Tuesday-5-14-2024

Episode Transcript

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I was concerned because I initially Isearched sky and it didn't come up because
our search thing on this next gensucks so bad. And then I thought,
maybe we just labeled it lunatics inthe system, so it's going to
have to check the alternative. Yeah, the's fun, I'm telling you,
man. We get around, weget around election time, and all of

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a sudden, everybody is so filledwith rage, which to some extent I
get, right, although arguably basicallythe entirety of the time that whoever you
like isn't in charge. That isour natural reaction these days to you know,
go out and scream and stuff.But people do it differently. Some

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people just vent their rage in amore traditional sense, you know, kind
of a one on one thing,like a couple guys getting together or some
women meeting up or whatever, andthey're just like, you know, they're
talking about life and stuff, howhard it is to do stuff, how
expensive stuff is, and then theyand then they vent there. But it's

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more of a general thing, rightWhereas you know, you look at a
bunch of folks who literally gather forthe purpose of versus it being the natural
progression of conversation, right, youknow, inherently you run into somebody at
the grocery store and you don't wantto have a negative conversation. But that

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person you look in their cart andthey have this thing that you just bought
that you can't believe was twice whatit costs three years, and then boom,
there's your conversation. I kind oflike the organizational nature of this because
it's easier to identify the lunatics.But I can't imagine signing up for something

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where you like inherently know all right, well we're gonna go and it's a
support group of sorts, but it'sjust us wiling out like crazy people.
I guess I don't know, maybeyou know some people. I've heard people
literally say that this is uh thesky Screamer or now and this is not
new. I just want to pointthis out. But like these these stories

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about how in this case, womenwomen gather, women gather to let out
the pent up rage. Do youremember and she do you remember in She
Hulk, like the first episode rosshow far did you get? Did you
watch even one episode? Or wereyou smart enough to go? Okay,

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but you're aware of the part whereShe's like, I have to practice being
happy every day while avoiding my ownrape and murder. Right, because that
thing went on the on the Twitter. You saw that statement, right,
Oh, I am dude. I'msorry. Do you realize how much better
your life was just prior to havingto listen to that insanity? All right?

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Well, that was a big thingthat It was a clip that I
saw over and over and over.And I point this out because it's like,
I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was that moment where,
even if you were giving it agood faith effort, you're like,
dimb out, So what do wehave here. We have a bunch of
women getting together and screaming, andthey're filled with rage, and they're filled

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with rage because the patriarchy. They'refilled with rage for you know, the
orange cheetoh leini whatever, all gatheredtogether and they're like, well, we
came up with this new way todeal with it, and this is always
how it goes. I'm like,oh, okay, well what's the new

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way? And by the way,I just want to be abundantly clear,
I'm not down on people gathering.And if you find it cathartic, if
you find it healthy for you,emotionally for your family. Like people gather,
people gather with affinity groups, likeminded sports fans, people gather with
folks we in things that are stressrelieving. Uh, you know, they

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go to the gym and they andthey get, you know, into that
culture. So and you know,or if you find running cathartic and you
want to, uh, you wantto get up with the that's not my
beef. That being said, I'msitting there and I'm watching this thing on
USA today and here's I'm going tolet you hear what it sounds like.
But so it's women just screaming ina circle. It's women with giant sticks

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beating the ground in a circle.It's women punching inanimate objects. Not so
much in a circle that I haveto hear about all the grievances. And
I'm like, I'm aware that thisstuff exists, but i feel like the
only reason we're doing this story isso you can be like and look at
look at what it's doing to womenaround you. They're losing their damn minds

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because of this guy. And I'mlike, well, some of them,
yeah, you know, like thesky screamers. The after Trump's inauguration and
I know, and I know whatyou're saying. You're saying, well,
k C, I saw that videothat was not all women, and I
would say that's your opinion. Butanyway, back to this, so here

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we go, Here we go.Uh, here's the women with the sticks
and the punch and stuff and thescreaming. I hear some similarity, a
little more organized. Yeah, andthis isn't tybo right, They're not all

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doing things standing behind Uh? Washe? Was it? Billy Blank?
No? He wasn't Tybou? Whatwas he? I don't know one of
them. Billy I remember Billy Blank'swas everywhere. It's like it's pretty loosey
goosey man. You know what else? It reminds me of the tree people

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in the woods of Ashville, rightor this out there pledging their love to
trees and bawling their eyes out.All right, I just can't this are
sticks banging on stuff. Let melet me say this, because this is
this is groundbreaking stuff. You're doinggolf. Okay, that's golf. You're

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doing golf. Can I for justabout yelling incoherently in many instances for no
discernible reason or no reason that shouldhave elevated to the point where you're screaming
bloody murder, obscenities. Okay,checkbox golf, punching inanimate objects that you

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know you shouldn't punch, like aball washer. None of that stuff's made
out of styrofoam. But at leastyou have an excuse. You're gonna shank
your drives the rest of the day, just like you've been shanking them all
damn day. But now you Yeah, I hurt my hand on the on
the thing there because I'm dumb,and then banging a stick into the ground

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or they don't do it in thevideo. I like to occasionally throw them
in bodies of water. It's notrational, but we already have this thing.
Come down to the club. Iknow that you're you're, you're you
know, you're screaming in your circleagainst the patriarchy and whatnot. Come down
to the golf club. Tell youwhat. Run into the pro shop,

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get you one of those cute littleoutfits, bring me a sandwich and a
beer on your way out, andI'll show you what I mean. Don't
talk too much on the cart,please. It is a it's a nice
day. I just want to bewith nature. Does that help, like
to throw that invite so that wecan because that's what you're doing. The

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only the only it's I thought oflike when I used to be a kid
and rage quit a video game,but then there's the stick part. So
I had to go with golf,the adult version of that, where you
rage quit every day and then you'relike, ah, I bet if I
go buy this other thing that Idon't need, will be good to go.
So there you go. Found thatcathartic this one. Oh, look

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at that. Look at that.That brought me relaxation to highlight the insanity.
All right, six sixteen, wegot Kamala Harris is Rambo or something
I don't know. I don't know, Michael Cohen on the stage yesterday.
And you know today's a thing.You think, well, it's Tuesday,

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that's true. I guess we getpaid on the fifteenth. It's the day
before payday. That is true aswell. But it's also one other thing.
It's an election day. So I'llexplain how we're handling that. Those
of you have listened to the show, you're in the know, but we'll
give you details next here on theCaCO Day Radio program, CaCO Day radio
program phone number eight eight eight ninethree four seven an eight seven four.

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Ah, well, you know whatthis would be a good lead in because
it is runoff election day, theamount of all right, let me ask
the question in the most trouble makingway possible. Any of you off,

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any of you, any sworn lawenforcement officer listening to the show, and
I suspect there's one or two ofyou, Why on God's green earth would
you allow yourself to be stood therein a photo op with Josh Stein or
Wral show up for their police Week. Well, we're gonna light our tower
blue. When they spend three hundredand sixty four other day, I guess

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we'll call it fifty one because they'redoing its national Police Week, fifty one
weeks of year, weeks out ofthe year, hating you and if it's
there, so oh I don't hateyou, well, then hating you with
their actions. And again this isnot middle of the road. People who

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I think can look at at thingsand have questions whether it is the the
the incident involving the dude from theNavy right where he went up to the
door with a gun in hand,and then people say, ah, they
said police but also, I don'tknow if you know this. Sometimes people

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rob you they say police and look, there's a lot going on there,
and those are all legitimate discussions.But wil every time there's something they literally
will platform activists. Remember we didthe story of the thirteen year old.
This is even this is not evenan officer involved shooting, but this was
the same activists, right, thisthirteen year old who was found shot to

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death in that apartment near North Hills, And you really quickly got the impression
that rather than just doing a straightup story, they had this very same
activist whose organization is predicated on whatwere clearly justified law enforcement shootings where a

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Raleigh police officer was presented with asituation. It's on video. It's clear
as hell. It's not even aquestion of oh do they know they were
a cop and they drew down onpolice. And when you platform those activists
for everything that you do, andthey come in and they're dishonest, Like
in the case of the girl,thirteen year old girl, while it didn't

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involve police, the target became schooland to some extent, police was school
resource officers. Well, she hadbeen suspended and it was involved in a
court case, so she couldn't goto school. So the natural thing was
she goes to a party at twoam at a known drug den flop house,
party place with gangsters, and sheends up dead. It's obviously the

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schools fault, and I'm sorry itrings hollow with your National Police Week garbage.
That ship is sailed, And Idon't know why any member of law
enforcement, in the same way thatI tell politicians that are not in favor,
why you would give them five secondsof your time is beyond me.

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Do you think Josh Stein or doyou think Roy Cooper comes on this show?
You think that happens a lot?Uh Ross? Would you go check
the master file? We have amaster guest list. Just if you could
just give me a quick count anestimate on the number of Roy Cooper appearances.
Let me check that out. Putit in the zero zero no,

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no, no, no, notthis year, not this no, I
mean like the the twelve thirteen years. Yeah, that's that's a twelve year
average. Zero, the twelve yearaverage, So it averaged less like every
one, less than ever. Neverhappened. It's never happened. So what
are you doing? Why am Iseeing Josh Stein, I'm gonna walk around

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with these officers. He's probably walkingup and asking him for directions. They
got a camera guy at the distance. Hey, I'm gonna go talk to
these cops and they're gonna be politebecause they kind of have to be.
And then we'll just say that,you know, they were like, oh
my gosh, we love you,or at least that's the impression that's out
there. By the way. I'mnot accusing him of doing that, although

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after the crap he pulled with JimO'Neil and that's slapped down and line them
and there's still lying about the rapekits. That's the whole thing. But
it's the stuff that baffles me.Why would you do it? Why go
anywhere near these people that fifty oneweeks out of your hate you, and
if it wasn't an election year,would probably still hate you, at least

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on the politician side. I don'tunderstand it, but I do understand that
today is a runoff election and we'regonna handle this as we normally do.
Very simple. You're listening to thesound of my voice. You're in a
runoff election. Today's the day,and let me tell you your buck will

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never go further. Judging by theearly voting numbers, it is far far
more valuable right now. If you'rein a runoff election, everybody you turn
out counts so much more because thenumbers are so little. So if you
are in a runoff election and wegot state wide stuff, we got congressional

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stuff, there's not a ton statewide, which is you know, partly to
do with that, but you gotstate auditor. On the Republican side,
you got obviously lieutenant governor. Speakingof Jim O'Neill and how Weatherman, I've
not look Jim O'Neill. Jim O'Neill. He's the one who got done dirty

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by Josh Josh. You boy thereSilver spoon Stein, and and I like
to see what O'Neill's doing with thekid who was punching teachers. That story
made me happy, Casey, Ifofficers don't interact with folks who already are
not giving them a fair shake,how will the relationship improve by those folks

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not being an elected office anymore?And the reaction of the public, that's
how In the same way that folksget thrown out of office. If people
think that the police are out ofcontrol, or at least you can convince
them of that, and we're not. We're not one hundred percent either way.

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Here on the show, we takea much more measured approach. Look
at the situation, that is policyor practice, or a situation justified.
Can have I looked at it throughmultiple lenses? Have I asked myself in
that situation where the standard for mostthings comes down to reasonableness? Have I

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looked at it through that lens?And how a human might react in that
situation, both by the officer aswell as the individual. Case in point,
somebody banging on your door in themiddle of the night. You don't
know what the hell's up. Theyyell police, but you can't visually verify
that. What do you do?I saw somebody write an article They said

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the only logical thing to do,and I feel that this is an exaggeration
because I've literally been presented with thissituation, so I'm not talking out my
behind here. He said. Whatyou gotta do is instead of protecting your
home or any of the rest,now, what you should do is run
out the back door. If it'scops, somebody will be there, because
that's what cops do, right coverthe back, and if you know your

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hands are visible and all that,they'll probably just take it down. If
it's not, maybe the bad guyhadn't thought of that. I don't that's
is that reasonable? I guess it'sone way to deal with it. But
I told you I had. Imoved into a brand spanky new condo apartment.

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Basically, a guy owned a building. The friend of mine is his
wife was at Dennis, so heroffice was downstairs. It was a downtown
building and that he had taken theupstairs the building and turned it into this
really nice apartment that's just kind ofstand alone. And that was because him
and his wife, you know,years down the road when they runted the

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building, the kids would be outof the house. They would retire.
They actually just retired, and thenthey were going to sell their house and
then they wanted to travel. Theyhad a house at at a lake this
is up in Minnesota that really nice, and then they were going to go
live up there and then they wouldkeep the house in town or the apartment.

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But there was this window and hesaid, hey, man, if
you want to rent it. Iwasn't going to rent it, but I
know you're looking for a play itwas amazing. The problem was Chris liked
to do some stuff himself. Hewas an engineer by trade, and they
jacked up some with the phone securitysystem, and so like one of the
first nights I'm in there, ithad an electric door lock too. See

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it kind of fancy with the techhe put in there. But the problem
was it was too fancy, andso I wake up in the middle of
the night. I hear and youhave to understand, it opens a ground
level door in the back and thenyou go straight upstairs and as you come
up the stairs, you're in theapartment, so the landing is in once

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the door is open. Middle ofthe night, I hear two guys coming
up those stairs. I can kindof see because have my bedroom's position out
into because my bedroom faces off theback of the building under the stairs.
And so they come in and Ihave already extracted myself from bed. I
am already holding something, and ratherthan yelling out because they're getting up close,

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I'm trying to hear what they're saying. And I can hear the moment
immediately when it realizes and dawns onthe officers that they're inside of a residence.
You know, you would think withthose stairs in that door that you're
entering an egress within a commercial building. But they figured out the top of
the stairs and I hear him yellout police ironically, ironically, this is

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what a crazy small world it is. The officer, one of the officers
was a friend of mine from Tailgate'sbrother, so I had met him once
or twice, and at that pointI literally told him, I said,
all right, I'm back here,and I yelled it's me to the guys.
That was helpful, and I understandthat that's not a unique situation,

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but that was a situation we hadto deal with. Were those officers in
the wrong. No, they gotan alarm call the commercial building that had
only recently been given its occupancy license, and that's what it was showing within
their equipment. Like, those scenariosout there exist and they're in this gray
area, right, What should Ihave done? What I have been within

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my right to come out and startyelling at him and perhaps a provoked reaction
before either of us could identify what'sgoing on. Maybe maybe there's you know,
so yeah, this is why Iget fired up over this stuff,
and I go on these long diatribes. But it just I don't understand it.
I don't understand embracing people who arenot genuinely concerned with hey, how

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can we do this the best way, but rather with using you as a
political pawn anytime it feels right,anytime you know that Chay or the lawyer
Crump shows up right sitting there andstanding on a stage with that dude who
hates police and also he loves moneybut hates police, but kind of loves

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police because that's the source of alot of his money. All right,
I off the soapbox there, that'smy annual diet tribe. All right.
So I mentioned it is a runoffday. Got a few races done,
a governor, auditor, some congressionalstuff. So if you are an elected
officially you want to be on theshow. This is how we do it.

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This is equality. This is equalopportunity. This is not equity the
I just want to be clear.This is equality meaning if you meet those
those those requirements, which are prettyeasy, and Ross can vet you,
which he knows how to do,then we'll give you some aretime. And
that's an open invitation to anyone who'son the ballot in these runoffs right left

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or otherwise that way, we don'thave to do paperwork and stuff AnyWho.
All right, so that's on thetable eight eight eight, nine three four
seven eight seventy four. No calland try to schedule a time. We
don't do that. When you're ready, call the show and we'll fit you
in just as soon as possible.All right. Few do other things going

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on other than just election and meon my annual police di had tribe.
Oh, let's see, you know, let me go a little uplifting.
I I don't want to sound likethat guy, but I'm gonna sound like
that guy. Most of the viralsenior pranks that I've seen nowadays suck,

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okay, and I understand that someof that's born out of this what schools
should become, which is not whollyin control obviously of students and or administrators.
But that being said, that isnot very funny. Back in my
day, we did good stuff.Man. You ever moved an entire petting
zoo onto a dude's yard in themiddle of the night, so the next

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morning in his community which is notgated but is still an hoa community,
his neighbors or stinky in the smallpetting zoo on his yard, on his
lawn the entire commute and he endsup getting a notice from his ho.
That's a prank. Actually ask yourself, and his wife helped. I don't

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know if you ever knew like dose. Now that's hilarious. Imagine you walked
out this morning and you don't liveon a farm and there are lamas goats.
What did we have? So?Oh, he had an ostri or
not an ostrochen em you. That'dbe amazing, especially if you're sticking your

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butt up tight community you live in. That's a good senior prank man.
Or some of it's just downright that'snot a prank. I call that the
YouTube effect this though, I lovethis students in Illinois going viral after for
the senior prank. They decided tohire a professional musician to follow their principle

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around. All right, it'd bekind of nice. Can you imagine how
much how much less stressful your daywould be if a soft sonata kind of
you know, just throughout the day, keep you going. A little background
music maybe uh maybe a little ifyou're into jazz, maybe get a little
soft saxophone following you around. That'dbe kind of nice, except they went

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in a slightly different direction. Here'swhat's amazing about that. Not that it
would be hard to pull off,but I stopped started thinking that'd be funny.
But then I realized that most ofthe people I know, if I
if I hired Ross, I don'tlike your attitude. I'm hiring a professional

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bagpiper to follow you around. Haha, I'll keep you. Would be the
greatest thing in the world. Seehow that doesn't work in this situation.
It would be like I was rowdypiper walk in everywhere, like with the
intro music and then and the bagpipersbehind him. I would I would,
you know, I don't like togo out or go places. No to
go places, Oh my god,I would enjoy I would go everywhere.

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Be like yes, wife's like Ineed something at Target. You're like,
I'm absolutely, in fact, giveme a few things. I'm in there
as long as possible. You're gonnago roddy piper. I see. I
kind of thought you could do somebrave heart stuff or you just mix it
up right, got your guy there. You're like, I'm gonna now,
I'm gonna paint all weird blue streakson me and scream about freedom. Yeah.
I don't know if if you knowthis, but I like watching old

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wrestling clips. I've noticed on Twittersome a big fan. But I enjoyed
just watching old rowdy rowdy Roddy Piper, you know, intro clips, not
even like the match, but justhim walking to the ring with the bagpipers.
It's what do you call it,like bagpipes or Irish auto tune.
It's it's the greatest. So,you know, one man's prank because another

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man's like, you shouldn't have right, that'd be amazing, maybe that's what.
Yeah, because I don't want todo it to prank. Would that
be the day you'd show up inperson to one of our meetings? That's
what I'm saying. I would goeverywhere, absolutely everywhere. It'd be the
greatest thing ever. Because I don'tknow how meetings work where you work,
but we can now you can callin, you get teams in, or
you can show up. And Rossand I tend to be the remote viewers

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because morning people. But no,you're there, man, No, And
even with the because we have ourTuesday meeting with Trevor after the show every
every week, so and it's likea recap of like you will you know,
goals and that kind of crap.Yeah, and we always we have
to FaceTime in right, and Ialways turn my camera off, and I
also tend to mute my mute myphone because I'm multitasking and I'm doing multiple

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things in here during the meeting,and you don't want to hear all that
crap. However, However, Iwould show up in person in this office
with the bagpipes playing, and itwould be one of the greatest moments of
my life. He'd be like,all right, so let's go ahead and
talk about what we're doing with theuh we're doing a software tanks for let's
talk about the transition to the newsound. I'm sorry, can you stop?

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And you're just walking through with thehead swagger? Yeah? Got a
kilt. That's amazing. Oh man, Well that's the thing. I have
a kilt right here. Of courseyou do, right. He doesn't have
a kilt in like in the atticsomewhere. He doesn't have a kilt in
the basement in a box. It'sin his go drawer. Next time I

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ordered bagpipes, like a decade ago, or like twelve thirteen, years ago,
as you do, the bagpipes camewith a kilt. Now, I
gave away the bagpipes as a gift, but I kept because I'm amazing how
I still have the kilt though,So I'm ready to go. I'm ready
to give it away as a gift. Or did you give it like when
I bought Lincoln drums a complete gift? Oh? Okay, all right,

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somebody who actually wanted it in theirlife, as Lincoln have any interest in
the bagpipes, do we know?I don't think so. Are you sure?
I think the bagpipes would probably annoyhim, so I would have to
I would have to do it around, you know, before and after school.
I thought, I'm just I'm guessingthe pitch because of the autism,

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when maybe or maybe he'd enjoy younever know, you know what, I
just figured out how you could endup on Joey Swoll's account, all right,
going going to the gym as youdo, and going through your workout,
and uh, and then's just bagpipes. Man. I I enjoyed that
guy's account until I realized that heopenly uses steroids. And I'm like,

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no, he's called Joey Swollen.I know, but like he's supposed to
be like a health fitness account,and I understand. Listen, I go
to the gym a lot, andyou have these people that will be in
the comments. They're like, yeah, but the brow us the steroids,
and people are like no, butjust still gonna put in the work.
And obviously you never go to thegym and you don't. Yeah dude,
but you you you do it.You can you can have the gains in

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half the time because you don't needSo it's completely different. I didn't mean
to start all that. I justmet the part where he's like, look
at this a hole at the gym. Those are valid, but like when
it comes to like health and fitness, I'm like, well, sorry,
dude, Like I'm not putting steroidsin my body. So it's we're on
a completely different page here. Whatif I put them every morning in your

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coffee without you noticing? I thinkwe would probably notice after a while.
But because that's the best part.There's no recovery day, so you can
just you know, jack yourself uplike like Ivan Drago and go to the
gym every single day and you don'thave to worry about that. Forty eight
hours of recovery between muscle groups.So yeah, okay, but you know,
also maybe you thought you got imbuedwith superpowers. I don't know.

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I just know that there's really nopenalty for doing that. You know.
I no, I don't like.I don't believe you, Casey, and
I can prove it now. Unfortunately, I think that there might be something,
some other reason why this person willface no penalties. And by the
way, it wasn't steroids, butthat there's a wild story out of Arizona
we got to talk about. Andyes, speaking of people roid raging,

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we'll get to that. Kamala Harrisaudio. So it is six fifty.
We'll take a break again. Eighteight eight nine three four seven eight seven
four. You're you're on the oldelection ballot today. You want a little
chat time with the audience. Thosepoliticians can call in. We'll get you
lined up, but right now we'lltake a break. Hang out, kc
O Day Radio program phone number eighteight eight nine three four seven eight seven

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four. So are you guys gonnamove? Are you guys gonna have to
downsize? Maybe live in a motel? I'm assuming Ross that were you among
those who got absolutely pilloried and bodiedby the Game Stop tweet yesterday. I
don't know if you saw any ofthis insanity, the meme stock guys,

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the game Stop, the AMC's rememberwhen that was all a buzz. Did
you have anybody write you and tellyou that you should be doing that when
all that was going on with AMCand whatnot? Absolutely not. Oh my
gosh. One of our listeners wasin on because I commented on a tweet

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and this dude wrote me diatribes ofemails. And it wasn't even nasty or
anything. It was just like,I don't know, dude, because like
it sounds, it sounds boiler roomybut not. And I understand the aspect
of, you know, stock pricemanipulation, and you don't have to convince
me that people in the upper echelonsof power in this country use it to

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their advantage each and every day.And I get that frustration. I don't
care who it is, whether it'syou know, all of these Let's see
the Senator this is very bipartisan,Nancy Pelosi and then the Senator as a
Tuberville from Alabama, both buying thisrandom, super random company that's up ninety

(31:59):
percent in about five seconds and itjust has to do with literal appearances before
committees that they're either on or participatoryin some way that stuff. Look,
I get it, But when adude named Roaring Kitty can tweet once yesterday
and crater people stop loss or stoppositions or excuse me, short positions,

(32:28):
things stop bust short positions on theseand then that is what four Chan and
Reddit turns into. It's kind ofamazing to watch about. When you talk
about the amount of risk that wasassociated there. I'm not gonna tell you
how to invest. You do yourthing. But if if one tweet from
something called Roaring Kitty, who isthe guy who was literally organizing the game

(32:53):
stop and then went dark for threeyears, all of a sudden causes the
whole thing to spike with his merepresence, that was a that was a
very volatile investment you found yourself in. I'm surprised you were still in that
position. How far did you shortthis thing that you were still exposed like

(33:15):
that. As of Monday, theprice of game Stop has risen ninety nine
percent over the last five days,and you're thinking, well, that's great.
If you own game Stop in fivedays, your investment's worth twice.
Yes, that is true, butyou have to understand that the meany part

(33:38):
of this was people shorting it.They were shorting it, and then you
had the up cycle where people werebuying, and then he got down into
it where people shorted and I thoughtthat they had moved their positions out,
but apparently they just got savage.But it's a little complex to get into
on the radio, and frankly,I'm probably not the one to be explaining

(33:58):
it to you because I'm not anan advisor, but that whole thing looks
suss as the kids saved, butthere was money there if you timed it
write. And now a bunch ofpeople who were sitting there on their haunches
had a due tweet and it justruined their portfolio. Man, that is
wild to me. All right,let's get into the Kamala Harris thing I

(34:21):
was attempting to explain. So she'sthere, and again if it was born
just by hey, you gotta workhard, right, and not a grievance,
but just the idea, Hey,you got to go in there and
and bust your butt. And Iunderstand that some of that is very quaint,
and especially in the way that modernday businesses interact with employees and have

(34:42):
this expectation of loyalty while providing noneof their own. I get that frustration,
and that is a paradigm shift.It is a paradigm shift on both
sides. And it's the new reality. That being said, this same advice
will still generally benefit you, evenwith with blockades you run into like nepotism
and you know, whatever it is. But the only people I see being

(35:08):
openly racist in things like hiring positionsor inclusion at university admissions in the modern
society is not cis white dudes,not publicly, at least they get accused
of. Well, they want theydidn't hire because the name sounded too urban,

(35:30):
or you know, whatever it is. Maybe or maybe they didn't hire
because you were a disaster compared tothe other folks there, and maybe they
decide that meritocracy is the way togo. That's not to say that people
who that's in a minority group couldn'tbe the recipient of a meritocracy, a
merit based hiring, But when they'renot, you can't screen that it.

(35:52):
You know, obviously it's racism.Well, simultaneously sitting there and going we're
going to have five graduations and youhave to pick an affinity group, and
then we'll have a leftovers one.Literally, it'll be presented almost as the
leftovers category. Oh you didn't fitin one of our five you know,
Black, Indigenous, Latino, LGBT, Oh you didn't fit into one of

(36:17):
those, just a leftover or we'rehiring, but we're only going to hire
you know, it's a This isall about diversity. Irish need not apply.
I mean they don't write it out. They write it out. They
just don't use Irish anymore. They'veexpanded that. So listening to that through

(36:39):
the lens of how Kamala Harris normallyoperates and say this, it makes it
that much more absurd. We haveto know that sometimes people will open the
door for you and leave it open. Sometimes they won't, and then you
need to kick that more down.The laugh is the creepiest part. You're

(37:00):
gonna talk about door kicking. Tryto sound a little tough while you're doing
it. That being said, thoseare not your only options. Yes,
sometimes people will I guess open thedoor for you, absolutely, and you
can. You can. You canassign that to that's how that they integrate

(37:22):
people within their business. You cansay they're only doing it because somebody is
their nephew. Whatever. I understandthat. And then the second then we
sometimes you got to kick the doordown sometimes, Yeah, but nine nine
percent of the time it will beneither of those things. And it is

(37:45):
how you respond in that ninety ninepercent where we see the fundamental change to
today, because most of the timepeople are not gonna hold the door open
for you. Little there'll be littlepockets of it, but you got to
put in the work. You gotto put in the work, and opportunities

(38:07):
may arise. Rostering your radio career, would you say that there was service
somebody there holding the door open foryou the whole way, or did you
have to get in there and bustyour butt and be unique and stand out.
Yeah, I mean it took alot of work. It's a lot
of work, a lot of perseverancetoo. Like I can't tell you how
many tapes they sent out when Iwas still on, like seventeen eighteen,

(38:29):
Like sending tapes out, tapes,Man, oh my god, be back.
Then you would send it all,you know, paper resume and you'd
put your your demo tape on acassette tape and I probably do hundreds,
hundreds nothing everywhere, and I don'tcare where it was. Remember I got
a call back from where was itsomewhere in Idaho once Boise. It was
super excited, first first callback Iever got. Oh, no, people

(38:50):
usually are before they go to Boiseanyway. But I was saying like,
at that age, it didn't matterwherever the job was, I was going
to move there right like, I'llbe there tomorrow. And that's what I
ended up doing. Yeah, gota call, you know, I remember
the call I came back from.I was working at the World of Science
before I cut my finger open andbled a lot of fossils, right,
And I remember I came home mymom. My mom was like, hey,
got a message on the on theon the you know, the answer

(39:10):
machine checked it out. It wasa guy in a triple white trailer in
war Head City, North Carolina.It doesn't really narrow it down. Who
was like, that's where the radiostation was out of and he was like,
hey, I got your demo tape. Let's talk. And I was
super excited. I literally was thereworking. I'd probably less than a month
later, drove down in my carhad five hundred bucks to my name,

(39:32):
lived on the floor of my apartment. That guy's name was j. T.
Bosch. He's now our boss inGreensboro. But I remember that call.
Dude to this a lunatic with thekiss tattoo, right, yes,
and the Boston tattoo. So Iliterally got that voicemail and I remember,
I remember listening to it and Istarted to cry. I was like,
oh my god, somebody's give mea chance. Yeah, but I can't

(39:54):
tell you how many demo tapes Isent out before I got that call back.
And then you got there and youwere just fat, happy and really
didn't try, right, but no, once again, a little bit more
effort. Okay, all right,sorry, I'm not like this is I'm
not accusing you just by yourself.I'm just that was it, right,
somebody opened the door for you,and then you were good to go.

(40:14):
There's a lot of rejection involved,right, There's a lot of rejection.
I wouldn't know, of course,right, yeah, yeah, no,
it's awful, absolutely, absolutely,especially when you consider when you're in that
competitive environment, you're going to runinto good people like obviously JT. You
guys are friends to this day,even though like now you're paid to be

(40:38):
but but still that's not a knockon him. But also there's they'll cut
your heart out people around you,especially as you move into larger markets.
People all get it. The peopleare not as friendly. Man, That's
why I hated Atlanta. Man couldn'tsay, my gosh, Atlanta is a
Minneapolis the same way, just cutyour too. I remember walking down the

(40:58):
hallway and being like every other radiostation had worked at it was like a
family environment, like you'd go toeach other's houses and you'd hang out and
you'd go out and have drinks andstuff. And this was like the first
time I went to it. Iwas like twenty four to twenty five working
in Atlanta, and it was likea huge deal. It was my lifeline,
my dream, right, I wantto work in a major market.
And I remember walking in the hallwaysand it was like there was competition between

(41:19):
daparts at the same radio station,which was super weird to me. Yes,
like super weird, Like we hada morning we had a morning show
on another station where they were sointernally competitive that it was it was ruining
the show. Yeah, super weird, and where it had been nice,
but then Basically what had happened isthey had they had like a strong lead,

(41:40):
but they didn't have like a definingguy, you know, like Seacrest
is defining guy, trying some othershows examples where it's ensemble shows, but
there's one dude. It was muchsofter there, and they were moving one
of the guy's day parts to kindof give him feature an afternoon he was,
and there there was this natural progressionand it completely unraveled everybody. Right,

(42:04):
they could have worked together, continuedto work together, but the internal
competition between three of the four wasso like I have to be the name
plate even though it's the show wasI'm not gonna tell you the name of
the show, but it didn't haveanybody's name in it. And that that
nastiness literally destroyed a couple of radiocareers. So everything's a balance and you

(42:29):
got to work all this stuff out. And yes, sometimes you kick doors
ninety nine percent of the time,though what you do is you figure out
a way to open that door onyour own, or you go around the
back, or you find a window. You start a relationship with somebody inside
the place. Well I was goingin the yes, the but well,
think about everything. You have ageneration of crybabies where they don't understand,

(42:52):
they can't accept no for an answer. Well, and then what they do
is they resort to door kicks.Yeah, they end up banging on the
door and banging in the house andhave tantrums. And that's consistently. We
have these videos that we play onthe show, right, examples of this
uh huh out there, and it'sjust like, all right, so this
thing isn't exactly how I want.Uh, we're gonna and then you know,

(43:14):
insert, well, we're gonna glueourselves to something. We're gonna we're
gonna scream like idiots, like acrazy like you've ever gotten a thing with
a kind of crazy x Right,everything was normal and now it's an hour
later and the neighbors lights are comingon because they're standing outside you're now locked
door, screaming that if they can'thave you, they'll do in the X
y Z. It's like, you'rea freaking lunatic. And I understand the

(43:37):
the the emotion there. But whenwe take that emotion, and not to
justify behavior like that, but whenwe take that emotion and we go,
you know what this is, thisis a good skill for getting ahead in
a business environment. You're a lunatic. What was the story? Was a
Google? Right? Google is agreat example, remember the good Remember the

(43:59):
last Google store that we did.I think you do. Google employees decided,
Hey, I'm gonna wear a masklike I'm robbing a stage coach,
like a little you know, bandanaover my face, and then I'm going
to stroll into this office surrounded bymanagement that has known me for years,

(44:21):
and I'm going to disrupt their abilityto accomplish anything and uh, you know,
make demands and even Google the wokestpiece of garbage companies out there.
I was doing something, searching somethingthe other day and they again manipulated.
All I had to do was goto another search engine. I'm telling you
the divide on that stuff, especiallyif it's negative finding old videos like I

(44:45):
remember that time Kamalis said this,it's difficult on Google and easy on others.
I'll let you do the math onwhy. But that's not good men,
that's not good mentor And it's sureas hell isn't funny in the way
that she laughed and people go,well, you're you're reading too deeply into

(45:08):
this. And on most cases Iwould agree because it's kind of a motivational
thing. Oh, I don't meanto actually kick the door in, but
unfortunately we're in this environment where whatshe says is the reality of things.
I didn't get the job I'm goingto need to do. You remember the
first time you heard a story ofa hiring person, you know, go,

(45:31):
hey, what's the craziest thing happeningon? Like a read a thread
or whatever, and they're like,so about once a month, somebody's parent
will call me and scream at me, and I'm like, I'm sorry,
what, yeah, yeah, yeah, So we're you know, I hire
people because I'm a hiring manager andthey applied and they were woefully underqualified or

(45:52):
or didn't have experience or whatever itwas, even though some of those experience
and education required, like you guysare out of your day mind in corporate
America. But if you can findthe people whatever, I don't know that
you're getting the best in the brightestbut that would be the extent of my
analysis. But imagine you just wentthrough and hired somebody, you know,
which is basically a bunch of twentysomething's mid twenties, maybe even late twenties,

(46:15):
somebody didn't get the gig, theirmother calls screaming at you. That's
where we are now, and that'sa version of kick the door down.
That is dooming you. Because nowif I'm not hiring manager, I'm telling
all the other hiring managers over golf, hey, wait to hear what this
lunatics mom did. Think about thatand understand why this is horrible advice,

(46:37):
and we'll be back. I'll saythis in the in the same way where
we all have to get into abig debate. Right, Elon Musk bought
Twitter, so I'm gonna spend thenext six months of my life defining everything
that I do through the lens ofhating him. And Twitter's done right,
and it's like, all right,you made your prediction, let's watch it
play out. And then well itwasn't. But I don't think it's just

(46:59):
a Twitter problem. I have toadmit I have. I had not spend
any significant amount of time on Facebookand quite some time. And it's because
here's what Facebook is still good for. It is like it's like an old
phone. Chances are you have connectionsto people that you may not have connections

(47:23):
to anywhere else, and you canstill accomplish that communication on Facebook just due
to the longevity of it, butas a source of news and information every
other damn thing that's on there,And people go, well, this is
the algorithm. I we're beyond that, because the algorithm may be the algorithm.
But when you incorporate AI, whichI don't know if you've seen the

(47:45):
chat GTP version for promotional videos,the tutor the kid who was getting tutored.
Now, whether this stuff works asclearly as it works in the videos
is only a matter of time.It's almost indiscernible. I'll tell you what
was wild is the real time translation. I mean that's like the whole translation

(48:09):
apps are in even the best onesare incredibly not good in a lot of
circumstances. As somebody who has beenworking on developing another language. Now for
some you know, some time,it's not a fast process. For me,

(48:30):
they say, the older you get, the harder it is. But
one of the worst things, notthe worst things. It is helpful.
But one of the things that Istruggle with is and people have learned another
language will tell you about this humpis how just because something says that it

(48:52):
translates to the other thing doesn't meanthat it does. And that's before you
get into the call the cultural nuances. Because I don't even know how to
how to explain this. It'll startto dawn on you and any of you
who are bilingual, you know,And I again, I'm just I'm I'm
not very good, but I'm atthe point where I'm recognizing this and you

(49:13):
don't recognize it. I think alot of people look at the Spanish language
and when it translates stuff, thewords don't seem to be in the right
order, like ross if you haveif you're sick and your mom made you
soup, what kind of soup wouldit be? Not chicken noodle soup?
Chicken noodle soup, all right?Or chicken you know, you get some

(49:36):
sort of chicken soup, chicken brothwhatever like that. Okay, So the
order in which we put those wordschicken soup, you wouldn't say that in
Spanish, very simple. You'd saysoap with the poiloil, which is,
by the way, a word.I still butcher because the two l's kill
me. But you know, andso when you direct translate it, yeah,
not only do you have the orderwrong, but it's not wrong because

(49:57):
that's just how it works in adifferent language. But there's also so the
nuances there. I messed up.I messed up one time in front of
a bartender at a beach bar inin uh In, Costa Rica when I
was This was years ago, Iwas staying at this resort and and I

(50:19):
thought I was so smart learning thename of h there's two big screwups of
learning the name of a raccoon,which it's just because it's like, it's
not you know, I'm just learningvery simple words. And I remembered the
name from like the Rosetta Stone andlike ah, and I in my head

(50:43):
I knew what it was, butI said a slightly different word, which
meant something god awful. And Igot to tell you, it's like that,
you know, it's like the recordskip scene in a movie. Man,
Like everything just crashed to a halt. And I point this out because

(51:06):
the real time translation that they weredoing in that debt was amazing. And
it's really hard. Anyone who's traveledhas traveled with like, whether it's Google
Translator or others, you realize thatstuff ain't full of proof, and it
requires you to critically think about whatit is the person's intending to say to
you. The the demo that Isaw for Spanish and then the one I

(51:29):
saw for Italian, where the twothat I saw they were really good,
and you get a couple of peoplewith earpieces in they could have a relatively
normal conversation without all the big gaps. That's what is going to be social
media in a lot of cases,and I think Facebook is the first victim
of that. I was so creepedout scrolling that timeline and I realized that

(51:58):
you know a lot of people thatI you know on there have either had
their accounts compromised or been duped,but it doesn't matter. Every other damn
thing. There was engagement farming,but one hundred percent emotionally targeted and emotionally
targeted at elderly people, which thenin many cases if it's not just about

(52:20):
the engagement and monetizing it, butalso it's the part where they can later
scam you because you'll take a friendrequest and it's the stuff's absurd, but
also it bypasses people's normal filter becausethey don't understand how they're being taken advantage
of or potentially taken advantage of.And you know, a lot of it's
just kids who look a little sickand they're like, you know, Billy's

(52:43):
got cancer. He could really usesome some likes or some whatever it is,
or little numbers tests, you know, spend it. Click this clock
and it will tell you how manyyears you have to do whatever. And
then as soon as you click it, in the same way that you're launching
an ex file program, it allowsthe scammers to either financially abuse you get

(53:05):
just get further engagement, or manipulatethen what you're feeding people, because what
happens is when you click that,you also are reposting it. Even though
you're not hitting the repost, it'sdoing that and the images are disturbing.
I have a question. I'm gonnaross. I'm gonna send you an image
I saw yesterday that's going to rossHow How how do people look at that?

(53:37):
And and I understand why. That'sa kid on the brink of death
but also really excited for her birthday. She's got a cake. So it's
a it's a little kid in abathing suit floating in the ocean. Fawn
in the ocean, faces slightly outof the water like an oxygen mask attached

(53:57):
to a cake and yes, today'smy birthday. Please, Like, so,
what is the oxygen mask is goingto the cake? It's obviously it's
AI, But I mean maybe you'relike an older like a super old boomer,
and you're scrolling through and you're like, oh my god, there's this
sick child. Oh horrible, right, Yeah, their parents brought into the

(54:20):
beach because she's obviously dying. Shehooks up to the oxygen mask and she
just wants to celebrate her day onthe beach and oh my god, I'm
going to click through this and andif you interact with that, and and
that's everywhere. Now Twitter's got itsown thing. Apparently there's a lot of
stuff in people's bio you should checkout, but mostly it's boobs because that's
all you hear about now is ayou know, Twitter is nothing, her

(54:43):
ex is nothing but ads. NowDylon Musk is ruined it. Well,
the same thing. Yesterday. Iwent on to Facebook because I've slowly weaned
myself off Facebook over the years becauseI was like, man, I'm spending
way too much time on social media. It's not healthy. So yesterday I
was actually scrolling and I'm like everyother thing is an ad. It's one
of these AI posts. It's agroup I never joined. It's it's garbage
now, it's not usable. Yeah, And I hate to say that because

(55:06):
I, you know, I thoughtFacebook, for the most part, was
an easy way and it was agood engagement way. Because I don't I
don't just see engagement as we haveto monetize it. That's management's job to
probably be part of the meeting today. But I enjoy it, and I
think it breeds a health I thinkit breeds for a healthy show. There's
stuff that I see off the airthat I'm like, oh my gosh,

(55:29):
let's uh this is this is reallycool. Somebody should see it. I
had so much fun with the amDo you see the Amtrak post yesterday?
That was so much fun mocking thenbecause I got to get what's our nickname
for that cop who slept with alltheir part all the people she work with.
I can't remember the affectionate name weused, but anyway, you know,
I was able to literally bleed thatstory in with the others. All

(55:54):
right, So all right, sowhat do we got lined up here?
Ross just getting everything? So wehave one of the state auditor candidates and
then we have Brad not for okay, all right, who was first?
Dave? All Right, So here'swhat we're gonna do, guys, I'm
gonna we're gonna do weather. Whenhe hit a break, we'll come back,

(56:15):
we'll chat with one of the stateauditor candidates, and then we'll have
a congressional discussion with Brad not althoughhe's that things have changed in that district,
but we'll chat with him again.Those will be coming up here in
just a few minutes. But firstyour weather with is it mister stagic?
Today? Back in our sir?Back at it? Hey, how you

(56:36):
doing? What were you doing yesterday? Huh? It was a long trip
to Oxford. My niece graduated OldMiss and it was kind of basically,
you're in North Carolina and not NorthCarolina, wait in England watching Pelosi debate
the guy from Mumford and sons.No, I was not, so it

(56:59):
was just out is just kind oflike, you know what, I just
don't want to do it. Honestly, I was just five and a half
each way, and you're there fora day and you come back the day
after and so yeah, there's along trip, but how are you,
hey, relative I might hear this. I hated coming to your thing anyway.
I don't know. It's good man. Let's uh, you know,
let's keep things rolling in a positiveweather environment. Maybe a little more golf

(57:21):
the weather people appreciate. So yeah, the best day is probably not election
day, run off election day,so people got to go to the polls
today when they're wet, that kindof stuff. Yeah, a little wet
Fayetteville to Hickory right now. Showersare already lined up heading north, so
here shortly tryad triangle, gonna getthis batch of showers, a little bit
more spotty after that comes through,and then more into the afternoon, so

(57:44):
you know, you get this probablymore persistent batch here, some heavier showers
that comes through this morning, andthen more widely scattered this afternoon. Certainly
not going to be raining every hourof the day, a lot of clouds
around, limited sunshine. High's closeto seventy. Some showers and thunder showers
tonight Tomorrow will do it in theafternoon, mainly a chance of showers in
the morning, but not like we'regoing to see this morning. And then

(58:06):
Thursday slight chance of showers. ThursdayFriday actually pretty decent as we'll get back
close to eighty on either side ofeighty, depending where you are, so
upper seventies to low eighties. Anda quick shot at the weekend, mild
to getting warmer, and we're probablyback to some showers, thunder showers,
and again emphasizing, I'm probably goingto see more biased toward the afternoon,

(58:28):
so it really sounds like summertime.They were almost there as we head toured
the middle of the month. Rainchances each day here except for Friday Thursday,
small chance, the best chances surroundingthat not only today and tomorrow,
but also into the weekend. Okay, all right, very good, thank
you sir, and we'll talk inan hour. There you go. Race
staging, all right, we'll talkto Dave and Brad coming up in the

(58:52):
next few minutes, but first tobreak KCO Day Radio program KCO Day Radio
program. All right, we're gonnabe chatting with progressional candidate Brad Natt.
Although his runoff race obviously there havebeen some changes since we last spoke,
but you know, still matters,and also statewide big runoff for the auditor

(59:13):
and Lieutenant governor. Let's we'll getinto those calls now and We'll start with
one of the auditor candidates day.Is it Bullock or Bullock? I'm sure
I always butcher it. Which oneis it? Sir? Good morning,
Casey, It's Dave Bullick Bullock.All right, and let me just let
me just give a little background,because I no offense, sir. It's
not auditor is not the sexy oneunless want to use driving a car on

(59:36):
top of other cars, which,by the way, have you ever done
that? You're a monster truck thecar while possibly being inebriated. Or two
things. One, it's not sexy, so I'm obviously qualified for the job.
And number two, I have neverpopped my car up on top of
another car and still to this daycan't figure out how that one happens.

(59:57):
Well, you don't do it withyour car, you do it with this
eight cars. So yeah, andlet's not forget what the audits in the
backseat. Yeah yeah, yeah.Well, by the way, you scare
me, sir, because the firstthing I ever saw was you auditing somebody's
refrigerator. I guess maybe that wasyour own, and that's like looking at
my search results, So stay away. But let's I want to get into
the auditor thing real quick with you. Yeah, you, Uh, there

(01:00:21):
is definitively different backgrounds. Uh,you're up against the individual who did get
more votes than you the first timearound, But we shall have a runof
because they didn't meet the threshold.Uh they currently I don't know. Do
they still work for one of therepresentatives. Is it Psyke's office or he
was working for Yeah, my planof works for the General Assembly General Assembly?

(01:00:44):
Okay, and you, I,this is what an interesting time for
you. You're on the UNC Boardof Trustees, aren't you. I am,
I have been to the last almostfive years now. Case okay,
But at the end of the day, yeah, and I'm sure I'll let
you go right into it and tellus. But at the end of the
day, I see people trying tobreak down big differences, and I think

(01:01:07):
there's a lot of real shared experienceand ideas. So maybe this isn't the
nastiest of race. But I wantyou to draws that definitive line there why
you think you're the guy, Soplease fire Wasser. Yeah, I appreciate
it, and you're right, thishasn't been a nasty race. My opponent
and I have very similar values,very similar commitments. To doing what's right

(01:01:31):
for the tax payer. The difference, I believe is my experience. I've
raised a family, I've got twokids that are off the family pay roll.
I've signed the phone of a paycheckas well as the back of a
paycheck. I do have a master'sdegree in business administration. I've started a
business, run it, sold it. So I have a lot of real

(01:01:51):
world private sector experience that I wouldbring to the State Auditor's office and in
my role at Chapel Hill, whichis kind of odd, right for conservative
to be at Tripol Hill. No, I think I was so good.
I think it's so good right nowwe need more of it and you need
to make that guy the chancellor forgood. Anyway, I'm sorry, Well
that question and a lot of that, A lot of what Chancellor Roberts was

(01:02:14):
able to do on April thirtieth bymatching down, as most of your listeners
are aware of, the Palestinian flagand putting back up that American flag.
You know, we spent the lastfour and a half years working to bring
balance at the university. We startedwith budget reform where we uncovered and fixed
one hundred million dollar structural death sothat by the way the former elected state

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auditor never found in her audits,but we did and fixed it at the
board level. I was one thatstood up. Yeah, I was one
that stood up and said, noteto Nicole Hannah Jones in the sixteen nineteen
project, because I don't believe thata New York Times newspaper reporter should at
any time have any say in whatour nation's sistory is. You got called

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a clan member for that two sir, and he didn't take the bait that
I could find, right, Ididn't because that's you know, I stood
up for what I believe was wasthe right thing to do for North Carolinians.
And you know, just just yesterdayat a thirty in the morning,
I still lead the university's Budget,Finance and Infrastructure Committee, and we announced

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that we're redirecting two point three milliondollars in readily identifiable DEI funds to public
safety. Also, because you know, Casey, that's the right thing to
do. DEI is a divisive constructthat is meant to instill a cultural ideology

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that people may may not may notprofess to. But if you don't follow
along with the DEI rhetoric, you'resomehow considered an outsider and not worthy,
and that's just not what the UnitedStates and North Carolina is about. So
I'm very comfortable standing up against thewell, Dan, I'm sorry, I'm

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gonna hit. I've got about thirtyseconds, so just real succinctly, please,
sir well, I appreciate it.Go vote today. Look, North
Carolina's the greatest state and the greatestcountry on the planet. Exercise your right
to vote. I think I'm agood candidate, the right candidate, Dave
Bullock for State Auditor. And bythe way, Casey, Happy barbecue day,

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Phil. This hour is going tobe a busy, busy, busy
one. It is a runoff dayhere in North Carolina. And while you
know, there are state wide races. So if you're listening to me and
you can vote in North Carolina,you have a responsibility or at least an
opportunity however you want to see it. I don't care, but it will.
I say this a lot when wehave those off your elections, so

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they can scam city council positioning inmany of our cities. But it if
you look at early voting and expectto turn out for something like this,
your vote will never go further,which is unlike your grocery dollar right now.
So today's the day you could bethe pain in the ass that makes
somebody lose by one. Wouldn't thatbe a good feel? Or your guy

(01:05:10):
win by one, depending on yourgeneral outlook on stuff, So get out
there and do it. A coupleof state offices. We did have this
congressional runoff with brad Not and missDaughtry, and she has now left the
race, thrown her sort behind,thrown her support behind brad Not and Bradnat
joins us. Now, thanks forhanging on, sir, busy morning,

(01:05:31):
how you doing. Hey, goodto be with you. Thank you so
much. Let me let me getthis out of the way. So like
because immediately when something like that happens, especially and I'll say it like this,
you guys have had an interesting runa race, especially when listening to
some of the advertising, which isliterally caused people write me about the ads

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like why is this thing based onthe Trump endorsement? So to see it
all imediately like resolved in a fewdays after we last chatted, you know,
people are like, ah, youknow that's like when the you know,
they sent the consigli area to gotalk to that record producer like you,
You and somebody got her in aroom and you know stuff, and
people assigned a lot of stuff andI don't know, maybe you gotta I

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don't know, maybe you got abook of something and you're threatening to release
it. But I'll give you anopportunity because people love conspiracies. How did
that all play out? Yeah,there's no conspiracy. There's nothing juicy about
it, Casey. The politics isall about timing. And there were two
different campaigns in this runoff, verydistinct. My opponent was self funded and

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we were majority. We had toraise We put in some money our own,
but we had to raise most ofour money. And so when we
got into the runoff, their strategywas very clear and it was make sure
we don't get off the grounds.So they just barraged us with all kinds
of negative ads. They had apack, they had their campaign. There
were two arms that were coming atus, and you were right, and

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those ads were everywhere. They saturatedevery media, hy every arm they could,
and some of those ads were Iwould say deceiving less than fully honest.
We've already discussed that on previous shows, but unfortunately for them, we

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were able to get off the groundand our campaign was very methodical. We
were very focused with our message.We didn't really respond to all of the
negative attacks because we couldn't do that. There were just too many of them.
But our message was very persistent andit resonated, and slowly but surely,
we got local law enforcement support,We got local representatives who endorsed us,

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We got a great boost from grassrootsmovements and organizations around the district.
We were very aggressive and going tomeet with people face to face, whether
it's county gas groups or civics groups, rhetory clubs, all the above.
And then we started to get someof the higher profile folks, you know,
Dan Bishop, Dan Forrest, Tedbudd and others got on our on

(01:08:12):
our train, and then when PresidentTrump got on, it was just,
you know, his his endorsement waslike rocket fuel. And the last month
of this runoff, our message justcaught in a really big way, and
my opponent had sort of fired everythingshe could and despite that effort, our
campaign caught and our momentum surged,and that's what prompted her to get out

(01:08:35):
of the race. It was itwas an unexpected phone call, but you
know, we had felt that movementon the ground and had felt the responses
from people, and our events werebetter attended and so on and so forth,
So very unexpected. We're very surprised, but we're grateful at the same
time. You know, here's theI hate when primary races have become like

(01:08:57):
that pressor as shamed to pick onyou guys. But you know, some
politician who just came out had likethirty mistresses and then his wife standing there
at the presser with him, andit's just like, it feels so awkward.
So when we hear all of thoseads and then like two days later,
you're like, I endorsed this personand that we were all just hateful
towards each other. Like don't youthink that adds to a just a little

(01:09:20):
bit of the like the fakery inpolitics as people perceive it. I think
people have a cynical view about thatstuff, and I don't know that it's
unfortunate. There is a lot ofcynicism around political races and politicians and so
forth. And you know, there'sa very big difference between a documented,
factual negative ad and a sort ofanecdotal high problele know, hyperbole and negative

(01:09:45):
ads and yeah, but you're askingpeople to parse that. I'm sorry,
just but you're asking people to parseit who have enough going on in their
day that they can't always hate thatassertion. So if it sounds negative and
they're like, why are two Gooppeople screaming at each other? I think
it puts people all it does.It does. There's no there's no other
way around it. And you know, like I said, we were we

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were caught between a rock and thehard places. We had so many negative
ads, whether it was male,radio, TV, digital, et cetera,
and uh, you know, wecouldn't really respond to all of it.
And we generated a lot of alot of positive ads, a lot
of you know, substance in ourin our in our outreach and uh the

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good news is and our polling toyour point, Casey, a lot of
those negative ads ended up blowing backon my opponent, her, her,
the the the utility of those ads. It failed. Uh, it was
just so voluminous that people kind ofstart to distrust. And you know,
we we did our own share ofnegative ads. We hit we hit her

(01:10:47):
for her donations and so forth,just kind of calling into to question her
credibility. But in a perfect world, we could be all positive all the
time, and that's unfortunately not theworld that we're in right now. And
I don't know, I don't knowthe expected spend. How do you deal
with it as as a person whoif you who has basically been told not
maybe you personally, but when youread the stories that this was it,

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you're now the congressman and it's onlya matter of waiting. How do you
how do you approach that? Becauseyou have an opponent was if Frank Pierce
is his name is? He ownsa couple of landscape companies. He's run
I think for city council, actuallythe district next to me. Well,
let me let me, let me, let me let me peel that back.
We are not taking that posture atall right now. Kelly Daughtry is
still on the ballot. We aretaking nothing for granted. We took a

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poll a short while ago, Casey, and we saw that there was or
we saw a pole rather that thatup to forty five percent of the folks
in the district, just to youknow, within two weeks did not realize
that Kelly Daughtry had gotten out ofthe race, so you get outside the
Johnson and Wait County media markets andyou know a lot of people still assume

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she's in and her name is stillon the ballot. So we are got
to finish this race strong. Ifyou are a supporter, if you're a
voter in the thirteenth district, pleaseget out and vote. There are two
other very important races on the ballot. To please get out and vote,
even though the weather's bad and youmay have other stuff to do, get
in line, go vote. Ifwe are able to finish finish this race

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as we hope to and come outto the victor, we're going to have
the same posture. We want toget out and meet with as many people
as we can Democrat, Independent,Republican. And you know our campaign is
a very it's a very simple messageabout making government work for all people.
And right now, no one feelsthat. No one feels that that's happening,

(01:12:39):
and regardless of affiliation or leaning inthis district, we want to get
out and meet you face to face. I know you had his endorsements,
so you might have a little biashere, but I really just last question
put on your prosecutor had how farare you following the storm of this this
trial in New York. I'm nota lawyers or you're a lawyer. You're

(01:13:00):
a prosecutor. For God's sakes.I understand the politics to it, but
procedurally, I've watched a law alot of law and order, which I'm
sure you love to hear. Idon't understand. I don't understand stuff that
is happening in there, that happensoutside of Judge Judy's courtroom. It's fascinating
to me. So even if theif the fix is in, this has

(01:13:24):
to be reversible for a thousand reasons. Yeah, you know, it's one
of the high honors of my careerwas being able to go before a jury
and say I represent the United States. And uh I was always blessed to
have worked before solid judges who protectedthe courtroom and protected cases that were brought
against people. And what we're seeingin New York is really achieving a lot

(01:13:47):
of distrust in the judicial system.That's a grave, grave problem. And
even folks like you know uh nN commentators was taught where they were talking
over the weekend casey they said,but for this man's last name of Trump,
this case would never have been broughtYe said that, Yeah, that's
crazy. That's exactly right. Andthat's that's a that is a grave disservice

(01:14:11):
to the country and to what shouldbe an apolitical system. And it's without
any questions when you have to relyon someone like mister Cohen to make the
case for you, who has beenessentially imprisoned for his dishonesty and his dishonest
conduct before Congress, before dirs,before other courts, et cetera. This

(01:14:32):
is just this is just unbelievable,the contortions that are going through this legal
system, merging state crimes and federalcrimes and trying to thread needle after after
Neil just to get Donald Trump.It's a tremendous disservice to the country,
to the people of New York andand just the effects of this will be
feeling for a long long time unfortunately. All right, Well, you know

(01:14:55):
what, don't exaggerate. Remember heonly recorded one client secretly once ever,
and it was trying, and heonly did it to help him. So
everything's fine, everything's thank you,Dory. All right, So and then
you answer my last question earlier.If your opponent's out, why show up
to the polls, and the answeris because she's still on the ballot,
and just you know people should knowthat is they head out. Brad Not

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thirteen Congressional District. Appreciate your timethis morning. Thank you so much.
Good to be with you. Absolutelyall right, there you go. So
yeah, we're just uh, well, if I can find the right thing
to put on hold, there wego. All right, well let me
we got oh, we got allright, so we got Jack Clark,
who is the other state auditor runoffguy. We'll be chatting with Jack after
the bottom of the hour. First, Mark Walker, who's not technically running

(01:15:42):
for anything but kind of because heis actually part of the Trump campaign.
Now and we haven't chatted in awhile, sir, are you too good
for us? What's going on?Are you just really busy? I really
am for you now with this newferish So it's just no, no,
no, no, of course not. He's eating caviar. He's eating caviar.
Run video right now. He's eatingcaviars. So no, hardly.

(01:16:06):
Now, we've been busy traveling.Yeah, I guess you know, as
the faith outreach director for the RNC, I guess Trump twenty twenty four but
yeah, trying to organize a lotof our faith out groups, ministries and
nonprofits, etc. So trying toget him all pull in the same direction
and realize the level or the depthof evil that we're battling right now.

(01:16:28):
And I think once people see that, I think it motivates them to get
engaged. Yeah, all right,So your your focus is on the faith
side of things. I think sinceTrump said what was it two Corinthians?
There has you know, people haveleaned into that part of his personality.
I don't. I don't do Ithink Trump is a holy roller. No,

(01:16:50):
but talk to me, even withall the stuff that people may criticize
from a character standpoint, which iseasy to do under a microscope, what
faith really and how that instructs Trump, even if it's through his people around
him, like you, how doesthat play in Well, Well, let's
I was talking with him the otherday and when we were talking about this

(01:17:11):
position and in the future and workingwith him on some different and some different
arenas. But if what you seeis what you get, he's the same
person in a private conversation where wewere meeting with him in the oval office
or on the phone, and youknow, he's a New York real estate
playboy tycoon that takes a different approach. Yet at the same time, I
think people understand what's at stake andwhy you need a warrior in the mindset.

(01:17:38):
If you want to bowl this down, it comes down very simple.
You have one administration that simply isabout undermining your faith and family, and
you have one administration, the Trumpadministration, would be to protect your faith
and your family. And some ofthese pastors and ministers that say, you
know what, we're above this,we don't get involved. But at the

(01:17:59):
same time they'll say, yeah,we're battling evil, And I will ask
the question, if you're not onthe front lines of these faith groups,
and if you're willing to agree thatwe're battling evil, who the heck do
you expect to fight this battle?And that's what we're trying to communicate across.
Yes, Trump can be brash,is language, We get all that,
But right now you have a binarychoice. You've got somebody that is

(01:18:21):
completely destroying our country or somebody thatwill go out to protect and defend our
country. I think that I thinka lot of people's dividing line is all
right, are they the same faithas me, or do they they practice
in the same way or do theylet me? And I feel it's really
bad that we're down to the Hey, do they actually let me practice my

(01:18:41):
faith? But hey, that's wherewe are. And ironically that was kind
of the whole founding of the country, one of the big reasons there.
So let's talk about how does howdoes he was in like nine different places,
not even giving speeches the other day, like bopping from Wildwood to Florida
to New York to all the usof it. A president running for office?

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Is their schedule sucks? Anyway?Is even more so, how's that
impacted? Because I saw up inNew Jersey it doesn't look like it's putting
a stop in it in any way, shape or form. Our interior analytics
show that's actually helping us because thepeople see the intentionality of it. You
saw the turnout in Wildwood here overthe weekend. When you look at President

(01:19:27):
Trump, he is the working classpresident. There's a loyalty in a bond.
There's nothing that the press, mediaor in this case, the defense
or the prosecution. I should saythat, however they come after him,
there's nothing that they're going to dothat breaks that bomb between President Trump and
the working class, which is aboutforty five percent the Republican base. So

(01:19:48):
all all he needs to do iskeep moving this needle forward a little bit
with some people out there in themiddle. And I think what you've seen
in the swing states, my focusis primarily said and swinging states, but
you're seeing this needle starting to movewith people realizing what's at stake in November,
and I think that President Trump,I'll tell you this, I think

(01:20:10):
he's gonna win by North Carolina twiceas much as what he wanted by last
time. I think four plus points, and I think that's going to help
some of the Council of State membersas well. Is that why he's not
coming down and doing the GOP conventionas he's done in the two previous presidential
cycles. Some people are wondering ifhe feels a little too sure of the

(01:20:30):
state. I got about a minutego ahead. No, not at all,
but we've got to focus on otherplaces Nevada, Georgia, Arizona,
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan as well. So that's why you're seeing him more
and more, and I think you'llsee him back. But he's been very
good to us at the convention,coming to the last two times that we've

(01:20:51):
had it here, I guess specificallyeven in Greensboro. But you'll see him
back. But we've got to makesure that we're keeping him in the right
places with his team, that he'sout there to get this word, just
like he was in New Jersey,a place where he lost by fourteen four
years ago. But it's now allthe way down to only a six point
lead for Biden. We're seeing thiskind of progress in many different places.

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Yeah, the Nevada numbers are crazyfrom last time around. All Right,
Mark, I know you're busy,busy, busy. We'd love to hear
tales from the road man, Soyou know, try to find the time
and we'll make it work because there'sa whole bunch we could talk about for
sure. Okay, look forward toit, Casey, take care of right.
Yeah, there you go, MarkWalker, from a congressman candidate and
now a guy in charge of sevenstates for the Trump campaign. All Right,

(01:21:38):
more candidates. We've got hol Weatherman, We've got Clark, we got
all sorts of folks coming up.Cacoday Radio program on the GOP Primary.
I never know what we're gonna get, I should say runoff. I never
know what we're going to get ofthe I guess five candidates because we got
two more holding, we will havespoke with four of them. So that's

(01:21:59):
kind of amazing. Who we meant, Oh, Jim O'Neill, that's who
we're missing. So anyway, let'sgo ahead and dive into this. And
Jack Clark is the other side ofthat auditor's ticket. We talked to his
opponent earlier, and I don't know, did you hear the interview? Mister
Clark? How you doing this morning? Good? How are you? Can
you hear me? Yeah? Yeah, did you hear my interview with your

(01:22:20):
opponent earlier? Be good if youdid, because then I did not hear
it, but I got several textsthing he was on and from you call
in Here's what I like about yourrace? Yeah? Yeah, well here's
what I like about your guys' race. And maybe it's just because it's a
respite. I haven't heard you guysbe horrible to each other, so I

(01:22:42):
don't know that makes me feel okay. But also I think that there are
differences your background, his background,different things that you hope to accomplish.
So let's start with those differences.Why are you the better auditor pick for
GOP voters. So my career isin auditing. I have a CPA,
and I spent years in the privatesector as an auditor. I can't overstate

(01:23:04):
how important it is to have thattraining and background to run the audit department.
You know, It's it's one thingto lead a bunch of lawyers to
do law stuff, but it's anentirely thing, an entirely different thing,
to lead a bunch of auditors toperform audits. So I think that that's
really what I've been anchoring my mycampaign on. And the second is that

(01:23:29):
I'm not campaigning on who I'm goingto go after. We saw a DA
in New York campaign on who they'regoing after, and we all know how
that's turning out. I'm trying toI would rather look, I do my
entire campaign, you know, myentire career. I'm trying to do the
right thing. I don't care ifthings are politically expedient for me. I'm

(01:23:54):
going to do what's right. Youknow, I was a Republican in Washington,
d C. I was in collegeRepublicans at Duke universe. The You
know, I've been a republic inmy whole life and it wasn't to my
benefit at all in these heavily democraticareas. So you can trust me as
auditor. Well, and let meask you this, because I just got

(01:24:15):
this email, and I suppose thisis the place we should start. Other
than monster trucking things with your statevehicle? What does the auditor do?
All? Right? By the way, you've never done that, right,
You never got hammered and drove upon somebody's car, have you? Okay?
Good, that's a very low ude. Don't make many campaigns. Yeah,
I don't make many campaign promises.One is to keep all four wheel
off on the ground. That isone campaign promise. Well, hey,

(01:24:36):
no, if it's your own timevehicle, right, you're off roading.
That's that's between you and God.But what does the state auditor do?
Man? A state auditor goes intoanywhere that receives taxpayer money and make sure
that money is being used as intended. So one thing the auditor doesn't do
is decide on policy or allocate themoney. But once the money is allocated

(01:24:58):
and the make sure those policies arebeing followed. Someone just has to come
in and check when the General Assemblyor the local governments allocate money to different
areas, so someone has to checkto make sure it's actually going there.
And that's really the key role ofthe author. You you obviously your background,
not obviously your opponent's background. Isyou know, you guys are all

(01:25:21):
intertwined in the in the sausage factoryas far as the sausage getting made.
I'm not going to use the swampthing, although that exists to some extent.
But the question, I think somepeople have one, whether it's him
with his board appointment or your workfor the General Assembly. How are you
How are you still able to provideoversight when that oversights on people that your

(01:25:43):
colleagues and possibly friends. So explainhow that that disconnects so that the process
can work. How you achieve that? So the General Assembly is the one
allocating the money and the auditor ismaking sure that money is being used correctly.
I'm sorry, and I'm sorry.Let me I just sorry. I
want to clarify the question. I'mnot implying that you're auditing the General Assembly,

(01:26:06):
but generally the General Assembly a lotof times gives money to people they
like because it's the prerogative of whoever'sin powers. So the people on the
receiving end are also going to befolks that you probably have a relationship with,
correct a lot of them. Yeah, okay, all right, So
I'm just want to be clear forthe people. I know you understood the

(01:26:27):
question, but go ahead. I'msorry to interrupt. Yeah. Yeah,
So you know, my opponents donatedto a lot of them. I just
started in politics last year. Anyonewho's supporting me and the General Assembly is
doing that because they know my background. They like me, we get along.
You know, someone who has donatedto the very top, who's gotten

(01:26:51):
appointments by them, I think that'sgoing to be a little more influential than
someone who just kind of went into see how process work, how the
sausage was made. I like howyou put it. And you know,
I've been I could have been sayingthings that people wanted to hear throughout my
campaign that would have probably helped mypoll numbers, and but I've decided against

(01:27:15):
that. Everyone knows that I'm independent. I've made entirely clear to everyone that
I'm going to do the right thing. I'm not going to be swayed by
any powers. You know, Icould have been swayed by democratic powers when
I was in democratic areas. ButI've built my whole campaign, really my
whole life on doing the right thing, being independent, And just because I

(01:27:43):
get along with people doesn't mean I'mjust going to do what they say.
They can't tell me how to auten, you know. I'm I'll maybe make
suggestions on things, but they're they'rethe ones making the policies and the law.
So we each have our roles toplay, and and I'm gonna play
mine. Okay, Jack Clark withus, I like that. I've been

(01:28:04):
around. I could have gone theother way. I would hope, sir,
that it was not as one ortwo life choices that kept you from
standing on the campus or university atCAFIFA yelling at Jewish people. So but
that's wild times, man. Ilove the part too where he's on the
UNC board. You're a duke grad, so we can have that old fight.
So Jack Clark, you'll see himon the other side of the auditor's

(01:28:27):
race. Get out and vote people. Jack appreciate the time this morning.
Okay, thank you so much.Yeap, All right, there you go
and like I said, we gotwe got one more queued up. That's
how Weatherman. He's the one ofthe two along with Jim O'Neil runoff candidates
for lieutenant governor. We'll chat withHal here in the last segment, so
ho'll hang on. I don't wantto just give you a couple of minutes.

(01:28:50):
And uh, right now we'll getRay stage. I can chat with
him, who's not running for anything. No, just do you guys run
for chief meter cologists? Do youguys have to like in uh black panther.
I'm not sure you don't really runfor it. Kind of it's just
a title that's given to you.Like here here in radio, we kind

(01:29:13):
of do what we want. SoI became senior Meteorologists just by you know,
longevity and years served that I couldyou just add titles like like a
like a dictator and yes, SouthAmerica exactly how it goes with no pay
increase of course. You know,remember we are at radio, those guys
all the money. You just havesix stars on all right? All right,

(01:29:34):
us in looking at all right rightnow, a little wet weather actually
got a band of rain and showersjust northeast now of Hickory and Charlotte getting
into us, other parts of theTriad and Fayetteville Sandford start to see that
rain come in, so dispatch alloverspread the areas we go through this morning.
That'll break, but more isolated showershowers today. Really not expecting much

(01:29:57):
in the way of sunshine. Ifyou get sun and maybe you'll get a
little warmer than seventy, but mostof us mid upper sixties to near seventy
degrees. The shower stutter showers willcontinue tonight and tomorrow too. We'll get
more rain. There'll be some fogin the morning right around seventy degrees,
and then Thursday probably gonna be thebig day of the week, lots of
sun mid upper seventies before the showerstutter showers return again Friday, and we'll
do some work of the weekend forecastmight just be afternoon stuff, case,

(01:30:21):
which we would expect this time ofyear, will be warmer, close to
eighty degrees, but either way,it looks like Thursday is gonna be the
only day over the X four orfive we don't mention rain. So as
a chief meteorologist Senior chief meteorologist sixstars, you're ross i heard take Thursday
off. Is that what he said? Yeah? So all right, good

(01:30:42):
advice, siate it right. Allright, there you go, and we're
gonna chat with Jeff Ballinger and thenHal Weatherman. He is today one of
the two hopefuls for GOP's nomination forwell for lieutenant governor, and I think
he knows what lieutenant governor does becausehe worked for one for a very long
time. So we'll chat with himnext. Hang on, I go to
Jeff Bellinger from Bloomberg with the professionalsounding way, how are you doing a

(01:31:06):
s morning, sir, I'm doingwell. Nice to hear you in studio
quality as well. Look, yessee yeah we like that. Yes,
last month's jump and wholesale level inflationwas bigger than expected. That report just
out at eight thirty this morning.The headline Producer Price Index rose half a
percent in April that topped all estimates. The year over year increase was two

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point two percent that was in linewith forecasts, and the core PPI,
which strips out energy and food costs, was up four tens percent. And
economist tells Bloomberg her take is thatdisinflation has stalled stock market futures, though
they had a knee jerk reaction sharplylower, but they're just a little bit
lower now. S and P futuresdown just two points. Nasdaq futures are

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down thirty three, the Dow futuresare down five. And that report first
came out, the Dow futures weredown more than one hundred points. The
soft housing market and weak demand forbig ticket appliances a really bad combination for
Home Depot. The home improvement chainhas reported negative sales now for six consecutive
quarters. Small business owners were moreupbeat last month. The National Federation of

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Independent Business reports its Optimism index rosefor the first time this year, after
dropping in March to the lowest levelsince twenty twelve. The index, though
is still well below its long termaverage. Walmart's cutting hundreds of corporate jobs
and notifying most remote workers they'll haveto work from the office most of the
time. The giant retailer will alsomove workers from smaller offices in Dallas,

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Atlanta, and Toronto to bigger facilities, including its Bentonville, Arkansas headquarters.
About one thousand employees of the jobsearch website indeed, will ironically need the
services of a job search site indeedplanning a round of layoffs in response to
a cooling labor market. A lotof Tesla employees who were laid off a

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couple of weeks ago we'll be rejoiningthe electric car company, sources tell Bloomberg.
Tesla is rehiring about five hundred membersof its supercharger team. The workers
were fired by Elon Musk late lastmonth. Kraft Heines is reportedly looking to
get out of the packaged meats business. The Wall Street Journal says the food
giant has put Oscar Meyer up forsale. And Casey, krispy Kreme is

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teamed up with the country music iconDolly Parton. The Dolly Southern Sweets donut
collection is in krispy Kreme stores nowfor a limited time only. Casey,
I like how krispy Kreme thinks theyneed to do something to make me come
in and eat all their donuts.It's like, you guys should just be
open. That's fine, put yourlittle hot donuts sign on. We're good,
but all right cool if you likeDolly and krispy Kreme. There you

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go, Thanks, Jeff, Okay, have a good day, all right,
There you go, Jeff Ellinger,Bloomberg News like I love me some
Dolly, but yeah, just tellme the donuts are hot and you know
I'm there. All right, let'schat with one of the two candidates you'll
see today as lieutenant governor runof HalWeatherman. Full disclosure, Hallie, you

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and I have known each other along time because you worked with Dan Forrest.
Obviously, as things we're getting rollinghere, and I believe you and
I attended a Thanksgiving together at Dan'shouse, not during an election year,
but I just want people to knowthat. All right, full disclosure.
There we go. Where are youbetter than Jim O'Neil, which, by
the way, I don't have beefwith either of you, So make the

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case, sir, Thank you well. I'm a limited government, constitutional Christian
conservative running for lieutenant governor. Mywife and I sat out on this journey
about sixteen months ago, and wewere the only candidate in the original eleven
man field that went to all onehundred counties. We went to thirty five

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counties five times or more. Wewent to ten counties ten times or more.
And I think that's important because Ithink if you governor or lieutenant governor
to lead a state, I thinkyou need to intimately know the state,
its strength and its weaknesses that weknow on the job training for me if
I'm elected lieutenant governor. I hadthe honor of privilege, as you pointed

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out, to serve as chief ofstaff to a previous Lieutenant Governor, Dan
Forrest. And again that job affordedme the ability to travel the state as
well and learn the state. Soyou know, we put in a good
fight. We've gone through. Wewere victorious on primary election night. We
were the top vote getter. Wewon sixty two of the one hundred counties,

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garnered one hundred and eighty one thousandvotes. But the second place senator
did challenge us to a runoff,despite US defeating him by thirty four thousand
votes and defeating him in eighty ofthe one hundred counties. But that runoff
is today, and I asked peopleto get out and vote, and I
asked for their support. What wasyour least favorite county? How, No,

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there is no such thing of OliverCounty. You know you know what?
Then I'm smart enough not to answerthat casey, But I will say
this, I do spend the vastmajority of my time. I'm eighty five
of our one hundred counties or ruraland so where I spend the vast majority
of my time is actually not inCharlotte or you know, Raleigh. It
actually is in the rural areas ofthis state. And it's that's important.

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I mean many counties that I goto, especially in the far West and
or the far East, you know, for Cumin's pass Quotank or Graham Swain,
you know, they'll say things likeI've never seen a lieutenant governor candidate
here, And We've gone to thosecounties multiple times to show them the love
and the attention that they deserve.And you know, and I think that's
important because I think if you wantto lead a state again, you need

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to know it. But also youneed to show your face there. You
need to know. And that's thekind of lieutenant governor I want to be.
I want to be accessable to people. And I've said before that if
I do have the honor and theprivilege to win, I'm not going to
govern. If you will from Raleigh, Yes, I'll preside over the State
Senate, so I'll be in Raleigh. I'll have an office in Raleigh,
but you know, I'm going togovern from the road I'm going to continue

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what we have done and travel thestate so that people can know their lieutenant
governor, know them personally and letme know what's on their minds. I've
learned as I've gotten older in mylife, and I were believers, but
I have learned as I've gotten older. But it is more important as a
candidate. It is more important notwhat comes out of my mouth. It's

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more important that I had eyes tosee and ears to hear what people are
saying to me as I traveled tostate and then to try to solve the
problems. And so, like Isaid, we tried to do something different
in this campaign. We wanted ina day and age of thirty second attack
ads, we wanted to connect oneon one with as many people as we
could. This is an interesting casey. We were the top fundraiser in our

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eleven man field. We were thetop We raised more money than anyone else.
Yet despite that, and on perpose, we did not put one diamond
TV, one diamond radio or onedime and directly we just traveled the state
and that with people one on one. I mean, I I don't I
don't want to tell you you're wrong, but I feel that a radio investment
would be a really good idea,maybe a big fat one here, so

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no, but no doubt that wewill do predicial advertising moving forward.