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Speaker 1 (00:00):
An ongoing investigation into the officer involved shooting the other day,
and Chief Schmater joins us for a few minutes this morning.
Omaha Police Chief TODs Matter Todd, good morning, Good to
have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, good morning Gary, Good morning to all the KFAB listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You bet we had the report earlier that you've made
the decision now on the body warn cameras. Right, they're
going to be up on the helmets.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I did. I gave the order the other day that
we're going to move the body worn cameras to the helmets. Look,
it's not going to be a caroll. We still have
potential obstructions, but I want to give us our best
opportunity to see what goes on during all the warrants
we serve. And obviously that's that's an issue with this
current one is I don't have no video because of
(00:48):
the shield blocked at all.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Right, Uh, give us almost all of us are not
in law enforcement. Give us an idea of how how
this actually works. I mean, you're talking about special operations
where helmets are in are worn, right, but what about
just running the mail traffic stops. I assume they'll still
be on the chest, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
The officers you see drive around in a regular police
car with a regular uniform, they're going to keep those
body worn cameras on their chests and that's that's worked
very good for the Omaha Police Department, one of the
first cities in the country to go to full body
worn camera deployment. Our swat team is a little bit different.
We we had those affixed to the chest and a
(01:31):
lot of a lot of times that was good enough.
But on this incident, the hallway was so small that
the shield blocked it completely, and then the officers behind
their body cameras did not pick it up either, just
because of the condensity less than three feet of that hallway.
So to try to overcome that, we're going to buy
(01:52):
some special equipment to put it on top of the helmet, right,
and you know, we serve a lot of a lot
of warrants. Gary, this is a pretty rare situation that
took place, but I want to react to it. I
want to make sure that we make the proper changes
in the aftermath, because it's hard to make an informed
decision on such a gray area when you don't have
(02:13):
the video.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, you have, I think a great track record of
you don't put up with bad cops on your force.
And so the family and this person that's speaking for
them is calling for the firing of this officer and
so on. And I'm sure there's a lot about the
investigation that you can't talk about on the radio. But
(02:35):
what are the kind of things given the lack of
video evidence, what are the kind of things you're taking
into consideration?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right? Let me let me just kind of give you
what's next type of situation. So the first, the first
phase was the criminal investigation. The officer came in with
his attorney and interviewed criminally, and that that's a different threshold,
and I understand Don Klein will have some thoughts on
that at some point. The second phase for me is
the internal affairs investigations. And that's where I will see,
(03:04):
did you follow the policies and procedures and the training
of the Omahall Police Department. Did what take place there
conformed to our training or where we prescribed in training
in a different manner to address the threat that the
officer claims to have seen. And when I when I
say claim, I put no one way or other on
(03:25):
that statement. I am truly looking for the information at
this point in time, but there is a there is
an overlay of our policies, procedures and training and what's
supposed to be done under certain circumstances. Is the need
to be explained to me that it was done according
to our training and policies on this situation. That will
(03:46):
be very be very, very very detailed. We'll get into
spatial distances, we'll get in the training, we'll get into
reaction time, We'll get into everything in this internal affairs investigation.
It'll be very in depth.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And assume maybe I shouldn't that you can take into
consideration the officer Bail's track record a seventeen year vetrun right,
and and his general demeanor as an officer.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, I mean all that's all that's taken into consideration.
But the moment, really, the moment of time that we're
going to be looking at real, real strongly, is that
moment of time when the weapon was fired and why.
And we're going to get into everything I just said,
and it's it's it's a very it's very in depth situation,
(04:34):
and I need to feel comfortable in the aftermath.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Indeed, do you have any kind of timeline at all
as far as uh, when you'll conclude the investigation and
can talk more about what the what the outcome is.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, we haven't. I'm looking at starting the internal affairs
investigation here very shortly. I mean we did, we did
just get done with the the criminal aspect of things.
We still have a few things lingering on that as well,
such as the tok screen and a few other stuff.
But as soon as I can get a good handle
on that completion will segue into the internal affairs investigation.
(05:11):
And you know, I can't give you a timeframe on that,
but when when we come to conclusion on it, I'll
definitely let the public know, let the family know, let
the media know so they can speak to the public
for us.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Very good, Chief, appreciate the time always.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All right, thanks Gary, be back.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Good to have you on my police Chief Dodge moder
An ongoing investigation into the officer involved shooting the other day,
and Chief Schmater joins us for a few minutes this morning.
Omaha Police Chief TODs Matter Todd, good morning, Good to
have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey, good morning Gary, Good morning to all the KFAB listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You bet we had the report earlier that you've made
the decision now on the body warn cameras. Right, they're
going to be up on the helmets.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I did. I gave the order the other day that
we're going to move the body worn cameras to the helmets. Look,
it's not going to be a caroll. We still have
potential obstructions, but I want to give us our best
opportunity to see what goes on during all the warrants
we serve. And obviously that's that's an issue with this
current one is I don't have no video because of
(00:48):
the shield blocked at all.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Right, Uh, give us almost all of us are not
in law enforcement. Give us an idea of how how
this actually works. I mean, you're talking about special operations
where helmets are in are worn, right, but what about
just running the mail traffic stops. I assume they'll still
be on the chest, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
The officers you see drive around in a regular police
car with a regular uniform, they're going to keep those
body worn cameras on their chests and that's that's worked
very good for the Omaha Police Department, one of the
first cities in the country to go to full body
worn camera deployment. Our swat team is a little bit different.
We we had those affixed to the chest and a
(01:31):
lot of a lot of times that was good enough.
But on this incident, the hallway was so small that
the shield blocked it completely, and then the officers behind
their body cameras did not pick it up either, just
because of the condensity less than three feet of that hallway.
So to try to overcome that, we're going to buy
(01:52):
some special equipment to put it on top of the helmet, right,
and you know, we serve a lot of a lot
of warrants. Gary, this is a pretty rare situation that
took place, but I want to react to it. I
want to make sure that we make the proper changes
in the aftermath, because it's hard to make an informed
decision on such a gray area when you don't have
(02:13):
the video.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, you have, I think a great track record of
you don't put up with bad cops on your force.
And so the family and this person that's speaking for
them is calling for the firing of this officer and
so on. And I'm sure there's a lot about the
investigation that you can't talk about on the radio. But
(02:35):
what are the kind of things given the lack of
video evidence, what are the kind of things you're taking
into consideration?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Right? Let me let me just kind of give you
what's next type of situation. So the first, the first
phase was the criminal investigation. The officer came in with
his attorney and interviewed criminally, and that that's a different threshold,
and I understand Don Klein will have some thoughts on
that at some point. The second phase for me is
the internal affairs investigations. And that's where I will see,
(03:04):
did you follow the policies and procedures and the training
of the Omahall Police Department. Did what take place there
conformed to our training or where we prescribed in training
in a different manner to address the threat that the
officer claims to have seen. And when I when I
say claim, I put no one way or other on
(03:25):
that statement. I am truly looking for the information at
this point in time, but there is a there is
an overlay of our policies, procedures and training and what's
supposed to be done under certain circumstances. Is the need
to be explained to me that it was done according
to our training and policies on this situation. That will
(03:46):
be very be very, very very detailed. We'll get into
spatial distances, we'll get in the training, we'll get into
reaction time, We'll get into everything in this internal affairs investigation.
It'll be very in depth.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And assume maybe I shouldn't that you can take into
consideration the officer Bail's track record a seventeen year vetrun right,
and and his general demeanor as an officer.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well, I mean all that's all that's taken into consideration.
But the moment, really, the moment of time that we're
going to be looking at real, real strongly, is that
moment of time when the weapon was fired and why.
And we're going to get into everything I just said,
and it's it's it's a very it's very in depth situation,
(04:34):
and I need to feel comfortable in the aftermath.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Indeed, do you have any kind of timeline at all
as far as uh, when you'll conclude the investigation and
can talk more about what the what the outcome is.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, we haven't. I'm looking at starting the internal affairs
investigation here very shortly. I mean we did, we did
just get done with the the criminal aspect of things.
We still have a few things lingering on that as well,
such as the tok screen and a few other stuff.
But as soon as I can get a good handle
on that completion will segue into the internal affairs investigation.
(05:11):
And you know, I can't give you a timeframe on that,
but when when we come to conclusion on it, I'll
definitely let the public know, let the family know, let
the media know so they can speak to the public
for us.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Very good, Chief, appreciate the time always.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
All right, thanks Gary, be back.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Good to have you on my police Chief Dodge moder
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