July 24, 2024 • 6 mins
As Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle steps down, questions are being asked of the service, where did things go wrong and can they be fixed? World-renowned global security and law enforcement expert Paul Viollis joined with some answers.
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(00:00):
Good morning. I'm Tony Cruz.Now that we have Secret Service Director Timberlee
Sheeedel, who spoke in front ofa Househovers like committee monday resignation and her
resigning yesterday, it's so interesting.Other information is coming out after the same
testimony is coming that we heard yesterday, particularly when as it pertains to homeland
(00:23):
security and more. Paul Violis,of course, is an expert in all
of these types of things. Fall. I appreciate your time again this morning.
What do you make of what wesaw Monday and yesterday with Pennsylvania State
Police Colonel Christopher Paris describing what happenedand went down? Well, first of
all, good morning, Tony.You know what I'm not surprised about as
(00:46):
far as the director stepping down,and you think anybody that watched that testimony
felt that it was excruciating and insultingall at the same time. And as
far as Pennsylvania State Policeman. Look, I've worked with them quite a bit
in the past. They are byfar one of the most professional organizations in
the country. Their SWAT team issecond and none, so they're a quality
(01:08):
organization. I think the bottom linehere, Tony, and this is the
really disturbing part about this. Istill have the same questions today as I
did the afternoon in July thirteenth.And the most frightening piece of information that
came out and was verified just severaldays ago is that the IRANNIE and Special
(01:30):
Strekeforce to refer to as the cudsTony they the Secret Service was aware of
the fact that they were targeting formerPresident Trump. They were aware of this
far in advance of July thirteen.Now, to put this in perspective,
this is one of the most lethallethal strekeforces on the planet. If they
(01:53):
were focused on president former President Trumpat the time, the question is one
who conducted the threat analysis that gavean inadequate protection package for President Trump at
that time? Someone at the SecretService has to answer for that. That
question hasn't been asked yet. Andthe second part about this is typically it's
(02:14):
the SAC, the Specialation in chargeof the local field office, which would
have been Pittsburg in this case,that has to sign off on the threat
analysis that opened that building up andtook it outside the perimeter. Who is
that? I still haven't heard that, and no one's asking that question.
So the bottom line here is thatnot just as they are, and we
keep hearing this colossal failure operationally.The public was put in a magnanimous risk
(02:43):
because of the inadequacy of identifying threat, which is security one oh one,
and then placing a corresponding threat planor package in place to counter that that
never happened. So you have toask yourself this toty one. Is this
blatant incompetence which you know, listen, the Secret Service is a great organization.
(03:05):
Everybody can pile on, but they'rea great organization. They've been messing
up in the past. Okay,I get it, But was this blatant
in competence or did someone just intentionallyhas so much disdain for this guy that
they just said, no, we'rejust not doing it. There's only two
options there, Tony. There's onlytwo options, and we need to get
the answer to that. I've beenthinking about that, and you know,
(03:27):
I hesitate to go conspiracy theories onall this stuff because we hear so many
conspiracy theories that you know that seemloopy. But to your point, I
have wondered that ever since we heardthat President Trump's life was in danger because
the Iranians were coming after him,and they have attempted to kill Americans on
American soil, particularly in New York. As I understand it, that is
(03:49):
correct, Tony, and we aretalking about a streamed force. And I
will tell you this with certainty,Tony, that if this particular group,
because if they had this side ofthat they were going to use that venue,
that shooter would have gotten his shotoff. Former President Trump wouldn't be
with us anymore. That guy wouldhave assimilated back in the crowd. He
(04:09):
would have been on a plane andbe having coffee and Tehran later that day.
So that is a stock there.They were aware of that threat.
And this is a disturbing part.Whether you like Trump or not makes no
difference. Here's the thing. Therewere a ton of American citizens in that
venue. All of them were placedat risk. Absolutely, So somebody better
(04:32):
start asking the right questions. Whydo you think, well, we heard
Congress trying to ask questions, whydo you think Cheatle had no answers the
other security issues because you don't wantto unveil secret service secrets, so to
speak, Tony, I will betyou dinner at Roffins for a week.
(04:54):
He had all of the answers Tony. She had the answers that night.
He was coached by their attorneys asto what to say and the standard response.
Her you know, standard statement wasclearly coached. She had. It
was sort of like taking the fifthonly Terman administrative perspective, and it was
(05:17):
foreseeable anybody that knew anything about testifyingfrom the Congress years, she was coming
in with a plate statement. Andthat's exactly what she did. Rescue Swart.
She has the answers instead of plentyof other people. They just haven't
shared those. Well, I wishI had you for a whole hour,
because they got an hour's worth ofquestions. Maybe we can get back together.
(05:38):
I hope this week. I'd lovetalking to you, Paul, as
always, thanks so much, appreciateyour time. Paul violis expert in all
of these fields. Chief executive positiona Violet Group International, who has been
around corporate risk consulting and a lotmore global intelligence, security, et cetera
for a long long time. Gotto get to a brain Garon Rown's gonna
(06:00):
join us. We're gonna be talkingabout e vs electric vehicles and are they
worth the cost? Come up nextchild. Thereafter
Good morning. I'm Tony Cruz.Now that we have Secret Service Director Timberlee
Sheeedel, who spoke in front ofa Househovers like committee monday resignation and her
resigning yesterday, it's so interesting.Other information is coming out after the same
testimony is coming that we heard yesterday, particularly when as it pertains to homeland
(00:23):
security and more. Paul Violis,of course, is an expert in all
of these types of things. Fall. I appreciate your time again this morning.
What do you make of what wesaw Monday and yesterday with Pennsylvania State
Police Colonel Christopher Paris describing what happenedand went down? Well, first of
all, good morning, Tony.You know what I'm not surprised about as
(00:46):
far as the director stepping down,and you think anybody that watched that testimony
felt that it was excruciating and insultingall at the same time. And as
far as Pennsylvania State Policeman. Look, I've worked with them quite a bit
in the past. They are byfar one of the most professional organizations in
the country. Their SWAT team issecond and none, so they're a quality
(01:08):
organization. I think the bottom linehere, Tony, and this is the
really disturbing part about this. Istill have the same questions today as I
did the afternoon in July thirteenth.And the most frightening piece of information that
came out and was verified just severaldays ago is that the IRANNIE and Special
(01:30):
Strekeforce to refer to as the cudsTony they the Secret Service was aware of
the fact that they were targeting formerPresident Trump. They were aware of this
far in advance of July thirteen.Now, to put this in perspective,
this is one of the most lethallethal strekeforces on the planet. If they
(01:53):
were focused on president former President Trumpat the time, the question is one
who conducted the threat analysis that gavean inadequate protection package for President Trump at
that time? Someone at the SecretService has to answer for that. That
question hasn't been asked yet. Andthe second part about this is typically it's
(02:14):
the SAC, the Specialation in chargeof the local field office, which would
have been Pittsburg in this case,that has to sign off on the threat
analysis that opened that building up andtook it outside the perimeter. Who is
that? I still haven't heard that, and no one's asking that question.
So the bottom line here is thatnot just as they are, and we
keep hearing this colossal failure operationally.The public was put in a magnanimous risk
(02:43):
because of the inadequacy of identifying threat, which is security one oh one,
and then placing a corresponding threat planor package in place to counter that that
never happened. So you have toask yourself this toty one. Is this
blatant incompetence which you know, listen, the Secret Service is a great organization.
(03:05):
Everybody can pile on, but they'rea great organization. They've been messing
up in the past. Okay,I get it, But was this blatant
in competence or did someone just intentionallyhas so much disdain for this guy that
they just said, no, we'rejust not doing it. There's only two
options there, Tony. There's onlytwo options, and we need to get
the answer to that. I've beenthinking about that, and you know,
(03:27):
I hesitate to go conspiracy theories onall this stuff because we hear so many
conspiracy theories that you know that seemloopy. But to your point, I
have wondered that ever since we heardthat President Trump's life was in danger because
the Iranians were coming after him,and they have attempted to kill Americans on
American soil, particularly in New York. As I understand it, that is
(03:49):
correct, Tony, and we aretalking about a streamed force. And I
will tell you this with certainty,Tony, that if this particular group,
because if they had this side ofthat they were going to use that venue,
that shooter would have gotten his shotoff. Former President Trump wouldn't be
with us anymore. That guy wouldhave assimilated back in the crowd. He
(04:09):
would have been on a plane andbe having coffee and Tehran later that day.
So that is a stock there.They were aware of that threat.
And this is a disturbing part.Whether you like Trump or not makes no
difference. Here's the thing. Therewere a ton of American citizens in that
venue. All of them were placedat risk. Absolutely, So somebody better
(04:32):
start asking the right questions. Whydo you think, well, we heard
Congress trying to ask questions, whydo you think Cheatle had no answers the
other security issues because you don't wantto unveil secret service secrets, so to
speak, Tony, I will betyou dinner at Roffins for a week.
(04:54):
He had all of the answers Tony. She had the answers that night.
He was coached by their attorneys asto what to say and the standard response.
Her you know, standard statement wasclearly coached. She had. It
was sort of like taking the fifthonly Terman administrative perspective, and it was
(05:17):
foreseeable anybody that knew anything about testifyingfrom the Congress years, she was coming
in with a plate statement. Andthat's exactly what she did. Rescue Swart.
She has the answers instead of plentyof other people. They just haven't
shared those. Well, I wishI had you for a whole hour,
because they got an hour's worth ofquestions. Maybe we can get back together.
(05:38):
I hope this week. I'd lovetalking to you, Paul, as
always, thanks so much, appreciateyour time. Paul violis expert in all
of these fields. Chief executive positiona Violet Group International, who has been
around corporate risk consulting and a lotmore global intelligence, security, et cetera
for a long long time. Gotto get to a brain Garon Rown's gonna
(06:00):
join us. We're gonna be talkingabout e vs electric vehicles and are they
worth the cost? Come up nextchild. Thereafter
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