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July 11, 2025 48 mins
Chuck Dizzle sits down Live & Direct with LA Wray—a multifaceted artist representing South Central LA with heart, hustle, and a whole lot of authenticity.

In this episode, LA Wray gets real about almost walking away from music, relocating to Arizona for work, and ultimately returning to LA to go all-in on her purpose. She breaks down how poetry, clown dancing, and life in the mental health field all shaped her sound and story.

We talk about the sold-out LA Wray Experience show, the intention behind her performances, and why she made it a point to rep her city’s culture—from lowriders to Tommy the Clown. She opens up on how working in foster care fuels her passion for underserved communities, and the ongoing journey of balancing Morgan (her real self) with LA Wray (the artist).

We also dive into her latest project Four Different Wrays, what’s next musically, and how staying rooted in faith, family, and community keeps her grounded in a game that often tests you. Whether you’ve been tapped in or just now getting familiar—this Home Grown convo is full of inspiration, healing, and hard truths for artists trying to find their voice and own their lane.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, were back at it, Chuck Dizzle live and
direct man. You know, were keeping it homegrown.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
You know, we're introducing you new artists or getting you
familiar with artists. You should be knowing about people, creators,
people that I just love seeing the journeys, just people
that I have conversations with on and off the mic,
and ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I got my home grew up in here.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Man, she just had the La Red Experience. We were
supposed to be doing this prior to it. But I
think it's all God's time and it's all divine time
because I got a chance to get something crazy, an
experience of a lifetime over at the La Re Experience,
Ladies and gentlemen, everybody around world. I'm gonna stoplapping the table.
I'm just excited because my homegirl is here. Man, La Ray,
appreciate you being here.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Man, thank you for having me. We long overdue. But you,
like you said, God's timing.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I feel like you're one of those individuals. Man.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Your your reputation, your personality on and off the mic
just speaks for itself.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
But a lot of folks, and I told you this,
a lot of people are rooting for you, Ray, Yes,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
And seeing you at the La Red Experience, I want
to start there because I was just impressed. I've told
you this, but I want the world to know because
not only did you put on a show for yourself
and we'll get into why, but successful.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
You know, the.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
People showed up and people were there. The common theme
was just everybody wants to see you win, you know
what I mean. I loved how Moms was there, the
whole best friends, multiple best friends.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
I got to find out how many best friends.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You got a lot of them. But everybody wants to
see you in and I just love your story and journey. Man,
I just want to people know a little bit more
about La Race. So let's start with the La Re Experience. Man,
how are you feeling now We're a couple of weeks away,
maybe a month away from it?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:52):
You were promoted heavy as you should. It sold out
at the sol Venue and Carson, my hometown. How are
you feeling now that you you've received the flowers in
real time, seen the success of the show, and you
put on one hell of a show as well.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
So how are you feeling?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm feeling good. I feel like it was overwhelming during
the process, but actually being there that day and in
a moment, I'm like, I'm really doing this, you know,
and just seeing everybody show up for me was just
an eye opener. Like I'm always in my head about
people supporting me, Like, of course I see it, I
see people reposting showing me love, but it's like I

(02:30):
just still be in my head.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
In your head and in what way?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Like when you say in your head like not enough numbers,
not enough metrics, not the voices aren't loud enough, the
platforms you feel like you should be on. Like when
you say you're in your head about it, what do
you mean?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
I don't know, Chuck, That a good question.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
No, I'm just saying, like, what are you like for real?
Like what are you thinking about? Like even leading up
to this, it couldn't just be this situation. But like
when you say.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, you know the people are supporting and feeling
feeling the love, Like do you feel like it's just
just just in metrics and numbers wise? Like is it
damn I want and I know I got thousand views,
but I want five thousand.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Is it something as simple as that because I know.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
I'll get there. Yeah, Like you know, as far as
when I start doing music to now I see the
progress for sure, it's just I just battle with my
own thoughts for real. As far as like people showing
up for me, So actually seeing it that day, I
was just like, wow, like I'm really doing this.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'm gonna tell you.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
I'm gonna tell you why. I think that is right.
I think it resonates with a lot of people. When
when you say you're in your own head, we.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
All go through the same thing.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
And I think that that's why your story resonates for
me a lot, because people see, oh, Chuck is on
real ninety two to three, Chuck has had Homegruner and
then Saluta. First of all, I gotta say salute to
Chrissy b. She's throwing the amazing the music and media.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
They honored me.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
For a leadership recognition and work ward, which I was
so humbled by that. Right, but even with all that,
and I receive the flowers in real time, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
But even in that still be in my own head too.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I'm like, oh, man, I could be doing this and
I you know, we just get fixated on the other things.
So that's why your story resonates with me because the
city loves you. Right, Yes, the talent is undeniable, sir,
but for whatever reason we question it.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't know why that is.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
It's so crazy. Even at Chrissy b event, you have
said like, it's kind of uncomfortable wh people give you
a flowers because you're so used to giving everybody else.
That stuck to me really when you said that, because yeah,
same thing, I swear. I don't know, Like I'm very
humble and modest, I guess like you know, so when
you have said that, I was like, dang, that's really what

(04:46):
it is. Like, it's it's kind of a battle to
be in a moment like that, you know, but you
you deserve it. Check.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Thank you so much. Yeah, and let's go.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Let's take them back just little bit hot for the
people that don't know, you know, because I know there's
a lot of people that are looking at you.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
And hearing you and it's like, okay, who is she?
Like who is La ray Man? Talk about your experience
in journey and music.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I know you start off dancing years ago, you clown dancing,
grumffing and all that. Right, give the people, the journey
of coming up in La and you know, getting a
start doing that and then transitioning into the music and poetry.
And there's a lot of different layers to La, right,
So talk about that journey.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yes, it is so okay. La Ray born and raised
in Los Angeles, California, South Central the district to be exact.
To be exact, Yes, my big mama stayed in the sixties,
and then me and my mom moved to the Mirk
Park when I was eight. When I was eight, when
I was saying, Yeildt, She's always gonna be here when

(05:48):
I was eight, So I'm a district baby to the
ten to the tea. And so during middle school I
had like a little red box I kept underneath my bed.
I used to just write poetry. And I think that's
honestly where it all started from. Yes, do you remember
your first poem?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I do nothing? You don't, I don't.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think I was just trying to just rhyme words.
And then just during that time, of course, you know,
getting into like middle school and stuff, gaining feelings and
just like back then, people really didn't like chocolate girls
like you know, we was always clowned. So that was
like my outlet. Yeah, you know, and so.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
She was battle rapping people, just getting your feelings off. Okay,
I thought she was ritting like dis rap.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, no, I probably would. I don't know. I wish
I could. I don't even know what happened to that
red Box, but I feel like it started off there
as far as me doing poetry. Fast forward high school.
I played around with it in high school, and then
twenty eighteen, one of my close homeboys he was watching
Kamaya music video and you know, usually in her music videos,

(06:54):
her and all her friends, and that's all my music videos.
So he was like, you could do this, like you
know how to rap. So this was the year YG
had dropped Big Bank and I had it a freestyle
and then everybody was fucking with it. I was like, okay,
I could do this.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So that was your first like like official time recording
because everything at that point had just been written down
and I'm sure like maybe freestyle and just rapping, but
not necessarily recording at that time.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yep. Wow, yeah, so you did it.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
You got a response from now this is something that
you did. You put it up like on what SoundCloud.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
At the time.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
SoundCloud it's still on there. Actually, really, I like going
back to my soundclouds. I could listen. I sound so
different from when I first dropped.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
But that's that's the beauty of it, right, Like to
hear the journey and probably cringe when you listen to
It's like, but I encourage artists too, man, because there's
there's people that take down their music and I get it,
you know, you want to present it in a certain way.
But I love like watching and hearing that because you
can hear the growth and hear the journey. And like

(07:58):
I remember, I remember being in.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
The studio with with Kendrick when he was dropping.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
He dropped a mixtape was I want to say it
was four he was, but he sounded just like Wayne right,
and having a sound between Jay and Wayne and listening
to Kendrick now is like night and day, you know,
but it's all a.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Part of his journey.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
So he found his voice.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
He found his voice.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
But you you have to kind of put yourself out
there and you know, here here for yourself, but at
the same time, discover your.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Own Somebody had told me stay in the studio, so
I feel like that helped as well. And just getting
comfortable with like my cadence, my sound, my delivery, and
still having fun with it of course too.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
So but so were you the poetry was at an
early age? When did the dancing come involved.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Well, I've been dancing since elementary.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Okay, so the dancing was before the poetry around the
same time.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Yeah, So I've been dancing since elementary. I was a
part like a dance team. He used to have dance
on competition. Shout out to Lea Rights. We went to
the same school. Yes, we was on the same dance team.
Middle school. I think I didn't really do too much.
I always already knew how to dance, so it was just,
you know, something to play around with. High school, I
was a cheerleader, so halftime was my thing. So yeah,

(09:18):
I always I feel like growing up one of six
and park was my thing. So like just seeing the
music videos, I always want to just always add choreography
into my music video some way.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Make sure that that's incorporate.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
That's always incorporating because it's easy to rent out an
Airbnb and a videographer, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
You know, so somebody was I was.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I was having a conversation with somebody I forgot who
was anyway, but we were talking about I think it
was it was post pop up pop up show, pop
out pop out shouts of Kendrick pop out show, and
they didn't know who Tommy the Clown was, right, But
I realized that's a that's an l A thing. Yeah,
you know for people this person was there, I think Virginia.

(10:03):
So they were okay, it's the significance. So if you
somebody from LA, how would you break down Tommy the
Clown's impact on Los Angeles culture coming up as somebody
growing up.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Jesus, that's like battle Zone days at the form? Yeah,
when the form was blue? What was it it was?
It was it was blue.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
It was blue. It was blue.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
So like them type of days. And I just remember,
like my grandmother rest in Peace. She used to take
me to all birthday parties and Tommy Clown used to
just yes, And so I just feel like that's like
LA culture. Like you know how l A you think
about palm trees, gold chains, like bamboos, rolexes, you gotta

(10:45):
put Tommy Clown in there. Like everybody wanted Tommy Clown
for their birthday. Everybody wanted to dance for Tommy to
clown like, I love that he's peaky about his dancers,
Like yeah, but exactly, exactly, So it's just a part
of the culture, the La culture, clown.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
And I'm saying that because that was, you know, a
part of the La Ray experience as well.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Man making sure that the dancers.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Was Yes, talk about why that was important to showcase
that you had the low riders in the front of me.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It was the car culture.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
You got the dancers, everything that's that that I feel
like La Ray and bodies. You made sure that that was,
you know, incorporated in the La Ray experience as well.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Exactly. I you literally said it. I just wanted it
all to represent me. It's so crazy. The clown dancers.
I had decided on that two weeks before. Really yeah,
because I had an airbrush guy, you know that's La
I have my homegirl selling her bamboos. I had the
old school backdrop, the low writer shout out to my

(11:47):
god Pops and my my pop Snoop. It was both
of their car clubs that popped out. And yeah, I
had just tapped in with Boomer to clown like, hey, like,
can you come to my show? Like you knows it's
on a Thursday. It was like it's fine, like you know,
we'll come out. So everything just fall into place. But
I just feel like for my first show, it was

(12:09):
intimate first and foremost, but I just wanted it to
represent me, showing who La Ray is. Like I'm West Coast,
so I feel like I execute it.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
And you did something that was interesting and I felt
like it was intentional as well. Usually when you go
to people's shows and it gains no knock, but because
of various situations, whether the promoters or the venue, a
lot of times before the artist actually goes up, there's.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
A lot of openers, you know what I mean. With
the lay experience, we didn't have that. You know what
I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
You had one person that popped up before salute to
the shot.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
That persona shout out Tobria, oh my goodness is oh
my She's just a woman of God. And like just
with my journey, I'm on with christ I just already
knew who I wanted to open for me, and so
she does amazing spoken word poetry. So when me and
my best friend Morgan started playing the show, I was like,
I want Bria to open. This was actually actually after

(13:07):
my Why video shoot when we start saying my best
friend Morgan is the one that told me, like, you
need to do a show. Wow, because just seeing how
many people popped out for me from my video shoot,
she was like, imagine a show and I was just like, dang,
Like I don't want nobody. I don't want it to
be like a rand friends type of situation. I wanted
to be me, solely me. I wanted to be a

(13:27):
venue where everybody could pay attention to me. Like it's
so crazy. Because we went to another venue, we was
about to lock in and then one of my dancers
shout out to Alexis. I was just watching her story
and she bartends after Soul and I was like, what
the hell and she was like, yeah, just you and
working come down this weekend. Check it out. And that

(13:48):
was that.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
You know, it was funny.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
We've done a few events at the Soul and I
think this is prior to the pandemic.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I didn't even know they were open again. Yeah, so
like to see that. I was like when you said up, like, oh,
it's so pretty.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
That was a lot of people reaction to it. Know
where that sat man so.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Ben, I mean they've had a lot of my wife Tasha,
She's done a couple of brunches there.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, and then we had.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
An event for Homegrown there, I think one of our
Halloween parties or whatever years ago, and then you know,
the pandemic happened, So it was like a lot of
being you shut down or whatnot. So when I saw him,
like wait a minute, Okay, they're back open doing their thing,
and it worked out and again, just just an incredible experience.
I want to take it back to some of your
previous projects and the reason why I'm gonna say this

(14:33):
one because you just said that you didn't want the
l A Rated experience to be l A Ran Friends,
and that was the name of one of your projects,
brand Friends, So talk talk about that.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Was that your first project?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
No, my first project was just the beginning, but it
got took down. But we ain't gonna talk about that.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
We're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I didn't pay for my districal kid get okay.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So it's still it's still pending. It's still in there. Yeah,
it's still flowing, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
So.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah. The next one was Ray and France, and it's
so crazy with Ray and France. I do want to
do another one kind of like a like wag no ceilings,
like you know, just continue just dropping that, and that's
going to be ultimately the plan to under the l
a Ray experience. I know, for like my next one,
I want openers. I just wanted my first one to

(15:22):
be solely about me, and I didn't even want to
have a special guest. But it's like, I'm in Carson,
so you know, I had to have reasons, you feel me,
so it was only right. But yeah, I definitely want
to do another Ray and Friends tape only because it's
a lot of amazing artists out here, especially with me
living in Empire as well. They got their own community

(15:45):
and they are talent. Shout out to tea spokess like
what I think, it's Kayasia the Christian She's cold, like
it's it's a lot of I think right now.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
But the thing is, you can't think this is a
lot of them.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
You see what I'm saying, And that's great.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
It's an amazing thing.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I love the fact that I feel like this.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I'm not going to say this generation, but it is,
I guess in the context of what I'm saying, Yeah,
the support is there. I love to see support I
want another.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
I hate when people continue to complain about it, Like
I feel like when I first start doing music, nobody
was supporting me like that, and I had to get
humbled by that because you know, Gena's my best friend.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, A, B, C and D.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
So I was cocky like you know what it's gonna
happen overnight because I know A, B and C is
such and such. But God humble me fast. And I
honestly feel like it was necessary for preparation as far
as just would Heather B say the other day music
industry is very demonic, and so as far as like
preparation would get in my mental health together and just

(16:57):
getting closer to Christ, just preparing for what's to come now.
So I'm happy that I went through what I went.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Through because because you imagine like getting in and again
and it's no knock at all because you're still relatively.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Early in your journey.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
But can you just imagine, like, uh, you know, with
with the technology that we have now, right, it's easy
for songs to go viral, It's easy for moments to
go viral, you know what I mean. Just imagine one
of the songs that you had would whoever blow up
the attention be on.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
You and you're just not ready for that moment.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I feel like the steps now you're you're prepping your
yourself to be ready for that moment, you know what
I mean? You have moments in between that, Like I
said with the La Ra experience, man, just being one
of those things just showing up. Well, first you dropping
the the your last project thus for different rays, right,

(17:51):
I felt like that was the beginning.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Like it was like because a lot of people have
been waiting, like yo, right, what you're doing. What you're doing,
you know.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
And you dropping that, you know, showcasing the different personalities
of yourself as well, but just giving people music from you.
I think that was the first thing like okay, hey
I'm here. Now it's like, okay, I'm outside. You can
actually see me what had been going on prior to that,
you know what I mean? Because I know you've been
vocal about and you said it at the show to

(18:18):
moving to Arizona coming back, I mean, just life experiences man,
kind of tap into what was going on in between
you dropping music that kind of have you just kind
of all over the place and kind of like what
what brought you back.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, honestly, life be life in first and foremost. I
feel like that's for anybody, And with me, I'm big
on isolating. I take a step back making sure myself
is together because you know, I work in the mental
health build so it's like I got to make sure
I'm okay before helping the next person, right, And for.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
The folks that don't know, what are you? What were
you doing next? In the space.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I'm a behavior health technician, so I work with those
that battles with they mental health. Gosh, I'm currently so
I am eight years in Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Man, do you think that being in a field like that,
you take on the stories and experiences that you see
from people. You're dealing with your own stuff too, but
like you literally take that stuff home as well. Then
how do you navigate in that space of making sure
that people are okay but also doing your best to
not bring that into your every day Exactly?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I had to learn early on with because at first
I was working with kids. I was definitely taken at
home until I started working with adults. And I remember
it was just one client of mine, she was Native American.
You know, they're very guarded in the visuals and I
was really trying to get her some help, and she
denied me, cussing me out, and I broke down crying,

(19:42):
and so I went straight to my supervisor and she
had a serious conversation with me, like, you know, we
can only meet these people fifty to fifty halfway, Like
we can't want it more than they, you know, want
it for theirself. And it was just a switch that
instantly changed because I'm a very emotional person, so you know,
that kind of broke me, but it was definitely an

(20:02):
eye opener, like, you know what, She's right, like I
could just only leave my mark when I can, when
I'm here at whatever job God wants me to be
at at that time, and just do whatever I can,
you know, And I just had to really learn, like
I said, like I can't want more for a person.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
It's funny that we we had a conversation or I
had a conversation with Airplane James and your name was
brought up because he said he's out. I didn't even know,
you know, he was in the foster care system, right,
and he talked about it. We had a candid conversation
about it, but he said you were one of the
people that kind of like helped him out throughout that process.

(20:39):
It's being an adult and processing everything that you know
that he had been through. And but he gave you
your props based off of that, and I just thought
that was that was that was another way.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
That was just another layer like daw that's that's dope.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Like I love the fact that you you you, you
did something for him that he's gonna he's gonna take
on with his life forever, now you know what I mean.
So yeah, man, just another another deposited in the La
Ray love. But you mentioned well we haven't talked about
it yet, but you had life be life And yes,

(21:14):
moved to Arizona.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Whose Arizona was out there for five years? I moved.
I really wanted to move to the South next Chuck, really, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
You wanted to leave La.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Well, I was already Arizona.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
See what's saying?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So you were you were in Arizona, you wanted to
move to the South. Yeah, so you don't want to
come back home or so.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I had a conversation a year before with Sallas to Salas,
shout out to Sallas, this was our first conversation ever
and I just remember him like telling me, why do
you live in Arizona? Like La is on a rise
for artists, Like you need to come back home, right,
And that's exactly what I did.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
So for context with what year was.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
This, this was ooh, it had to have been probably
like twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, because I
had came back twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Okay, but you were in I was in Arizona fourth
it was five years at that point.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Huh yep, yep, really yeah. I went out there in
twenty seventeen, came back twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Okay, time be flying.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Everybody didn't know I really lived out there.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
You was back and forth.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, you was back and forth enough to the point
where I would see you and I'm.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Exactly exactly, but it would mainly be like on weekends.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
If you're right, you're right about it.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, And so even that I had to really start
like thinking like dang, like it really be networking events
that go on during the week that I can't just
fly down, catch a bus down, drive down to go
to like I have work, you know, so I got
to wait to get off come down on Friday, go
back Sunday. So I'm going back to work on Monday.
Like that was just a lot. Yeah, and I'm a hustler.

(22:54):
I get it from my mama and my dad, so
it's just in me, you know. So but at some
point I was it's like okay, Morgan, like you need
to go back to the land, like you know, you
need to be there, show up, be in a studio,
sessions whatever, Like I'm all about rubbing shoulders, rubbing elbows.
You know, I have to be there to show my face.
So shout out to sallus.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah that was amazing. Yes, yes, I know what kind
of jumping over the place.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But I want to get into this because you know,
it's your catalog, it's your body of work. So we
talked about rand friends. Yes, we talked about four different rays,
the EP, which is your latest project that you drive
between that, the Family EP. Yeah, so so talk about
your your your journey and your growth between each project
which you felt like you learned between those. And I

(23:41):
want to talk about new music because I know a
lot of people, you know, I've been wondering, like, yo,
what's going on that's going Yeah, me specifically and I'll
tell you why what did you learn between each project?
You said, Rand friends, that was just just kind of
in a sentence.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
What was that one about sophomore year? Sophomore year? Yeah, okay,
the family EP.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
First of all, shout out to KG, shout out for
I am get right. We was always in the studio together,
so we was just like, let's do a take together.
And KG is the one that I have on WOMP.
So what was that time? Just me? I guess it
was testing my pen because I was working with males,

(24:26):
and I love working with males.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
It's showing up like wanting to prove that, you know,
I got it just as much as.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
I can borrow up too. So I think that's where
I was at with it with the family shout out
to my dogs, and then fast forward to just for
Different Rays. Just uh, a peak of what's to come
as far as the growth, you know, starting off with flaws,
just being very vulnerable in there, as far as just
realizing what it is I have to work on as

(24:55):
a woman and just how far I've come as an
artist as well for people to say like oh my god,
just her growth. And that's going back to La Ray experience.
Why I wanted to be very intimate for people to
feel that. What was my next song? Showtime? Showtime? You know,
let me a little two steps, love me to lowride

(25:16):
her vibes. G funk is my thing. Definitely. I feel
like with the project, I just wanted to be versatile
because I don't want to be in a box like
you know, crabs in a barrel. Can't do that. I'm
a legend in the making, So I got to get
up out of that. So Showtime I just had to
put the West Co vibe on there, and you know,
this show song and when you first heard her, this show.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Lost ship because prior to that, you know, you know,
I knew, I knew about a few of the songs,
but the wamp was the one that that really like
broke through.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
That's what it was. Okay, yeah, like I see where
she Yeah, she shewn her ship.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
So this show song was like that same topic, like,
oh okay, like she got something to prove that she
is showing up and showing that.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
It's not just a one time thing like that she
can get in pocket with these records.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
So exactly, I love everything about this your song, that's
my favorite. So honestly, and then why why shout out
to my big cousin Lyska on my dad's side. So
you know, I'm Panamanian. All of my family is from Panama.
So I remember one conversation we had and she was like,
why don't you start, you know, getting your Caribbean like back,

(26:31):
you know. I was like, I don't know Spinnish she said,
so she said like, literally, yeah, I don't know nothing, right,
I don't know. She was like, so like you're West Coast,
we get that, but like, you know, put your you know,
juice to it, like you know, put a spin to it,
and that's okay, like you know, and I was like,
all right, let me try it. So I told my

(26:52):
producer shout out to Gully that you know, let's do
an afrobeat and then yeah, why why why?

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Man? Yeah that's and I love that you showcase for
four different rays and you know obviously that the title
is self explanatory, so with the La Re experience, yes, sir,
you show people, Yo, I'm back outside, I'm here, and
I gotta make this very clear.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
And I feel like a lot of artists need to
see this and take.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
A page out of your book from that, like, it's
okay to throw your own show, put yourself on. If
nobody's going to give you an opportunity, your things aren't
moving the way you see fit, it's okay to to
invest in yourself and make that happen, right, And I
think that's why the respect I have for you just
jumped up even more. I'm like, oh man, she's creating

(27:42):
her own opportunity, something that we preach all the time,
like just do it. It's easier said than done, absolutely,
you know. And I want to get into the pros
and cons of doing that for yourself. But I was
just so glad that you did that. But even with that,
I was like, Okay, some music is about to be
happening soon. Yeah, now know what's happening, But what can
we expect from La Ray? Like when when is the

(28:05):
music dropping? Are you in the works with something like
talk talk about the experience now now that we're post
La Ray experience, and what can we be expecting some
new music from La Ray?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Absolutely expecting some music. The goal is July August, okay, September, October, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
December.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, but I'm working okay know that.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
So do you have a goal in mind in terms
of like let's play, let's just play a game. Okay,
how many records do you want to have done this
year alone.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
For the project, for the project to be complete.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
For this project probably like a good twelve twelve.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
How many songs do you have ready to go on
that project right now?

Speaker 3 (28:53):
None?

Speaker 1 (28:53):
None? Okay, so we say that zero? Yes?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And is there a reason for this? Are you're still
getting the ducks in a oh? Is it overthinking? Is
it just you know, things haven't lined up the right way?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Like? Where where is it for for you?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I feel like with me being so focused with the
l A RA experience, that's all I was locked in
on you, and so I took a break. I actually
have a session tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
So that's where we about to be at.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Got you, got you?

Speaker 3 (29:20):
Yeah? Okay, Yeah, it's go time.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
No. I was yeah yeo that. I feel like the
momentum is exactly it is here.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I got to just keep on coming with it.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
So yeah, right, man, man again, I love that you've
You've created opportunities for yourself. One thing I wanted to
kind of it on you. You said something about it
was really on on the tip of like the word

(29:55):
is slipping my mind. You didn't say the actual world
entitlement right, shout to Gene and all the amazing things
that she's doing, that being your best friend.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
And you're saying like, oh, I.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Just felt like I kind of liked that that was
my girl, and you know, these opportunities should come to me.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
When did you? You said God humbled you?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
What was that wake up call for you to say, Okay,
I got to regroup and kind of figure this out
and understanding that nothing is.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Old, right, you know, I have to earn this right,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
When she first started doing her ciphers, got it And
so I'm not saying I felt the way about her,
not ever like asking me to do it. That was
just the eye opener for myself, like, oh, I need
to start putting myself out there so I can be
on one of the ciphers. Yeah, And so fast forward,
I was on the first cipher with pro Club with her.
So it's all like you said, it's all about God's
time and just me having to learn that it's not

(30:48):
about my timing at all. And even with me getting
on that cipher, I felt like I was already set
a sound for myself, Kanu's tone everything when I got
in there, I did it first first take stop playing
with me, okay, but like all in all, like I'm

(31:09):
just not an opportunist or just like to like a fan.
I don't even know the word for it, but like
just to ask for favors, you know, like I want
you to see me working and then we'll have a
conversation when it's time, you know. Like even when I
first met you, it was at the West Coast Confidential

(31:33):
Videos Chuck, and do you know that is I was like, yes,
I remember when we left. We was just turning the car.
We was like, that's gonna be the first rate, that's
gonna be the first radio station you're gonna be on
with Chuck And look where we at you. I cannot
make this up.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
I did not know that.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
I tell you where.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
We've talked plenty of times yesterday.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I just don't want you think I'm fanned out, which
we've because we've built like a bond of relationship.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Ray will be in the club a for an hour.
It is about life and that's why I said this
goes beyond music. I'm a fan of the music, but
I'm a fan of a person.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Man, it's happen like that.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Likewise, it's so funny about that that video shoot is
that that was the first time that I realized that.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
All of the seeds that we had.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Planted with Homegrown had flourished. And I was like, dude,
look at all these artists in here, this working together?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
What it was there? Sham Playing, was there? KB, Epic,
Daisy was there? Was he even doing Corner Store?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Then?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
I don't think he was doing Corner Store then.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
If he was, it may have been like one episode
or two episodes in because I know Epic was the
very first one he had did.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yes, and I was like number twenty see like so,
but just to see.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
The rottery of the artists and just just look at
the landscape of like, oh man, this is fire. You
know some people that I knew, some people that I
didn't know, And I was just like, I love seeing
the landscape of this la hip hop because you know,
a lot of people have a lot of shit to say, exactly,
and we can't get caught up in the noise exactly.

(33:20):
And I just love how everybody supporting each other and
just making it happen. So that was the first time
that was I want to say like two two three,
maybe three years ago, two years.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like twenty twenty one, because that's when I did the
want video.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Damn.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
So yeah, shutter DJ Artistic that was how Yes, oh man,
that's right.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Artistics used to throw. She has just throwing a party
in a while, but he has used to have some legendary.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Parties spot Artistics. But yeah, that was the first time.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
I was like, dude, man to see like for once,
I was like okay with yo. If not saying that,
I am, but if I decided to hang it up,
I'm like, Yo, the mission.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
That's when I started saying, Yo.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
The mission has been accomplished because when we started, there
were no opportunity. I'm not gonna say no, there was
very few and limited opportunities. You can literally count the
platforms like on one hand, right, and the artists that
were working together. We knew it, you know, the circles
and the clicks or whatnot. But just to see people

(34:20):
working together, I'm like, oh, there's multiple opportunities be people
working together.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yo. The mission is accomplished. So when we set to
do it's this is the the harvest of it. So man,
both had a connection that that that that video. Shoot
that f that's fire. I love to ask.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
People, the year can't end without you doing what? What's
on your bucket list? It could be career wise, it
could be life wise, it can be whatever, like what
the year can't end without la rate doing what?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Taking a trip you want to go? I'm going to
Panama in two weeks, so.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
You're doing it. Yeah, this ship is happening. Yeah, have
you been.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I've been when I was eight years old with my
grandmother and I had an asthma attack.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I mean, that's not that's not it's funny. It's not.
It's nothing like, nothing funny about that. Funny about that
you got asthma.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
I don't know what your name was.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Finish went away? Do you you got an Heather steal Er? No? No,
When does your asthma go away?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I don't know. I guess when I came back.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
From Panama because athma. That was only one time.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
I swear, because it's very human. I remember the humidity
out there. It's very human.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
So you have asthma, I don't know you.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
That's what the doctor throw my grandma.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
You false flagged when you know? So the thing is
I'm a real asthmatic. That's why I'm sorry. No that
you ain't apologize.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Myth It's not funny. It's not funny. But I'm sad.
Don't false flag with your asthma. I had thebut rock
I had to vent. It's real, it was real.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
But mind what I was asking because mine, like when
we had the apartment in Inglewood long wrong like that
twenty like twelve, right before I got married, okay away, yeah,
and I grew up with it. I had, like I
have all that, So I was wondering, like, yo, yours
just went away too?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, Well, honestly I had. I had seizures when I
was a kid.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
She don't one up me. No, no, no, I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I wasn't up until how old mom, like like fifth grade.
It was the epilepsy one.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
So it was.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I remember my mom took square. My mom took me
to a cheerleading tryouts for Inglewood Jets, and during the tryouts,
I so with etilypsy, you stare off in space like
you just be just somewhere else. And I remember the
coach going up to my mom and whispering something in

(36:49):
her ear, and I just I just start crying because
I already knew, like, damn, I must have it must
have happened just now. So because I would never feel
when I'm in the moment of, you know, having this,
it looks.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
I'm very ignorant to it. Yeah, how do you feel
like that in those moments? How do you feel? Is
it just like you freeze? Do you feel pain?

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Like? I don't know, don't just like I'm just in
la la land. For really, I think it was one world.
I already felt myself in it. I was in a
classroom in fourth grade. This was when I started going
to public school, and I just I was like, oh
my god, it just happened just now. But I ended
up growing out of it.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Do you have a in that time? Do you have
a sense of like how long you're in it or
out of it?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
No?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Wow, that's that's gotta be scary.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, that was insane. It was in and out of
the hospital. I remember she was only about taking my medication.
Shout out to my mom, man, because I just can
only imagine as a mother having to witness that and
then having to get cat skins. Damn there every month,
Like I remember that to.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
You're just saying that that that eventually went away.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yes, that's that's what I was saying. So that's what
I'm saying. It's very much possible.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, man, Yeah, So one thing that and I'm referred
back to this and I'll bring it full circle when
this is at the music and media event one of
the things. And I apologize, I don't apologize. I got
emotional up there, right, But one thing that got me

(38:16):
there was seeing my mom's front row, right, and then
I just remember like the support that she had and
has for me throughout my career. I talked to a
lot of people, right, and one of the common themes
is that when you're on this journey, whether it be music,
creative or something that's not traditional, the traditional path that

(38:38):
gets you money so to speak, sometimes family just don't
get it. And it's no harm, no foul. But even
with you know, my mom not knowing the business and
the entertainment business, she still supported, right, And that's what
I love about you and your family. Yes, you know,
talk about the importance of that, whether you know believed

(39:00):
from jump war didn't like the fact that she was.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
In your corner the whole time.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
She's in your corner, right, supporting, Like how important is
that for you on your journey, you know, pursuing this.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yes, first and foremost. I boohooed caright in there when
you shout out your mom. I just really want you
to know. I'm happy my videographer didn't get that because
because I felt it, because just how I feel from
my mom, Like anywhere I go, she's she's there, no question,
And I feel like, I'm so adamant about that because
you just don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
You just don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
I don't want to talk about international, but so I
just want her to be on this journey with me.
When I first heard her, I want to start rapping.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
She laughed really in a sense of like way, like girl,
you serious.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
I'm like, I'm serious, And I forgot what song I
said there.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
She was like, oh you rapping?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
You you could do this.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
And I'm a music here because of my mom.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
And that's just listen to back in the day, Little.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Kim R Kelly Issley Brothers. We know just one twelve?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
What else?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Mama? Empty Light? Foxy Brown?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Like did that lead into the inspirations too? Who's your
favorite artist?

Speaker 3 (40:17):
My favorite artist? We're not gonna ask me that.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I'm about to ask you because I know what you're
about to say.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
What you think I'm finna say.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
You're a fan, You're a fan, got shack, you're a fan.
You're a fan. You're a fan. It's okay.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I am an Aubrey fan.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Hey, there's there's nothing wrong.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
I just I just be okay, So let me break
it down. I just love that he's a storyteller, and
I think that's ultimately where I kind of got it from.
And I just love, like just to break down in
the middle of a song like the Switch, Like I
just gravitated to him. I remember I became a fan
of him when him and Wayne drop Ransom. Wow, oh

(40:59):
my goodness. I was like, yeah, he got it, like
you know. And so I'm sorry y'all.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
So of course, why you apologizing.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Don't apologize about that, man, nah man looks it's okay.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm curious what your reaction was to everything that's been
happening transpiring at throughout this last year, right, because I
can imagine being I've seen Gena talk about it. She
was like, man, I got my name, because right, she's
been public about her her, her her thoughts throughout this
whole battle, but for you, you know, we're removed from it.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
You know, it is what it is. What were your
thoughts as this whole thing was happening, were you like,
he's got to.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Come back, he gonna come on something, Yeah, autumn stories,
you were saying you ain't got one story right now?

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Hey you feel me like that just in a boat,
like come on, come on.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
But I just it's frustrated now. She can't even think crazy.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Kendrick stood on all ten and I respect it, Like
you know, I couldn't even be I was tweeting through
all of it, like you know, like I can't even
be biased about it. This is music. This is what
we're supposed to be doing, like fast forward, even with
the Joey badass situation and ship like, this is what
the fun you're supposed to be doing. And so like
even like throughout the years, you know, everybody try to

(42:16):
compare Drake and Kendrick. You feel me, Cole, It's like
they are both in a lane of their own. Let's
not do that. So when it got to this point,
I'm like, here we go again, what's the here we
go again? What's that game? You know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I don't know, but I was thinking about here we go.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
That's just going that way. But I mean that's the
whole thing with this is back and forth. I don't
like the narrative that you can't be one a fan,
you can't be a fan of one and the other.
I think that that's where, you know, it just got
crazy within everything. It's like, and I see it online
the moment you tweet about Kendrick, you got some owls

(42:55):
in your comments, and then vice versus, you know, vice
versus the other way around. It's like, ok to be,
It's okay to be. And Drake fanus okay, Like if
you respect him as an artist, that's that's fine. Yes,
it's okay, No, no big deal. So that's your favorite artist?

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Now?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Is there anybody that you've either been in the studio
with met throughout this whole process that you are you know,
a fan of that you were like damn, just just wow,
like wow moments for you, whether it be in the
studio meeting somebody like throughout the years, Like for.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
You, this was like a serious LA moment. So when
I got out of high school, you know, it was
Joe Moses, T Fly, dumb and problem fast forward. You know,
I was working with Michael Keys shout out to shout
out to my Keys, and so you know, Problem works

(43:49):
with them as well. And so while we just in
the studio, I'm just like never in my in the
studio with Problem, like you feel me and this for
my la Natives for real, for real, people don't understand
how much of a goat Problem is. Like you know,
just got to give him his flowers, and so I
just remember it was a conversation we had and he

(44:11):
was like, okay, you you can wrap. It's like you
know that's what it is, but it's like what it is?
What do you do that stands out in each song?
Like you know, what's gonna capture somebody's ear, like you know.
And so just for him just to take time and
have that conversation with me is it was just something
I hold on to. And he's just a cool, cool,
cool dude.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, man's problems literally like a utility belt.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
He can do everything.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yes, so cold like give me the studio, He's gonna
drop some he can make a tape one day. Yeah,
and that's where I want to end up. Back we said,
that's what that's why I want to end up.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, damn dude, Okay Morgan versus La Ray? Yes, is
there a difference? If so, what is the difference between
Morgan and La.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
I feel like Morgan is the nine to five, put
my Amazon voice on Zoom meetings, meeting with clients, making
sure their mental is good. La Ray is a switch,
like I like, a different personality, like I really don't

(45:21):
even know for real, Like I damn La Ray just
because I feel like, of course both Morgan La Ray
is authentic. It's just La Ray is just more spicy,
like I'm here in your face, like you know, and
Morgan is just more so like shy, observing, like you know,

(45:43):
just so used to my village, like you know, La Ray,
we got a network, we got.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
You. Do you enjoy that side of it as far
as what networking and all the things that it takes
to be an artist, because I mean, at the end
of the day, independent, it's a it's a music.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Business and we have to do it.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah, Like like Heather had said, like you have to
be cool with people you don't like, and That's where
I'm at with it.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
So one thing you did, well, we'll we'll end in
just a second. But I love the fact that again
at the the Musical Media, man, when Heather b you
asked a question and she's like, what do you do?

Speaker 1 (46:22):
I wrap?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
She's like, we'll rap right, Yeah, what's La showed up
and showed out that's light.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Okay. So that's a perfect example. Chuck, Like, literally, I
was Morgan when you went up and asked a question.
I was Morgan and then she said rap l A
Ray came up. I'm all right, clap y'all, let's get it.
You feel me going back to salad shout out to salads.
He told me every it don't matter half something written
in a vote, like, because it's going to be somebody
that's going to tell you to go like what do

(46:48):
you do?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Like on the spot.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
So that's just what it was. I'm all right, let's
let's get it. Look, man, that was a perfect example.
I love.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I just love to see the growth. I love to
see the potential.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I love to just I love these conversations with you, man,
and I want to see I want to see more
of La Ray yes coming. And I appreciate these conversations.
I just want just put this in here for reference.
And you know, this is the first and many man. Yes, sir,
if there's anything you want to tell the people before
we get up out of here, what's that one thing you.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Want to let the people know.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
What I want to let the people know is whatever
it is that you're currently going to to, not give
up on yourself. Always lean on God and not your
own understanding. And just know this is all a part
of your testimony. It's all about your process, all a
part of your journey. And make sure to lean on
your village. You cannot do this by yourself. I know

(47:39):
I always advocate about myself isolating a lot, but I
have a whole village behind me that checks in on me,
and when I'm feeling like I need to reach out
to them, I do. So. Do not be afraid. And also,
if you're currently struggling with your mental health, please do
not be against going to therapy. I feel like a
lot of people, especially Black community, they always feel like

(48:02):
going to therapy means you're crazy, and that's far from
the case. You're taking that step to acknowledge and addressing
the traumas and the triggers that you continue to go through.
So get help, and that's just uh showing like self
love like you know you're willing to want to take
that step.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
So God, bless God, bless man.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Right, I appreciate you, Yeah, sir, thank you, Chuck.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
You gonna be back, Yeah, A long time coming, but
I appreciate you coming on through. Man. You look out
for everything.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
L A.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Right.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
You know she's gonna go to Panama and then she's
gonna come back with some music. Yes, absolutely, Chuck will
keep it home wrong we live direct catch y'all next time,

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