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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Right, be back at it, Chuck does some live and
direct keep it at home grown as always. Man, I
got the homies in the house with me right now.
Been seeing the grind and seeing the growth and seeing
the evolution over the years.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
And I'm not gonna call.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You by the original name like I did the last
time we had this conversation.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Over and loud.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We have Elijah Banks in here, we got Twizzy Twitsch
up in here. I legal business and well, I definitely
want to want to talk about that that angle and
that your your business mind frame, and we just gonna
have a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, for sure, it's a family conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's good to see you guys, man, just continuously working
and making strides.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
And I feel like I see you guys everywhere, just
out and.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
About wearing a couple of people.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Why why is that important?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
I mean, you guys are always boost to ground, But
why is that always important to just make sure that
you're not not just shaking hands and you know, kissing babies.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Just making sure that people are seeing you guys while
you know, make it your rounds.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You know, it's just it's important to make sure that
you connect with the people. You know what I'm saying,
familiar face. I feel like familiarity helps when it comes
to branding. Yeah, and I've been learning and marketing that
marketing is eighty percent of what people see now, what
they hear, now, what they're told.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
So yeah, we made a lot of a lot of
moves that that the average person probably wouldn't be able
to make, just because we've been seeing so many times
that people started asking and trying to figure.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Out who we actually were, right.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Right right.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
It opened up a lot of doors, opened a lot
of doors.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So and I want to talk about that too, man,
because having those conversations, you know, being seen, like you said,
opens up a lot of opportunities. And I feel like
that's something that people can, especially artists and just anybody
business people kind of learned from. So I'm gonna get
your your your your twists on the second man, But
let's take.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It back man, long Beach. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, Elijah Banks, formally known as Nasty, I gotta.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Put it out there. I gotta put it out there.
Look now they gotta know, they gotta know where it
came from.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
But talk about the transition from doing that and we
had that conversation that rolland loud, but just formally on
the record, going by E Nasty and then transansitioning to
Elijah Banks. For you, was that more of like a Okay,
this is a stamp of me taking it serious. Do
you feel like you took it serious? Ass's Nasty?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I felt like at the end of my Nasty journey,
like the last two years, I felt like I realized
what I wanted out of music, and I started taking
it serious. But when I went to Elijah Banks, I
think all it did was highlighted growth, you know, evolution,
because my sound was changing, my look was changing, just
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my whole aspect on everything was changing. And when I
changed to Elijah Banks, I'm not gonna lie, I felt
a hundred times better. I felt a hundred Like, Yeah,
my whole city, like Carson Long Beach, bro, we had
this thing called Nasty's and you from cars to south
if you heard about Nasty, that was my thing.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I had three hundred people from this clique, you know
what I'm saying, And my whole city knew me as this,
and so it was kind of scary to transition because
it's it's your identity. It was my identity for sure,
And I was like, how do I start over? How
do we go from where we at back to ground
zero and then build it back up?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And I'm happy that I did it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That was because you know, with Big Boy as well man,
was that conversation ever had prior?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Like did he met you as he nasty?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He met me as he nasty? He liked the name,
you know what I'm saying. But you know, I feel
like there was different conversation. There wasn't a conversation that
I had with Big per se, but people around Big
were having conversations with me and they were like, Yo,
what does his name mean to you? And when it's crazy,
like when people ask you certain questions and you don't
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have a real answer for it, that's the answer, you
know what I'm saying, Like you have you have realization
and it didn't mean the same thing that it used
to mean to me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I'm sure you would be asked multiple times and like
after the fourth or fifth time or like multiple times
being asked, if you still can't come up with an answer,
that's like you said, that's the answer right there. It's like,
oh damn, Okay, that's the wake up call.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
He nasty came from a runchy side of me. Like
I was in high school.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You know, we were throwing parties, were doing ratchets, ratchet stuff,
you ratchet activities, you feel me in And I kind
of I kind of glorified being a nasty type of
you know whatever whatever. And I realized as I got older,
I'm like, bro, I'm becoming a man. You know what
I'm saying all that. You know what I'm saying, bank
stands for being average, never accepted. You know what I'm saying.
(04:42):
So it's like, that's what I'm pushing to the kids.
That's what I'm pushing on his journey. And I feel
like it just feels right, it feels legendary.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I love that man. How did you twizzy twitch? Like?
How did you guys link up.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Legendary store?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Yeah, shout out to Tay. I had a long beach
at all. It was on some not some gang bangs.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
It was I was walking by Tay deal with Tau, yeah,
and he turned into somewhere you're from type situations, right,
And I was there with some actors and randomly I
was with next to Cause. But anyway, I was there
with some actors. It was at Rolling in Loud and
it was like a situation, but it wasn't really like
a real situation, you know, l a Aries Aries gang.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
He was.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
He was there and he came up to me, was like,
I don't worry about that, don't worry about all that.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
What's up? My name as Blah.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I was like, okay, cool, we mean Arias just got cool.
He sent me up a few days later and was like, Hey,
I need a ride to the studio. I see you
on Long Beach. I was like, you might give me
a ride. I had nothing to do. I was like yeah.
I was like, I got you, so give me a ride.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
And I was.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
He was like, uh, the the people I was rolling
Loud upstairs and I'm mind my head. I still got
a little little you know, young young and with it.
But I was like, all right, so we go upstairs.
Everybody everybody that was at the bro when I was
in there, they were making a song.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It was my session.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Yeah, he had a beat on like on repeat, but
nobody was saying nothing. And they was like everybody was drinking, smoking,
chilling blazi bly and Banks was just sitting there waving
for somebody to, you know, do something.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, I was orchestrating everything.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Nobody was doing nothing, and I'm just a fly on
the wall. I just really just walk in the room
and nobody knew me. They were about to switch the
beat and I was like, no, no, the wait, hold on,
I got something so that I just get in the booths,
I do something. They thought it was hard, and then
him just started working together ever since.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's crazy, like you said, being being and being visible
and being created an opportunity just being yeah, right, you know,
making yourself valuable at the time, giving a homie ride.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Hey look, I ain't gonna lie to tell you, bro,
And how everything played out like like if Tay wouldn't
have said anything to him, I probably wouldn't know this guy.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And this is one of my best friends.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
In his music you feel me so like like been
across the country and back with me multiple times. So
it's like when he when he just got up and
he was like, man, y'all ain't gonna be y ain't
wrapping on this man.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
This throw me in the booth. In my eyes, I
was like, who is this nigga?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Right? I was like, who is this, and then he
went in there and spas real quick when and then
he came out, He's like, all right, y'all, you feel me?
And they kind of just did his thing and dipped.
I'm like, I like this, nigga, you feel me? And
so I started like like I hit him up at
Roland Loud Miami.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
We linked.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Ever since then, we've been rocking. And that's how the
people know it, you know what I'm saying. That's how
the people know. When you see Banks, you're gonna see Twisty.
When you see twis you gonna see Banks?
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Damn?
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I mean that that that camaraderie, Like, I think that's
important too, because it's not only are you pushing with somebody, right,
but it's somebody that holds you accountable as well.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
The thousand percent on that part.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That when when if you guys had to hold each
other accountable.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Every day all the time.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yesterday, Twizzy hard on me, you know what I'm saying,
and vice versa, as far as I feel like I'm
hard on Twizzy about h music, yeah, and he's hard
on me about life. And I felt like it's a
great balance, you know what I'm saying, because I didn't
grow up with a I was. I was the only child,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's my brother. Yeah,
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I'm learning a lot from being around him and even
his family, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's a
lot of things that I pick up and I learned.
So it's like when you got a partner in anything
you do, and especially business, it helps you push to
you know a lot of places that you probably didn't
think you could go.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
What was the introduction for music for y'all?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Think I've ever asked you that, Like, Yeah, how did
you get introduced to music?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
The jerk era? No?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But did I get that? Saying like even before that
was it? Was it something that that you were always into, Like, yeah,
you're being played in the house for sure.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Music was always being played in the house from my grandparents,
the all these my uncle and then I used to
ride around with my uncle bro when like when I
was eight nine years old, and all.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He would listen to is DPG two pod like I'm
talking about. He was listening to stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
My mom was not trying to let me listen to Wow,
And so that's why, you know, because when I was younger,
I was in the in Sync and Britney Spears and
Aaron Carter. I was into the pop realm because that's
what that makes so much sense. Oh wow, that does
make so much sense.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That does make sense. That's like style like that, And.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
That's why I asked that, because I'm like, you have
a polished sound for people that don't know Elijah banks Man.
You you sound packaged, right, And of course that comes
through years of work and experience and things of that nature.
But I feel like it what a lot of people
are trying to achieve, You've kind of already accomplished, you
know what I'm saying in terms of like sonically and
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sonically sonically, it's easy for me too.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I actually have like you put on a ratchet record.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I need this nigga, you know, I need him to
help me be able to perform on it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You give me a country beat.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
You can rock beat, a pop R and b afrobeat.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's like, oh yeah, I swear, let's do it a lot.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
You will hit me every probably once once a month
with a new.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Type of record, a new new sound whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
And one of the latest ones was bad bad. He
was like, yeah, let me just let me just say
this here. First, I went to the studio and I
recorded this record. I am my worst enemy. I didn't
really I was just like, man, this is a different sound.
Even when I hit Chuck, I was like, Bro, I
don't know how I feel about this. Chuck was like,
I don't know why you don't just finish it and
(10:27):
put it out with it. Chuck, you are the reason
why that record came out so fast. I just want
to let you know right now.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Bro, because I feel like you you sit on a
lot of music I do, and I'm glad you have.
So it's on my head too, like to probably you know,
nudge you as well, like he bro, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Like release that? Like like get on it? You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Want to me to release? Novercame three years ago.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Man, So I mean I want to.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
I want to get into a legal business man because
I know you know you're a hell of a business man.
Talk about the brand, and I know I asked you
to say roll on loud, but again, just for for
for the conversation right now, what is illegal business? Because
a lot of people they'll see it, they'll think one thing,
But I know that that's a part of the marketing.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
You know, how I really how it really started, like
how it really came up, Like how what I like
the original designs for it. A lot of people weren't
a lot of fake designer, right, Like if you look
on some of the clothes, it'll say this is a
legal designer. So a lot of people kept rocking fake designers.
So the first shirt I made, I don't know if
you remember, remember it said this is a legal door.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh I didn't remember that first one.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
It was a black and white one.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Right, yeah, yeah, this is a legal doors. And I
made like a whole bunch of them, like this is
a legal product, this is a legal blissiaga, And people
liked that. But then we had the we had a
there was no name for the company or anything, you know,
So after some brainstorming and life politics, you know, it
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just started to make sense. Like the term illegal was
just just fit in a lot of different spaces, right,
But I didn't want to called it legal. So you know,
we are calling it a legal business, but it's not
literally about breaking the law at all. And I think
that's what everybody thinks. And however you want to take
it is, you know, that's on you because it's a
lifestyle brand, so it fits to whoever's wearing it for
whatever purpose they're wearing it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You feel me.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
It's not about breaking the doll about breaking the law.
It's literally about doing stuff that other people are scared
to do, you know what I'm saying, Like taking chances,
taking risks, taking.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like spending that bread to make it back.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Yeah, I don't know how many countless times. I mean,
the business itself was a risk. This is gonna work.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Put it on.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
People liked it and started selling like crazy. You know.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
It's like like I see it like nobody even knows
I owned it half the time. I see it in
so many music videos now I see I've been seeing.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
It like it was like it was like a like
a wave that just like hit and everybody just started
wanting it.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know, a lot of questions got to ask and
then we just made the website and it started going crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I love it because it's like it's it's one of
those things where you don't expect it to work and
it does, and it's like like you said, it started
off from just a one off and then you know,
kind of building off of that do you feel like
people are understanding that that's what the mission is and
understanding it in that sense, or you're still having that
those conversations.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I'm logical, like I still have this conversation like I'm real,
I'm logical.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
I get it. Yeah ignorance, Yeah, people love ignorance.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Facts, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
That's all we got the you know these other brands
out here with the with the long title names doing
work because yeah, people love ignorance and it is what
it is. So when people see the clothing line is
funny because I have two different perspectives.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
I have I have I have.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I have.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
The mayor like the brand, and she wanted the mayor
but wait wait the marror what of Cali?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So wait, no, think the mayor of who? Well I'm
not in L A. L. Karen be Yeah. Yeah, I
was just about to say. I was like I want something.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah bro, no, bro, for real.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
But this is what the concept because this is where
this is why I started realizing, like how people are
looking at there's a legal business in politics.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
There's a legal business. Whole country was built off politics.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Hood you go to the hood, you might see legal
business on the street corners. It's layers to bro you're
talking to a hacker. You might see illegal business in
the computer space. There's there's there's so many different types
of people that are taking it their own ways.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
And then there's and then you know, I got this legal.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
This is a legal designer slogan going forth and people
are just running with that. So there's just like a
whole community of people that do nothing illegal. They just
let they're just sneaker heads that like street brands.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And taking a life of its own.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's cool. I'm watching it grow I'm watching
it grow up. I spoke to a few people at
marathon about it, and you know, they they love the brand.
So it was like, you know, we got the as
a community. We got to see them build something for nothing.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
So multiple they're seeing this.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
And they see something like potential out of it kind
of gives us like motivation to keep going.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't know, it's cool talk about talk about the
brand versus the artist, Right, So the artist side, you know,
you're working and doing your thing, but also the brand side,
the brand side is taking off of having a life
of its own, and that wasn't the thing that you
kind of like set off to do so. And I'm
sure you're learning by day, you know what I'm saying,
(15:22):
you learn by the day on this thing. So how
do you navigate that process?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know where you have great questions.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You have the music that you love and I'm sure
that that's what you want more attention on as well,
or or I don't know, you can tell me how
how you feel about it, but the brand is getting
more attention than the artist, right yeah, how do you
deal with that? Is that like, oh, yeah, this is
this is the way I like it. Man, I would
want to kind of carry out to the music a
little bit more.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Or how do you feel about it?
Speaker 5 (15:49):
I think it goes hand in hand. When the when
the when the when the brand blows up, we're blowing
up because we're seeing with it, right yeah, when the
when the music blows up, they're seeing the brand more.
I don't know, it goes hand in hand. They both
have helped each other, yea randomly, unpredictably, but they both
have helped each other in their own way.
Speaker 6 (16:06):
I don't I don't.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I don't look at uh, the brand as being exactly
bigger than anything. Yet I think the brand has started,
and I'm starting. As far as like artists goes, I
think we're both just rising. I'm just going with whatever punch.
Most people have nine of five's, Like most rappers I know,
they either have a nine to five or they trapping
or they doing you know whatever, right, Like it's rare
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that any like that. Any artist that's coming up off
top is making money. They have to eat somehow, they
have to support theirselves somehow. This is my nine to five,
This is my you know what I'm saying, Like the
studios that we own, that's our that's our daily grind.
Like like I'm treating this like this is my job.
I'm treating this is my job while the music does
this thing.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I love the fact that you said half the time
people don't even know it's shoe.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Yeah yeah, that's not important to me. It never was
important to me, no business I ever owned, because first
of all, it can you know, lifestyle wise, it could
be dangerous sometimes and people know what where you're trying,
what you're at, which, like you know, you don't never
know what's gonna happen. I can have a problem somewhere here.
But now people that are working here, can can you know,
face some of my issues because but now it's never
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what's important to me. I think people sometimes get so
caught up in the idea of being a boss and
being able to say, yeah, I'm a boss, that they
forget the most important part about business, making money. I
don't care who claims in the boss right, Like there's
a lot of stuff I own and my team being like, yeah,
it's ours, it's you know what I'm saying. I have
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no care in the world. That's not important to me.
We're all making money.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You feel me.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
I'm gonna steer the ship when the stip ship needs
to be steered.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But the titles aren't are nothing.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I'm real big on It's it's in the same realm,
but it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I'm on.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I'm big on like you a power forward, here a center,
I'm a point guard.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
That does not mean that I don't move to your
position if I have to. I'm big he knows this.
I'm big on, like I'm gonna pick up a camera
if I have to. You feel me, I'm gonna pick
up a bro. It don't matter. Whatever we need to
do to get the job done. As a as a
unit one band one.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And when I see you, I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You know, you drip down in legal businesses and and
and that's not to say that you know, you're gonna
not start your own stuff or whatever the case may be.
But it's like, Yo, my brother's got something, So I'm
gonna support that.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
It's one ship. I'm not gonna build a ship. I'm
not building a ship on top of a ship that
I'm already on. We like you said you got if
we got a Statis ship whatever. You know what I'm saying,
focus on one thing and and and support it like
it is your own. And I feel like that's how
niggas is gonna really win.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Now, Okay, So there's been a lot of stuff going
on in the country, man, and man, I want to
talk about this because it's affected uh, some some opportunities
that popped up.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You hit me a couple of weeks back, and he
was excited because there was a tour situation that was happening.
Now things have been postponed. Can you kind of open
up about what's been happening, what's been going on?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Yeah, you know, we was on the Blue Hundreds tour
with King Log and Drummer Boy. You know, unfortunately Ice
has lost their damn minds and they they are they're
acting very abruptly, and we don't want to put our
fans at risk, you know, with them being able to
know exactly where a certain type of you know, the
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demographic is going to be out at a certain time.
So we're we you know, as a collective, we've chosen
to postpone. It still gonna do the same route, same
same venues, just kind of figuring out what the lad
of land was. Yeah, it's just gonna be a little
bit later summertime. It's a little hot right now. Everybody's tripping,
so we just want everybody to stay safe and and
(19:56):
and stay indoors if they can. And you know, that's
a that's a tough situation to be in, man, because
it's like you, with everything happening, the one thing that
you do.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
By entertaining people, you want people to go out and
have fun.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
The last place you would expect people to kind of
hang out and get in trouble at like that to
to you know, it is a show, and it's like
I've been seeing a lot of things take place.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Man, it just where the car washing like they're very
They're targeting for sure, they're targeting certain regions and certain
markets and locations and stuff like that. So it's it's
getting really wild and I and I just I pray
for everybody, and I just I can't wait till everything
goes back to normal.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, for sure. Man, talk about the music, man, now
you here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I'm hesitating because there's so much shit that you send me,
so I don't know what I can speak on and
what I can't speak on.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
So I'll let you guys divulge into.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
What's coming up, what's happening, What music are you, what's
in the works. What can we expect from Elijah Blanks,
from Twizzy Twitch collectively or individual?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Like we got something to cut I'm excited for. I'll
let him talk about that. You got what you got?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Well?
Speaker 6 (21:09):
He look for I do no, because I do. We do.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I've been working on the project for about a year
and a half. It's done cold, Yeah, it's done cold.
I called in a lot of favors once again. I
owned a lot of recording studios. I did a lot
of fairs with people.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
So ain't that Ain't that the best situation to be.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
It's like, yeah, now I got big records coming out
though man and I ran under DJ Drama and he
wanted to host the.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Tape Wow Wow album about DJ. I'm talking about chocloaded
with features leg.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I wanted to really rap, like I was like, so
you know, when Drama said he was on board, I
decided like, okay, cool, So I want to really really wrap.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So I want to.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I want to.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
I want to challenge myself amongst people I think can
really get down. So I hit Jadakiss up. Jadakiss got
on a record with us here Gpairrika up. I got
one with O T, Genesis and Jack coming out. I
mean r J just dropped something that that r J
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so go baby, that's that's gonna be on the album.
I brought out the Hustler from you know, from retirement, Like,
I got Cassidy on the record.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
And he's gave me O G.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Cassidy. Yeah, he's passed, he's fast. He gave me real
good Cassidy. So okay, And this is the first time
I was speaking about this.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
What's what's the.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Pitch when you have to talk to these people, you
know what I mean, and reaching out for you what
when when you have to tap back in four favors
or just reaching out to people right like what what
do you? How do you how do you make that
pitch to him? How do you have that conversation?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
It's not even like it.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
Don't you feel like a pitch is more of just like, hey,
I got a record for you and just like, yeah,
let's do it.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Got it?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
You know, It's like it's simple because it's yeah, something
I don't I think people underestimate the fly on the wall, right,
Like I've been in rooms with all these people and
I've watched them record, do their thing, never ask them
for a thing, never just always been chilling, right they heard.
It's like a mutual respect. I make music, they rock
with it. They make music.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I rock with it.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
Finally just said hey, let's get one in and be
like all right, let's do it. And that's it. You know,
It's like it's that simple. It's like a respect for
the craft. It's literally just a respect for the craft.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Being a fly on the wall.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
What are some of the things that you've kind of
like some mental notes that you've taken that not only well,
let let's let's start off with artists, right, and then
business people entrepreneurs that they can kind of and I
want to.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Go on both worlds, right, musically and business wise.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Being a fly on the wall, what have you noticed
that you know, those on the come up, some people
that that's starting off, or even people that are established.
What are some things that you've picked up on that
you feel like that they can kind of like some
gems that they can kind of take.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You get to learn when a lot of times people
do more talking than listening, and that's why they mess up. Right,
just listen sometimes you just gotta listen.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know what you know?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Why you telling them what you know? For I don't
tell nobody what I know.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I just listen.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I let people talk to his off. But no.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Being fun one on the studio watching the artists record, right,
you pick up some habits that he got that you
didn't think of. Right, everybody records different everybody, but everybody
records the same. It's weird, but you you learn, you
you you. That's just how you tap into other realms.
Just how I can make a song for the streets,
but I can also tap into a song that's commercial
you know what I'm saying. But that also that same
thing works in the business world too. I sometimes just
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sit back and ask questions, or I'll just sit back
and listen or just watch someone work. I have another
thing where we got coming out as is a food
truck called Twitch and Chicken. I have never I've never
had a restaurant, never worked out a fast food nothing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Right.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I got my homeboy Marathon, who did all right. I
just came up there and just watched them work all day,
you know what I'm saying, asking him questions about the
stuff he's come and out there with us on the
first day we open up, just to make sure we
got the workflow right. Watching and listening, that's it. And
learning and then and then implements. That's that's how I
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feel like.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's but I feel like that that's naturally who you
are as a person too. You're not over the top
like bragged dotion. No, you're gonna pop your pop your ship, right,
But it's like.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I'm almost chilling.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, you're not. You're not a rod type of person.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Do you think that that's something that everybody can kind
of adapt to as far as listening.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
I think they can I just think they don't want
to Sometimes sometimes everybody wants to be a big dog
in the you know, in the field.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
But it's it's chill.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I think people have doumb People have a hard time
not being the center of attention, especially artist, because this
is what we're just what we're supposed to be, supposed
to be the center of attention. Everybody's supposed to look
at me. You know, I wasn't always the most legit person.
I'm legit now, but I wasn't always the most legit person.
I wouldn't nobody.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Looking at it. That's the opposite.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Please don't, right, So it's it's like.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
People need to get over themselves and just take a
second and to just learn. Everybody can do it. Nobody's
exempt from learning. You don't know everything. You probably won't
ever know everything.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
That's okay, Lodgic Banks, what do you got coming up?
Speaker 3 (26:19):
What are you working on?
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Man?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Man?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
You know we're always working.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
And they got the R and B voice now different genres.
I understand.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You got you know that, the afro beats, you got reggae,
you got R and B RN banks.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Now you now you just weak and stuff. Man, These realms.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Man, what are you currently working on and how do
you how do you balance between different genres and stay
inspired right and to try new things? But at the
same time, this does come easy to you. So how
do you kind of say this and what are you working.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
On balancing out in the different realms. I'm gonna let
I'm gonna let you guys know, I have a d D.
Like I'm diagnosed. I used to take medicine when I
was younger.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
My mind just.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Can't stay focused on one thing. So it's I feel
like naturally it bleeds into my music. That's why, like
Twizzy knows, there was a I still do it. I'll
come into the studio and I work on three hooks
or two hooks in a verse and then you know
what I'm saying, Like, my mind just is so I can't.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Even explain it.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
But it helps me though, because it helps me create
at a at a larger quantity and also explore all
these different realms because I love you get bored easily. Essentially,
what we got coming out Nature Calling featuring Drew Aquino
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and West Side Boogie.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You know what I'm saying, very very crazy record.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Then me and Twizzy Twist dropping the record with Joe
Moses called trick on It, very crazy record.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Shout out to.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Joe Moses and West Side Boogie for coming through with
the verses. And then I'm dropping an album man on
September fifth. I'm not saying the title.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I'm not. It's the anniversary of when I dropped Should
Have Known Part two? Got It?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Got It?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You know what I'm say. I'm dropping it on the
same day. So new year, more growth.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Different sound, you know what I'm saying. I'm about to
just I don't know, it feels good. I'm really locked in.
I made this conscious decision of I've been working on
this album probably for like three months, but I made
the conscious decision to stop working on all my other
projects because I work on different albums out of time,
to just lock in on one. Yeah, because I'm working
on In my Head right now, which is like a
country pain type of album, like directed.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Towards mental illness. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I'm working on orang Banks, I'm working on a ME
and Twizzy got a project that we're dropping. So it's
like I had to put everything down to really focus
on this because I'm motivated It's like I got a
fire under me.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
What is the motivation behind this one that allows you
to put all the things to the side, because it
just naturally as you're talking, I would think that the
not because it's country, but the mental health thing would
be something that would be to the forefront. So why
is the one that you're working on right now the
one like that you can put everything else.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
To the side.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I'm just inspired right now, bro, I'm really just inspired
to when I when I when I lock in on something,
man's I get.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Obsessive over it.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So I can't really I don't really even have an
answer for that of what the what the inspiration is
versus all the rest of them.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It just feels like.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Sometimes that is answers just the feeling, like yeah, it
just can't explain it. It literally is just the feeling.
If that's it, that's a solid answer right there, and
maybe over time you'll figure out what that is as
you're creating.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
How complete is it?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I would say we're about fifty percent complete with all
the recording. I'm just waiting on like two features to
come in, and I think I have like three more verses,
but there's no news. Everything that's on the album is
touched already got so it's either missing a verse here
or some background vocals.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
But it's about fifty percent done.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And if I keep going in the studio like how
it been going, I think we can get it done
in the next two weeks.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
So you mentioned something earlier and I just want to
do rapid fire with this.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You said that the lodge, you said that, uh twas
he Uh, he motivates you in life and you I'm paraphrasing,
but you motivate him with the music. So what's one
gem tow I'll let you start. What's one gem that
he's given you about music that you're like, Okay, damn,
I can take that, like for sure, but it could
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be the latest thing he told you or just something
that you picked up over the years of known each other.
And then fire back at the question, what's one life
advice that Twizzy he's given you that you apply to yourself?
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
This guy always finds a way, you know. It doesn't
really matter what the I don't care if we're trying
to get in the club. I don't care if we're
trying to get in the club. I don't care if
we're trying to get on stage to perform somewhere. It
doesn't matter if we're trying to addis facts. Yeah, liked
it always finds a way. So he taught me that
you can. He taught me you can always find a way.
You just gotta figure it out, navigated, You gotta.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Figure out that applies to it to life and music.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah, you just gotta figure it out. There's a lot
of times when.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Before I met him, I'll go somewhere and be like,
the answer to be no. I'd be like, all right,
I'm saying, but then full of health too. He's just
you'd be like, all right, okay, but what if for real,
did you.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Talk to that person? What about them? Did you try
to backdoor?
Speaker 6 (31:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
He twizy if only you knew about that back door.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I feel like me and you are on the same
Like I'm quitting. It's not even a giving up thing.
But yeah, I ain't tripping, you know what I mean.
So for you, Elijah, what's one thing that you've learned
uh from from Twizzy Twitch over over the years.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
It's two things I want to talk about. For one,
stop being so emotional. And when I say that, he
didn't say it just like that. But it's like, you
gotta you gotta stop using your emotions on on such
a frequent basis.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
As far as when things go wrong or when you're
feeling some type of way, you just gotta get shit done,
you know what I'm saying. At the end of the day,
we men, we already knew what we signed up for.
Roll with the punches, bro, you know what I'm saying.
And also, and this is when we first met, I
felt like, stop worrying about looking cool. Just do the work.
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Don't don't be cool, just do the work.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
All the year can't end without Elijah Banks and Twizzy
Twist doing what.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
It could be music, it could.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Be career wise, it could be life like what is
one thing that this time next year when we have
a conversation that's gonna be checked off the box.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
I hope I walk in here and you are illegal
business down like this man.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
For the days it's easy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
And I hope somebody walks in here and be like, well,
you got a bump two thousand dollars right, that's how
expensive it is.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Not sure for sure.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Honestly, bro, I just want to spread love, and what
I want to check off my my checklist is to
becoming better than I was today.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
As long as I'm better than I was last year,
I think we're on the right.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I'm gonna let you get away with that answer.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Come on, man, I'm just it's got to be better
better at What give me one thing that you need
to be better at?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
You working out?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Definitely that on my soul. How many push ups can
you do? Come on, let's not do that.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
And I'm just going, I'm asking fifty. Fifty Okay, so
we're going I'm gonna hold you accountable.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So fift.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
We're gonna double up next time. Honey, honey, why not?
You want to be better? Right with that? And I
was talking musically, but damn, that's how I said music life.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So we're gonna get you on camera doing fifty push
ups and then we're gonna double back and make sure
you do a hundred at some point before the year ends.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Hey, let me.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I'm gonna call them to like, WHOA, I gotta call
into my Ai Cotton real quick.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
We get Ai this video, oh man, Elijah Blanks, Twizzy
twist Man. Always always great saying you guys, Always great
having conversations man. And you know I look forward to
to the progress and the growth and the illegal business.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
You know, you got to keep it home grown around here.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Absolutely, Chuck Dizzle live in direct, keep it at home.
Wrong will catch you out next time, Yes, sir,