October 2, 2024 • 8 mins
Iran launched at least 180 missiles into Israel on Tuesday, another sharp escalation of the monthslong conflict between Israel and the Iran-backed militias Hezbollah and Hamas and days before the 1 year anniversary of the Hamas attacks. Is this a game changer or more of the same? Helping us make sense of it all is former Army Major, Military Analyst MIke Lyons
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning. I'm Tony Cruz News Radio A forty W
a task with Mike Lyons, CNN Military analyst and Micah
Absolutely thank you for your time this morning. Are we
on the verge of war in the Middle East? Than?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning, Tony. Yeah. I think the wider conflict is here.
I think now with the attack yesterday, the two wave attack,
you know, we all saw it on CNN. We all saw,
you know, these missiles actually hit. We didn't necessarily shoot,
you know, these rallies, and the US forces didn't necessarily
intercept all of them. This time, we know that there
was there was definitely contact with the ground, and we've
(00:38):
got some limited reports on what the actual causties were.
There's likely some damage, but the bottom line is the
door is open up for the Israelis to respond back
militarily and go after nuclear targets. Last time, that attack
went back to the town where some of their nuclear facilities,
where I'll give you the analogy of like a bank
(00:59):
robber going and sticking a posted note on the safe
saying I'll come get this next time. But I think
at this point now Israel could expand this very easily
and have every right to do so.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Do they have a bomb that could actually cause havoc
at that location where the nuclear scientists are so to speak,
are the people that are working on this kind of weaponry.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, they absolutely do. You saw that what the bunker
busters that were used in Lebanon against Hesblah leadership. The
casualties in that must have been off the charts. I mean,
they only just didn't take out the leaders, they took
out their stats, they took out all the privates and
everybody associated. I mean, I just can't imagine exactly what
(01:45):
those casualties were. So that same kind of technology will
be used to dig deep into what the what the
Iranians have in their nuclear facilities. Now they've dispersed it.
There's multiple different targets, you know, there's kind of like
three opponents to making a bomb. You have to mine
it and rich it and put it on a weapon system.
(02:05):
And they'll likely go after that enrichment facility in Tants
or s fun that was the one that they got
last time, I thought, But they're going to likely spread
this around and go clearly after that capability.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it fair to separate Lebanese people from Hesblah, because
I think a lot of people don't really understand. You know,
it's either black or white, that that kind of thing.
Let's make no mistake. Iran wants Israel obliterated. Hesbelah wants
it obliterated. They don't believe it should even exist. I
(02:44):
don't think that the Israelis are coming from that vein.
But some people think that Israel now is the agitator.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Right. So Israel now has also has an incurasions on
the ground into Lebanon in order to secure a bigger
buffer space. I'll call it to get into two artillery
range and that's about i'd say twenty five to thirty kilometers,
not like last time when they occupied Beirut for many
years and had a much more of a different occupation.
(03:14):
And it sure is you have to separate the people out.
But like Gaza with the Palestinians and the terrorist organizations,
Hezbollah integrates itself with the civilian population. It's a little
bit different because civilian population is not as aligned with Hezbelat.
It's just that they have more resources, they're bigger. These
are proxy forces built by the Iranians over the past
(03:36):
forty years to do nothing more than to be the agitators.
To Israel to be that kind of first one of defense. Well,
now both of them are decimated. Iran is very exposed,
and I'd like to see the Lebanese people they have
a little more. The Lebanese army in particular could likely
come in on the side of Israel. And we saw
other our nations saying that they'll provide support and security
for Israel. So this could be the tipping point in
(03:57):
the least, if Israel decides to move forward and try
to at least take more capability military capability away from
the Iranians.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Tony Cruz with Mike Lionsy and in military analysts to
join us. Mike indicated that there are some Arab nations
that may possibly work with Israel. Did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, you see, Saudi Arabia obviously wants to do something.
They had Abram McCord's there, but has had to kind
of put that on hold. You had the Jordanian Foreign
Minister come out and say that they would be willing
to work with these other Arab nations to ensure Israel's security. Now,
I don't think that they have the influence over Iran
that I might project. You still have the Shiasuni divide
(04:38):
that exists in that part of the world. So, but
the fact of the matter is you have other Arab
nations now trying to at least mediate and get in
the middle of this situation. That's overall positive.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It is to your point. I was just confused by that,
just because we've heard that Sally Crown Prince Muhammed ben
Someon just a couple of weeks ago said he wouldn't
recognize Israel without a Palestinian state condemning Israeli occupation as
he said. That's why I was a little confused by that.
So thanks for articulating that now that we've seen that,
(05:15):
and yeah, you're right. I mean, it's interesting the Shiai
Sunni religions differ. And you know, from what I've understood
is if Israel was gone, they would just want to
end up fighting each other, these factions of religion. Because
of the leadership in these situations.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
ARNO doesn't have any allies, right. Their allies are terrorist organizations.
They're militia groups that exist in some of these countries.
There's no nation states that formerly support them, at least
within the Middle East. They've got Russia, China, there's other
that kind of access of evil. That's probably the biggest
danger is the escalation of this that would bring Russia
potentially into it. All they got their handsful of it
(05:55):
is right now. I don't think the Chinese would get
involved as well, but they could. They could supply military
equipment to the Iranians. But but there's no other country.
If you look at a map, there's no country that
could invade Israel. Let's say that's any we're close to
their boarder there. They're all surrounded by countries that are
feckless and wouldn't have any kind of capability to do that.
So that's the other side. The downside of Iran does
(06:15):
decide that with this attack, they're going to go it alone.
There's not other countries that got to support them.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
President Biden apparently is moving some proofs out of Iraq now,
saying that the mission there is completed. Is there a
little bit more to that? Did Israel probably prompt this
saying that they were going to, you know, engage with
Iran or something?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Well, I don't think we had that many troops there
to begin with, twenty five hundred mostly special ops, and
that's that they're not doing an important mission, but it's
more like protection of the force. We can't protect some
of those troops. We're seeing them come under attack and
kind of, you know, I'll give it the enough is enough.
We're going to kind of let, you know, let the
Iraqis have that now for their own devices at this point.
(06:59):
So I think that's really what that's coming from. We
don't want to see a tragedy that takes place there
where American forces get ambust or something that would be
that would be the worst possible scenario.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Benjamin Netan Yahoo seem to indicate that good news for
those who live in Iran that there's going to be
a regime change almost the other day.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, you saw. You know, you've got the Iron
state media trying to project power here. But there's definitely
indications that there's an underswell of revolution that could take
place in Iran that could overflow that government. I think
we're all hoping that for that to happen. It's been
you know, we're working on forty years, forty five years
since that revolution took place there. It's the number one
foreign policy failure of our country. I think, you know,
(07:38):
in our adult a lot of times Tony, and you know,
the last president Obama tried to fix it and couldn't
do it, and Iran still, you know, continues to rain
tear it down. So I think this is the time
of war. From Israel's perspective, They're going to try to
do what they can to take care of it and
do it and topple that regime if they could get
gets the chance.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Appreciate the time as almost Mike. Thank you so much.
Mike Liones Major mic Lions joining us here News Radio
eight forty whas Kentack Antas Morning News. Have a great week, Mike,
and thanks once again for being a part of our show.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We even like it, so
Speaker 1 (08:19):
We even like us No News
Good morning. I'm Tony Cruz News Radio A forty W
a task with Mike Lyons, CNN Military analyst and Micah
Absolutely thank you for your time this morning. Are we
on the verge of war in the Middle East? Than?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good morning, Tony. Yeah. I think the wider conflict is here.
I think now with the attack yesterday, the two wave attack,
you know, we all saw it on CNN. We all saw,
you know, these missiles actually hit. We didn't necessarily shoot,
you know, these rallies, and the US forces didn't necessarily
intercept all of them. This time, we know that there
was there was definitely contact with the ground, and we've
(00:38):
got some limited reports on what the actual causties were.
There's likely some damage, but the bottom line is the
door is open up for the Israelis to respond back
militarily and go after nuclear targets. Last time, that attack
went back to the town where some of their nuclear facilities,
where I'll give you the analogy of like a bank
(00:59):
robber going and sticking a posted note on the safe
saying I'll come get this next time. But I think
at this point now Israel could expand this very easily
and have every right to do so.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Do they have a bomb that could actually cause havoc
at that location where the nuclear scientists are so to speak,
are the people that are working on this kind of weaponry.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, they absolutely do. You saw that what the bunker
busters that were used in Lebanon against Hesblah leadership. The
casualties in that must have been off the charts. I mean,
they only just didn't take out the leaders, they took
out their stats, they took out all the privates and
everybody associated. I mean, I just can't imagine exactly what
(01:45):
those casualties were. So that same kind of technology will
be used to dig deep into what the what the
Iranians have in their nuclear facilities. Now they've dispersed it.
There's multiple different targets, you know, there's kind of like
three opponents to making a bomb. You have to mine
it and rich it and put it on a weapon system.
(02:05):
And they'll likely go after that enrichment facility in Tants
or s fun that was the one that they got
last time, I thought, But they're going to likely spread
this around and go clearly after that capability.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Is it fair to separate Lebanese people from Hesblah, because
I think a lot of people don't really understand. You know,
it's either black or white, that that kind of thing.
Let's make no mistake. Iran wants Israel obliterated. Hesbelah wants
it obliterated. They don't believe it should even exist. I
(02:44):
don't think that the Israelis are coming from that vein.
But some people think that Israel now is the agitator.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Right. So Israel now has also has an incurasions on
the ground into Lebanon in order to secure a bigger
buffer space. I'll call it to get into two artillery
range and that's about i'd say twenty five to thirty kilometers,
not like last time when they occupied Beirut for many
years and had a much more of a different occupation.
(03:14):
And it sure is you have to separate the people out.
But like Gaza with the Palestinians and the terrorist organizations,
Hezbollah integrates itself with the civilian population. It's a little
bit different because civilian population is not as aligned with Hezbelat.
It's just that they have more resources, they're bigger. These
are proxy forces built by the Iranians over the past
(03:36):
forty years to do nothing more than to be the agitators.
To Israel to be that kind of first one of defense. Well,
now both of them are decimated. Iran is very exposed,
and I'd like to see the Lebanese people they have
a little more. The Lebanese army in particular could likely
come in on the side of Israel. And we saw
other our nations saying that they'll provide support and security
for Israel. So this could be the tipping point in
(03:57):
the least, if Israel decides to move forward and try
to at least take more capability military capability away from
the Iranians.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Tony Cruz with Mike Lionsy and in military analysts to
join us. Mike indicated that there are some Arab nations
that may possibly work with Israel. Did I hear that correctly?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, you see, Saudi Arabia obviously wants to do something.
They had Abram McCord's there, but has had to kind
of put that on hold. You had the Jordanian Foreign
Minister come out and say that they would be willing
to work with these other Arab nations to ensure Israel's security. Now,
I don't think that they have the influence over Iran
that I might project. You still have the Shiasuni divide
(04:38):
that exists in that part of the world. So, but
the fact of the matter is you have other Arab
nations now trying to at least mediate and get in
the middle of this situation. That's overall positive.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It is to your point. I was just confused by that,
just because we've heard that Sally Crown Prince Muhammed ben
Someon just a couple of weeks ago said he wouldn't
recognize Israel without a Palestinian state condemning Israeli occupation as
he said. That's why I was a little confused by that.
So thanks for articulating that now that we've seen that,
(05:15):
and yeah, you're right. I mean, it's interesting the Shiai
Sunni religions differ. And you know, from what I've understood
is if Israel was gone, they would just want to
end up fighting each other, these factions of religion. Because
of the leadership in these situations.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
ARNO doesn't have any allies, right. Their allies are terrorist organizations.
They're militia groups that exist in some of these countries.
There's no nation states that formerly support them, at least
within the Middle East. They've got Russia, China, there's other
that kind of access of evil. That's probably the biggest
danger is the escalation of this that would bring Russia
potentially into it. All they got their handsful of it
(05:55):
is right now. I don't think the Chinese would get
involved as well, but they could. They could supply military
equipment to the Iranians. But but there's no other country.
If you look at a map, there's no country that
could invade Israel. Let's say that's any we're close to
their boarder there. They're all surrounded by countries that are
feckless and wouldn't have any kind of capability to do that.
So that's the other side. The downside of Iran does
(06:15):
decide that with this attack, they're going to go it alone.
There's not other countries that got to support them.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
President Biden apparently is moving some proofs out of Iraq now,
saying that the mission there is completed. Is there a
little bit more to that? Did Israel probably prompt this
saying that they were going to, you know, engage with
Iran or something?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Well, I don't think we had that many troops there
to begin with, twenty five hundred mostly special ops, and
that's that they're not doing an important mission, but it's
more like protection of the force. We can't protect some
of those troops. We're seeing them come under attack and
kind of, you know, I'll give it the enough is enough.
We're going to kind of let, you know, let the
Iraqis have that now for their own devices at this point.
(06:59):
So I think that's really what that's coming from. We
don't want to see a tragedy that takes place there
where American forces get ambust or something that would be
that would be the worst possible scenario.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Benjamin Netan Yahoo seem to indicate that good news for
those who live in Iran that there's going to be
a regime change almost the other day.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, yeah, you saw. You know, you've got the Iron
state media trying to project power here. But there's definitely
indications that there's an underswell of revolution that could take
place in Iran that could overflow that government. I think
we're all hoping that for that to happen. It's been
you know, we're working on forty years, forty five years
since that revolution took place there. It's the number one
foreign policy failure of our country. I think, you know,
(07:38):
in our adult a lot of times Tony, and you know,
the last president Obama tried to fix it and couldn't
do it, and Iran still, you know, continues to rain
tear it down. So I think this is the time
of war. From Israel's perspective, They're going to try to
do what they can to take care of it and
do it and topple that regime if they could get
gets the chance.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Appreciate the time as almost Mike. Thank you so much.
Mike Liones Major mic Lions joining us here News Radio
eight forty whas Kentack Antas Morning News. Have a great week, Mike,
and thanks once again for being a part of our show.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
We even like it, so
Speaker 1 (08:19):
We even like us No News
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