Thursday-6-27-2024

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Something on my calendar today. Justcan't remember what that might be. Oh
look, here's CNN explaining how they'renew microphone systems going to work during the
debate. If we go behind thepodiums, you can see two green lights.
When they're on, they signal tothe candidate his microphone is on.
When the green lights are off,they signal to the candidate his microphone is

(00:21):
off. Now, I want togive you a sense of what it will
look like for viewers at home ifa candidate whose microphone is off interrupts a
candidate whose microphone is on. SoI'm standing at one podium and I'll ask
Phil to come in and take theother podium. And so let's say I'm
answering a question. My light isgreen and I'm speaking. Phil's microphone is
off and his green lights are notilluminated. He's going to interrupt me as

(00:43):
I'm speaking, And this is whatit will sound like. My volume remains
constant, while Phil's interruption can bedifficult to understand. Let's try the opposite.
My microphone is now on, Victor'smicrophone is off, and he's going
to interrupt me. By the way, why would you need to show me
the opposite. Well do you are? Are there such low IQ? Well,

(01:06):
actually, at CNN, you knowwhat I'm wrong here? You probably
do have to demonstrate it, eitherfor conspiracy theory reasons or whatever. I'm
sorry, go ahead. My volumeremains constant while Victor's interruption can be difficult
to understand. The Senes production teamhas shared this demonstration with the campaigns earlier

(01:26):
today, and we're sharing it withyou, our viewers, so everyone fully
understands how tomorrow night will work.Now we should know by agreeing to participate
in this debate. Both campaigns andcandidates have also agreed to bide by these
rules. The CNN Presidential Debate airsa lot tomorrow night at nine PMES.
Okay, all right, so theyare going to go with the full mic

(01:49):
cutoff. I would point out there'soptions here. We do something like,
let me give you a hypothetical.Ross. You're going to be the caller
for this, Okay, So let'ssay you call into the show and you
told the producer, which is youobviously, but I want to talk about

(02:12):
this, and then you get onthe air and you don't, and then
you start staying really stupid stuff.Okay, When I start speaking, or
Ross starts speaking on our microphone positions, it does something called ducking. That's
the word for it. It ducks. And basically it is a elect It
is a setting where electronically the volumeof you on the phone saying stupid stuff

(02:42):
because you're dumb, not you,but you know, the hypothetical person here,
their audio level would would would dump. So if you know, if
Ross is talking and he's the caller, I literally my mic will duck his
mic as well if he is notat his position. So if he gets

(03:04):
on one of the other mics,like if he was to walk in the
other studio and be on mics twothrough four or any of the other ones
like that, I'm pointing out thatthe technology exists where you have heard it
over the years in a radio setting, right, things like that. And
then obviously sometimes people call and Idon't know if they take the phone and

(03:28):
spin it upside down so that theycan't hear me, and you would be
you would be shocked the number oftimes I'm talking to a caller and it's
a caller that's just rambling, andall of a sudden, I start saying
something because we're coming up to abreak or whatever it is, and then
all of a sudden, even thoughthat caller had been talking, you kind

(03:49):
of hear them disappear. The otheroption is Ross literally on occasion, has
to pot it all the way downbecause even ducking doesn't handle it and he'll
literally in my ear you can't hearit and be like he's still talking.
And it's most of the times it'snot arsenal. I just got to break
the hit and no, it happenedlast week I think where we had a

(04:10):
guy who just would not stop talkingwhen you were trying to have a conversation
with him, and I don't Sometimesit's a it's an age issue. Sometimes
you just don't hear the phone.And yeah, I potted this guy down
so you can have a conversation,and you you, you gave him probably
a sixty you know, a goodresponse, and the entire time you were
giving your sixty second response or whatever, he kept talking. He talked the

(04:30):
entire duration of what he had noidea he was off the air. So
I'm just the point that I'm makingis people are like, oh, this
is unprecedented. It is, butit isn't and and CNN there are better
ways to handle it. Now,why do you think CNN's going with this
direction? By the way, doyou think that that's all it does,

(04:51):
or do you think like so,my conspiracy is if Joe Biden's talking and
he starts wandering and Donald Trump startsinterrupting it, it hits Biden with I
don't know, maybe like a shotof the adderall or something. I don't
know. I don't know, likebecause I enjoy reading weird stuff on the

(05:15):
internet, you know. So I'mlittle the audio them explaining how this works,
and my first thought was this isgoing to confuse Biden, is it?
Though? I I mean, Iknow it's sad to say because it's
so simple, but I mean it'sa minute, what one minute fifteen second
audio clip about how the microphones work, and I think it's it might be
too I could see him like,okay, here's the thing. I can

(05:36):
see him talking and thinking his microphoneis on and it not being on.
Sure, oh, absolutely, onehundred percent. But is that more injurious
than some I didn't pull all theexchanges, but there's there's lots of exchanges
where not in the first not thefirst debate between those two that was that

(05:56):
was its own thing. But inthe second debate, Biden be talking and
Trump would be more concise. Youknow a lot of times he just says
little stuff like you know, whenthere's that famous Hillary Clinton one where you
know, she said something and hesaid, because you'd be in jail.
That clip floats around a lot.There's a there was a montage of when

(06:16):
Trump would start saying stuff even ifyou'd say just a little thing where Biden
would either stop, freeze or itwould take him off the point that he
was wanting to make. Yeah,it's a good point because even if they
mute Trump's microphone over the broadcast,Biden can obviously still hear him, right,
I mean they're not like separated bylike a plexiglass or a partition or

(06:40):
anything. Right, I don't know, there's not remember, there's not a
lot of you. I don't knowwho the hell knows. I mean,
that's how it looks in the video. So if it is that distance,
I guess maybe if Biden's got anear piece in, But you know,
that's the that's the that's the wholeconspiracy. All the time I would point
this out, Joe Biden having anearpiece with people saying stuff in his head.

(07:03):
He wouldn't be able to handle it. Would you agree with that as
somebody who's had to literally keep talkingon the air, well A thousand,
Yeah, there's no There is noway that Joe Biden could handle it.
Or but I'm the actor under theJoe Biden face mask the lizard person who
are? Oh you went? Areyou already there? Damn it? I
had a better one go ahead?And yeah, you know what I'm saying.

(07:23):
So you have the lizard person whois or the Biden clone with the
mask over the ears so you alreadycan't hear. Good, then you put
an earpiece in there, and thenyou put in all the mind. It's
gonna be so confusing for whoever's playingBiden or that lizard person. Yeah,
but I mean the lizard person brain. Maybe their brain can comprehend it.
I don't know how. Yeah,well don't they telepathically connection? Anyway?

(07:44):
I think those are the grays.I don't know, you're telling me a
graye never gotten with the lizard person? Oh good dude. You know they
have you know, brown Figger Brown. Yeah right, I don't know,
because they're really into the probing.You know, some of the lizard people
are into that as well. Maybeyou know persons into you know, flokas
or whatever, you know, thelittle little spinners or whatever they say,

(08:09):
you know, or or and andand and it like has destroyed the lizard
person's family right because they, youknow, brought the gray home for I
don't know, what's a lizard personholiday right to meet the fam and lizard
dads like I and lizard moms likedon't say anything, honey, And it's
this whole uncomfortable like and that hadto have happened in the grand scheme of

(08:33):
things, just saying that being said, Can I let me let me give
you an absurdity, not that lizardpeople in gray is an absurdity obviously,
let me let me give you anabsurdity that I could literally see an argument
being made for considering the amount ofmanipulation that is willing to be done on

(08:58):
it. Look, the North CarolinaBoard of Elections just decided RFK and Cornell
West can't be on the ballot eventhough they're they're you know, they're literally
out there they're known U RFK Junioris I don't he like he ends up
on polls in North Carolina and theyjust decided. The Democrats said we can't

(09:20):
have them. They'll lose just likethey did with the Greens last time,
and the Supreme Court will probably bethe one who does it here in North
Carolina. But if you're willing tomanipulate, uh, tell me if you
think that a that you could geta politician or a journalist who is clearly

(09:41):
on the left to make this argument. We tried to do the mic muting.
It didn't work. And because ofthe proximity on the stage, like
you just pointed out, Ross Biden, who's just trying to answer the question
just be a man of the people, he still is unable to do so
because this monster won't shut up.All right, Well, we also have

(10:07):
AI. So if Joe Biden isexplaining his student loan whatever, right,
and Donald Trump is making it impossibleto do that, why shouldn't an AI
be able to just utilize the previousstatements that Joe Biden has made on this
and then that's what comes through themicrophone. I mean, technologically, that's

(10:33):
that that could happen, right,I don't I don't see anything that would
stop that. So you know,Joe Biden's talking he's trying to explain this
thing. Evil Trump won't shut up. Boom Ai starts. The audio you
start hearing is from the time JoeBiden explained it at the rally in Memphis
or whatever. It's It's only fair. Does that sound so far fetched in

(10:58):
today's modern age? You know,it sounds weird at first, blush,
but roll it over a couple timesin your mind, because you'd have people
going, Look, the point ofthis is to inform individuals where they stand,
and if one candidate's not going toallow that, then we, you
know, we have to do something. We tried to do the mic muting,
it didn't work, and then we'lldo the grey thing and with the

(11:22):
lizard. I mean, those aregreat points, but I'm not gonna lie.
The entire time you were describing that, my mind was elsewhere thinking about
the lizard person and the Grays bondingover their hatred of Giorgio Suklos. They
could find something to bond over.You know, this guy knows nothing,
like this guy thinks he knows everything. He knows nothing, idiot, right,
but he's still a hype man forhim, right, I mean,

(11:45):
think about think about what he's whathe's pushing, he's he's he's like,
he's bragging on your tech, youknow what I mean? Like that feels
pretty good. What if they hadnone to do it and there's like a
third branch of aliens and they're like, those are the guys that really did
This guy's an idiot. Okay,we would never did what came up with.
You know, wormhole technology took overentire planets without you doing This is

(12:07):
more on with his hair. Ross. If I got on the air and
I'm like Ross, so over theweekend, Ross took over and now is
the head of the Illuminati and rulesthe planet bow right, even though you
didn't do that over the weekend,then I'm a man of the people.

(12:28):
I'd be like, those were theerechnids. You would no, no,
no, you feel a little good. I'd be like, oh, they
believe in me and my you know, my quest to dominate the world.
So who's the the lizard, Like, who's who's the mom? Who's the
dad? In that, I wouldassume the gray imagine it would be the

(12:52):
female. I think, dude,I have to ask the question that we
always ask in this situation. Doyou know what that question is? Is
that a category of adult film,not the actual aliens. But like,
I mean, you know how thisand every single time time this comes up,

(13:13):
my answer is yes, probably becauseeverything we searched it is all right.
Well, maybe I'm not searching thehell I'm not doing it. Wait,
did Trevor stay logged in in thestudio? He did? Dude,
you are presented with an opportunity.I signed him out. I signed him
out. Oh wow, you knowhow much power you held. No.

(13:35):
I came in, I saw yousigned in, and I said that's none
of my business, and I signedhim out because I'm amazing he did.
This is not he was at aboutfive point fifteen. He was a very
He was a very nervous individual,which understandably so in the sense that the

(13:58):
first time you're gonna go run,don care how long you've been in radio.
You're running the board for a newshow. First time I do a
fill in for a host, evenif they have a similar you know,
if they have a very similar clockto me, I still am a little
nervous. First time I did Miamibecause they have a newswheel like, I
apologize the program director He's like,no, it's fine, and I'm like,

(14:22):
dude, it's just so different fromwhat I do. And so we
go on the air and I'm like, hey, you know, this is
Trevor Ross is out fighting comedies orwhatever. Trevor's RPD on one O six
and it's his first day. Sosay hi to Trevor, everybody, but
if you call in, that's whatyou're going to be hearing. And then

(14:43):
I'm like, by the way,Trevor previous program director his first day when
we were done, he forever wascalled Brian the bad boardop. So no
pressure and we rocked out and uh, you know, on the air,
I think it sounded fine. Littlecouple things there, so but that's good,
Like we need more people know howto run the show, give us

(15:05):
more flexibility. So and the audiencewas suggesting that we refer to him as
Deputy Trevor, but I'll leave thatup to you because the sheriff thing,
So your choice, that's all I'msaying. Anyway, it is six twenty
two, have to go review thetape. Yeah, so we got this
debate thing tonight. Yeah, we'regonna have to get into that. But

(15:28):
in addition, we got a burgercontroversy. I don't know why this made
me so angry, but it did. If you if you're not following the
what a Burger lawsuits, Yeah,we'll get into that. There's because there's
a lot more info that's out alsoswatting out. There's a there's a new

(15:48):
thing you can do in the worldof video games, and Steven kent our
nerd correspondent will make his triumphant returnto defend the acolyte or something. And
I'm I'm gonna be very interested tohear it because lightsaber haircuts are a thing

(16:11):
now and I got questions. Sohang on, welcome, It is the
Cacoday Radio program. We know whatis the oh you will know? All
right? Let me I want tomake sure I understand that I did see
that this morning, but what you'retelling me in your email is difference or
so let me do a little moreresearch because I share your concern. It's

(16:34):
it's about CNN and Elon Musk.So all right, hang loose on that.
Let's grab a couple or I guesswe just got one caller still holding.
Let me grab a quick call Kevin. What's going on this morning?
Hey, you just reported on thenews that Biden is in a hangar in
a movie theater with sixteen people.He's filming what's going to be put on

(16:59):
tonight. He picked the side ofthe stage he wants to be on.
He doesn't want an audience. It'sgonna be ai if he starts to mess
up. Well, look, I'mnot spinning conspiracy, sir. But literally
everything you just said except for theyou know, I don't. I don't
know that they'll just cut to thefilm there. But I like that addition
to my conspiracy. The absurdity ofno audience and them literally constructing Bollaggio safe

(17:27):
is wild, right, It's crazy, man. Yeah, I like that
going. What about the Gray holdon? Sir? Let me ask you
the important question. I let yougo the Grays and the lizard people.
Who's wearing the pants in that family? Nancy Pelosi is all right, fair

(17:48):
enough, appreciate it? Yeah,all right. So I like Kevin's edition
Ross, That's a good one.Huh No, it makes sense, right,
They have a full scale replica ofthe set that he's been practicing on
in front of, like you know, pretty suits and staffers and stuff.
So I mean if but no audience, just clear, no audience. But
the AI stuff aside. You know, even if they're recreating the set there,

(18:08):
I'm sure they wouldn't just give himthe answers ahead of time, right,
I mean, at that point it'dbe Trump's word. I don't know
how much of his staff is goingto be in there, but they wouldn't
get any traction because none of theoutlets would run any of his stuff.
No, I just want to beabundantly clear. I I No, I

(18:30):
don't think that's going to happen.But right, where's the same suit and
we're left arguing over whether the partin his hair was in exactly the same
spot as the last shot, becauseyou know, a lot of times to
detract from something, all you gottado is just cause confusion. But it's

(18:51):
I don't go. You know,there's theaters around. That's just so you
know they're they're so green that theybuilt a theater for two weeks or they
built obviously they didn't build a newbuilding, but well, how many how
long did that take? What didthat cost? What is the carbon footprint?
You're telling me? I didn't evenwhat is the venue for this?

(19:17):
By the way, you know whatI just realized, I don't know the
name of the theater that they're actuallyin. But you know, Ross,
you've been in a lot of theatersdoing what we do right go, you
know, for concerts or for someof the larger scale events things along those
lines. I have, they havetheir uniqueness. But at the end of

(19:41):
the day, does Red Hat andWalnut Creek really look that much different from
a from a stage perspective. Imean, either way, you're on the
stage and you're looking out into lights, you know what I mean, Yes,
that's what and that's where I wasgoing. And when you're on you
almost see nothing, depending on howit's set up. It's it's pretty crazy.

(20:02):
That's why if you ever go toconcert and an artist is interacting,
when they did it, put theirhand on their forehead right there, and
depending on how the lights are set. I remember I when I was still
doing the thing on our all rockstation, I would have to go go
down and do it or Dutch.I hated doing that because I just felt
so old. I felt I feltso old standing on the stage at Red

(20:23):
Hat looking down and and my oldbrain kicks in and I'm like, dude,
I'm sorry. Do do teen girlswear clothes anymore? I I really
I realized how old I was.I was the same way when I was
still doing them sing the clubs onlike a Friday and Saturday night for the
time right before I came over herein twenty eleven. I remember I was

(20:45):
up there in the VP the DJboot looking down. I'm like, I'm
so old I was. I waskind of relieve though, like because I'm
like, that's the right response,you know, uh, when you when
you're getting on that. At nopoint, I'm like, hey, I
wonder if I could text these girlsand meet them backstage, only if I
know it's true. I was relieved. I don't. Yeah, you get

(21:08):
older and like, like like kidseven in like college, they look like
they're twelve. Yes, you knowwhat I mean. They're like you're so
young, and You're like, you'rehow old you're in college? You're like,
you're're in sixth grade. You're aliar. I'm sitting there and I
was introducing who was it. Idon't even it doesn't matter who it was,
but it was, you know,it was obviously one of the newer
acts, and I'm just like,and I remember thinking while I'm talking,

(21:32):
I'm like, can your parents letyou go out? Like that that wasn't
all of it. It wasn't everybody, but yeah, it was a few
in the front row who I waslike, oh my gosh, but yeah,
you really have a hard time seeinga lot of it. It's just
the whole thing with like to reconstructit when the I could probably find a

(21:59):
theater all right, all right,right location, it's in Atlanta, I
know that, But is it atheater or is it CNN, like because
CNN has a performance studio. Iknow you're shocked. Ah, why would

(22:19):
you make this piece of information sohard to locate? What is wrong with
look at it? Even on CNN'sIt's like, give me a break.
It's going to NBC Chicago for thisinformation. Yeah, apparently there's gonna be

(22:42):
a bunch of protests, so prepareone's oneself to this. But remember this
is an administration that likes building sets. Yeah, but like, I still
don't understand why they have that setof the Oval Office. It's super weird.
So for those of you who don'tknow, you have the Oval Office
and in the Executive the Executive buildor whatever the building is right next to

(23:06):
they constructed a half Oval office completewith windows with not real stuff behind it,
because obviously you have to mirror theview that people know is the Oval
office. So they have a fakehalf oval office set. Now. They
said it's so that they can holdevents in the Oval office, which has
limited space. So if you justhave the part that you're firing a camera

(23:30):
into and then you mock up thewindows, it allows for more people to
be in there. But in mostof the instances, right I see him
use it, it's pool reporters,which you know, it's not the entirety
of the White House press staff,it's pool reporters. It makes you have
to have him now leave the Ovaloffice go over the other thing if he's

(23:53):
involved instead of leading probably about fifteenpeople in which can which can easily fit
in the Oval office. I willattest that to you as somebody who has
literally gotten to look into it.Okay, So in the background of the
windows never make sense because it'll belike the middle of winter and behind them

(24:15):
they'll be like big trees, likeit's like it's summer or spring. Well,
you know, I don't know ifyou know this, you've been on
the White House grounds. Uh No, it's like one of those magical things
surrounding it, so it's always perfectalways. Oh so it's like, yeah,
it's like, is it like adome or is it like forest field
technology? It's force field tech.Oh wow, yeah, it's the grat

(24:37):
It makes me feel better knowing wehave that to defend our president. And
as a peasant, all you seeis just you know, I'll look at
snowe over there too. But onceyou get inside, now it's perfect.
So that's crazy technology. I wasgoing to say, like, is there
something Harry Potter that that would kindof go with. I didn't. I
didn't know, so, but youget what I'm driving out. That's see

(25:06):
it isn't okay. It is inCNN's Atlanta studios. You know what is
this is such bs man. Imean obviously you can't roll in there,
but they the performance studio that theyhave for CNN. So when you see
they've done CNN town Hall stuff inthere, so you're probably familiar with.
It is not notably different than onehundred venues that they would have access to

(25:33):
and they and they could rent.In fact, you know, he's got
a very similar performance studio like thatis uh public radio and uh people you
can rent it uh in in DCbecause they had a thing. I'm like,
why are we going to the publicradio thing? But they had rented
the facility, so oh man,all right, who the hell knows what's

(25:56):
gonna happen. But as we cruisethrough the show, because we got to
canceling, we got to do uhhere in just a moment, I most
what what do you think actually happens? I I everyone is. I've seen
everyone going, this is what shouldhappen. Right, Trump should be shown

(26:18):
for who he is, Joe Biden, Joe Biden should the world should see
that he's infirm. But in reality, do you think that's what's going to
happen or is that just people kindof projecting their political wants and needs,
because look, the the ingredients arethere for this thing to go sideways,

(26:44):
and it could. It's just it'sit's depressing to me that it never has
because every State of the Union,every debate, we're like, okay,
this could be the one where itgoes completely off the rails and the clone
or the or the robot malfunctions andthen you know it's the world. Yeah,
and it never happens. He alwaysrolls out there and he's you know,
hopped up on a million different drugs, or they just had an IV

(27:07):
with him backstage, or it's whatever. It's it's the newest version of the
clone or whatever. I'm kidding.I don't actually think there's a clone.
There's somebody out there right now going, oh, there's a clone more on.
But No, it's never that trainwreck that you think is going to
happen. No, And it's neverthat. He was talking on the news
this week about when you're in theWhite House, the medicine cabinet's amazing,
and they were talking about their timefrom in the Trump thing, and not

(27:30):
just for whoever's the president, butlike, if you're anybody who's in the
higher up, they're just writing scriptsand I'm sure something you'd get arrested.
Yeah, And I'm sure it's somesort of medication you've never heard of.
What if they what if they accidentallyget some laced with fentanyl, because doesn't
that happen to literally every drug nowat some point, like ah, there's

(27:52):
ventanyl in the and then I feellike we do a story a week on
that. So to your point,no, it's something you've never heard of,
but also so it's something they're notjust yeah, and it's heading heading
to uptown to buy. And it'ssuper weird because like we see consistently in
the news, like the Joe Bidenthat was at Normandy or the Joe Biden
that was some factory giving a speechand he can't follow along. You never

(28:14):
see that Biden at these events.It just never seems to happen. And
and they have not really they have. They did not return to the White
House after the weekend, and theyannounced that they wouldn't be so uh they
you know, they've been doing thisthing they're doing all right, so that
you know, we'll make that partof the show. Also, we got
uh, let's see here, isthat what they call it? The cat?

(28:37):
Oh no, I see what you'redoing there, sir? All right,
I you almost got me. Thatwas pretty good. But instead I'm
gonna go to break and we comeback. We'll do a canceling. Hang
on cac O Day Radio program phonenumber eight eight eight nine three four seven
eight seven four. We got usa canceling and I'm not gonna scold you

(29:00):
guys, but we're gonna we're gonnahave a discussion about taking a taking a
little step back, a little pause, a little respite sometimes where you when
you're like, oh, what isgoing on and just giving it a good
think, because I think too oftennowadays we don't give stuff a good think
and it's and it's easy, likewe've been trained not to do it right

(29:22):
by social media. This thing justhappened. I have to have a I
got to put something out immediately.Where do you stand? I gotta be
up in like three seconds because theother guy's going to be up in five
and if it takes are too similar, I think we just rosstin't We just
talked about this where people are like, why why haven't you wait in on
this thing that happened three minutes ago? And it's like, I don't know,

(29:44):
Maybe I want to wait for somemore information or think about it.
And uh, I did see thevery same thing that a bunch of you
have sent me emails on and Iknew it already, but I'll get into
it. So first the canceling andI got to tell you the stones this

(30:11):
takes in North Carolina is absolutely wildto me. I can I almost respect
and you and you'll see it inthe way that they worded some of this,
like I respect you putting it outthere because it's so insane and it's

(30:32):
going to it it will irritate somany people. And you said, I
don't care. I'm an unhinged moonbat and I'll do what I want to
do. So what am I talkingabout the latest problematic statue? Yeah,

(30:52):
we got one. The difference isthis statue is about forty days old,
or at least the installation of itis about forty days old. I'm,
of course, referring to the extremelyproblematic Billy Graham's statue that was put into

(31:15):
the Capitol. I guess, justreal quick, every state can provide two
statues. It has been they andthey change. They can change, and
there's Look, there's been controversy beforewhere especially among Southern states, protesters go
out and they're like, Ah,this person, who's the statue in there?
They were alive during I don't know, slavery, or they did own

(31:37):
slaves right with some of the foundingfathers, or Utah has Brigham Young,
which if you ask me what statuesthey'd probably stick in the hall from Utah,
you wouldn't. You wouldn't finish sayingthe two syllable name of the state.

(31:57):
And I would have said Brighamy,you like, it's super predictable.
So for those of you who don'tknow here, about a month and a
half ago we swapped out a statueone of our two and implemented the late
Reverend Billy Graham. Now notice theR right there with the reverend. So
I guess you can imagine what theproblem is. Ah, I'm gonna start

(32:24):
reading this. We're gonna and thenI'm gonna need more time and we'll get
calls. So if you want tohang on and you're on the phone,
but I have to get this storyout to you. On May sixteenth,
the statue of the late Reverend BillyGraham was unveiled in the US Capitol.
It's North Carolina's official entry in thecrypt of the US Capital for the people

(32:44):
of Graham's home state. And bythe way, the author knows that they're
gonna get shredded for this, it'sin the wording. But I don't know.
Maybe they feel that they're morally justifiedwhen in reality they're giant hypocrites.
And I can test it in onetheory. For some the statue immortalizes a
man who was a staple on televisionfor close to sixty years and helped spread

(33:07):
the importance of religion and morality throughoutthe United States for others. By erecting
the statue in the US Capital,it immortalizes the word and teachings of Christianity.
We got us a controversy in anop ed that appeared in the McClatchy
newspapers. We have a new problematicstatue. And I got to tell you,

(33:34):
you know, by the way,the author of the article, Robert
Wiener, is a Clinton and hewas spokesman for Clinton and Bush white House.
Although I don't know that that's fairto say mostly Clinton. I guess
they're trying to say that he isbipartisan here, but he's clearly not unfamiliar
with him. But the idea thatwe'd run this op ed and all the

(33:58):
McClatchy stuff complaining about the one monthand like what almost like almost forty five
day old Billy Graham statue that NorthCarolina just put in their one of two
spots at the US Capitol is wildto me. And look, this is

(34:19):
not about this is not about Congressestablishing a law like this is like so
many other things where you are ofthe opinion that the Constitution is a living,
breathing document versus strict you know,strict constructionists. Right, those two

(34:39):
lines of thoughts, you have expandedit so massively so that you know they
were able to take privacy laws anduse it to create a right to abortion,
which, by the way, anyonesays, anyone who says abortion is
a right now you need to remindthem that no, it is not not
anymore. It's a separate issue thatis for the states. So that is

(35:05):
inaccurate language. I know everyone getsvery tied up, and that's just being
accurate. Right. It doesn't matterhow you feel about something, you need
to be accurate. So is Congressdoing a law here or is it just
the reality that some Americans or somepeople who you may interact with, are
guided by religion. Some people areguided by crystals or guided by just an

(35:30):
innate sense of their parents raised themnot to be a dirt bag? Do
you care why a person that youenjoy being around or interacting not without getting
into the personal side of it,right, because you know, once you
get into a friendship or any ofthat, then you know those deeper conversations

(35:51):
may happen. But when I meetsomebody for the first time, I'm like,
oh, it's a nice guy.That nice guy. I'll give an
example. Ross, uh uh Nick, Nick down the hall? What'd you
think first time you met him?Good dude, funny dude, Yeah,
funny dude, nice dude. It'sfunny. What church does he go to?
I have I have no clue.Okay, no idea. I don't

(36:15):
care. What was What kind ofcrystals does he have at his house?
Next to incense? I do notknow how If I guess, I would
go with the purple kind. Yeah, well, amethyst is of a cop
out because you can pretend you're nota crystal person. Now you got to
go full spinny crystals and chants andstuff. What was his childhood? Like?
Uh ah did it? It wasrough? It's to man, Okay,

(36:39):
so you don't know. He wasabandoned by kickboxing nuns. Did you
know that? Dude? You're gonnaI need you just yeah, I have
no idea. I have no clue. All right, Really, kickboxing nuns
are a thing I'm interested. Didyou see that they had some like slutty
nuns that were in Chicago, Like, like, there's some real weird bastards

(37:01):
that believe it or not, they'renot in the Catholic Church anymore. I've
seen some videos like before in thepast. Okay, no, this was
not that all right, anyway,this thing has came up. The point
is I think Nick's a nice guy. Ross thinks Nick's a nice guy.
I don't care why he's a niceguy, do you know what I mean?

(37:22):
So with Billy Graham, with BillyGreen, now you still have to
tell the story of the person,because that's what you're capturing here. So
do you think that the only peopleinfluenced by Billy Graham over the course of
his life were people who have thesame exact belief as as Billy Graham did.

(37:43):
No, And it's famously documented,especially you know when you get into
when you get into the partisan politics. You know, you have Graham's interaction
with the Carter family. You havepeople that are of other faiths, people
who are atheists. Because what everinspired Billy Graham to do what he did

(38:04):
and to create what we you knowwhat we still to this day see when
we're driving to Asheville, which uh, well, you want to talk about
Heaven and Hell being next to eachother, Holy cow. But like you
know, in in Lntreat, thereand Black Mountain in that area. And
then when you go when you goto the worst places in the world,

(38:28):
you know who's there. Samaritan's purse. When I I told you, when
I was in Colombia and Ecuador inthe bad parts where you've got you know,
you're having to drive through there,Samaritan's purse is there. They're you
know, they're out there doing stuff. And and I didn't see I saw
Samaritan's purse. There's some there're obviouslysome religious imagery, and you're in Latin

(38:51):
America, so it's uh, youknow, very Catholic Christian ee. But
but you know, they're just outthere doing stuff. When COVID hit,
you remember Samaritan's purse. Literally hewas like, well, how about we
build you a hospital in Central Parkand they did, and if you remember,
a bunch of people got angry overit, and they were literally they
were blocking entrances. At one pointthey were telling people not to use it.

(39:15):
Your lawmakers telling people not to useit. Those good works and acts,
while they may be inspired from auh you know, from Christ,
are not exclusive to people who puttheir hand on the Bible and go yep,
save the soul, right So whenwhen good things are being done and

(39:38):
there is not some ulterior motive,and I don't think by the way,
one, you know, sharing theirfaith with somebody who may ask, is
an ulterior motive. That's dumb.Ulterior motive would be like you have to
sign this and now you're part ofthe church, because they don't and I
don't see you down there setting thesethings up right, and I'm not.

(40:00):
These are not pastors who go onby g five's not getting it done anymore.
So for all of those positive works, can we just be like,
yeah, that was a good thing. But when you're then having to tell
the story of what inspired that individual, it is not inappropriate to explain who

(40:22):
they are. And Billy Graham wasa believer, and he and and it
inspired him to want to share thatmessage and to put together and and and
do things that benefit people. Sowhat is the author upset about? Well,

(40:44):
the author is upset because that partof the story is included in there
as it should be. Just uh, let me reread this. For some
the statue immortalizes a man who isa staple on television for close to sixty

(41:04):
years and spread the importance of religionfor others, it immortalizes the word and
teachings of Christianity and is indirect competition. No, it's not. And what
it immortalizes in this case is he'sholding a Bible. And yes, there
is a Bible verse on there.And then there are two smaller inscriptions on
this because if you if you readGraham's biography and and by the way,

(41:30):
you didn't have to probably guess thatJohn three point sixteen was a popular popular
verse, right, that is thathe is who he was, So I
you know, the expectation is thatthe people that are in this the statue
hall, there are people that wereyou know, did good things or move

(41:52):
things forward, or were inspiration orwhatever. But now you're telling the story
of who they are. And BillyGraham without a Bible is not Billy.
But also there's nothing there that says, if you want to go look at
the statue that you have to acceptChrist as your savior. The statue with
the Bible part of the statue isopen to two Corinthians. No, I'm

(42:16):
kidding, Galatians six fourteen. Andthen there are two lines inscribed very small
at debate of the statue, Johnfourteen six and John three sixteen. Let's
see, and then Mike Johnson mentionedthem, so they're like, oh see
he mentioned them. He literally wassaid, hey, you know people are

(42:37):
walking by and then they can seethat. Well, it is a great
accomplishment. Oh and then this isthe line that they write, just to
let you know that the like,the author knows this is dumb. The
author knows that this is dumb.To be clear, this is little what

(43:00):
they wrote. To be clear,we believe that Graham's statue deserves to stay.
It's the religious iconography and inscriptions thatcross the dividing line between church and
state, and they need to beremoved. You know what, let me
know what day you're going to behitting that with a grinding wheel, and

(43:22):
I bet you that you won't beable to get into the statue hall with
a number of North Carolinians that willgo up there to stop you. You
absolute moon bets. Telling the storyof Billy Graham and not including what may
have motivated him is dumb. Andlet me give you an example of why
I know this, and I wantto see these cowards do next. I

(43:45):
have another suggestion of a statue thatis equally as problem arguably more problematic,
that you need to get on rightaway. And I would love for you
to go ahead and handle this andI will watch. Have you seen have
you been to the granite MLK statue? Right? I know it's the one

(44:07):
where it's like it's it's like hisprofile is protruding from the solid block of
granite. It's not some people thinkit's just that. It's not. It's
part of the whole thing is prettybig. In fact, it's so big
that you have the statue of MLK, who was a religious man, and

(44:29):
the statue then opens to this flourishingwall that is it's like five hundred it's
like five hundred feet. It's youknow, it's it's it's a couple it's
a couple foot or a football fieldin three quarters a wall that extends from
it and then comes out and onit is sermons, Mlk's sermons and there's

(44:52):
a lot of God mentions in there. I'm just gonna let you know.
And the expectation is part of thatstatue in the wall is that you you
read about the transitionary nature, andit's sermons and it's obviously speeches, and
it culminates with that statue, whichis a relief of him in his hand
holding his I have a dream speechas he mounted the stage in DC.

(45:16):
There's so much religious stuff on there, it's it's overwhelming for some people.
I suspect you're doing that? Isthat next? We're doing that next?
Because that sits on public property.That's six stood on the park there.

(45:37):
As you get go down towards wherethe Jefferson Memorial is directly adjacent to the
mall there so that they had enoughlength to run, then when are we
canceling the MLK statue and sermon wall. You're not You're too much of a
coward to write that. Come onMcClatchy Publishing. I want to see the

(45:57):
op ed calling for the dismantling ofthe MLK memorial there or at least grinding
down the five hundred foot walls sonobody, nobody has to be offended for
something that sits on public property andwas obviously you know, placed there and

(46:20):
had to go through the government allowingit and overseeing it, right because they
those are that's federal property. Itsets up. Where is your MLK op
at? I want to see it? Or is this just about you being
butt heard over the fact that BillyGraham was in there, and Mike Johnson
mentioned that there's Bible versus because that'swhat I feel like we're dealing with.

(46:45):
And while people are aware that MLKwas, you know, a reverend and
a doctor and all of that stuff, the majority of people who look to
MLK and and what it is isthat he was advocating for, don't I
I would argue, don't necessarily lookat it through a lens of religion.

(47:07):
Yet that was, among other things, the inspiration that was there. And
it's important to tell the story aboutwhat inspired people like Billy Graham or inspired
you know, MLK Jr. Orinspired anyone who we feel is important enough
to go ahead and find themselves adornedin our in our capital. And I

(47:31):
know you're going to be shocked tolearn many of those folks were deeply religious
and were driven by that. Butat the end of the day, were
they good people? And did theydo good things? But no, we
gotta we gotta cancel Billy Graham.You absolute lunatics. All right, quick
call here, she's been hanging onDonna. What's up, Good morning,

(47:53):
casey morning. I'm wondering about aminute and a half. But that was
the story I had to get intozone. It's just a quick question.
Should should Biden do well tonight?Should he still be seen as a sympathetic,
well meaning elderly man with a poormemory, or should he be prosecuted
for willfully retaining classified documents? Imean they want it both ways, right,

(48:15):
I think that uh, I thinkthat he should If he does well,
it doesn't matter, do you knowwhat I'm saying, Like all of
it. Yeah, we're gonna we'llsit here and we're gonna spitball. But
maybe out there it doesn't matter.The media is gonna you know what the
spin is gonna be. Oh yeah, yeah. So well personally, and

(48:38):
I'm sure many others believe that ifhis memory is not that bad, then
he should be prosecuted for the samething that they're prosecuting Trump for, you
know, I mean having classified documentary. I understand that the debate doesn't the
debate doesn't matter, Like that's noteven material here. That's a that's a
that's a double standard that exists beforewe ever get into this thing. Yeah

(49:02):
yeah, yeah, true. Allright, I've done. I gotta I
gotta roll, But thank you verymuch. Oh oh, you're gonna say
something else, probably about cats.So I did the world a favor.
Oh my gosh, do you thinkthat cat nips ever got laced with fentanyl?
That'd be everything else has? Howmany stories have we done? So,

(49:27):
uh, we'll get your calls onthe MLK, So, oh good,
stop sending me. MLK was acommunist stuff. Call the show and
say that. Don't be the McClatchycowards. We'll be back. Was teasing
Stagic Ray Stagic about being an apologistfor The Acolyte, which, if you're
paying even a modicum of attention,is, in the opinion of a lot
of Star Wars fans, the dumpsterfire of old dumpster fires, which is

(49:52):
saying something because you know the lastmovie and then the one before that.
But I digress. Uh what wasit? What was it? He he
jumped to the defense. Oh itwas lesbian space switches. Right, He's
like, well, yeah, butit's the Force is Given Birth to all

(50:13):
right, Fine, fine, fine, fine, you want to be an
apologist, we'll do The Acolyte.He hadn't watched it yet, and uh,
we're gonna talk about this stuff withStephen Kennedaedo five. So I'm not
gonna deep dive it. But Itold Ray, I'm like, all right,
all right, man, we'll goahead and watch it and then you
can explain to me about you know, uh, the tree cutting part,

(50:37):
the scene of it. They howyou can just you can lightly head butt
a lightsaber and break it rost.Did you know you could just head butt
a lightsaber? And yeah, Isaw that. Did you see the haircut
thing? I do? That's it. That was the thing that I hit
him with yesterday. And he's like, all right, I gotta watch it.
So I am so happy I brokeup with Star Wars, or it

(50:58):
broke up with me somewhere after seasonone of The Mandalorian. I haven't seen
anything after season one of The Mandaloria, and I'm so happy to avoid all
this yeah drama. Yeah. Solet's say hypothetically that there was think of
a who's a who's a really reallybad person you can think of in history

(51:20):
this, or think of two liketwo really bad people that universally nobody likes.
All right, Angel Hernandez, Right, what no, he is the
worst? All right, Angel Hernandezand Lebron James. Okay, right,
And let's say there you see Lebron'sall but hurt his kid getting didn't get
drafted first round anyway. So anyway, those two are there and they're you

(51:45):
know, they're awful, and uh, Lebron James or Angel Hernandez says,
hey, if you don't surrender,I'm going to do something to Lebron James,
who also is is a horrible personin this scenario, do you surrender
all of your weaponry? And becausethe bad guy threatened to kill the other

(52:07):
bad guy, so you're just like, nah, it's fine. There's so
many things and Stagic is going tohave to defend all that, so look
kind of looking forward to that.All right, here's the deal this is.
Remember when I said, hey,sometimes you just gotta pause and contemplate
stuff. I too noticed. Inoticed it when I was driving back from

(52:30):
Greensboro and after I was broadcasting therewas that two weeks ago we had the
vacation week, and I did seeit. But I was aware of what's
going on because there was a therewas a whole insane thing that happened in
Colorado, and that is the BUCkiesbillboard. Right. If those of you
who drive to and fro, ormaybe you live out and you know,

(52:55):
Memon or further out and you commuteinto the triangle or vice versa. But
you've seen the upside down BUCkies billboard. That's the thing, BUCkies. Does
you know why, because I'm talkingabout it on the radio right now and
you all are emailing me. Yeah, it's like it's like a Pedro thing.
Yeah. Why does your mic soundso different right now? Oh?

(53:17):
Okay, all right, Oh okay, I'm sorry. I didn't really I
touch around the air. Yes,yeah, pages Pedro have upside down billboards,
I guess, and they have wackybillboards. There's some companies that embrace
billboards. Pedro's would be a goodexample. Waldrug. How many of you
have driven across South Dakota. Holycrap, Holy crap, man, so

(53:42):
many billboards to the point where itwas fun. I was talking to one
guy, He's we really want togo to Waldrow Waldr. I got so
annoyed after the two hundred billboard,I might screw you. So you go
to the mitell Corn Palace. Thenyou watch the birds eat the bill That
is sort of like the natural progressionwhen you have one of those like campaigns,

(54:04):
like a payroll south of the Border, where at first you're like,
oh, that's interesting, I mightstop and check that out. And then
like after the five thousand billboard,you're like, screw this place. Yeah,
you form animosity for no reason,right, because they're just they're out
there just doing business, trying todo business. Not rational, but anyway.
Yeah, So they do upside downbillboards. And the reason I know

(54:25):
this is well, one, I'veseen them in other instances and I put
it together. But there so,they opened a BUCkies in Colorado, and
as you can imagine, a bunchof the same, just like we have
environmental moon bats over the one inMeban who basically got that project shut down

(54:45):
for years and other places, allright, because initially it was going to
be closer to the Triangle and theChapel Hill contingent assembled. But in Colorado
they somehow basically the moonbats got anarrative going that it was upside down because

(55:07):
whoever hung the billboard was on theirside, and it was like when you
hang an American flag upside down?I kid you dot, And they started
that narrative like even the person hangingthe billboard is so concerned that this gas
station is going to destroy our beautifulColorado. Uh, you know, nature

(55:29):
don't Texas or Colorado. You knowwhat, let me say this, Colorado
needs some texasing and and actually Texasneeds a little colorado ing. But but
yeah, and and like people justthought that was the narrative. I laughed
my butt off reading that. It'slike you did no research to determine that
that was. In fact, that'show they do it. And you know

(55:52):
what mission accomplished. Look at allthat they just got. And Ross has
talked glowingly about their bathrooms. Justyou know, there's things you can do
out there, all right, realquick before we get into the staging stuff.
Uh, I am the hot twohe meme is done. In fact,

(56:14):
I'm I'm canceling it. After Ihad to watch Whoopy Goldbird on the
View. When discussing Donald Trump,it would be remiss of us to not
say till Biden knows how to dothis. Yes, he knows how to

(56:35):
do this. He's he's quite goodat this. And you know, you
can't refute anything with him because hejust when I say him, I mean
Trump, he tends to just Butcan I mention one thing that was the
sound of Whoopy Goldberg doing doing aspitting she spit or did the uh you

(57:00):
know, as like the hok towygirl. So now in my mind,
hot tooy will be Goldberg. Associatedhow's your breakfast going? Everyone? Is
that good? You know? Thememes made it to Facebook too, which
is super scary because now you haveto explain it to like your mom and
your grandma. Yes, and bythe way, can you imagine you're whoever's

(57:23):
dating will be Goldberg? She pullsthat move and now half your body's covered
and partially chewed cake, So like, you don't want this, you don't
see that's with my mind. I'mlike daw and now it's done, so
we'll retire that all right. HereHe has raced agic from the Weather Channel

(57:43):
to defend haircuts with lightsabers, whichbreak when you head butt them. And
uh, why a good guy wouldsurrender because a bad guy threatened to kill
another bad guy? Well, haveyou seen the light yet? I I
thought you were gonna see a lot, a lot more of a haircut.
I mean that was just oh my, what do you want? Bart?

(58:05):
You want the movie barber Shop,but with lightsabers? I mean, what
is this? Uh? And Iwill say too, I was disappointed of
the unmasking of who that was.I was thinking Sidious or some other dark
Lord or somebody from the some morefamiliar type of lineage. And there was
a lot of lightsaber fighting in it, so that really kind of was there.

(58:27):
I couldn't see it. It wasall the way in the woods.
It's all the way over there.Yeah, it was so there there.
There there was a lot going onthere. There was a lot going on
there. But yeah, you are, you are, thank you, sir.
May I have another just yeah fromAnimal House? So that's fine,
that's fine. Yeah, I meanit was it was I thought, you
know, I thought you were talkinglike you know, like completely like shaved

(58:51):
off of the lightsaber. I meanyou kind of kind of stretched the imagination
there. What I did I didIn no way did I stretched the imagination.
I said that somebody gave them sellsa haircut with a lightsaber. It
was like accurate. No, youwere not, you were not. I
was. I was expecting more though, that That's all I'm saying. And
my expectations are usually like like afloaby saber or something like yeah oh yeah,

(59:13):
yeah, like almost like they werelike completely gonna go bald and like
ship just kind of do it thatway, not like one with that whip
saber. Huh yeah, that'd befun. Huh yeah, that was pretty
deep and everything. All right,go ahead and cook everybody before you get
out of mister staging. Sneaking offearly today, Yeah but uh yeah,

(59:36):
sneaking off and getting out just intime for the rain to come back.
Right. A few showers a couplearound town this morning. Uh, here
and there. Most of them havebeen north of the triangle, to the
west, some of the mountains.Try doing okay, clouds and some sun
storms will be back the nineties ornear ninety. You'll feel a little more
sticky with the heated next the nextfew days and may get back to the
mid nineties for someone so over theweekend and the scattered storms will be around.

(59:58):
So if you're going to be outin a bat eighes and ears to
the sky, humidity is really whatthe bigger change is, thus leading to
the uncomfortable heat and decease Triangle again, Heat advisory today. I'm gonna keep
rising the tropics. Do you havea wave comeing across the Atlantic? Seventy
percent chance of that developing in thenext seven days, and by this weekend
may become a depression or tropical storm, but still a long ways away.

(01:00:20):
And when I get back next weekon Tuesday, we'll still be talking about
it being probably in the Atlantic,So it looks like that's going to hold
together. I saw your colleagues excitedlyposting spaghetti this morning. Not as excited
though as the Padawan girl boss whowas able to defeat a Sith who was
able to take five trained Jedi knights, because that tracks you're just a hater,

(01:00:45):
all right, get out of here, Get out of here for you
to take care of guys. Yeah, yeah, right, that's the math.
Right. Remember that game Ross youtalked about that we had where you
could like, what would win onehundred jesus Is or ten thousand Roman soldiers?
Right, actually we know that one. But in this case it's five
trained Jedi knights, one Sith,and then in round two, one Sith

(01:01:08):
versus a Rando girl balls. Thisis why we make fun of it,
and to help us do it orto defend it. We'll see where he's
at. We're gonna chat with ourNERD correspondent Steven Kent coming up here at
eight oh five. So you don'twant to miss that. We got an

(01:01:28):
airport incident that we got to getinto and the what a burger insanity.
I'm gonna lay that out for youcoming up next. Hang on phone number
eight eight eight nine three four seveneight seven four. Keep that handy in
case you hear something that we're talkingabout with our guests with the button there.
Stephen Kent. I refer to himquite affectionately as our nerd correspondent and

(01:01:57):
space switch justifier. How you doingthis morning, Stephen? What's up man?
The space the space which justifier isdoing well? Good? Good,
Good to hear from you, ifit makes you feel okay. Our weather
guy like came a full throated defenseof acolytes, so he gets it on
a weekly basis. You should givehim a wedgie weggie and shove him in

(01:02:20):
a locker. No. I wasnot that guy, but I do play
one on the radio. I likethe nerd stuff. I just like the
stuff that has continuity. I don'tfeel like I'm being preached to. I
don't feel like they're bastardizing a productthat I've loved. I arguably you could.
It does create a certain amount oftoxicity, but nerd culture has always

(01:02:44):
had a certain amount of toxicity.You would agree with that, right,
Yeah, I would agree with that. And it's gotten particularly virulent since you
know the rise of YouTube commentary,and you know, if you want to
like basically get online and watch reviewsof given shows, particularly Star Wars,
you're watching performers who are modeling politicaltalk. You've got YouTube reviewers who are

(01:03:08):
just basically trying to be the bestSean Hannity, you know, or Tucker
Carlson but for nerd stuff. Andthen you've got people, particularly on Twitter
and other parts of YouTube, whoare trying to give their best joy read
and Rachel Maddow reviews of Star Wars. It's liberal and conservative and it's all
just people pretending to be political commentatorsand dragging Star Wars into it. Is

(01:03:32):
that on fans or is that onthe a I now, I'm not approaching
this as a scientist, but youwould have a hard time convincing me that
there are less political hot button issuesin today's we'll call it sci fi,

(01:03:52):
superhero genre, whatever you want tocall it, but that's not to say
that it didn't exist. You know, Star Trek is a good example,
right, the racial kiss and youhad you had a lot of stuff that
you know was was definitely political orat least top button for its day,
but you'd have a hard time convincingme that it was. It's not more
now, you know what I'm saying, because I think there are some people

(01:04:15):
who do, Like the people whowere doing Star Trek back in the day,
are Star Wars back in the day, we're doing it, and even
though there may have been politics inthere, their primary thing was I want
to tell this great story. Iwant people to love this thing that we've
created. Where I feel like whenI watched these interviews like with the with
the the Acolyte lady, I waswatching some of her clips, I feel
like she's in it, or thatDisney executive is like, we're gonna shoehorn

(01:04:39):
in, you know, any gaystorylines we can. I feel like that's
what they're in it for before theproduct. Is that unfair? No,
I don't think that that's unfair atall. I mean a lot of the
people who are rising to the topof the Disney chain, and we've heard
a lot of controversies out of Disneyjust in the past couple of day,

(01:05:00):
you know, is that these arepeople who prioritize activism over artistic expression,
or they try to roll the twothings together. This is all true,
but it just also happens to betrue that the media environment is one where
I think fans are going to creatorsand reviewers online and outsourcing their thinking on

(01:05:25):
shows to reviewers. It used tobe the case that people would watch a
show, they would discuss it aroundthe dinner table, maybe argue about it
at the water cooler when they wentto work. But they were having to
form and articulate their own opinions onwhat they saw on television. And when
I talked to Star Wars fans,particularly conservative Star Wars fans, they are
all repeating well known YouTubers who Iwatch their reviews as well, nerd ryme,

(01:05:48):
critical, drinker geeks and gamers.Yeah, and they are saying the
same things they said. And Igo, okay, I know what's YouTube
channels you watch? Because you're justrepeating someone else's review think for yourself.
Yeah, well, and we lookwe run into it here. In fact,
Ross and I were just having anall fair discussion about this where people
call in, and I asked myself, is I saw the same tweet?

(01:06:15):
Do you know what I'm saying becauseI you know, I didn't scroll that,
and it's like, but also Ibalance it with that is how they
feel, because it's who they areand it is their politics. But they're
not as good as Critical Drinker inputting together a way to express it.

(01:06:35):
And so it it validates a feelingthat they may have arrived at but weren't
able to verbalize as well as somebodywho does it professionally, like me or
you, right, we professionally,well, we like to think we do.
Sometimes I wonder how we're employed,but but you know, this is
what we do. And if peopleneed the words, are words or Critical

(01:06:59):
Drinker and it is how they feel? Is that really dishonest? That's a
wonderful point, and I'm gonna I'mgonna echo that. I think that that's
true. That is the role thatcommentary plays. It helps bring voice to
how people are feeling and put itin a coherent package. And that is
part of what we do for aliving. So you know, I'm not
gonna not gonna dunk on that atall. But jobs come out, Yeah,

(01:07:24):
I'll come out. I'll come outand show my cards. Though,
casey, I I don't like theAccolyte, the Accolade I have found to
be like really really low tier StarWars television. You know if The Mandalorian
is like an AMC level television show, and the Ahsoka Show and and or
like HBO or Showtime level. Youknow, this feels to me like ABC

(01:07:46):
team television free Form. I don'tknow if you've ever watched anything on there
had teenagers who watch the kind ofgarbage that's on Freeform TV, but this
show feels bottom tier. With theexception episode five, which premiered just a
couple of days ago this week,I have never seen a more insane light

(01:08:06):
shaber battle than the one that theyyeah for episode five, Well you didn't
see it. You saw it likethrough the trees, like for a little
while. Yeah, for a littlewhile like that. And and look,
people are going to fixate on thehaircut, and I like to make fun
of that. But you know what, the thing that will kill something for

(01:08:26):
me, and I'm a horror fan, so I run into this all the
time is I don't understand your decision, not you, but but the character
in there. Like if if twobad guys and one starting to kill the
other one and you're the good guy. Do you surrender? Right? You
have to convince me that that's theright thing to do. And I want
to say, I want to sayone other thing. I agree with you

(01:08:48):
that I think people should also givethings a critical thinking. And I'll give
you an example. Did you seethe photo of the new Clark Kent that
was No, I'm not Oh,I'm sorry, uh, Ross it's on
our Twitter. Will you? Willyou send that to Steven want to talking
to him to scroll down? Andposted it last night? Oh, I'm

(01:09:09):
sorry, Uh, there was.They have a photo of the new Clark
Kent from who is it Zack Snyder'sdoing? Who's doing that? Who's directing
the new Superman movie? Where theydidn't need Henry Cavill anymore? Is that's
I think it's James gun Yeah,it's right, James Gunner was Snyder and
that's going to gun all right.So so and so here's the thing you
look at. My initial reaction washe's got like the he's got like the

(01:09:31):
it doesn't look like Clark Kent.That that you know that in my mind,
Henry Cavell did. And of course, uh, you know back in
the day, christ uh I whoby the way, who's your favorite Superman?
Oh? I think I would haveto go with Henry Cavell. Yeah,
okay, all right? And andI saw this and my initial reaction

(01:09:55):
is, what's up with broccolihead here? What are we doing? Yeah?
Ross just texted it to you.That was my initial reaction. But then
I gave it a think. Ithought about it a little, and I
said, you know what, that'sClark Kent. I have to see what
Superman looks like because for all ofthese years it was Clark Kent's glasses,

(01:10:16):
did all the right, did allthe disguising, to the point that it
was a trope and ready player oneand and and so if he is trying
to be Clark Kent on one sideand Superman on the other, and Superman
looks like Superman, maybe my initialreaction isn't fair. What do you think
when you look at that picture?Does that scream? Does that like Clark

(01:10:38):
Kent to you? I've never seenClark Kent with curly hair? This is
this is this is a strange one. I'm almost I'm almost not even convinced
that we're supposed to take it seriously, like it's it's just a shot from
a movie. We haven't seen yet, like maybe he's maybe he's wearing a
wig. TI. Yeah, Iwas about to say, see where wig?

(01:11:00):
And then he takes it off tobecome Superman, does he? Well,
he's in the phone booth. Heputs the hair gel and slicks it.
Ba is it with the lights?Oh my god? Yeah, to
mock the haircut. When I thinkabout Superman though, actually, actually I
should probably say that I actually reallylike Brandon Ruth as Superman when he did

(01:11:24):
Superman Returns in two thousand and six, because my favorite Superman movie of all
time is with Kevin Spacey as LexLuthor Superman Returns. That was that was
for me, the peak of Supermanmovies. And you know, I don't
know. I've just found always Supermanto be such a bland character. Like
as a hero, I think anybodycan play him relatively well. Would you?

(01:11:47):
Would you disagree? It depends whatyou're trying to get out of it.
Look, Batman and Superman have beenaround so long in pop culture that
people can equally like the Bam pooBlam Batman and the Nolan Batman, right
and you and which are nothing tolike? Right, So people are willing

(01:12:12):
to evolve and see different versions ofit, as long as you're putting out
a product that is considered a qualityproduct at the time. So you know,
there's big names attached, and theidea that maybe he does go into
the booth and his uh, youknow, his alien hair pops straight.
What Who the hell knows? ButI will tell you this, If he's
buff, if he's buzzing around ina cape and with laser eyes and he's

(01:12:35):
got that do on, I'm outbecause it just doesn't work for me.
I think he needs a Jerry Curl. I don't even want to. Are
you like coming to America soul glowkind of stuff for me? What are
you looking? Yeah, yeah,Superman, Superman new age, Jerry Curl,

(01:12:55):
you know, round glasses. Itcould be it could be a real
hit. What do he needs?Are those glasses that really really really smart
feminists wear and all the interview shows, you know, the blocky, chunky
things. So Leslie head Lindy cango on TV and say, well Superman's

(01:13:15):
always been really gay. Well andthat's the other thing too, uh And
you see you saw it not justin who was it was? What was
what's her name? From the Cosbyshow the young who was saying that who
is a lesbian by the way,Yeah, Raven Simone was. I saw
her being interviewed, and she isa lesbian. But it was interesting because

(01:13:38):
she said that producers wanted to makeher character gay, and she pushed back,
uh, you know, why didshe do that? She just she
she said, this is the characterand and that just because it's part of
my identity doesn't necessarily mean it needsto work here. And I think she
kind of felt like they thought thatshe would just snap into line because she

(01:14:00):
is a lesbian, when in realityshe's like, no, I want I
want this to be a character thatpeople like. And that's interesting. Yeah,
no, I found that very interesting. But and then I just got
sidetracked as to where I was going. But you know, the fact is
that the retroactive reassigning of things thatare you know, a little hot buttony,

(01:14:24):
a little political like even you know, I know she is the the
is is now hated among the veryprogressives out there. But she did not
serve she did not do any serviceto herself when the author of the Harry
Potter books is out there retroactively assigningsexual preference to characters only to find herself

(01:14:45):
now cut off because she has opinionsabout women in sports. Right, That's
the stuff that I think draws peopleand drives people to go. You know
what, that Scottish dude who's probablygot a drinking problem, he's also got
figured out, or it's a Gundamor Nerdrotic or any of the rest people
I think are going to seek Look, it's like anything else you seek out

(01:15:09):
on and it's not a good thingto only do it, but we seek
out in many cases and gravitate towardspeople who tend to agree with us because
they verbalize what it is we think, Yeah, I think it's true.
And I think the one thing Iwould caution to anybody listening to this who
loves, you know, watching StarWars and sci fi and fantasy stories,

(01:15:30):
is when you're going out and seekingout a review, you need to consider
the words of the author Upton Sinclair, who has this really great quote,
and it says it is difficult toget a man to understand something when his
salary depends upon not understanding it.You could apply this to a lobbyist.

(01:15:50):
You can't convince a lobbyist for industryto argue against the industry that they represent.
That is not their job. Andif you have an audience on YouTube
and your entire audience is based aroundnot liking things, being angry about Disney,
or criticizing things, there's no financialincentive for you to gush or enjoy

(01:16:12):
anything that you ever watch. Youcan't get someone to understand something when their
salary depends on not understanding it.I you know, a lot of people
will say that they're done, they'llcut off all Disney products, or they'll
cut off all, you know,insert whatever the company is. And the
reality is, I think that youcan go out and you can find stuff
that works, especially with a legacycompany like that. There's so much good,

(01:16:34):
high quality entertainment over the years thatDisney arguably the most. Would you
agree that Disney has been the mostinfluential entertainment company in in you know,
modern history, in the world,perhaps, but at least in the United
States. I would yeah, easily. Yeah, because you're getting to miss

(01:16:55):
kids, you know, you're gettingto them as kids, and you're creating
lifelong consumers. So I think consumerscan go and you know, and pick
and choose, like a smorcasboard overthere, But you know, I don't
know that I would criticize people whoare upset with the current crop, because
that's like the natural that's the nationalor the natural evolution for most consumers.

(01:17:15):
Right, you grow older and you'relike kids these days you like what you
used to like. So I justgot about thirty seconds. I was going
to go in a different direction,but unfortunately we're out of time. Well,
good conversation, man, You're gonnakeep watching it so we can keep
doing this. I will. Iwill keep watching any Star Wars they put
out and try to be fair mindedabout it. Yeah, all right,

(01:17:38):
very good, Steven Kent. Thankyou very much, sir, do appreciate
it. We'll chat next week,okay with you. I see what you
did there, all right? Well, oh and then I just hung up
about him. I didn't mean to. Actually was gonna put them on hold.
But that's okay. We'll chat withSteven again next week. All right.
We got a lot to get toin the final final moments of the
show, so hang on. Allright. So you guys know the chain?

(01:18:01):
What a burger right, Texas basedout of Texas. You ever eating
at a Whateburger or else? Youever eat at a Whataburger. Uh,
nope, no, okay, wedon't have any in North Carolina kind of
yet, but the chain is theyhave plans. They're expanding now into the
state of North Carolina. But they'reall over the place. But North Carolina

(01:18:24):
has something that's kind of unique.North Carolina has What a Burgers, but
not those Whataburgers. They have Whata Burger thirteen, which there is a
there's a bunch of what used tobe part of one local or regional chain,

(01:18:47):
this Whataburger thirteen, although now someof those locations over the years have
gone to different owners. But youknow, the Whataburger moniker persists. Well.
As the Texas Whataburger moves into NorthCarolina, they have decided to sue

(01:19:08):
the What a Burger Thirteen's basically sayingthat there'll be consumer confusion. You can't
do that, And we saw thatstory initially. That wasn't too surprising to
me, although I would point outthat let's see here, I want to
make sure I have the dates rightwhen you go back, and you have

(01:19:30):
to go back to the nineteen fifties. These are both very old restaurants,
and actually it was let's see here, nineteen fifty seven, when the Texas
based Whataburger applied for and receive federaltrademark rights, So that's what you're going

(01:19:53):
to base on this part of yourlawsuit off of They then open their first
out of state location, which isan important thing when you're trying to figure
this out because it's if you're injust one state and then you cross over
into another state, it kind ofchanges the game. So with that in
mind, the first what a Burgerin North Carolina actually predates that federal trademark,

(01:20:23):
and in fact, there was actuallyone in Virginia two that predated it,
though not owned by the same Sotechnically you're dealing with three entities there.
Let's see here the first Whataburger againtrademark nineteen fifty seven. The first

(01:20:45):
what a Burger North Carolina traces itsroots to Kannapolis in nineteen fifty six,
so a year before, and thenthey had multiple I think they had fifteen
locations at one point. Now,the moniker what a Burger thirteen didn't go
into use until sixty nine, wherethey added the but was still a derivative
of so there's a little complexity toit. But the point is that both

(01:21:11):
started around the same time both wereexpanding, but it was the Texas one
that went and got the federal trademarkand they never did business in North Carolina.
And we found out that they actuallyhad a confidential agreement basically, and
we don't know the totality of what'sin it, but what a Burger Texas
and what a Burger North Carolina previouslysat down a number of years ago and

(01:21:35):
put together, you know, anagreement that they were both satisfied with.
And I don't know the details,but I'm sure it had to do with
where you can advertise, what youcan call products, things like that,
and that's not unusual because it's notreally it's not necessarily a good pub for

(01:21:56):
the big company. So if you'renot even doing business in a state going
over and so do you remember whenthe Monster was it the cable they made
like the stereo cables, and theywent around and just decided to sue anything
with the word monster in it.Everybody thought that they It literally crushed any

(01:22:17):
positive vibes for that company. AndI say, you can't just sue somebody
because they have the word monster somewherein their name and arguably have been in
business longer than you. So theNorth Carolina What a Burger claims that actually
the Texas one violated the terms ofthe agreement in twenty twenty two, but
they took no action, which ifyou take no action, that in and

(01:22:42):
of itself is kind of a legalquagmire too, because you're putting up with
something you know to be wrong,and there are timelines that judges are going
to look at. However, itwas at the end of last year when
Whataburger, Texas, who had announcedplans to move into North Carolina, all
of us sudden said, well,What a Burger North Carolina violated the terms

(01:23:03):
of our agreement, and now we'resuing. And at What a Burger thirteen
said, well, you guys violatedit two years ago, and we just
let by guns be byguns. Sonow they're coming in and I don't know,
it's just not a good look,man, when you're trying to break
into a state and your opening volleyis to sue mom and pops because they're

(01:23:30):
not all owned by the same peoplethey Oh, and by the way,
that the agreement with What a Burgerdates back to nineteen seventy, this agreement,
so they were living in peace foryou know, fifty some years and
now as you're coming into the state, you want to sue mom and pop

(01:23:50):
businesses because again some of these areowned like where they own one or two,
especially around Charlotte. I think thatVigil only owns two. You're going
to irritate people because we're protectionist.It feels like you're a big company coming

(01:24:10):
into a very, very filled market. And North Carolina was always a very
interesting burger market. There's a reasonburger companies didn't come to North Carolina.
And if you haven't been here formore than fifteen years, how many of
you remember the burger hamburger laws inNorth Carolina more than ten years ago?

(01:24:33):
Ross do you remember? Do youremember that from I think it's faded into
into the past for people. NorthCarolina used to have a law that prohibited
and I'm probably not going to getone hundred percent accurate, but prohibited being
able to name the temperature of howyou want your burger cooked. So there

(01:24:55):
was it was very There were acouple other things. And so if you're
running a burger joint where even ifyou're using high quality beef and you didn't
you couldn't serve a medium rare burger. Well that is, that's heresy to
some people who are really into burgers, and it kept different companies from entering
the market here. Well, thathasn't existed for over a decade. They

(01:25:17):
got rid of that, and soit has expanded greatly. You got five
guys, came in a variety ofothers. So, if you want to
enter this busy, busy product sectorand your first act is to financially go
after a company that has been establishedas long as you or at least predates

(01:25:40):
your trademark, you just look likea big bully sewing momded pop companies and
I for the life, And youdon't understand this. Now, I checked
out. I checked out both theirmenus and look, are there burgers and
are there different derivatives of burgers thatyou expect to see at a burger joint,
like a bacon cheeseburger. Yes,you can get a bacon cheeseburger at

(01:26:02):
both of them. Does that meanone's copying the other? Hell no,
you get a bacon cheese a baconcheeseburger. Damn near any place that sells
bacon cheese and burgers. So Idon't feel that this is going to be
overly positive. However, we gota lot of transplants who maybe lived where
Whataburger was, and people like Whataburger, like Whataburger, So we'll see.

(01:26:25):
All right. It is eight fortyfour Acoda radio program and Race stag It
from the Weather Channel is standing by. Do your things or a couple pop
up showers, Casey. This morning, most of the steadier light rain is
out into the mountains off to ournortheast, up near Virginia Beach. But
that's even starting to move off shoreif it hasn't already. But do you

(01:26:45):
have a hit advisory? Once again? It's the humidity low nineties. Will
feel close to or over one hundredtoday, so take it easy if you
are going to be outdoors, andthe rain chances will continue to be scattered
around here for Friday at even theupcoming weekend. I think at one point
or another everybody gets at least alittle bit of rayfall. We did need
it, as we did see somelow levels of drought developing with the latest
drought monitor. Gonna be hot,sticky though over the weekend a little bit

(01:27:08):
nineties I'll probably failing close to ormaybe even over one hundred at times,
especially Casey around the triangle. Allright, thank you, sir, and
we'll be back. We're gonna chatwith Jeff Bellinger. Also, you've heard
of swatting, right, that's wheresomebody's you know, usually it's like video
game associate doesn't have to be butwhere for what you know, somebody will

(01:27:30):
call in because they get the locationof somebody that they're playing against, or
somebody who's doing a I guess astream from their house and they'll say,
hey, I'm calling from inside thehouse. They've taken his hostage three or
dead, and then you know,here comes the swat team. Right,
It's wildly dangerous. There have beenpeople killed, I believe in it was
it Oklahoma City or Kansas City orOklahoma City where you actually had somebody killed

(01:27:54):
and the irony was wasn't even thehouse they were trying to swat because they
got the address mixed up. Soit's really dangerous. But it's also very
impersonal. And let's just say thisdude went in a different direction. So
all that more coming up and JeffBellinger next, Hang on, Good morning,
Casey. Stocks moved a little bithigher yesterday, but the futures are

(01:28:15):
all lower, right, across theboard. At this hour. S and
P futures are down two, Nasdaqfutures down ten, the Dow futures are
down eighty seven points. Just gota couple of reports from Washington. Demand
for expensive manufactured goods ticked higher lastmonth. The government says orders for durable
goods rose a tenth of a percent. Another report says new applications for unemployment

(01:28:38):
benefits fell last week by six thousandto two hundred and thirty three thousand.
The latest quarter was a rough onefor Walgreens, the drug store chains.
Profit fell short to forecasts. Walgreenscut its earnings guidance for the year and
said it will be closing more underperformingstores and making some organizational changes. Shares
of Levi Strauss moved lower after hoursyesterday. The Dunam clothing maker posted a

(01:29:01):
quarterly profit the top forecasts, butLevi sales fell short. A lot of
American families feel they're falling behind thecost of living. A quarterly survey by
Primerica finds that two thirds of middleincome families are not feeling the effects of
economic improvement in their pocketbooks. Thatperception is impacting household habits. Four out

(01:29:21):
of five respondents say they are eatingat home more often because of a combination
of budget concerns and higher restaurant prices. The LGBTQ dating app Grinders making some
changes. The app will widen itsfocus to serve a growing number of users
looking for long term relationships, notjust casual dates. And Amazon dot COM's

(01:29:42):
launching a discount web store. Casethe company outlined its plans and slides posted
to websites for third party Chinese sellers. Low priced apparel and home products will
be shipped directly to customers from China. Casey, well they have slaves doing
that too, or just make itnothing like that? Included in the news
room. Okay, all right,but question consumers should wonder about. Thank

(01:30:06):
you very much, Jeff, takecare there you go. I feel like
Jeff wanted to be dragging him intothat, but it is the logical response.
Hey, let me ask you guysa question. Ross. If Buffalo
Bill's ownership started trying to murder thefans, would that have you question your
relationship as a Bills fan? Iwould frown upon that. Yes, yeah,

(01:30:30):
you know, you'd want to knowmore about it, obviously, but
it wouldn't be a good look,you would agree, right, correct.
Yeah, so the Boston Red Soxtried to drown their fans. What I
mean, honestly, I'm not surprised. No first heard of it, but
not surprised. Yeah. So youknow, there was a big, big,
old rainstorm went through actually put quitea few games on display or on

(01:30:53):
old Wednesday Night, including Mets Yankees. Do they got what do you guys
call that subway series or whatever?So that's its own thing because the Mets
are like all about Grimace for somereason. The McDonald's character, I guess
it's kind of become not that McDonald'sprobably cared, but unofficial mascot, which

(01:31:15):
is arguably is that better or worsethan the Big Baseball I don't know,
But what was a funny moment emergedfrom that where the Grimace throughout the first
pitch and they had the rain delay, and then there's video of you know,
the person in the Grimace costume chugginga beer like not on the field

(01:31:36):
or anything, but kind of offto the side of the concourse and people
are like, oh my gosh,you're gonna hurt McDonald's brand. And I'm
like, his friend is a careercriminal, right, all he does is
steals stuff and the other one hauntschildren's It's gonna be fine. Meanwhile,
up in Boston, though I don'tknow if you know this, the stadium

(01:31:58):
up there has some clearly has somesome maintenance issues. And so what transpired
as people attempted to get out ofthe rain by moving into the concourse,
so down lower if you're been toFenway, it's it's constructed like a lot
of the stadiums where you're not you'renot fully enclosed, and and so as

(01:32:20):
people were moving down, they're thinkingthey're getting out of the elements. It
became incredibly clear that the drainage systemat Fenway Park is absolutely broken. And
so folks who were getting to lowerground think it would be fine that then
found themselves having to contend with waterfallsof now stacking water at Fenway, and

(01:32:43):
there's you know, there's videos ofthem trying to flee from that. So
I'm not I don't own a majorleague sports team, but you probably shouldn't
try to murder your fans. That'smy that's my pro tip for the more
and check this out. You've heardof swatting video game or a live stream,

(01:33:05):
you want to interrupt, maybe becausethey're saying something you don't agree with,
except you're too stupid to argue acounterpoints. So you call and you
make a fake hostage call or whatever, and people show up. Politicians get
swatted. We've had members of Congress. It happens too. Oh, now
I got Boston. They weren't tryingto drown them, all right. Well,

(01:33:27):
look, imagine if a child wouldjust stumble down there. Yeah,
I think she's on a water slideright now. All of a sudden,
he's bouncing off the concrete stairs threelevels down in Yeah, but you know,
apologize for that. So anyway,swatting, But swatting's very impersonal,
right because half the time they can'tfigure out who's done it, and really
the only people in danger obviously werethe people in the house. To this

(01:33:49):
day, I'm assuming the police haveconversations about this, but I understand it's
rock and a hard place, butsomething's got to happen. Well, twenty
year old Edward Kang, he decidedhe was he wasn't going to be lazy
and just swatched somebody. So theindividual who had had a rival playing video

(01:34:12):
games got so upset that he boardeda plane from New Jersey, landed in
Florida, where in Nassau County,where he knew this guy lived, drove
to his house with a hammer attwo in the morning to attack him.
That's personal, that right, Thatis I don't know the work ethic there.

(01:34:34):
Obviously the dude's insane, but thework ethic, I don't say you
have to admire, but you atleast have to note the difference, right,
So you probably shouldn't do that.By the way,