July 10, 2025 • 43 mins
Chuck Dizzle sits down Live & Direct with HeyDeon—one of Long Beach’s most authentic voices in music and honestly an artist you'll wish you discovered sooner.
In this episode, HeyDeon opens up about carving his own lane while carrying the legacy of his father, Deon “Trip Locc” Williams of The Twinz and how his music organically caught the attention of Snoop Dogg.
He breaks down how Vince Staples gave him advice early on, the journey from uploading on HotNewHipHop to crafting his signature blend of alternative, R&B, and storytelling, and how being a husband and father has shaped the man behind the mic.
We get into his latest single “Type Shit,” his upcoming project, and what he’s chasing next: timeless music that hits like a family BBQ and lives forever. Whether you’ve been following his journey or just now getting familiar—this Home Grown convo is packed with plenty insight for the artists and creatives.
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In this episode, HeyDeon opens up about carving his own lane while carrying the legacy of his father, Deon “Trip Locc” Williams of The Twinz and how his music organically caught the attention of Snoop Dogg.
He breaks down how Vince Staples gave him advice early on, the journey from uploading on HotNewHipHop to crafting his signature blend of alternative, R&B, and storytelling, and how being a husband and father has shaped the man behind the mic.
We get into his latest single “Type Shit,” his upcoming project, and what he’s chasing next: timeless music that hits like a family BBQ and lives forever. Whether you’ve been following his journey or just now getting familiar—this Home Grown convo is packed with plenty insight for the artists and creatives.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, back at it, Chuck Dizzle, live direct, Man,
keep it the homegrown as always. Man, love and having
these conversations with folks on a come up, introducing new people,
new talent to you, and some you may be familiar with,
some it might be your first time hearing. It's a
pleasure to have this dude in the building with me
right now. Man, kind of seeing this journey and grow
(00:27):
for the last couple of years. And he's not your
typical artist from Long Beach, and I love it about him. Man, Hey,
Dion is here, Man, what's going on, big dog?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's good Man.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey. So, so when people say your name, it's just
you do you? Hey? Dion? Is Dion? How how do
you prefer people who address you when it comes to
the artistry.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Honestly, the way I I put my name was like
to be like a greeting. So at the end of
the day, it's like it's easy for people. They don't
have to say like, hey, hey Dion. It's just like
hey Dion. You know, it's just one one. It's easy.
It's easy that way.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like I was saying, Man, I love I love being
able to kind of witness the journey, you know, of
your career over the last few years, man, and just
kind of seeing you evolve and figure things out and
just just coming to your own style. Man. For for
people that are hearing you for the first time, well,
you gotta you gotta saw this dropping and it'll be
(01:25):
out for some people that's gonna be listening to this
down the line, type shit right, type shit is gonna
be dropping or is out, depending on when you're watching
or seeing this. How would you describe Hey Dion sound
for the people that's listening or plans on listening for
the very first time.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I think I'm the embodiment of love and community.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I think that's the best way to describe my music
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And is that an intentional thing? Is this something that
you've tried to make that mark from inception from from
jump or since let me ask you before I ask
you that, has it always been heydon the name? Did
you go about something else prior to this?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I would never mention my.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I would never even some people know, but I never
I completely escaped that that world because I felt like
that was my trial run. Okay, that was me high
school trying to trying to you know, like take other
people shine just for a moment, but I wasn't really serious.
(02:29):
But when I was like, I actually want to do
this and I put my name in.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It, intentional about it, Yeah, gotcha. So with that being said,
so community, what was another word you just said?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Love?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Love? When you decided to make that switch, all the
embodiment of those types of things, you want to make
sure that that was in the music.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, the forefront, gotcha. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So when I started, I was like, this is my reality,
you know, like before it was just like I was
Chief keep Air. So so you have like understanding like
what type of music I was just trying to make
for that time.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But it wasn't successful at scrubbing all that off the
off social media or the internet or is.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It pretty much because like those sites don't exist no more?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Like what was it?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
A hot new hip hop?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Like people not really using that no more into uplttle
music you know.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So it was yeah, what was the other one? It
was like it had a monkey on it?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
No, not no, because I'm thinking of something else. Not
I'm not, You're not thinking of napster right?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, it was another one.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It was it was like a I know, you know,
no yeah, it was like another mixtape type platform.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I can't remember exactly, but like that was the only
like sites I was using back then. YouTube, just YouTube
and hot new hip hop praying I get a like
a little blog post by Elevator. Those are my times then,
but nothing real serious now.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That what's wild is that for folks that don't know
you're attached to legacy as well. Man your Pops' trip
Lok of the Twins growing up? Was that the introduction
to music for for you? Or you know, did you
have another? Like I'm asking you this because I've always
seen this with people that have family that's in music.
(04:24):
Either they want to do it their own way or
they embrace the advantages that they have. What was it
for you in terms of like the music? Was it
something that growing up? He was like, damn, I kind
of want to do that? Or is it like let
me I don't want to even be remotely close to
that because that's not my lane.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I feel like growing up, we never really thought about
it so much. Like my dad there was sports sports.
Is it like music? We love music? It was like
for the kids, it's sports. Put them in sports, basketball, football, soccer, baseball, whatever,
whatever sports all year long.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's what it was for it.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But I played trafoball like majority of my life and then,
like I remember, my dad was like, oh, your brother
playing football. You should be out there playing football. And
then that's when my football journey started, Like because the
first time you put me out there, I was by
myself and I was like I quit the first week. Yeah,
after bear crawling. I was like, I was like, I
wasn't trying to bear crawl, Like I was used to
(05:22):
playing basketball, like I'm cool with sprints, you know, and
not getting on my hands, and that wasn't for me.
But eventually I ended up like enjoying football, like I
really loved it, but my heart was in basketball so much.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
But I knew I was better in football.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Ball got you got.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But when I made the Swiss to go back to basketball,
it was kind of too late. Like even though like
I played at poll, but at the same time, I
feel like my calling was probably football because that's where
my skills was at.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I didn't have to think too deeply.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I knew I got it, like I can go out
there be confident and like I was always progressing, like
whereas basketball you got to always work on your game
in basketball, you know, like football too, but at the
same time it's you can have like things about you
got it, you got yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Basketball it's people getting taller.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I wasn't. I wasn't that tall, you know. I was
four eleven in high school. Yeah, ninth grade, tenth grade,
then eleventh grade I got to like five four, and
then senior year I was I was already this. So
so my years of like beginning of high school, I
was short in the sports world, so like I probably
would have been better in football just playing corner.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Like I was.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, where I was at, I was playing corner,
you know, corner end slot bro.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So so what the what did the introduction come with
music for you?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Then?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
If if sports sports sports was your life, and then
you know, I'm sure after high school you realize or
maybe you it's like, Okay, this may not be the
thing that's gonna pan out for me. Is that what
kind of turned the music on? Or were you kind
of always dibbling and dabbling with it as well?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Only I think me and my friends we used to
like freestyle and just have fun around. Yeah, player around,
and I was like one day I was like I
woke up one morning I told my mom. I was like,
I'm about to make music. And I just told my mom.
I didn't tell my dad or nothing. I didn't tell nobody.
I just like, I was like, I'm about to make music.
I'm gonna try it out. And then I was doing
doing it, putting it out. People was liking it. And
(07:16):
then like I had close homes, they was like, cuse
I was like that shit trash Ralph, and I was like,
I remember I told myself, I said it's okay. I said,
I'm gonna learn it. I'm gonna get good. And then
they're gonna come back around. They're gonna be like they're
gonna forget I was even trash man.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, what if that What if that ForSight come in though,
because a lot of people, you know, that can be discouraging,
you know what I'm saying, especially early on trying to
do it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You know, sometimes that's I've never done it, never had
done it, and it's like the first time I was like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
That's what I'm saying. That's that's make or break for
a lot of people. So what did that confidence come
in from? From your site to be like, all right, nah,
let me let me. I'm gonna prove it to myself,
but let me prove other people wrong as well and
show them I can actually be better at this.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think it's probably the sports, probably a competitive aspect
of it. But at the same time, I feel like
I'm confident. I feel like I could do whatever I
want to do, Like I don't even have to think
about it. I feel like if I just if you
practice that something so much, then you'll start learning the
you know, the tricks of what works for you, not
necessarily what works for others, but what works for me
(08:23):
is like practice and then like seeing where did I
want to go sonically, you know, like what would be
my separation, what would be my story? And I feel
like that panned out a little bit better for me.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So you were developing and figuring this out prior to
I'm just using this as a reference because you said
the chief key thing, right, Yeah, this was in that era,
in that mode as well, or this was like at
what point did you realize, like, Okay, damn, I'm actually
getting better at this. People are responding to it in
a way where now I feel like I can take
(08:56):
this serious.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I feel like it was very early on I stripped
all the music down and.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It was Vince Staples.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Vince Staples told me, he said, you ain't gotta he said, like,
you ain't got to do like what Jo Pops and
them did, like the like the g funk type sound man,
you know, like you could figure out something for yourself.
And then like that's when I started doing like the
singing stuff, like melodic, just trying to be more melodic
and like find a different pocket. And my thing back
then was like I wanted to fuse like alternative and
(09:29):
R and B together, just like this was twenty eighteen.
I didn't feel like it was too many people doing
that during that time, and the sound was very alternative,
and like when I put that out, the response was
way much bigger, and like people didn't understand, like where
I'm coming from from the East Side, Why are you
making alternative music? We know your family, we know your ties.
(09:50):
Where was that coming from? Like what was the influence
that brought that there? And it was like I feel
like I was listening to so much music during that time,
and like I was like, how can I fuse everything
that I love together but make it me and be
able to stand out that way.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I think that that that worked out in your
favorite because I feel like that's where you caught a
lot of attention. That's where a lot of folks are like, wait,
who is this kid? Like, yeah, who is he? For one,
and then when they realized that, oh damn, you know,
they put put the connection to Pops and it's just
it brings more questions about right, but one thing that's
not questioned was like, Yo, the talent is there, and
(10:26):
all right, what's he gonna do with this? So I
feel like a lot of people people were just watching
at that point in time and kind of like that's
where the initial spark for like, Yo, who is this kid?
What is he about? You know what I mean? That's
what all the questions kind of came in. And the
reason why I asked you about this is because, like
I said, either people embrace you know, the lineage and
the legacy, or they just want to completely go a
(10:46):
different route to show like no, I got my own lane.
So for you, I feel like it's a combination of both.
To think, the first go roude is like okay, yeah,
I going to the line of what possum was doing,
but now let me do my own shit. And it
was just as for you to be like okay, damn,
like people are paying attention to the sound.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, And what I would say also is like I
didn't kind of straight away because when I go back
and listen to like my pops and uncle music now,
it was very musical, it's still the same, like the
feeling of it is very it's very warm.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
They was very laid back.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Of course they're rapping, but it's more so like it's
space and like the music aspect of it live base
in music. And it's like I was doing it, but
they was already doing it. So it's like unconsciously kind
of like embracing what they did, but like how can
I be my own mark as well?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Just so I just started like incorporating.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Rap and singing in the in the music, whereas they
will like get it like a feature to sing the hook,
you know, like and I was like it worked for
me because I was I wasn't afraid of like not
being a Chris Brown, you know, like I was okay
with like just having a nice tone and nice note
(12:08):
to be able to hold and like real people in
and be like I can do this. I can wrap,
but also I can be on a more softer side melodically,
which works in favor. Now, you know, like as everybody's
like go to you know now you.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Mentioned you told moms, Why did you go go to
moms first versus versus pops anybody else to let them know? Like, man,
I want to I want to do this musically. Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think I wanted everybody else to find out about
it rather than like me go to them like try
to get guidance. I was like I needed to fail,
you know, I think I don't think people be wanting
to fail, Like I look at it as like trial
and error in life. I wanted to try it and
see like where my flaws are at, what I can
improve on it and go from there. And then like
(12:56):
by time like they heard my stuff, they was like oh,
like it was already going around like to even to
snooping them like before like I even said anything, like
it was like, you know, what's your son making music?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You know that? Yeah? Like no one knew.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It's just like I wanted to put myself out there
like it's about to be hey, Dion, and then like
if they go back, they ain't gonna be like, oh
your pole. Now, it wasn't gonna be one of those.
But it's okay if like people have those those opportunities
I enjoy like where my family and like the ties.
I embrace it, you know, like shoot, not that many
(13:36):
followers can you know, are around where it's like, yeah,
my father did music and the ain't got a classic project,
you know, like and I mean and again like that.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's again everybody has their own journey and their own story,
and I love how you put it, like y'a. I
want them to find out on their own and eventually
they did. That's how it went down. Now, you got
a couple of projects under your belt, and I want
you to kind of like tell people like the journey
of how these and what these projects mean to you
(14:10):
and how it leads into the new music that you
got going on right now. Okay, we got Sucker for
Love in twenty nineteen, Emotional rec in twenty twenty, and
then the EP that you dropped we Were Meant to
Be in twenty twenty two. How do you feel like
you've grown throughout each drop? Because you talk about you
kind of found yourself found that sound twenty eighteen ish
right twenty nineteen you dropped the project. Twenty twenty was
(14:32):
a crazy time. I felt like the title really kind
of like sums that all up right, And then the
twenty twenty two, which I love the direction from going
through an emotional rec and then we seeeah visually, we
see okay, we got a little some some okay, and
then you know, you and Wifey so talk about the
growth and that the path that you took between each project.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, I feel like in twenty nineteen I was man,
I was full of life, very experimental. I feel like
I was merging all the worlds that I loved together
as far as Sucker for Love. So you got Trap
Records where like I was on like I did dreams,
and then I was on the alternative side for like
(15:13):
the first half where it was like I want to
give like different perspectives of like my reality. And then
like I ended that project with Brick was like a
city homage at everybody loved and it was like east
Side Loan BEA's okay, now he's here, Now he's here,
you know. And then going to twenty twenty Emotional Wreck,
(15:37):
I wanted to like embrace fully R and B I
wanted to like have every song feel like a vibe.
I wanted to hit hard R and B. I didn't
want to like stray away from it. I want to
like be like, Okay, if I'm not going to be
a crazy singer, at least let me write crazy records
(15:58):
that will still penetrate. And it was great for me,
you know, like I feel like that project it changed
my life in ways, like it opened so many doors
and like, honestly, for the first time my manager now
to me back then during that time, yeah, you know,
it's like I feel like it was awakening for everyone.
(16:21):
They was like, oh, okay, we really understanding now, Like
he's going to go fully R and B. He's going
to be authentic, He's going to be himself, He's not
gonna need any features. During that time, I had no features.
I was only working with friends and every song was me, me, me, me,
you know, like no backgrounds for anybody else. Like I
(16:44):
feel like nowadays, I'm trying to I've been like slowly
embracing like collaboration, but during end, I was like I
need to kind of prove myself, you know, before I
kind of branch out. I want to be like I'm
also adding value, you know, right right.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I was going to ask you that too, like it
was are you is it more of making a point
to yourself and you kind of just explained like really worse,
really really for me. And then at the same time
it is for other people to showcase, like, Yo, this
is what I'm capable of doing. This is the value
that I bring to the table. So yo, if you
want to come to the table, or this is what
I can bring to take here it is you know
what I mean, that's a dope. That's a dope thing
(17:22):
to kind of not only do because you're jumping off
the ledge and kind of figuring it out, but then
when it works for you. I'm sure talk about that
feeling of getting the response from people and like oh man, yo,
I wasn't expecting this, or Yo, this is fire. You know.
I'm sure the responses that you would be getting from
from different people around that time.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Man, it was so many people, it was. It was
a I would say, it's a it's a blessing because
I feel like anything I do, like, of course it's
for me, and if others like it, that's a plus.
Because music is subjective, like you don't have to like somebody,
you know, I don't worse people to like it. During
(18:01):
that time, I was just putting it out and like
seeing where it goes, not necessarily trying to like jam
it down people throats, like I was only doing nine
songs each year, Like I wasn't flooding no markets.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And what's wild is that the time to win social
media is, like you, low key, in order to penetrate,
you have to flood. I mean, that's that's a strategy
that most people kind of kind of go at talk
about being an independent artist in these times and kind
of navigating through that. I mean, it's the art, but
(18:36):
also there's strategy behind it. How do you kind of
navigate between those two worlds of keeping the art where
it's at, but at the same time, like understanding that
this is a business and you kind of have to
participate in this world. I feel like.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I don't never have to think about that too much,
to be honest. I focus on the music, you know,
And I truly believe that there's artists that when they
put it out and they have that feeling, it will
reach who was supposed to reach at the right time.
And that's how I approach it. That's why I never
(19:15):
have too much. I don't be sitting on vaults. Like
I believe in being authentic, organic, and like when the
time is right, when I'm ready, you know, like I
don't like to force, you know, moments. I'm not forcing
any moment. So like even now with the record that
I'm about to put out is like I made the
(19:35):
record and I knew before I even recorded it.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I knew it. I told my homie, I said, Jay,
this is going to be it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I felt it, Like it's a feeling, like I'm always
chasing a feeling, so like records will move me in
a way, and I know, like if it moved me
that way, I can only imagine what they'll do to others,
right right.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Right, damn. I love the fact that it resonates and
it connects with you in that sense because there's a
level of like not only honesty, but you know, it
feels good when somebody enjoys what they do to this
point and can can just put it out there to
the world for other people to enjoy. Again, just for
(20:17):
the sake of the art, not for the clicks, not
for the views, not to impress this person or this
label or whatever the case may be. And I feel
like that's gonna always gonna be the thing that I
feel like you should always use as the north star
no matter where you go in your career. Like I
feel like that's gonna always keep you centered to the
point of like, yo, okay, this is who hey Dionne
is you know what I mean? Talk about where that
(20:40):
where that comes from? Is that something that's always been
rooted in you? Is that something that comes from from family?
Is it come from experiences in life?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How did you get to that point? Because a lot
of the reason why I asked this because I always
I try to give those that are listening to those
that are watching. You know, not everybody has that mentality,
and if they do have it, sometimes they straight from it.
So where how do you connect to that? Is that
something that's always been drawn from you?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Or I think it was just always me?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, Like I always feel like I'm I'm very transparent
and I'm fearless. Yeah, I would say I'm fearless. I
say I'm willing to take risks on myself. You know,
I'm willing to bet on myself. I trust in my
abilities and like my personality is very people will say
(21:33):
it's it feels like I draw people in like I
have like an energy that is unmatched, you know. Every time,
like people meet me for the first time, they tell
me their whole life story. Wow, Like I kid you,
not even my even my wife did it.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Like everybody I meet, they tell me everything about themselves
before I even say a word.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And this about saying are you You're not You're not
prying information, You're not asking anything.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I think I'm just like I'm always all ears and
always trying to be a sponge and true. I think
like honesty and like the embodiment of like self respect,
you know, and love. It's just love, Like I got
love for everybody. I don't never have any like stressors,
(22:21):
you know, like that weigh me down to where it's
like it affects, you know, my relationships with others. You know,
Like I'm always like a social like everybody say I'm
a social butterfly. But at the same time, I feel
like I'm willing to talk, you know, I'm willing to.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Like hear people out here to their stories. I measured
in history.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I want to know like past, you know, like that's
what I'm about you know, like everybody has a story,
you know, when it's all said and done, and I'm
going like, I hope someone like knows my story, you know,
and like want to research about me a little bit,
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Talk about that. But as far as the history, I
didn't know that about you. So with history, if you
weren't doing music, what would you be doing.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I feel like God knew I was gonna do music,
So I feel like it was like no way around it.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It was no way around it.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I was doing of course, like I was major in history,
but it's like the music was pulling me, like come
back here. You got to tell something you're not you know,
like you have something to say, you know, And I
feel like I needed to be here, you know. I
feel like I am what we need right now now
(23:37):
a true representation of young adults, like actually mature young adults,
you know, like even though I'm older now. But it's
like during the time when I started, I was like
very forward thinking as far as like, oh yeah, I'm
gonna have me a lady, Oh yeah, I'm gonna be married,
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like and I was gonna be vocal about that, you know.
I want to be like there's statistics that show there's.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Happyness in the black community.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Facts.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You know, it's love out there, that people actually go
home to two parent households. Yeah, you know, I want
to be like yeah, like where I stay, Like, you know,
I'm surrounded by everything, but I have my father and
my mom, right, you know, I got love around me.
You know, Like, who's going to be that next voice
(24:31):
that's gonna broadcast that and make it okay?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, because you usually hear the stories of like, you know,
artists who don't who don't showcase their relationships. You know
what I mean that they do R and B you
know what I mean. They sing about love, but are
they really in love? You know what I mean? Do
they really have have those things? They're always chasing for
it all, but they never, like you said, necessarily really embodied. Man.
(24:57):
Talk about the importance of doing that out to your
queen too, because I remember seeing it. I'm like, oh
he found somebody. Oh oh yeah, he in love love
And I love seeing you display that and put that
in the forefront for the audience to actually see. Man.
You said you guys first met she told you were
a life story.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah. We talked for eleven hours.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
What straight?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Eleven hours? What was y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Was that her place? We talked eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
No nap, no nothing in between, and then I was like, oh,
you need to eat something, and then I got her food.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Wait a minute, wait, eleven hours straight, bro.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I left from school. Cal say long.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Beach shouts calsey, long beach. Yeah, wait, eleven hours is
a long time time.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Don't exist when you around people that pash but got
I said, r bea shit right there, come on, heit
darn you know damn.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So it's just eleven hours of you listening or eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Of listening, respawning, questioning. Okay, yeah, tell me everything about herself?
That's far and I say everything, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
What are we doing? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What are we doing? That's that's what we're doing now though,
you see what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I can handle that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, you know. I love the fact that one thing
we have in common is I think you because you
commented on one of my posts other day, our me
and my wife just celebrated our thirteenth year wedding anniversary.
Your wife the same thing, Yeah, same date, June ninth,
(26:39):
June nine, Yeah, right, I don't do all this eleven
hours and get the June ninth. June ninth man shout
out to wife, amazing. What is what is marriage taught
taught you about yourself?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I feel like it was already married, so I feel
like each day is a new data, far more more
in love and learn something new about it each other,
you know, in ourselves too.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
The marriage was like the the ceiling, but we yeah,
we beyond that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You know, you do you think because you hear this
conversation of do you think marriage the the act of marriage,
like the ceremony? Do you think that's that's important? Or
is it more important to find your partner be in love?
Like do you have do you actually have to get married?
Do you think so?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I don't feel like you have to, but I feel
like if y'all both want it, then do it. But
it's not for everybody. Most people don't like titles, That's
that's the thing, you know. And I wanted the title
and she wanted the titles. So it's like made sense,
you know, Like I feel like you.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Have to do what works for you guys.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You know, like people out there, if you want to
find your partner and you like, think about marriage, and
they on the fence or like they don't like the title,
maybe you just got to leave it as that, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You don't be hard pressed for either way.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, because at the end of the day, like it's
the relationship between YouTube, you know, like marriage is like certificate,
that's that's government documents, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
But that's why I was getting at that, because I've
seen people ruin great things because of the title and
wanting the title. One person didn't necessarily care for it.
The other person was like, man, I have to get
this based off of what I've seen growing up and
what society says. And it's like but at the end
of the day, what do YouTube like? What's important for
(28:52):
you too? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think the question should be asked early too. M hmm,
Like what's the long term? You know, are you in
it for the long term? Is it something that you
want for the future. Is it something that you ever.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Thought of, specifically marriage?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, specifically, like like is it something that you want
to do, not necessarily like like you know, it's people
that's out there. It's like, oh yeah, I think I'm
gonna get married one day. But there's people that know
I don't want you feel me and then they like
or they'll be like, you know, like when I find
the one right. Maybe those are the situations where like
(29:31):
people are like on the fence er It's like they
don't feel like they really have to one, but they are,
you know, content with where they at.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And some people are just searching for I don't know.
I think some people use that as an excuse. So
they're searching for an undescribable feeling or a scenario that
probably will never exist, you know what I'm saying. And
I'm not saying settled. But it's like, like you said,
those questions have to be asked earlier. You got to
know within yourself what you want at the end of
(30:00):
the day, you know what I'm saying. The communication is
super important. Now another thing, man, fatherhood. I always like
like connecting with artists about that. Man, and I've seen
your journey as a father as well. Man, talk about
your little one, and you know what being a father
has taught Dion throughout the years. You know, it's opposed
to like the artist, you know, husband, now father, Like
(30:22):
what has that shown you about yourself? What characteristics have
you learned about yourself that you feel like fatherhood has
brought out of you.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I thought I had way more patience.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You thought you did.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, psych, Yeah, that's that's that's the big one. Like
I think, like I realized I don't really like tolerate
a lot of a lot of things, like as far
as like misbehavior that like you got to have a
little bit more patience for with the kids. So every
day is a learning for me, like a new day.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Each day.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's like, Okay, he's going to do something, but like
you know, I know he's gonna do this some time. I'd
be like, man, I'd be like, don't do it right,
I'm telling you, you know it's the second time. Man,
you know, Like that's that's the big thing as far
as father is.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But you know what's funny is that as I'm hearing
you talk and just listen about listening to some of
the things and some of the ways you described you.
So we had an off air conversation about you you
kid as well. A lot of the traits that he
has they come from you. Some of the things that
I mean in terms of like the fearlessness and the confidence,
Like I feel like that is is a reflection of yourself.
(31:31):
I mean, so it's a it's a thing that's it's
amazing to watch. Like I always tell like, kids that
will hold up that mirror in front of you and
it's either things that you like or don't like about
yourself and you have to deal with them in that moment,
you know what I mean. Definitely, what dad advice could
you give to all the other dads out there? So
some father advice based off of your experience as a
father to other fathers out there.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I will say, let your kid do what they desire
as long as it doesn't harm them. That's the best advice,
you know. Let them find their journey. I love that,
you know, and I always be willing to like learn
from them because you know, that's what we're in it
(32:15):
for at the end of the day, we're learning from them.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I love this, man, I love it. You know. I
got to ask you about the project some music man
type shit is depending on when you watch this and
when you're listening to this, it's either gonna be dropping
soon or it's gonna be out you dropping it on
the June twentieth, June twenty, okay, So it's leading up
to a project. If so, do you have any details
(32:39):
for us or are we keeping things hushed until it
actually is for the people to receive right now?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Just we're working, I would say, working. We have things ready,
but working continuously in the gym, perfecting the craft, trying
to make sure the message is clear, you know, Like
that's my big thing as far as like with anything
I do, the intention has to be fully put in it.
(33:07):
The message has to be well delivered. I wanted to
be executed the way I hear it in my head,
you know, and see it visually, you know, so by
the time it hits you, guys, it's like I already
knew what it was going to do for me.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Do you have a problem with handing over your art
to people? And what I mean by that? You know,
you mentioned being being self sufficient, doing things on your own,
and I think that's that's something to pride yourself in.
You're not waiting on anybody else. Nobody's gonna hold your hand.
But at some point too, you also have to you know,
(33:44):
it's business. People have to get involved, whether it be visuals,
whether you know, deliverables, whatever the case may be. How
do you how do you navigate with then letting the
responsibility and go to let other people handle your art.
Are you good with that? Are you getting better with that?
What's what's your take on it?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I feel like it's continuously learning how to you know,
be a team player, you know, Like I feel like
in the beginning, I was very like trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Of course, like I had help.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's always helped, I will say that, like it's always producers,
there's always director friends, like it's always people around around me.
But as far as like management type help, I feel
like this is like it has been very new for me.
Even in the beginning, it was like always new, like
how to voice my opinion and hope that it doesn't
(34:43):
affect relationships, you know, because in the day, like it's
still me that's being branded out there, you know. And
I think collaboration is great for me now that I'm learning.
It's like collaboration is perfec to be like talk.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Some things out. You know.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Sometimes I have the idea and I'll just bring it
to the table and like this is what I think,
you know, and it works sometimes, you know, sometimes I
got to go back to the drawing board. But it's
been an actual learning curve for me, like as far
as like navigating, like being able to sometimes like be
hands off on stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But for the most part.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I feel like creatively, I'm always like thinking about everything
about it, like the visual, what I wanted to look like,
the angle I wanted to be shot, you know, like
how I'm addressed, you know. And then the music is
like I know, like what I hear, like what mood
I want to be in? You know what the world
(35:44):
is gonna like see me as you know? And I
feel like summer is me? So do you have a
title for the album you'll see?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Do you have a title? You don't have to tell
me the title. Do you have a title? Yeah, it's ready,
you know. You know the direction in terms like do
we if we? If we can say the album is
percentage wise? How done is the project?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It's always worked to do eighty, it's always worked to
do ninety, it's always worked.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
To do Okay, is it a higher? Just give me
a higher or lower? Higher than fifty percent?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Depends on today this name right here.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
We ain't gonna get no answers from hey Dion right now.
It depends on the day. Okay, what today? What about today?
Where we at percentage wise?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Today, work needs to be done. Come on, now, come
on now, I feel like you know, I know when
it's ready.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Okay, okay, that's a better question. How do you know
when it's ready?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I'm no longer trying to perfect the world?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I'm no longer like, oh I need to shoot this,
or I need one more song, or oh I need
to change this lyric or I need to sing this
better like once when that's all out the picture?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Then have you ever been in that space before? Or
is it all because you said it's always worked to
be done? So do you ever get to the point
where things are complete or is it just at some
point you just got to cut it off? No, you
feel get to the point. Okay, that's that's fair. That's
that's what I want to know. This is it? Because
I'm like, hey, bro, like if that's the case, we
might be waiting for a minute, but you always be
(37:32):
like yeah, okay, you know, Okay, I'm sorry, I got
to every Now Now I got another question. So when
do you know what's going to be done? What's the
missing component at this point?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
At this point, I feel like I just need more,
more records, more, just more records that uh that still
has the same feeling that I started off with. I
feel like it's balanced. I feel like projects should have
(38:04):
roller coaster feels, you know, like be able to pinpoint
certain emotions out of people, and I feel like it's
some emotions that I need to tap into be able to.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Finish it, mean to cut you off. Is it anything
you feel like you haven't tapped into either from life
experiences stories like what is there for people to know
about you that you haven't kind of given them as
of right now without giving them the actual thing, Like
what do you think emotions you feel like you haven't
(38:35):
tapped into.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I feel like I gave a lot of heartbreak songs
I've had some I love this feeling that we have
connection type songs. I feel like I need that real
undeniable like this is a love record but feels like
(39:00):
a barbecue, you know, like the family barbecue, Like you're
gonna put that on, like I want. I feel like
I'm chasing that right now. Okay, I'm chasing that loving happiness,
you know, Like I'm I want to do like my
version of you know, Donielle Jones say what you know?
(39:21):
You know, like I feel like I want that, you
know that type Phil d you know.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
The Frankie Beverly and May, Yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I want that timeless you know that timeless record like yeah,
any generation. I feel like as an artist, that's what
I really want. I crave for that, you know. I
crave for that moment to be like, yeah, I got one,
I got one that can standard TESTA times, I feel
like I've been close, but I feel like I haven't
(39:56):
like quite got it yet, you know, like I'm I'm be.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
There again for the people that are listening for the
first time. Which one do you feel like in your
catalog is the closest to that?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
M As far as Johnny Rice to.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You, to you in your catalog, which one do you
feel like that that feeling that you're chasing? You said,
I got close? Which which ones are we talking to?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Just give you can give me one like, which one
do you feel like is the closest to that feeling
that you're going for?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
But as far as like my old works, I wanted
to fully embody like an era in music which was
brick and I was like, how can I pay homage
to my family lineage and where I'm from, and I
was able to do that and it worked very well.
(40:49):
So I felt like I knew I can make that
type of record where even I remember DJ Hagg said
I reminded him of Anthony Hamilton and.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Nate Dark in one song, and I was like, Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
At the time, I was like, I'm not hearing it,
But as I grow, I'm like, I understand.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
It's just like the delivery was was there.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I feel like I was very intentional with what type
of record I was making, you know. I feel like
that's what it is in music. It's like you have
to go in knowing exactly what you want to do.
Like of course you could play around and like hope,
pray that it works. But at the same time, like
anytime I'm going in, I know like I need to
tell this story. I need this type of feeling and
(41:39):
until I get it, then that's when.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
For Yeah, the year can end without hey, Dion doing
what What's what's on your your your bucket list? What
things are you manifesting? It could be career wise, family wise,
life wise, what's one thing? But the year can end
without you doing what?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Getting everything? I deserve.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Anything that God has in store for me, I will
have it. So the year won't end without that happening.
There go, you know, like anything I want, if I
want to, you know, be number one on the charts,
I'm gonna have to God, you know I'm gonna work.
I'm gonna work. But you know everything is written. I'm
(42:26):
just I'm just stepping into the light and enjoying the ride.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
One thing I've been trying to say every day at
least reminded myself and I got this dude by the
name of Mara Golden. It's like I'm becoming exactly who
and what God designed me to be, you know what
I mean. And that's what I hear. You know you're
not chasing it, You're just embodying it, you know what
I mean. And like you said, you know you're gonna
appreciate it when it happens, you know what I mean.
(42:53):
We don't have a title, we don't have a date.
We'll keep you posted for show. All right, It's hey, Dion,
I appreciate you, brother. I'm glad we got a chance
to finally do this again. I've been I've been watching
the journey for a couple of years now, well, damn
about five six years now. So it's a pleasure to
kind of sit down with you and chop it up
and see the growth, see the evolution. I'm just looking
(43:13):
forward to see continue to see the journey, bro. Anything
you want to tell the people before we get a out.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Of here, Hey Dion, Yeah, June twentieth type shit, Live life, love,
take it day by day, second by second, Appreciate everything
you have around you.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
You don't need to.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Change for nobody, because like, who you are is who
you are, and you know, like it's either you're gonna
have love or you're gonna have hate. And if you
move with love, no one can get in your way.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Boom, I appreciate you, man, homegrown chuck dizzle. Hey Dion,
we'll catch y'all next time. See it
All right, back at it, Chuck Dizzle, live direct, Man,
keep it the homegrown as always. Man, love and having
these conversations with folks on a come up, introducing new people,
new talent to you, and some you may be familiar with,
some it might be your first time hearing. It's a
pleasure to have this dude in the building with me
right now. Man, kind of seeing this journey and grow
(00:27):
for the last couple of years. And he's not your
typical artist from Long Beach, and I love it about him. Man, Hey,
Dion is here, Man, what's going on, big dog?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's good Man.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Hey. So, so when people say your name, it's just
you do you? Hey? Dion? Is Dion? How how do
you prefer people who address you when it comes to
the artistry.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Honestly, the way I I put my name was like
to be like a greeting. So at the end of
the day, it's like it's easy for people. They don't
have to say like, hey, hey Dion. It's just like
hey Dion. You know, it's just one one. It's easy.
It's easy that way.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Like I was saying, Man, I love I love being
able to kind of witness the journey, you know, of
your career over the last few years, man, and just
kind of seeing you evolve and figure things out and
just just coming to your own style. Man. For for
people that are hearing you for the first time, well,
you gotta you gotta saw this dropping and it'll be
(01:25):
out for some people that's gonna be listening to this
down the line, type shit right, type shit is gonna
be dropping or is out, depending on when you're watching
or seeing this. How would you describe Hey Dion sound
for the people that's listening or plans on listening for
the very first time.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I think I'm the embodiment of love and community.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I think that's the best way to describe my music
right now.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
And is that an intentional thing? Is this something that
you've tried to make that mark from inception from from
jump or since let me ask you before I ask
you that, has it always been heydon the name? Did
you go about something else prior to this?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I would never mention my.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I would never even some people know, but I never
I completely escaped that that world because I felt like
that was my trial run. Okay, that was me high
school trying to trying to you know, like take other
people shine just for a moment, but I wasn't really serious.
(02:29):
But when I was like, I actually want to do
this and I put my name in.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
It, intentional about it, Yeah, gotcha. So with that being said,
so community, what was another word you just said?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Love?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Love? When you decided to make that switch, all the
embodiment of those types of things, you want to make
sure that that was in the music.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, the forefront, gotcha. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So when I started, I was like, this is my reality,
you know, like before it was just like I was
Chief keep Air. So so you have like understanding like
what type of music I was just trying to make
for that time.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
But it wasn't successful at scrubbing all that off the
off social media or the internet or is.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It pretty much because like those sites don't exist no more?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Like what was it?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
A hot new hip hop?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Like people not really using that no more into uplttle
music you know.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So it was yeah, what was the other one? It
was like it had a monkey on it?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
No, not no, because I'm thinking of something else. Not
I'm not, You're not thinking of napster right?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, it was another one.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
It was it was like a I know, you know,
no yeah, it was like another mixtape type platform.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I can't remember exactly, but like that was the only
like sites I was using back then. YouTube, just YouTube
and hot new hip hop praying I get a like
a little blog post by Elevator. Those are my times then,
but nothing real serious now.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
That what's wild is that for folks that don't know
you're attached to legacy as well. Man your Pops' trip
Lok of the Twins growing up? Was that the introduction
to music for for you? Or you know, did you
have another? Like I'm asking you this because I've always
seen this with people that have family that's in music.
(04:24):
Either they want to do it their own way or
they embrace the advantages that they have. What was it
for you in terms of like the music? Was it
something that growing up? He was like, damn, I kind
of want to do that? Or is it like let
me I don't want to even be remotely close to
that because that's not my lane.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I feel like growing up, we never really thought about
it so much. Like my dad there was sports sports.
Is it like music? We love music? It was like
for the kids, it's sports. Put them in sports, basketball, football, soccer, baseball, whatever,
whatever sports all year long.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That's what it was for it.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
But I played trafoball like majority of my life and then,
like I remember, my dad was like, oh, your brother
playing football. You should be out there playing football. And
then that's when my football journey started, Like because the
first time you put me out there, I was by
myself and I was like I quit the first week. Yeah,
after bear crawling. I was like, I was like, I
wasn't trying to bear crawl, Like I was used to
(05:22):
playing basketball, like I'm cool with sprints, you know, and
not getting on my hands, and that wasn't for me.
But eventually I ended up like enjoying football, like I
really loved it, but my heart was in basketball so much.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
But I knew I was better in football.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Ball got you got.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But when I made the Swiss to go back to basketball,
it was kind of too late. Like even though like
I played at poll, but at the same time, I
feel like my calling was probably football because that's where
my skills was at.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I didn't have to think too deeply.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I knew I got it, like I can go out
there be confident and like I was always progressing, like
whereas basketball you got to always work on your game
in basketball, you know, like football too, but at the
same time it's you can have like things about you
got it, you got yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Basketball it's people getting taller.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I wasn't. I wasn't that tall, you know. I was
four eleven in high school. Yeah, ninth grade, tenth grade,
then eleventh grade I got to like five four, and
then senior year I was I was already this. So
so my years of like beginning of high school, I
was short in the sports world, so like I probably
would have been better in football just playing corner.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Like I was.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, yeah, where I was at, I was playing corner,
you know, corner end slot bro.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So so what the what did the introduction come with
music for you?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Then?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
If if sports sports sports was your life, and then
you know, I'm sure after high school you realize or
maybe you it's like, Okay, this may not be the
thing that's gonna pan out for me. Is that what
kind of turned the music on? Or were you kind
of always dibbling and dabbling with it as well?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Only I think me and my friends we used to
like freestyle and just have fun around. Yeah, player around,
and I was like one day I was like I
woke up one morning I told my mom. I was like,
I'm about to make music. And I just told my mom.
I didn't tell my dad or nothing. I didn't tell nobody.
I just like, I was like, I'm about to make music.
I'm gonna try it out. And then I was doing
doing it, putting it out. People was liking it. And
(07:16):
then like I had close homes, they was like, cuse
I was like that shit trash Ralph, and I was like,
I remember I told myself, I said it's okay. I said,
I'm gonna learn it. I'm gonna get good. And then
they're gonna come back around. They're gonna be like they're
gonna forget I was even trash man.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, what if that What if that ForSight come in though,
because a lot of people, you know, that can be discouraging,
you know what I'm saying, especially early on trying to
do it for the first time.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You know, sometimes that's I've never done it, never had
done it, and it's like the first time I was like, Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
That's what I'm saying. That's that's make or break for
a lot of people. So what did that confidence come
in from? From your site to be like, all right, nah,
let me let me. I'm gonna prove it to myself,
but let me prove other people wrong as well and
show them I can actually be better at this.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I think it's probably the sports, probably a competitive aspect
of it. But at the same time, I feel like
I'm confident. I feel like I could do whatever I
want to do, Like I don't even have to think
about it. I feel like if I just if you
practice that something so much, then you'll start learning the
you know, the tricks of what works for you, not
necessarily what works for others, but what works for me
(08:23):
is like practice and then like seeing where did I
want to go sonically, you know, like what would be
my separation, what would be my story? And I feel
like that panned out a little bit better for me.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
So you were developing and figuring this out prior to
I'm just using this as a reference because you said
the chief key thing, right, Yeah, this was in that era,
in that mode as well, or this was like at
what point did you realize, like, Okay, damn, I'm actually
getting better at this. People are responding to it in
a way where now I feel like I can take
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this serious.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I feel like it was very early on I stripped
all the music down and.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It was Vince Staples.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Vince Staples told me, he said, you ain't gotta he said, like,
you ain't got to do like what Jo Pops and
them did, like the like the g funk type sound man,
you know, like you could figure out something for yourself.
And then like that's when I started doing like the
singing stuff, like melodic, just trying to be more melodic
and like find a different pocket. And my thing back
then was like I wanted to fuse like alternative and
(09:29):
R and B together, just like this was twenty eighteen.
I didn't feel like it was too many people doing
that during that time, and the sound was very alternative,
and like when I put that out, the response was
way much bigger, and like people didn't understand, like where
I'm coming from from the East Side, Why are you
making alternative music? We know your family, we know your ties.
(09:50):
Where was that coming from? Like what was the influence
that brought that there? And it was like I feel
like I was listening to so much music during that time,
and like I was like, how can I fuse everything
that I love together but make it me and be
able to stand out that way.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
And I think that that that worked out in your
favorite because I feel like that's where you caught a
lot of attention. That's where a lot of folks are like, wait,
who is this kid? Like, yeah, who is he? For one,
and then when they realized that, oh damn, you know,
they put put the connection to Pops and it's just
it brings more questions about right, but one thing that's
not questioned was like, Yo, the talent is there, and
(10:26):
all right, what's he gonna do with this? So I
feel like a lot of people people were just watching
at that point in time and kind of like that's
where the initial spark for like, Yo, who is this kid?
What is he about? You know what I mean? That's
what all the questions kind of came in. And the
reason why I asked you about this is because, like
I said, either people embrace you know, the lineage and
the legacy, or they just want to completely go a
(10:46):
different route to show like no, I got my own lane.
So for you, I feel like it's a combination of both.
To think, the first go roude is like okay, yeah,
I going to the line of what possum was doing,
but now let me do my own shit. And it
was just as for you to be like okay, damn,
like people are paying attention to the sound.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, And what I would say also is like I
didn't kind of straight away because when I go back
and listen to like my pops and uncle music now,
it was very musical, it's still the same, like the
feeling of it is very it's very warm.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
They was very laid back.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Of course they're rapping, but it's more so like it's
space and like the music aspect of it live base
in music. And it's like I was doing it, but
they was already doing it. So it's like unconsciously kind
of like embracing what they did, but like how can
I be my own mark as well?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Just so I just started like incorporating.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Rap and singing in the in the music, whereas they
will like get it like a feature to sing the hook,
you know, like and I was like it worked for
me because I was I wasn't afraid of like not
being a Chris Brown, you know, like I was okay
with like just having a nice tone and nice note
(12:08):
to be able to hold and like real people in
and be like I can do this. I can wrap,
but also I can be on a more softer side melodically,
which works in favor. Now, you know, like as everybody's
like go to you know now you.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Mentioned you told moms, Why did you go go to
moms first versus versus pops anybody else to let them know? Like, man,
I want to I want to do this musically. Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I think I wanted everybody else to find out about
it rather than like me go to them like try
to get guidance. I was like I needed to fail,
you know, I think I don't think people be wanting
to fail, Like I look at it as like trial
and error in life. I wanted to try it and
see like where my flaws are at, what I can
improve on it and go from there. And then like
(12:56):
by time like they heard my stuff, they was like oh,
like it was already going around like to even to
snooping them like before like I even said anything, like
it was like, you know, what's your son making music?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You know that? Yeah? Like no one knew.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It's just like I wanted to put myself out there
like it's about to be hey, Dion, and then like
if they go back, they ain't gonna be like, oh
your pole. Now, it wasn't gonna be one of those.
But it's okay if like people have those those opportunities
I enjoy like where my family and like the ties.
I embrace it, you know, like shoot, not that many
(13:36):
followers can you know, are around where it's like, yeah,
my father did music and the ain't got a classic project,
you know, like and I mean and again like that.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's again everybody has their own journey and their own story,
and I love how you put it, like y'a. I
want them to find out on their own and eventually
they did. That's how it went down. Now, you got
a couple of projects under your belt, and I want
you to kind of like tell people like the journey
of how these and what these projects mean to you
(14:10):
and how it leads into the new music that you
got going on right now. Okay, we got Sucker for
Love in twenty nineteen, Emotional rec in twenty twenty, and
then the EP that you dropped we Were Meant to
Be in twenty twenty two. How do you feel like
you've grown throughout each drop? Because you talk about you
kind of found yourself found that sound twenty eighteen ish
right twenty nineteen you dropped the project. Twenty twenty was
(14:32):
a crazy time. I felt like the title really kind
of like sums that all up right, And then the
twenty twenty two, which I love the direction from going
through an emotional rec and then we seeeah visually, we
see okay, we got a little some some okay, and
then you know, you and Wifey so talk about the
growth and that the path that you took between each project.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah, I feel like in twenty nineteen I was man,
I was full of life, very experimental. I feel like
I was merging all the worlds that I loved together
as far as Sucker for Love. So you got Trap
Records where like I was on like I did dreams,
and then I was on the alternative side for like
(15:13):
the first half where it was like I want to
give like different perspectives of like my reality. And then
like I ended that project with Brick was like a
city homage at everybody loved and it was like east
Side Loan BEA's okay, now he's here, Now he's here,
you know. And then going to twenty twenty Emotional Wreck,
(15:37):
I wanted to like embrace fully R and B I
wanted to like have every song feel like a vibe.
I wanted to hit hard R and B. I didn't
want to like stray away from it. I want to
like be like, Okay, if I'm not going to be
a crazy singer, at least let me write crazy records
(15:58):
that will still penetrate. And it was great for me,
you know, like I feel like that project it changed
my life in ways, like it opened so many doors
and like, honestly, for the first time my manager now
to me back then during that time, yeah, you know,
it's like I feel like it was awakening for everyone.
(16:21):
They was like, oh, okay, we really understanding now, Like
he's going to go fully R and B. He's going
to be authentic, He's going to be himself, He's not
gonna need any features. During that time, I had no features.
I was only working with friends and every song was me, me, me, me,
you know, like no backgrounds for anybody else. Like I
(16:44):
feel like nowadays, I'm trying to I've been like slowly
embracing like collaboration, but during end, I was like I
need to kind of prove myself, you know, before I
kind of branch out. I want to be like I'm
also adding value, you know, right right.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I was going to ask you that too, like it
was are you is it more of making a point
to yourself and you kind of just explained like really worse,
really really for me. And then at the same time
it is for other people to showcase, like, Yo, this
is what I'm capable of doing. This is the value
that I bring to the table. So yo, if you
want to come to the table, or this is what
I can bring to take here it is you know
what I mean, that's a dope. That's a dope thing
(17:22):
to kind of not only do because you're jumping off
the ledge and kind of figuring it out, but then
when it works for you. I'm sure talk about that
feeling of getting the response from people and like oh man, yo,
I wasn't expecting this, or Yo, this is fire. You know.
I'm sure the responses that you would be getting from
from different people around that time.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Man, it was so many people, it was. It was
a I would say, it's a it's a blessing because
I feel like anything I do, like, of course it's
for me, and if others like it, that's a plus.
Because music is subjective, like you don't have to like somebody,
you know, I don't worse people to like it. During
(18:01):
that time, I was just putting it out and like
seeing where it goes, not necessarily trying to like jam
it down people throats, like I was only doing nine
songs each year, Like I wasn't flooding no markets.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
And what's wild is that the time to win social
media is, like you, low key, in order to penetrate,
you have to flood. I mean, that's that's a strategy
that most people kind of kind of go at talk
about being an independent artist in these times and kind
of navigating through that. I mean, it's the art, but
(18:36):
also there's strategy behind it. How do you kind of
navigate between those two worlds of keeping the art where
it's at, but at the same time, like understanding that
this is a business and you kind of have to
participate in this world. I feel like.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I don't never have to think about that too much,
to be honest. I focus on the music, you know,
And I truly believe that there's artists that when they
put it out and they have that feeling, it will
reach who was supposed to reach at the right time.
And that's how I approach it. That's why I never
(19:15):
have too much. I don't be sitting on vaults. Like
I believe in being authentic, organic, and like when the
time is right, when I'm ready, you know, like I
don't like to force, you know, moments. I'm not forcing
any moment. So like even now with the record that
I'm about to put out is like I made the
(19:35):
record and I knew before I even recorded it.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I knew it. I told my homie, I said, Jay,
this is going to be it.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I felt it, Like it's a feeling, like I'm always
chasing a feeling, so like records will move me in
a way, and I know, like if it moved me
that way, I can only imagine what they'll do to others,
right right.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Right, damn. I love the fact that it resonates and
it connects with you in that sense because there's a
level of like not only honesty, but you know, it
feels good when somebody enjoys what they do to this
point and can can just put it out there to
the world for other people to enjoy. Again, just for
(20:17):
the sake of the art, not for the clicks, not
for the views, not to impress this person or this
label or whatever the case may be. And I feel
like that's gonna always gonna be the thing that I
feel like you should always use as the north star
no matter where you go in your career. Like I
feel like that's gonna always keep you centered to the
point of like, yo, okay, this is who hey Dionne
is you know what I mean? Talk about where that
(20:40):
where that comes from? Is that something that's always been
rooted in you? Is that something that comes from from family?
Is it come from experiences in life?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How did you get to that point? Because a lot
of the reason why I asked this because I always
I try to give those that are listening to those
that are watching. You know, not everybody has that mentality,
and if they do have it, sometimes they straight from it.
So where how do you connect to that? Is that
something that's always been drawn from you?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Or I think it was just always me?
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, Like I always feel like I'm I'm very transparent
and I'm fearless. Yeah, I would say I'm fearless. I
say I'm willing to take risks on myself. You know,
I'm willing to bet on myself. I trust in my
abilities and like my personality is very people will say
(21:33):
it's it feels like I draw people in like I
have like an energy that is unmatched, you know. Every time,
like people meet me for the first time, they tell
me their whole life story. Wow, Like I kid you,
not even my even my wife did it.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Like everybody I meet, they tell me everything about themselves
before I even say a word.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
And this about saying are you You're not You're not
prying information, You're not asking anything.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I think I'm just like I'm always all ears and
always trying to be a sponge and true. I think
like honesty and like the embodiment of like self respect,
you know, and love. It's just love, Like I got
love for everybody. I don't never have any like stressors,
(22:21):
you know, like that weigh me down to where it's
like it affects, you know, my relationships with others. You know,
Like I'm always like a social like everybody say I'm
a social butterfly. But at the same time, I feel
like I'm willing to talk, you know, I'm willing to.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Like hear people out here to their stories. I measured
in history.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
I want to know like past, you know, like that's
what I'm about you know, like everybody has a story,
you know, when it's all said and done, and I'm
going like, I hope someone like knows my story, you know,
and like want to research about me a little bit,
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Talk about that. But as far as the history, I
didn't know that about you. So with history, if you
weren't doing music, what would you be doing.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I feel like God knew I was gonna do music,
So I feel like it was like no way around it.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It was no way around it.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I was doing of course, like I was major in history,
but it's like the music was pulling me, like come
back here. You got to tell something you're not you know,
like you have something to say, you know, And I
feel like I needed to be here, you know. I
feel like I am what we need right now now
(23:37):
a true representation of young adults, like actually mature young adults,
you know, like even though I'm older now. But it's
like during the time when I started, I was like
very forward thinking as far as like, oh yeah, I'm
gonna have me a lady, Oh yeah, I'm gonna be married,
(23:57):
like and I was gonna be vocal about that, you know.
I want to be like there's statistics that show there's.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Happyness in the black community.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Facts.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
You know, it's love out there, that people actually go
home to two parent households. Yeah, you know, I want
to be like yeah, like where I stay, Like, you know,
I'm surrounded by everything, but I have my father and
my mom, right, you know, I got love around me.
You know, Like, who's going to be that next voice
(24:31):
that's gonna broadcast that and make it okay?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, because you usually hear the stories of like, you know,
artists who don't who don't showcase their relationships. You know
what I mean that they do R and B you
know what I mean. They sing about love, but are
they really in love? You know what I mean? Do
they really have have those things? They're always chasing for
it all, but they never, like you said, necessarily really embodied. Man.
(24:57):
Talk about the importance of doing that out to your
queen too, because I remember seeing it. I'm like, oh
he found somebody. Oh oh yeah, he in love love
And I love seeing you display that and put that
in the forefront for the audience to actually see. Man.
You said you guys first met she told you were
a life story.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah. We talked for eleven hours.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
What straight?
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Eleven hours? What was y'all doing?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Was that her place? We talked eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
No nap, no nothing in between, and then I was like, oh,
you need to eat something, and then I got her food.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Wait a minute, wait, eleven hours straight, bro.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I left from school. Cal say long.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Beach shouts calsey, long beach. Yeah, wait, eleven hours is
a long time time.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Don't exist when you around people that pash but got
I said, r bea shit right there, come on, heit
darn you know damn.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
So it's just eleven hours of you listening or eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Of listening, respawning, questioning. Okay, yeah, tell me everything about herself?
That's far and I say everything, and that's that.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
What are we doing? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
What are we doing? That's that's what we're doing now though,
you see what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I can handle that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Yeah, you know. I love the fact that one thing
we have in common is I think you because you
commented on one of my posts other day, our me
and my wife just celebrated our thirteenth year wedding anniversary.
Your wife the same thing, Yeah, same date, June ninth,
(26:39):
June nine, Yeah, right, I don't do all this eleven
hours and get the June ninth. June ninth man shout
out to wife, amazing. What is what is marriage taught
taught you about yourself?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I feel like it was already married, so I feel
like each day is a new data, far more more
in love and learn something new about it each other,
you know, in ourselves too.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
The marriage was like the the ceiling, but we yeah,
we beyond that.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You know, you do you think because you hear this
conversation of do you think marriage the the act of marriage,
like the ceremony? Do you think that's that's important? Or
is it more important to find your partner be in love?
Like do you have do you actually have to get married?
Do you think so?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I don't feel like you have to, but I feel
like if y'all both want it, then do it. But
it's not for everybody. Most people don't like titles, That's
that's the thing, you know. And I wanted the title
and she wanted the titles. So it's like made sense,
you know, Like I feel like you.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Have to do what works for you guys.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You know, like people out there, if you want to
find your partner and you like, think about marriage, and
they on the fence or like they don't like the title,
maybe you just got to leave it as that, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
You don't be hard pressed for either way.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, because at the end of the day, like it's
the relationship between YouTube, you know, like marriage is like certificate,
that's that's government documents, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
But that's why I was getting at that, because I've
seen people ruin great things because of the title and
wanting the title. One person didn't necessarily care for it.
The other person was like, man, I have to get
this based off of what I've seen growing up and
what society says. And it's like but at the end
of the day, what do YouTube like? What's important for
(28:52):
you too? You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I think the question should be asked early too. M hmm,
Like what's the long term? You know, are you in
it for the long term? Is it something that you
want for the future. Is it something that you ever.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Thought of, specifically marriage?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, specifically, like like is it something that you want
to do, not necessarily like like you know, it's people
that's out there. It's like, oh yeah, I think I'm
gonna get married one day. But there's people that know
I don't want you feel me and then they like
or they'll be like, you know, like when I find
the one right. Maybe those are the situations where like
(29:31):
people are like on the fence er It's like they
don't feel like they really have to one, but they are,
you know, content with where they at.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And some people are just searching for I don't know.
I think some people use that as an excuse. So
they're searching for an undescribable feeling or a scenario that
probably will never exist, you know what I'm saying. And
I'm not saying settled. But it's like, like you said,
those questions have to be asked earlier. You got to
know within yourself what you want at the end of
(30:00):
the day, you know what I'm saying. The communication is
super important. Now another thing, man, fatherhood. I always like
like connecting with artists about that. Man, and I've seen
your journey as a father as well. Man, talk about
your little one, and you know what being a father
has taught Dion throughout the years. You know, it's opposed
to like the artist, you know, husband, now father, Like
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what has that shown you about yourself? What characteristics have
you learned about yourself that you feel like fatherhood has
brought out of you.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I thought I had way more patience.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You thought you did.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, psych, Yeah, that's that's that's the big one. Like
I think, like I realized I don't really like tolerate
a lot of a lot of things, like as far
as like misbehavior that like you got to have a
little bit more patience for with the kids. So every
day is a learning for me, like a new day.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Each day.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's like, Okay, he's going to do something, but like
you know, I know he's gonna do this some time. I'd
be like, man, I'd be like, don't do it right,
I'm telling you, you know it's the second time. Man,
you know, Like that's that's the big thing as far
as father is.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
But you know what's funny is that as I'm hearing
you talk and just listen about listening to some of
the things and some of the ways you described you.
So we had an off air conversation about you you
kid as well. A lot of the traits that he
has they come from you. Some of the things that
I mean in terms of like the fearlessness and the confidence,
Like I feel like that is is a reflection of yourself.
(31:31):
I mean, so it's a it's a thing that's it's
amazing to watch. Like I always tell like, kids that
will hold up that mirror in front of you and
it's either things that you like or don't like about
yourself and you have to deal with them in that moment,
you know what I mean. Definitely, what dad advice could
you give to all the other dads out there? So
some father advice based off of your experience as a
father to other fathers out there.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I will say, let your kid do what they desire
as long as it doesn't harm them. That's the best advice,
you know. Let them find their journey. I love that,
you know, and I always be willing to like learn
from them because you know, that's what we're in it
(32:15):
for at the end of the day, we're learning from them.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I love this, man, I love it. You know. I
got to ask you about the project some music man
type shit is depending on when you watch this and
when you're listening to this, it's either gonna be dropping
soon or it's gonna be out you dropping it on
the June twentieth, June twenty, okay, So it's leading up
to a project. If so, do you have any details
(32:39):
for us or are we keeping things hushed until it
actually is for the people to receive right now?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Just we're working, I would say, working. We have things ready,
but working continuously in the gym, perfecting the craft, trying
to make sure the message is clear, you know, Like
that's my big thing as far as like with anything
I do, the intention has to be fully put in it.
(33:07):
The message has to be well delivered. I wanted to
be executed the way I hear it in my head,
you know, and see it visually, you know, so by
the time it hits you, guys, it's like I already
knew what it was going to do for me.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Do you have a problem with handing over your art
to people? And what I mean by that? You know,
you mentioned being being self sufficient, doing things on your own,
and I think that's that's something to pride yourself in.
You're not waiting on anybody else. Nobody's gonna hold your hand.
But at some point too, you also have to you know,
(33:44):
it's business. People have to get involved, whether it be visuals,
whether you know, deliverables, whatever the case may be. How
do you how do you navigate with then letting the
responsibility and go to let other people handle your art.
Are you good with that? Are you getting better with that?
What's what's your take on it?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I feel like it's continuously learning how to you know,
be a team player, you know, Like I feel like
in the beginning, I was very like trying to figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Of course, like I had help.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's always helped, I will say that, like it's always producers,
there's always director friends, like it's always people around around me.
But as far as like management type help, I feel
like this is like it has been very new for me.
Even in the beginning, it was like always new, like
how to voice my opinion and hope that it doesn't
(34:43):
affect relationships, you know, because in the day, like it's
still me that's being branded out there, you know. And
I think collaboration is great for me now that I'm learning.
It's like collaboration is perfec to be like talk.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Some things out. You know.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Sometimes I have the idea and I'll just bring it
to the table and like this is what I think,
you know, and it works sometimes, you know, sometimes I
got to go back to the drawing board. But it's
been an actual learning curve for me, like as far
as like navigating, like being able to sometimes like be
hands off on stuff.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
But for the most part.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I feel like creatively, I'm always like thinking about everything
about it, like the visual, what I wanted to look like,
the angle I wanted to be shot, you know, like
how I'm addressed, you know. And then the music is
like I know, like what I hear, like what mood
I want to be in? You know what the world
(35:44):
is gonna like see me as you know? And I
feel like summer is me? So do you have a
title for the album you'll see?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Do you have a title? You don't have to tell
me the title. Do you have a title? Yeah, it's ready,
you know. You know the direction in terms like do
we if we? If we can say the album is
percentage wise? How done is the project?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It's always worked to do eighty, it's always worked to
do ninety, it's always worked.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
To do Okay, is it a higher? Just give me
a higher or lower? Higher than fifty percent?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Depends on today this name right here.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
We ain't gonna get no answers from hey Dion right now.
It depends on the day. Okay, what today? What about today?
Where we at percentage wise?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Today, work needs to be done. Come on, now, come
on now, I feel like you know, I know when
it's ready.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Okay, okay, that's a better question. How do you know
when it's ready?
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I'm no longer trying to perfect the world?
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Got it?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I'm no longer like, oh I need to shoot this,
or I need one more song, or oh I need
to change this lyric or I need to sing this
better like once when that's all out the picture?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Then have you ever been in that space before? Or
is it all because you said it's always worked to
be done? So do you ever get to the point
where things are complete or is it just at some
point you just got to cut it off? No, you
feel get to the point. Okay, that's that's fair. That's
that's what I want to know. This is it? Because
I'm like, hey, bro, like if that's the case, we
might be waiting for a minute, but you always be
(37:32):
like yeah, okay, you know, Okay, I'm sorry, I got
to every Now Now I got another question. So when
do you know what's going to be done? What's the
missing component at this point?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
At this point, I feel like I just need more,
more records, more, just more records that uh that still
has the same feeling that I started off with. I
feel like it's balanced. I feel like projects should have
(38:04):
roller coaster feels, you know, like be able to pinpoint
certain emotions out of people, and I feel like it's
some emotions that I need to tap into be able to.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Finish it, mean to cut you off. Is it anything
you feel like you haven't tapped into either from life
experiences stories like what is there for people to know
about you that you haven't kind of given them as
of right now without giving them the actual thing, Like
what do you think emotions you feel like you haven't
(38:35):
tapped into.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I feel like I gave a lot of heartbreak songs
I've had some I love this feeling that we have
connection type songs. I feel like I need that real
undeniable like this is a love record but feels like
(39:00):
a barbecue, you know, like the family barbecue, Like you're
gonna put that on, like I want. I feel like
I'm chasing that right now. Okay, I'm chasing that loving happiness,
you know, Like I'm I want to do like my
version of you know, Donielle Jones say what you know?
(39:21):
You know, like I feel like I want that, you
know that type Phil d you know.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
The Frankie Beverly and May, Yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I want that timeless you know that timeless record like yeah,
any generation. I feel like as an artist, that's what
I really want. I crave for that, you know. I
crave for that moment to be like, yeah, I got one,
I got one that can standard TESTA times, I feel
like I've been close, but I feel like I haven't
(39:56):
like quite got it yet, you know, like I'm I'm be.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
There again for the people that are listening for the
first time. Which one do you feel like in your
catalog is the closest to that?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
M As far as Johnny Rice to.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
You, to you in your catalog, which one do you
feel like that that feeling that you're chasing? You said,
I got close? Which which ones are we talking to?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
You?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Just give you can give me one like, which one
do you feel like is the closest to that feeling
that you're going for?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
So I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
But as far as like my old works, I wanted
to fully embody like an era in music which was
brick and I was like, how can I pay homage
to my family lineage and where I'm from, and I
was able to do that and it worked very well.
(40:49):
So I felt like I knew I can make that
type of record where even I remember DJ Hagg said
I reminded him of Anthony Hamilton and.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Nate Dark in one song, and I was like, Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
At the time, I was like, I'm not hearing it,
But as I grow, I'm like, I understand.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
It's just like the delivery was was there.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
I feel like I was very intentional with what type
of record I was making, you know. I feel like
that's what it is in music. It's like you have
to go in knowing exactly what you want to do.
Like of course you could play around and like hope,
pray that it works. But at the same time, like
anytime I'm going in, I know like I need to
tell this story. I need this type of feeling and
(41:39):
until I get it, then that's when.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
For Yeah, the year can end without hey, Dion doing
what What's what's on your your your bucket list? What
things are you manifesting? It could be career wise, family wise,
life wise, what's one thing? But the year can end
without you doing what?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Getting everything? I deserve.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Anything that God has in store for me, I will
have it. So the year won't end without that happening.
There go, you know, like anything I want, if I
want to, you know, be number one on the charts,
I'm gonna have to God, you know I'm gonna work.
I'm gonna work. But you know everything is written. I'm
(42:26):
just I'm just stepping into the light and enjoying the ride.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
One thing I've been trying to say every day at
least reminded myself and I got this dude by the
name of Mara Golden. It's like I'm becoming exactly who
and what God designed me to be, you know what
I mean. And that's what I hear. You know you're
not chasing it, You're just embodying it, you know what
I mean. And like you said, you know you're gonna
appreciate it when it happens, you know what I mean.
(42:53):
We don't have a title, we don't have a date.
We'll keep you posted for show. All right, It's hey, Dion,
I appreciate you, brother. I'm glad we got a chance
to finally do this again. I've been I've been watching
the journey for a couple of years now, well, damn
about five six years now. So it's a pleasure to
kind of sit down with you and chop it up
and see the growth, see the evolution. I'm just looking
(43:13):
forward to see continue to see the journey, bro. Anything
you want to tell the people before we get a out.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
Of here, Hey Dion, Yeah, June twentieth type shit, Live life, love,
take it day by day, second by second, Appreciate everything
you have around you.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
You don't need to.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Change for nobody, because like, who you are is who
you are, and you know, like it's either you're gonna
have love or you're gonna have hate. And if you
move with love, no one can get in your way.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Boom, I appreciate you, man, homegrown chuck dizzle. Hey Dion,
we'll catch y'all next time. See it
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