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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nebraska Secretary of State Bob Evnon back to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Bob, good morning, Good morning, Gary's going to be with you.
It's interesting to hear to hear Jim comment on how
thick therf was somewhere while he's talking on a fifty
thousand radio.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Well, there was no problem here in the radio. Yeah,
you can hear the radio trying to get to your
trying to upload that picture of your cat on Facebook. Yeah,
was probably a little more challenging Saturday night than usual.
You remember, we wanted to talk to Bob because you
remember this I thought pretty explosive story out of Texas.
A couple of weeks ago, the Governor Abbott announced that
(00:37):
since he signed the Senate they're one of their Senate
bills in the law down there, the state has removed
more than one million ineligible voters from his voter rolls
and found that thirty percent of non citizens previously cast ballots.
And Bob, when this story broke, I got a lot
of feedback, Hey, how about Nebraska. How do we make
sure that only eligible listens vote here? What's say you?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, we took a look at the categories that were
laid out in the news release from Texas two weeks ago.
That yielded this one point one million number. We have
removed one hundred and seven thousand voters in those same categories.
(01:23):
So in Texas they removed one point one million over
a four year period of time. We removed one hundred
and seven thousand over a two year period of Time's
let's make that apples to apples. That's six point one
percent of the number of registered voters in Texas. Six
point one percent over four years. We've removed eight point
six eight point six percent over two years. So we're
(01:47):
paying attention. We're doing our job.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Here, excellent. Several listeners asked me to ask you some
specific things. I think these are good questions. How did
Nebraska driver's licenses issue to citizens and to illegal aliens
differ in Nebraska? This is from Brian.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, the DMV does not issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens.
The DMV issues driver's licenses to aliens who have registration
with the government of a certain status. And I guess,
you know, you could say they're illegals in the sense
that the doc of kids. Maybe I am overstating, because
(02:30):
it is it's clear that they're lawfully here. They're probably
not lawfully here and they're getting driver's licenses. But the
point is the DMV knows the difference. So now and
you go into the DMV, you have to demonstrate your
status citizen or non citizen, and if you're not a citizen,
you have to demonstrate your status to see whether you're
qualified under Nebraska statutes to get a driver's license. That
(02:51):
division between citizens and non citizens that has to be
shown when you get a driver's license or an ID.
That's what we use. That's one of the components of
what we use to determine citizenship in our voter registration VOTs.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Right, but if they're here legally can get a driver's license,
but are still not eligible to vote. So what is
there a designation on the license? So the pollar worker, there's.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No obvious designation on the license. The numbering is different.
But the point is that the DMV teaps the data separate.
So if we and we use, the DMV shares their
data with us, so we can get access to the
DMV data and find out through that data who is
a non citizen. They keep track of that all, right,
(03:40):
and we use that DMV. We use that DMV data
registration database in our latest voter history voter file, and
those are the three databases we use. The DMV database
which shows who is a non citizen, voter registration database
which show who's registered to vote in our state, and
(04:02):
the latest voter History voter file, which shows who's actually
cast ballots.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So if someone is who's here illegally and has a
license but is not eligible to vote votes, you catch
that after the fact by checking the database.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, you can. You catch it after the fact. It's
also that the DMB does not forward those to us
for registration purposes, but it provides us after the fact.
We ran this last week, So can I I'm sorry
to do this at seven twenty in the morning or
at any time, because I'm going to talk a few numbers.
(04:42):
Can I do that?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yep? Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
We had over three hundred and forty six thousand people
cast ballots in the primary. We had over three hundred
and forty six thousand voters cast ballots in the primary.
Ninety nine point seven percent of those voters we have
confirmed that they are US citizens.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We've confirmed that that ninety nine point seven percent of
our voters who cast ballots in the primary out of
these three hundred and forty six thousand ballots cast, they
were cast by citizens. Now that leaves a little over
one thousand people. Well for all but ninety three of them,
we don't have the data. See, so we run into
(05:25):
a data problem, and that's one of the things that
we're focusing on and trying to solve. Because I you know,
it's ninety nine point seven, that's great. I'd like us
to be at ninety nine point ninety nine. If you
take a look at if you take a look at
the total regilations, we have one million, two hundred and
(05:46):
forty one thousand Nebraskans registered to vote, and ninety eight
point seven percent of those we've confirmed are US citizens.
Ninety eight point seven percent of our one point two
four to one million registered voters we've confirmed with citizens. Okay,
(06:07):
so what about the rest. We don't have good data
on the rest. That's our problem is we're lacking data.
Now there are there is a category of registrates who
I'm who are number one on my list of concerns.
We have two hundred eighty two registered voters in the
state who registered to vote and subsequently told the DMV
(06:32):
that they are not a citizen, and that order is important.
There are two hundred and eighty two registered voters on
our roles out of our one point two four million,
two hundred eighty two registered voters on our roles who
registered to vote and subsequently told the DMV that they're
not a citizen. Of those two hundred eighty two registrants
(06:54):
whose registration is questionable because of what I just said,
forty six of them have actually cast ballots in any
election since they registered. So you're talking about forty six
people in this category who have actually cast ballots out
of the two hundred and eighty two who are registered. Now,
I'm going to be talking with the Attorney General's office
(07:17):
later this week because what we want to do now
is to investigate those two hundred and eighty two registrates.
And I want to talk with the Attorney General and
the statutes required anyway, but that's fine, I mean, that's
what you would do. I'm going to talk with the
Attorney General about how do we undertake an investigation into
(07:38):
those registrates.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Very good, quickly we're.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Going to be moving forward very good.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, I want to stay in touch on that too,
But also a couple other questions. Can you please ask
Bob how we are ensuring that ballots are not going
out to people who have passed away.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, we we've taken in the last two years, we've
taken over twenty four thousand registrants off the roles who
are deceased who passed away. The way that we do
it is we have a number of different sources that
we check in order to take de ceased voters off
(08:19):
the list, and we get that information from a variety
of sources. But we're watching that and we use obituaries,
we use Social Security and there are other databases as
well for taking people off after they've passed away.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Very good, Bob, I'm way along here, but I got
another great question from a lady. I'm going to forward
this to you via email so we can not ignore
that question. But for now, I got to move. I
appreciate the time so much. Always
Nebraska Secretary of State Bob Evnon back to the program.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Bob, good morning, Good morning, Gary's going to be with you.
It's interesting to hear to hear Jim comment on how
thick therf was somewhere while he's talking on a fifty
thousand radio.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Well, there was no problem here in the radio. Yeah,
you can hear the radio trying to get to your
trying to upload that picture of your cat on Facebook. Yeah,
was probably a little more challenging Saturday night than usual.
You remember, we wanted to talk to Bob because you
remember this I thought pretty explosive story out of Texas.
A couple of weeks ago, the Governor Abbott announced that
(00:37):
since he signed the Senate they're one of their Senate
bills in the law down there, the state has removed
more than one million ineligible voters from his voter rolls
and found that thirty percent of non citizens previously cast ballots.
And Bob, when this story broke, I got a lot
of feedback, Hey, how about Nebraska. How do we make
sure that only eligible listens vote here? What's say you?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, we took a look at the categories that were
laid out in the news release from Texas two weeks ago.
That yielded this one point one million number. We have
removed one hundred and seven thousand voters in those same categories.
(01:23):
So in Texas they removed one point one million over
a four year period of time. We removed one hundred
and seven thousand over a two year period of Time's
let's make that apples to apples. That's six point one
percent of the number of registered voters in Texas. Six
point one percent over four years. We've removed eight point
six eight point six percent over two years. So we're
(01:47):
paying attention. We're doing our job.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Here, excellent. Several listeners asked me to ask you some
specific things. I think these are good questions. How did
Nebraska driver's licenses issue to citizens and to illegal aliens
differ in Nebraska? This is from Brian.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, the DMV does not issue driver's licenses to illegal aliens.
The DMV issues driver's licenses to aliens who have registration
with the government of a certain status. And I guess,
you know, you could say they're illegals in the sense
that the doc of kids. Maybe I am overstating, because
(02:30):
it is it's clear that they're lawfully here. They're probably
not lawfully here and they're getting driver's licenses. But the
point is the DMV knows the difference. So now and
you go into the DMV, you have to demonstrate your
status citizen or non citizen, and if you're not a citizen,
you have to demonstrate your status to see whether you're
qualified under Nebraska statutes to get a driver's license. That
(02:51):
division between citizens and non citizens that has to be
shown when you get a driver's license or an ID.
That's what we use. That's one of the components of
what we use to determine citizenship in our voter registration VOTs.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Right, but if they're here legally can get a driver's license,
but are still not eligible to vote. So what is
there a designation on the license? So the pollar worker, there's.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
No obvious designation on the license. The numbering is different.
But the point is that the DMV teaps the data separate.
So if we and we use, the DMV shares their
data with us, so we can get access to the
DMV data and find out through that data who is
a non citizen. They keep track of that all, right,
(03:40):
and we use that DMV. We use that DMV data
registration database in our latest voter history voter file, and
those are the three databases we use. The DMV database
which shows who is a non citizen, voter registration database
which show who's registered to vote in our state, and
(04:02):
the latest voter History voter file, which shows who's actually
cast ballots.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So if someone is who's here illegally and has a
license but is not eligible to vote votes, you catch
that after the fact by checking the database.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, you can. You catch it after the fact. It's
also that the DMB does not forward those to us
for registration purposes, but it provides us after the fact.
We ran this last week, So can I I'm sorry
to do this at seven twenty in the morning or
at any time, because I'm going to talk a few numbers.
(04:42):
Can I do that?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yep? Sure.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
We had over three hundred and forty six thousand people
cast ballots in the primary. We had over three hundred
and forty six thousand voters cast ballots in the primary.
Ninety nine point seven percent of those voters we have
confirmed that they are US citizens.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Excellent.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We've confirmed that that ninety nine point seven percent of
our voters who cast ballots in the primary out of
these three hundred and forty six thousand ballots cast, they
were cast by citizens. Now that leaves a little over
one thousand people. Well for all but ninety three of them,
we don't have the data. See, so we run into
(05:25):
a data problem, and that's one of the things that
we're focusing on and trying to solve. Because I you know,
it's ninety nine point seven, that's great. I'd like us
to be at ninety nine point ninety nine. If you
take a look at if you take a look at
the total regilations, we have one million, two hundred and
(05:46):
forty one thousand Nebraskans registered to vote, and ninety eight
point seven percent of those we've confirmed are US citizens.
Ninety eight point seven percent of our one point two
four to one million registered voters we've confirmed with citizens. Okay,
(06:07):
so what about the rest. We don't have good data
on the rest. That's our problem is we're lacking data.
Now there are there is a category of registrates who
I'm who are number one on my list of concerns.
We have two hundred eighty two registered voters in the
state who registered to vote and subsequently told the DMV
(06:32):
that they are not a citizen, and that order is important.
There are two hundred and eighty two registered voters on
our roles out of our one point two four million,
two hundred eighty two registered voters on our roles who
registered to vote and subsequently told the DMV that they're
not a citizen. Of those two hundred eighty two registrants
(06:54):
whose registration is questionable because of what I just said,
forty six of them have actually cast ballots in any
election since they registered. So you're talking about forty six
people in this category who have actually cast ballots out
of the two hundred and eighty two who are registered. Now,
I'm going to be talking with the Attorney General's office
(07:17):
later this week because what we want to do now
is to investigate those two hundred and eighty two registrates.
And I want to talk with the Attorney General and
the statutes required anyway, but that's fine, I mean, that's
what you would do. I'm going to talk with the
Attorney General about how do we undertake an investigation into
(07:38):
those registrates.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Very good, quickly we're.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Going to be moving forward very good.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, I want to stay in touch on that too,
But also a couple other questions. Can you please ask
Bob how we are ensuring that ballots are not going
out to people who have passed away.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, we we've taken in the last two years, we've
taken over twenty four thousand registrants off the roles who
are deceased who passed away. The way that we do
it is we have a number of different sources that
we check in order to take de ceased voters off
(08:19):
the list, and we get that information from a variety
of sources. But we're watching that and we use obituaries,
we use Social Security and there are other databases as
well for taking people off after they've passed away.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Very good, Bob, I'm way along here, but I got
another great question from a lady. I'm going to forward
this to you via email so we can not ignore
that question. But for now, I got to move. I
appreciate the time so much. Always
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