
with the Little j I was wondering some of the
Little John's, and some of them darker colors might work
kind of darting through that dark water.

Speaker 9 (35:06):
They probably would. I don't see why not. The Little
John's incredible lure. I mean that they make two sizes.
You know, you've got the standard one and then the
larger one, the XL or whatever they call it. Yeah,
I would absolutely bring something like that. Uh, some little
heavier hooks to go along with it.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
And yeah, tackle so that bait buster and some of
the best guides and Captain Tarborth fisherman that I know
or have met all the way back to fred Arlis
to Jamie to Ray that bait busters and and a
lot of times it's dead sticked in the current skyway.

Speaker 9 (35:48):
I was just going to say, you here, here's the secret.
Do not overwork that bait I mean, just slight little
lists of the ride and that kind of thing is
all you need. That little tail and that thing just
kind of wiggles a little bit. I think it's just
like going to a well. I won't say the mons
or anything like that, but you know, it's just enough
to just kind of irritate and kind of get the

(36:11):
fish interested, and they just don't think anything of it.
You'd open up that big old bucket mouth and suck
it in and uh yeah, great, super loure and try
the deal way. I'm sorry. The terrorise and that's another
one that people overwork, but that has been an absolute
killer for small tarpin. I'd say small anything up to

(36:34):
about twenty thirty pounds forty pounds, and they actually are
now making one with a heavier hook for guys that
want to go out and you know, trounce the eighty
pound tarpen or a hundred pund tarpen that will eat
a little bit like that.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know, they're not flashy lures in the pack that
you would would attract a lot of the buyers of
that kind of tackle. But pretty much, if Mark Nichols
markets it, probably.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
He brought it to market. He's caught fish on it,
there's no doubt about it. Cam Ray, we appreciate you.
That's a great call. Tell everybody how they can get
a hold of you to book one of those trips and
learn how to throw artificials around the Bay area.

Speaker 9 (37:12):
Well, it's kind of stupid If you can remember the
area code of nine four one just called catfish, it's
two two eight three four seven four. If you look
on the dial, it actually spells that stupid stuff. Only
people in bars will tell you about that.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
We appreciate the ray. Great call, brother, Well done. All right, guy,
take care you bet.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Good stuff right there, gonna tell me about mill bar.
I looked it up here and everything. I was ready
for him, but then we sidetracked it.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Let's check in real quick with a good friend from
Lines of Liberty, Captain Jean Hamm and gino, how are you, buddy?

Speaker 10 (37:46):
Oh man? Is this he's gonna go away? Fellows?

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Great?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
I hope so, sooner, sooner rather than later, we hope. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:55):
I tried to do a Hatteris trip Friday and got
about fifty miles out, headed for the deep stuff, and
decided to I don't know why I decided to, but
I decided to test my transfer pumps from holding tanks
to day tanks, and primary and backup pumps would not

(38:17):
come on. But I guess cut our trip pretty short.
We managed to stop and catch a few yellow tail
and lanes and stuff like that, but uh, yeah, there's
no manual way to transfer fuel from holding tanks to
day tanks without little pumps.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah, interesting, I didn't know that. I don't have.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
My buddy's boat, but I run it for him. They
managed to get back in safely and did a intore
trip with a veteran Saturday morning, and it was just
too hot. Like I mean, we caught a couple of
small trout and a sting ray. That's it.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's a tough it's a tough listen. It's a tough
time of year right now. I mean, there's some fish
to be caught, but it's just it's grindy. Yeah, it's grindy.
It just is just, you know, whenever you have record heat,
water temps are through the roof. I mean they call
them the dog days of summer for a reason. You know.
It's just you know, we got a couple of weeks
of this and then it's going to start to it's

(39:20):
going to start to transition. I figure probably on this
next moon, if not the next one, for sure, by
the following moon, you're going to start to get our schools.
The red fish are going to jump back in. Things
are going to get rolling. The transition is going to start,
and once we get into that transition, those fish start
piling in off the beach, it's gonna it's going to
fire back up. So we just got to be patient
and get through it.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
It's tough, though a lot of us won't be thinking
about red fish to fus.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Just two moons, not two full moons. Two moons.

Speaker 10 (39:51):
Yeah, I got to get these veterans to the boat
a little bit earlier, you know, showing up at uh
eight o'clock and trying to fish that time till one
or two in the afternoon is tough.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Six hours, not even in my vocabulary. Especially right now.
It's just too hot. Try to pick them up at
you know, seven or eight o'clock in the morning, and
by noon I'm off the water. It's just too hot.
It just is. Or fish it the other way. You
could fish late, you know, fish into the evening, you know,
fish until dark. You know, not my favorite thing to do,
but some people, some people catch a lot of fish

(40:25):
that way. So especially on this full moon, that outgoing tide,
it's going to be the better tide, so you know,
it's a hozing.

Speaker 10 (40:31):
And that's why I was going off shore too. Is
sutting during the summertime. It's just so much better to
fish at night.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
I'm on the full moon right.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
For sure.

Speaker 10 (40:42):
We got this. We're still got this raffle going for
the bathroom move remodel to raise money. We're well over
twenty thousand on our thirty thousand dollars gold. The boat
is being built. We are also looking for any and
all sponsors that would like to help with electronics and
our poles, and you know you've got to kit it
out so we'll get there and we'll get some realcare

(41:06):
veterans on the boat that it's gonna be a good time.
We appreciate your platform and everything you guys do for us.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Thank you. Well, keep up the good work man. We
love our veterans, dude, and nobody takes care of them
like lines of liberty. So just keep doing what you're doing. Brother.
We appreciate you.

Speaker 10 (41:22):
Thanks, boys, have a good have a good day.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
You know, good report, buddy, We appreciate you. Good stuff.
I guess we got time. I don't have music yet.
Let's check in with Gary and Inglewood. Gary, how are
you this morning?

Speaker 11 (41:33):
Hey, guys, I'm doing pretty good. I hear a few
people talking about the low fish bite. But you know,
you just got to get out early. I'm out before
the sun comes up. I know where I'm going to
go before I even go out there, and I head
out that way and get anchored up and start casting,
and usually I'm done in an hour or two and

(41:55):
got a few fish on.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah. Man, well that's probably I'm.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Not doing any live bait either. It's just artificial.

Speaker 11 (42:02):
I just got a couple of holes, just gotta keep
hitting them.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I drove down River Road for the first time in
probably ten years on Friday.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Did you recognize it?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
No, it'll be four lane soon, but no. And there's
development that was there. Used to be nothing but occasional pigs,
wild hogs on the side of the road and just change.
Nothing out there. And then that that Verster and I
were talking about that one store when you hit forty
one you could get just about I guess it was
an ice cream store gas station, but they had Friday.

Speaker 11 (42:33):
Business over the years.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, yeah, so it looked very different. But I went
down to Placida, all the way down to Placida Winchester,
I had to remember to take a left turn on Winchester,
but looked a lot different until I got down, you know,
down to the nitty gritty, and then elders looked the
same and sort of thing.

Speaker 11 (42:54):
So did you get near it when you're driving? Did
you get near any of the bay houses that are
on the ground because they were white out?

Speaker 7 (43:00):
Man?

Speaker 11 (43:00):
I tell you what, it broke me from wanting a
house on the bay.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
No way, no way, I'm with you. Did the same
thing to me.

Speaker 11 (43:08):
But yeah, I've got out them out every morning, and
then I go out in the evening after dinner. I'll
go out right when the sun starts to set and
we'll always catch a couple there too.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Nice. Yeah, that's a ton of fish right now, early
morning and laid into the evening and catch a little
bit of that break and.

Speaker 11 (43:24):
That way there, I can nap all day. I don't mind.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Rub it in, Gary, rub it in, buddy.

Speaker 5 (43:30):
All right, Hi guys, good call, appreciate.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
You, good stuff. Nap all day.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
During the rain, thunder and lightning it did you get
much better?

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Catch a couple of fish and run back to the house.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Rolling into our number two, We're gonna have Captain Chris Whitman,
Captains for Clean Water, talking about this big rock mine
deal down here in South. He's Florida. We're going to
talk about it and try to get to the nitty
gritty of it. Phone lines will be open one eighty
eight five four six four, six twenty. We'll be back.
Welcome back eight oh four here at the iHeartMedia Empire.

(44:10):
Rolling into our number two of the Teamahoney Company Real
Animals Radio Show. As promised, We've got a longtime friend
of the show, Captain Chris Whitman. He is with Captains
for Clean Water. I know most of you have heard
of this organization trying to do things to clean up
the water down in South Florida. We had talked to

(44:31):
Chris yesterday on the bartow Ford Reel Animals radio show
about just trying to wrap our head around their take
on what's going on down here with the rock mine
in South Florida. So I wanted to do the same
thing today, get you guys up to speed, and Chris
does a great job at kind of unraveling it a
little bit and letting you know what's going on, giving

(44:52):
you the Captains for Clean Water perspective of this thing.
So joining us now. It says you're in Tifton, Georgie.
Are you in Georgia, Christmas.

Speaker 12 (45:01):
I am not, I am not No, I'm I'm in
in Alva, Florida.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Okay, I was gonna say, I don't. You didn't. We
didn't discuss that you were in Georgia, which means I
would I would have thought that means he's up there
getting ready for some deer hunting.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
Probably driving your property, because.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
Probably exactly that's what I was wanting.

Speaker 12 (45:23):
I will be heading to I will be heading l
Cutting in a few weeks, but not in Georgia.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
All right, my brother, Hey, I appreciate you joining us
again today. If you could kind of redo what you
did yesterday, get the listeners up to speed on what's
going on here in South Florida with the rock Mind,
we would greatly appreciate it. You did a great job yesterday,
so enlighten us as you were.

Speaker 10 (45:45):
Absolutely thanks for having us on this morning.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Guys.

Speaker 12 (45:48):
Yeah, So you know, as many of you know, Captains
was founded to reduce the discharges from Lake Okechobee to
the east coast and the west coast of Florida and
get more clean water flowing back to the Everglades in
Florida Bay the way God designed it. And that's kind
of the mission of organization. In the last nine years

(46:10):
or so, we've had a lot of success in Everglades
restoration in doing that, and the key component to that
being the Everglades Reservoir, the EAA reservoir that will take
water from Lake Okeechobee during the wet season, it will
clean that water through filter marshes, through stas, and then
it will send that clean water south to the Everglades

(46:32):
during the dry season. And recently, the sugar industry in
the last few years sued the Army Corps of Engineers
over that reservoir, over that EAA reservoir, saying that they
should be entitled to the water in that reservoir rather
than before it before it's available to the Everglades. And

(46:54):
that's a four billion dollar taxpayer funded project, keep in mind, right,
And so they lost that lawsuit at the district level
and at the appellate level. And then recently kind of
midyear last year, we heard there was this proposal to

(47:16):
build a rock mine that was being being kind of
portrayed as a water resource project directly next to the
that Everglades reservoir proposal by the sugar industry and Phillips
and Jordan the contractor.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
To do this.

Speaker 12 (47:31):
And the reason it was it was we heard about it,
we kind of rang the alarm bell. Something doesn't seem right.
And the reason it was being portrayed as a water
resource project is because mining in that area is prohibited
unless it's to build a water resource project. So they
were kind of using a loophole to get approval to

(47:51):
mine in an area that's you're not allowed to mine in.
And so since then, many many people have weighed in
with opposition to this mine and concerns to this mine,
being one being the Army Corps of Engineers saying, wait
a minute, thirty forty years of dynamite blasting right next

(48:13):
to this above ground reservoir that's the most critical component
of Everglades restoration could damage that reservoir, It could impact
the ecology around the area, could cause that reservoir to leak.
And so they formally submitted you know, concerns in writing
over this proposal for this rock mine, as well as

(48:36):
members of Congress, thousands of Fleurdians, scientists, and over I
believe it's sixty eight conservation organizations that make up the
Everglades Coalition all have opposed this project. And despite that,
this thing's being fast tracked through the steps that had
to take was it had to get approval that this

(49:01):
was identified as a viable water resource project by the
South worda water management district. Then once that happened, the
County of West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County has to
then approve it for the zoning change basically allowing going
outside of that that ban on rock mine, allowing the

(49:21):
rock mining because it's been determined as a water resource project.
And then the last stop would be the Department of
Environmental Protection to get the permit to allow the mining
to take place. And what happened was there, and there's
a good investigative reporter that dug up. A letter was
sent from US Sugar to the A to the water

(49:44):
Management district on Christmas Eve. That letter was then tweaked
a little bit and it was a letter sounding like
an approval. It was tweaked a little bit and then
was submitted to West Palm Beach saying that this site
could be the site of a water resource project but
no analysis had been done. And the applicant, Phillips and Jordan,

(50:07):
took that letter to Palm Beach and sold it off
as we've got our approval, this has already been an
approved water resource project from the district and got them
to you know approved on their end for the zoning.
So now the last stop that this thing they've kind
of they've used some loopholes, they've used a new process

(50:27):
for unsolicited projects, and they've really been a little dishonest
in the way that they've approached it. And so as
a result, you know, now the last stop is at
the Department of Environmental Protection. And you know, even at
the last board meeting last month for the Water Management District,
the chairman of the board and members are staffs said

(50:50):
we want to be clear, we have not approved this
as a water resource project. We as a matter of fact,
haven't even begune the analysis process. So this thing's been
fast tracked through the political you know channels, as we
know happens especially with Big Sugar. And now the last

(51:11):
stop is the EP They're slated to issue that permit
on August eleventh, so just a few days here. So
right now we've got a call to action out. You know,
like I said, every member of the Everglades Coalition, which
is you know, sixty over sixty eight organizations that work

(51:32):
within Everglades Restoration all of opposed this, numerous scientists and
so even you know, members of Congress on both sides
of the aisle have all have all weighed in here,
but it still appears it's moving forward. So right now
we have a call to action on our website and

(51:52):
on our social media that people can send an email
to the Secretary of Deep and the Governor, Governor DeSantis,
who you know we've worked closely with over the years,
asking him to direct the ep not to issue that
permit until at minimum the Water Management District has an
opportunity to analyze that project, because it's very likely once

(52:15):
they analyze the project that they determine it not to
be a viable resource project. The reason I say that is,
for one, it's it's going to be forty years down
the road. And then you have a hole in the
ground full of mining water that's not clean, you know,
water that meets the standards required to go into a

(52:36):
national park, and there's no filter marsh. There's no sta
filter marsh component to this project. So like the EAA
reservoir is ten thousand acre reservoir and as a sixty
five hundred acre filter marsh. They're just proposing here to
dig a hole in the ground and then once they
get all the rock out of it that they want,
they'll turn it over to the state as a quote

(52:59):
water resource. So it's definitely a big concern. It's a
big concern to us on what it could do to
impact the integrity of the EAA reservoir. I mean, if
we spend ten years building a four billion dollar project
and then you can't use the thing because it's leaking
because they're dynamite blasting one thousand feet away for forty years,

(53:22):
that's a that's a major major problem, and that will affect,
you know, getting clean water to the Everglades, and it
will affect reducing the discharges to our coast, which is
why we founded the organization.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
I can't help. I have to ask and if I'm
derailing or taking away its significance, uh, please call me out.
But what significant is it that our is there that
our president says he wants Coca Cola made with indigenous
sugar from the United States and no longer have to

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drink Coca Cola's only with real sugar from Mexico.

Speaker 12 (54:02):
That is a great a great, great question, and it's
one that we can spend your whole three hour radio
show going down, going going through the the literally the
level of connection to that sugar has. But for the
you know, sugar here in the United States is federally subsidized.

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They're one of the most highly subsidized crops in the
United States. And as a matter of fact, they just
this year in the Farm Bill, Title one of the
Farm Bill, got their loan rate up to the highest
level it's ever been. So, without going into you know,
taking up too much time, basically there's a there's a floor,
there's a tariff put on import sugar that artificially props

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up the value and the price to the consumer of
their domestic goods. Then they can sell that sugar that
they produce back to the government where it sits in
a warehouse, and if the market consumes it, they can
buy it back from the government at no interest. And
so it is basically you know, you're you're they're basically

(55:10):
inflating the value of the commodity they're making by six
hundred to eight hundred million dollars a year. And as
we know, with sugar, they support both sides of the aisle.
They have done so. You know, when President Clinton was
impeached and Ken Starr was deposing Monica Lewinsky, she talked
about how for twenty two minutes during the breakup in

(55:33):
the Oval Office, he took a call from one of
the van Hols from Florida Crystals. Because al Gore was
in Florida on a reporter asked him if he'd support
a penny of pound tax on sugar to clean up
their pollution pluting water in the Everglades, and he said yes,
and and they were so irate about it that they
called the president and they had the ability to call

(55:55):
the president directly in the Oval Office and get him
to take a call twenty two minutes. That's significant reach
and significant power. They they've you know they have. They've
supported President President Trump. They've supported Hillary Clinton when she
ran against him.

Speaker 7 (56:13):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (56:13):
These guys know.

Speaker 12 (56:14):
How to play politics. And that's exactly what you see
here is, you know, the grease of political skids to
get their way, regardless of the impact to the water
or the people of the United States or Florida.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Chris, we appreciate your efforts, brother. That is a great
phone call. Yeah, we we appreciate your insight. Again, I
literally just dropped him a text said hey, brother, we
need some we need some knowledge on this and appreciate
your take on it. And he jumped on both shows.
So again, we certainly appreciate that.

Speaker 12 (56:48):
Thank you, and and Mike, I'll text you guys the
we have. We did an hour and forty five minute
podcast on this topic.

Speaker 10 (56:55):
Is our first podcast.

Speaker 12 (56:56):
I'll send you guys the link and I'll try to
get on your your face Facebook and drop it in
the comments there. But it's a good listen if anybody
wants to go into more detail.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Perfect brother, Well done, man, keep up the good work.

Speaker 12 (57:07):
Thanks Chris, Thank you guys, have a great day.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Appreciate you. Yeah, buddy, So so see, I wasn't silly.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
The's a lot of flim flam going on. Well.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
As soon as you see Trump holding up to saying
I want I want my coke sweeten from domestic sugar.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
And again, I'll say it now, I've said it forever.
Until you stop these big corporations feeding the wallets of
our politicians, until you eliminate that dirt, you are not
going to get any of our problems fixed. It's just
that simple. The problems will continue to be there. Look
how long it took us to take care of Pony
Point the politics there, and that was local politics. That

(57:46):
was Manatee County doing dirty stuff behind the scenes. So
it's just it's a mess. We're gonna get our safe
Voting tip of the week, our bush Light Safe voting
tip of the week, Captain Jim Fogel here on the
other side. A big thank you out to Captain Chris
women Caps for Clean Water for giving us their take
on that. I talked to some people yesterday. There's some

(58:06):
some other opinions on that as well, so make sure
you do your research on that. We'll be back on
the other side. Ninety five three wde int am six
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Captain Jeff Hageman is going to be my guest from
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captain for many, many many years. I'm in my twenty
fifth year and just been doing it longer than I
have so Redfish Tournament winner, Tarpin Tournament winner, ran offshore boats,
big boats, bill fits, all kinds of crazy stuff. So
come on out, check us out. The OCC is a
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(59:09):
beer's cold, life is good, plenty of parking, great, great
atmosphere for this. So Tuesday August twenty sixth, seven to
nine pm, Captain Jeff Hageman at OCC Roadhouse. Make sure
you come on and join us. Let's get our bush
lights safe boating tip of the weekend here Captain Jim Fogel, Jimmy,
how are you great?

Speaker 7 (59:28):
How are you guys?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Good? Buddy?

Speaker 7 (59:30):
Cold both We're trying full both there. That's good, that's good. Yeah, Tomorrn.
I want to talk about marine bills, pumps and float switches.
You know a lot of people, especially new boaters. People
with new boats don't pay much attention to their bills pumps.
You know, your bills pumps should work two ways. One
you should have a switch on a console to flick

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it on, and two you should have a float switch
built in or next to the bills pump that will
activate the bill's pump when the water gets to a
certain level in the bills now or you know, if
you're going to be out on the water and you're
going to get awake once in a while, or you're

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going to get a little water, your bill's pumps going
to go off once in a while. But if that
sucker starts going off every couple of minutes, you better
slow down take a look because something's going on down there.
When you provide your normal maintenance on your boat and
you're you're washing it and you're cleaning it up, in
addition to all the other things above the deck, you

(01:00:35):
ought to pay attention to those hoses down there. Make
sure that bill's pump will go off automatically. And the
best way to do is just put some water down
there while you're cleaning the boat and let it blow
it back out. But both of them need to work.
If the float switch is not working properly, and that's

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one of the first things that goes bad on them.
They get crutting them down there, and then they won't
they won't go off. But if that thing is filling
up down there by the time you notice it, you know,
especially if you're running, you can have a whole lot
of water in that boat. So pay attention to the thing.

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Make sure that float switch is working.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
If you're going to have your boat on the lift,
especially when we're having this kind of weather and you're
not using the boat frequently, you better double check that
float switch because I've seen guys lose boats and lifts
because the boat filled up with water or it got
too heavy. You know, water weighs like eight point something

(01:01:41):
pounds per gallon. You can get a lot of water
in that boat, and that thing can just help wreck
your lift and drop the boat backwards in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
Mister Mahoney probably gets a lot of bad Bill's pumps
and float switches in his place and fixes them all
the time, don't you mic.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Yep, it's something common we check, and you know that
we install. One of the things I wanted to add
to it a lot of people will take that switch
Jim and they'll go directly to the battery. Okay, if
your boat sits in the water all the time, like
a big boat, I would recommend doing that to a

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power source. But you know, when your boat's on a trailer,
you want to be able to shut everything off right
like if it's sitting next to your house. You don't
want anything hooked directly to the battery. And a lot
of people do it because it's a lot easier to
install it that way. So to do it yourself, guys
or whoever that's rigging, they can look at the instructions

(01:02:44):
and they will give you that as an option. I personally,
I want to have a three way switch. Top positions, auto,
bottom positions, manual, and the center's off. And when my
boat's sitting on a trailer next to the house, the
plugs out the battery which is off. I have no drawl.
That's the most important thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Well, in those floats which is are not like a
piece of equipment you find on a space shuttle. It's
a pretty basic item. And if you can have trash
in your build, and even my boat's eight or nine
years old, you can get some glass even if you're
not putting trash in the builds of your boat, there's
pieces of fiberglass or stuff from the manufacturing of the

(01:03:26):
boat that'll all of a sudden show up down there.
I didn't put it there, and it's under that float,
and I'll burn your pumps up.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
So that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Good stuff, boys, good stuff, nice.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
All right, guys, thanks for the assists there. Appreciate your input.
The Coast Guard, Exilian sat Pete, Jim Fogel.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Be safe out there, great job as always, Jimmy, thanks sir.
Good stuff right there. We got a head to break here.
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Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
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Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Great family. I've known the family for yeah, man, members
of family for many many as long as I've been
in as long as I've been in the Bay area.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
It's such a variety about the boys. You got one
that's a jokester, one that's a tough guy, you know
what I mean, and then one that just kind of
falls in between both. Yeah, I would mess with none
of them. Tell them real animals sense you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Yeah, No, doubt good, good, good people over there. Let's
go to the phones here. What you got, you got some?

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
I talked about the curve too. I just didn't know millibars.
I mean I watched that this morning. I said, it's
coming towards Jackson.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
You know what I wondered. I wonder, no matter where
we are, is that where the path goes?

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
It's like whatever station you're listening to, if you're over
in Texas, they're showing you, old boy, here it comes
to get you. Plant on that. Go to home depot
and get their inflated prices on their wood. If you
ever noticed hurricane season they jacked the wood all up.
You gotta wait till after hurricane season. But I guess
that's not price gouging.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
Let's go. Let's go to the phone like poke the Bears. Yeah,
that would even fired him up. Let's go to the
phones here, check in with a good friend from Cca,
Hillsborough County. Now Brooks, Now, how are you my brother?

Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Some heavy content this morning? Fellas?

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Yeah? Yeah, you know, every now and then, we gotta
step up our game a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Wow, kind of tough to follow.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
You'll do fun.

Speaker 5 (01:06:33):
I am here to remind everybody of the thirty seventh
annual Tampa Chapter CCA All Release Challenge and Loving Memory
of Richard Seward. It's happening September nineteenth and twentieth out
at Tampa baywatching Tier Verdie. The Captain's meeting is Friday night,

(01:06:53):
the nineteenth. The tournament is Saturday the twentieth. We have
divisions for children, we have and now we've added live Bait.
We have sponsorships of all levels. You can come in
as an individual entry or you can get a sponsorship
where we'll provide a guide for you. We're trying to

(01:07:16):
get a deal, I think, with with residents in out
on Tierra Verdi for people who want to stay the night.
I will confirm that and report back next week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Nice hotel, we stayed there. I stayed there. It's a
nice hotel.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
Ed.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
I think they're trying to get us a good deal
so we can get people so you can stay the
night out there. And I need to check in off
the air with mister Mahoney because I'm concerned that there
might be some shenanigans.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
I don't know about that. I'm not so sure about that,
and I couldn't tell you anyway. I don't recall. Aren't
you an attorney? So I want to tell you, I
don't recall.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
That's I gave you that response I gave you me.
I don't recall it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
I agree with you, but you're getting it. I don't recall.
There's always some flim flam going on if I'm involved,
I promise you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
That, no doubt. How how did people get showed up?
Tell everybody how they get signed up on a.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
Florida log on, go to the events, drop down and
go to September and it's right there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
And we all thought we sold it out last year?
Didn't we sell it out last year?

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
We had as of a month and a half ago,
we still Yeah, we had eighty seven holdovers from last
year that did not get a refund that are coming. Okay,
So there is no where I hope. I hope that
the guys at Tampa Baywatch aren't listening. But we're not
talking about the words while we're gonna make it happen

(01:09:04):
no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
How manybody wants to come, how many people are coming,
I don't recall.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
There you go, I'll tell you when it's over.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Good job.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Now we appreciate your brother job.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
Great call, buddy.

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Be safe. That's a good tournament. It's a good one
to get into. So very first saltwater fishing tournament ever
fished was c C A All Release Challenge back when
it was out of Behay Beach. So let's go to
the south shore. Speaking of Behaya Beach, check in with
Richard on the south shore. Richard, how are you, buddy.

Speaker 13 (01:09:46):
I'm fining the frog chair.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Yeah you are?

Speaker 13 (01:09:51):
Hey, I see uh? Or apparently Ben has cracked the
mystery of the mill bar.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Yeah, google it Google.

Speaker 13 (01:10:03):
Yuh could you explain to the class then what a
middle bar is?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Well, it's one thousandth anyway, but uh, it's a measurement
of the rise and fall of barometric pressure and stuff.
So yeah, I googled it earlier. I know that it's
one thousandth of a pascal or something like that, but
I couldn't. I couldn't get Dealing hooked up on it.
I baited him up and he just blew it off.

Speaker 13 (01:10:27):
So the bar is the word you're looking for, It's
two thousands of a bar.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Oh, we knew you'd know, rich Yes, we.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Knew you'd know.

Speaker 13 (01:10:38):
Now, what is that relationship to a psi? Which is
what America uses.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
America America like golf, that's like part of the golf
of America.

Speaker 13 (01:10:51):
No, that's the golf of Mexico.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
There, that's does anymore.

Speaker 13 (01:11:00):
It's fourteen point six roughly fourteen point six psi? And
what relation is that to the atmospheric pressure here on
the planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
I think you got the wrong show. We are not
here to educate.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Are you. Are you out to prove how smartly educated
we are or how smart you are?

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Both.

Speaker 13 (01:11:23):
You'll notice, you'll notice has been gotten left alone till
he's side to take sides.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
So yeah, you don't hear out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I talked about hugging manatees, and he's after me.

Speaker 13 (01:11:35):
Now I got I got my homey taken care of.
I was up in the shop the other day and
I said, that's a nice looking cast net you got there, buddy,
I said, what do you think about this? Captains for
Clean Water and the big sugar mine? He says, over
my dead body, And then I bought the cast net.
So he's in the pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
That's it, hey, And what do you learn this week?
What'd you learn this week? Richard? From your brother that
man and teas eat mangroves.

Speaker 13 (01:12:01):
Oh you know, And I meant to say I was mistaken.
I did not know. I went and I couldn't find
a particular video that he was talking about. But the
show de Banatees were nibbling on the mangrove trees, which
you guys should be all in favor of.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Why we don't want to.

Speaker 13 (01:12:19):
Give you more room to pitch.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Taking habits away. By the way, I was always understand
your ground.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
By the way, you're right, A thousandth of a bar
is a Miller bar, but it's equivalent to a hundred pascals.
So I brought up the pascal, see I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Was on it.

Speaker 13 (01:12:39):
Well, yeah, pascal is pretty far down there. Yeah, and
who why do they call it a pascal?

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Forgot?

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
He's looking.

Speaker 13 (01:12:53):
That's the guy who admitted to the measurement. But uh,
you know, I'm gonna read Mike alone. Did they Anderson?
Because I got bigger fishing brass the feller for clean water.
H One thing I did not hear him mentioned today,
which you brought up yesterday, that being his short companies

(01:13:13):
are promoting this as an ecological environmental uh project, is
they're going to attempt to get taxpayer money to help
fund it, right, And I didn't hear him say that today.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
No, you're right, I didn't either, and that that was
of the whole thing. And again I spoke with some
people from CCA yesterday afternoon, talked to some other organizations
who aren't as opposed to this as Captains is. But
that was the one issue that everybody kind of has

(01:13:48):
in their crawl, that is, Yeah, what do we what
do we? What are we doing? Pays for this? This
is ridiculous And they're going to make all the money
off the aggregate. There's a massive aggregate shortage exactly making
all the money off.

Speaker 13 (01:14:02):
That's right, because they mind all the lines zone that
they can get to right now, and so they wanted
to get that out to use that for basis for
roads and houses such. Because we don't have that much
rock here in Florida exactly, had to ship it down
by rail. We're to mine it up north, right, So
it's a money making operation.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Yeah, it's a money making operation. And then there and
then we got to fund it. Why are we funding it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
I mean that's what that sounds like us building a
stadium that's flat now it is flyn Flant.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Yeah, for sure, if you get past a little bit
of raid on and radiation. We got gip piles that
make some of the best roadway base you could come by,
and we got plenty of it.

Speaker 13 (01:14:42):
I can see one from the house.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, good call, Richard does always brother.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Thanks Richard.

Speaker 13 (01:14:50):
All right, since since Dylan's not there, I'll let yo go.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
Yeah, that was pretty funny, dude. He called Dylan part
of Big sugar Man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Dylan was like, what, yeah, so he's part of Big.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Yeah, he's not all that sweet wow. And Mike's though,
and yes, well you know he's out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
In the parking lot this morning, Ben said, asked me
about batteries. I'm thinking, what happened, Ben? You went back
to check.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
On Well, I just went back and looked at a
I was having a little trouble a couple of three
years ago and sent you the dates on my battery
and your comment was those are getting kind of old.
And that was three three years ago. So we were
working on it's time. It's time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:40):
And he asked me about batteries, Tampa Bay Batteries. Who
I'd go with for sure on a maintenance free battery.
Those guys are over at sixteen hundred East Bush Boulevard
eight one three nine three two zero one zero eight.
We also carrym mahonies, so you can go you can
go to the label.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Yeah, but you can go to their place and get
and pick up batteries as well. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Yeah, Okay, their retail and they can probably I'll probably
get a list from Bobby. They supply quite a few
people in the area. They build a dynamite battery. But
just like anything that we sell, it's the people that
stand behind it. That's what I look for. I don't
look at just a product to sell. Who's gonna stand
behind the product something?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
It's like some even some of your lithium battery people
that are new out, they tell you it's a ten
year warranty where they've been in business two years. How
can you be secure that you're going to have ten
years a warranty. Bobby and them guys have been doing
it forever. They're great people over there. Tampa Bay Battery,
sixteen hundred East Bush Boulevard. That's who private labels.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
And you ensure it's a local company.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Too, That's right. I've always loved the publications that are free.
You've got some of them in your store sometimes I
don't know the names of all of them, but the
free fishing magazines. And there's always a guy in there
that says, you know, thirty years in your experience, and
the guys thirty four years old, like so you started
at four. Guiding people, they say it all the time.

(01:17:10):
But one of the points you made last week that's
important is, you know, a bunch of us have golf
carts and buggies and stuff where we're watching the water levels.
I do it constantly. I use a turkey baster to
use the distilled water. I know we had these automatic
ones that you plug in, but I use a turkey
baster in a flashlight. But where these batteries are in

(01:17:32):
my boat you can't get. I mean, they've got little doors,
they're under the seats, and they've got double doors. You
I mean, you've got some guys smaller than me that
might be able to stick their head in there and
see the top of it, but not to fill. They've
got to be maintenance first. And that's what I would say.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
The least you want to buy the least you know,
because they get expensive as you go up with glass
mats and lithiums and all that. You're going to be
spending more money. But a maintenance free back is a
must on a boat because you're constantly charging. You know,
one doesn't hold a charge you know better than another.
But they have more charge, they have more juice to them,

(01:18:12):
So make sure you're getting the right batteries. And those
guys are jam up. We've been with them a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
It's good stuff, good stuff. Weather's gonna be looks like
clouds now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
It's getting hammered south of Anna Maria all the way
down to Naples though, right on the coast, and a
lot of stuff inland. Yeah, it just gets coming eighty
percent hands. The wind's not so bad, but who cares
about when when the lightning pop?

Speaker 3 (01:18:35):
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(01:19:20):
nine pm. Captain Jeff Hageman. We're gonna have Ingle Cooler's
Bullbay Rods real animal swag to give away. There might
be a Mike Mahoney sighting. Maybe we'll get Big Ben
Marshall out there for.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
A while there wears some quick dry clothes. If Mahoney's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
Right, you may it may spill it drink in your life.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Yeah, that puts me up there with a wow.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
He's sticky now. That's how Sticky got his name right.
And he's sticky now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Well that was purposely. That puts me up there with
a lot of First, you got a guy in Tampa
that ran his boat into a restaurant. Probably won't see
that again. Well, you're probably not going to see somebody
spill a full coke in Scott Moore's lap either so
or catch a fish in an aquarium.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
Yeah. I want to put a shout out to Derek
Debo is our man on the other side of the wall.
We appreciate Jade for keeping this hideous radio program rolling
this morning. We want to thank everybody that joined us
on the Facebook feeds. We want to thank all the listeners. Everybody,
have a great, great week. Be safe out there, tight lines.
We are out