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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Congressman Don Bacon joins us. Now, Don, good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Morning, Good morning Gary, and thank you for having me on.
I promise you come on lose.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah a lot of time. I know you did. You're
an officer and a gentleman. I appreciate that, and I
know it's been a short night for you. But what
can you tell us here with the results showing that
you are I had fifty one point four percent to
forty eight points six percent. It hasn't been made officially yet.
(00:29):
I guess what can you tell us?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, we're up two point eight percent over eight thousand votes,
and our you know it's our team tells me it's
statistically impossible to come back. So I just think it's
a matter of very short time when they call the race.
I want to thank the KFAB listeners out there and
all the all the voters for your support. Once again,
it was a tough race. I had not a single
(00:53):
poll showed me winning. Get internally, internally we thought we
were going to win by two and so. But we
have We have some good people that work for us,
and they're smart. But we worked our hardest and I
so much wanted to give the speech last night at
eleven o'clock, but it was too early, so we're going
to give the speech at ten o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Really remarkable. You mentioned nobody was predicting it because she had,
according and the pollsters, like an eleven point lead over
Trump or something like that. In district it turned out
to be more like five points. And uh, we thought we.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thought President Trump was going to lose by six is
what our numbers were. So my guys are a lot
closer than all the polsters.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
How does that work? I always hear about internal polls
from Canada's How does that work? You have you hire
your own posters or what.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We have my own poster. But I also have a
very good data guy, James Jeff and he is he studies,
He crunches. This guy crunches numbers every which right, So
it's more than just polling and studying precinct by Preecinc.
Plus we knocked on one hundred and sixty thousand doors. Wow, right,
So in other words, we get feedback from people we
(01:59):
kind of intact and so that's better than pulling. You know,
you get to get your polling. Plus you have your
own data of all these people you contact and you
put it in your your computer, and so we sew
like he thought I between two and three and that
Trump would lose.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
By six, and they were pretty much right on.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, my guy was My guy was the best.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right as it relates. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead and done.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But in the end it was hard work. I've worked
thirty eight days, strint, Gary, and I'm gonna take tomorrow waff.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, that's fine because we're going to ask you a
lot more of you after the twenty first of January.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Right now, in general, this is the number.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You have one hundred and ninety Republicans that have won
re election in the House, according to the Real Clear
Politics Latest to tally, one hundred and ninety Republicans, one
hundred and seventy two Democrats. That's three hundred and sixty
three seats that have been decided. We know that four
hundred and thirty five are in the United States House
of bread Presentatives. You need another twenty eight votes twenty
(03:05):
eight seats to get there. In California, I see the
GOP ahead in eight of the undecided and the Democrats
ahead in ten. If you don't win the House, it's
a good chance. Hakeem Jefferies is going to launch impeachment,
articles of impeachment against Donald Trump or not?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What say you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
O? There's definitely a hate for President Trump, which is unfortunate,
you know, the polarization where I mean, I don't what congressman,
I don't want to mention his name, so he's not
going to vote to certified period right as the president,
which is which our country's better than this. But the
good site is we're going to have the Senate and
we're going to have fifty two to fifty five senators
(03:44):
that are Republican, So no matter who runs the House,
we're going to have a balance of the Senate. And
I think in the end we're going to have to
work together because we're going to have as a minimum
of Republican House and a Republican or excuse me, a
Republican Senate, Republican president. They have a Democrat House. But
I think we're gonna maybe hold on, but it's gonna
be close.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah. Well, well the last time I heard, they last
I heard, the Republicans had flipped four, the Democrats that
flipped three. So rose in your math in California that
the Democrats are leading by two, right, and that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Holes and there are others though, I mean, there are
so few undecided numbers out there. This is some haven't
yet been certified. There are some, you know, house seats
in Texas, there are still on the East coast, there
are several in Illinois.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
But the main thing is, yeah, but you're gonna be
one of these guys that is really important, don because
you're one of these people that does buy partisan legislation.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And let's just be honest about it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
The President says, I'm going to deport five million people,
I'm gonna build a wall, I'm going to fix this
and fix that, and I'm going to get us out
of Ukraine and blah blah blah. It takes two houses
to make that happen. And if you've got a whole
bunch of Democrats who don't like this guy, how are
you going to pull this off?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, you got to. You got to figure out what
we can agree on and try to move that because
you can't force the Republican only solution in a divided government.
And even with even if you're not divide it, it's
all Republican. You have to get sixty votes in the Senate.
So I find you got to find what you can
agree on and move it forward. And it may not,
it may not be fulfilling, but I would rather take
(05:22):
sixty or seventy percent and get zero versus getting zero.
And a lot of my peers, if they can't get
ninety five percent, they'd rather have a zero. So I'm
the guy who tries to maximize a win. What's the
best we can get, move it and then well they
fight another day for the rest. And that's all I think.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Do you know Jamie Raskin, you ever work with him?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That? Yeah, that's who I was, That's who I was talking.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, congressman from Maryland.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He did.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What's he going to try to do on January sixth?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well he is, uh, you know, he's in the Judiciary committee.
He love the impeachment stuff against President Trump when they
had the majority. I know what. We came in together,
and it's wrong for him to say, no matter what
the voters society, I will not sure if I have
President Trump. It's he's one of these guys that has,
you know, the Trump Durrango syndrome. And I hope they
(06:12):
can put that behind him. We got to We've got
a country to run.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, he can't determine that obstructionists do exist in government. Well,
that's then it's going to be a dependent upon Donald Trump.
And candidly, don you and the president have not exactly
seen eye to eye on as many issues as say,
other representatives from the GOP. So what council would you
give the president given that that's a distinct possibility the
(06:37):
Jamie Raskin and I King Jefferies are going to run
the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Always a courage the president to focus on issues, and
I'm more about adding versus subtracting. I always find that
he likes to go on the attack, and he gets
mad and it goes on the attack. Whereas in proverbs,
you know, it says you'll be slow to anger, love
your love your enemies, and I just try to urge.
My job is to encourage him to think long term
(07:05):
and try to grow your grow your majority, grow some
allies on the Democrat side. Don't always strike back, because
when you strike back, all you do is to create
a fight that because they'll come back at you. So
he called it two months ago. I think I may
assured this on an earlier call on that's my advice.
Grow your team, don't build build allies, try to build
(07:28):
friends across the aisle, and focus on issues. It's not personalities, right,
That's all I hope he does.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But for now it's it's it's a celebratory mood for
republisher for sure. Don, thanks so much forgetting up early
with us. We do I know, it's the late night
Don Bacon AB's morning news
Congressman Don Bacon joins us. Now, Don, good.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Morning, Good morning Gary, and thank you for having me on.
I promise you come on lose.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah a lot of time. I know you did. You're
an officer and a gentleman. I appreciate that, and I
know it's been a short night for you. But what
can you tell us here with the results showing that
you are I had fifty one point four percent to
forty eight points six percent. It hasn't been made officially yet.
(00:29):
I guess what can you tell us?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, we're up two point eight percent over eight thousand votes,
and our you know it's our team tells me it's
statistically impossible to come back. So I just think it's
a matter of very short time when they call the race.
I want to thank the KFAB listeners out there and
all the all the voters for your support. Once again,
it was a tough race. I had not a single
(00:53):
poll showed me winning. Get internally, internally we thought we
were going to win by two and so. But we
have We have some good people that work for us,
and they're smart. But we worked our hardest and I
so much wanted to give the speech last night at
eleven o'clock, but it was too early, so we're going
to give the speech at ten o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Really remarkable. You mentioned nobody was predicting it because she had,
according and the pollsters, like an eleven point lead over
Trump or something like that. In district it turned out
to be more like five points. And uh, we thought we.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thought President Trump was going to lose by six is
what our numbers were. So my guys are a lot
closer than all the polsters.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
How does that work? I always hear about internal polls
from Canada's How does that work? You have you hire
your own posters or what.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We have my own poster. But I also have a
very good data guy, James Jeff and he is he studies,
He crunches. This guy crunches numbers every which right, So
it's more than just polling and studying precinct by Preecinc.
Plus we knocked on one hundred and sixty thousand doors. Wow, right,
So in other words, we get feedback from people we
(01:59):
kind of intact and so that's better than pulling. You know,
you get to get your polling. Plus you have your
own data of all these people you contact and you
put it in your your computer, and so we sew
like he thought I between two and three and that
Trump would lose.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
By six, and they were pretty much right on.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yeah, my guy was My guy was the best.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right as it relates. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead and done.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But in the end it was hard work. I've worked
thirty eight days, strint, Gary, and I'm gonna take tomorrow waff.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, that's fine because we're going to ask you a
lot more of you after the twenty first of January.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Right now, in general, this is the number.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
You have one hundred and ninety Republicans that have won
re election in the House, according to the Real Clear
Politics Latest to tally, one hundred and ninety Republicans, one
hundred and seventy two Democrats. That's three hundred and sixty
three seats that have been decided. We know that four
hundred and thirty five are in the United States House
of bread Presentatives. You need another twenty eight votes twenty
(03:05):
eight seats to get there. In California, I see the
GOP ahead in eight of the undecided and the Democrats
ahead in ten. If you don't win the House, it's
a good chance. Hakeem Jefferies is going to launch impeachment,
articles of impeachment against Donald Trump or not?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
What say you.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
O? There's definitely a hate for President Trump, which is unfortunate,
you know, the polarization where I mean, I don't what congressman,
I don't want to mention his name, so he's not
going to vote to certified period right as the president,
which is which our country's better than this. But the
good site is we're going to have the Senate and
we're going to have fifty two to fifty five senators
(03:44):
that are Republican, So no matter who runs the House,
we're going to have a balance of the Senate. And
I think in the end we're going to have to
work together because we're going to have as a minimum
of Republican House and a Republican or excuse me, a
Republican Senate, Republican president. They have a Democrat House. But
I think we're gonna maybe hold on, but it's gonna
be close.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah. Well, well the last time I heard, they last
I heard, the Republicans had flipped four, the Democrats that
flipped three. So rose in your math in California that
the Democrats are leading by two, right, and that.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Holes and there are others though, I mean, there are
so few undecided numbers out there. This is some haven't
yet been certified. There are some, you know, house seats
in Texas, there are still on the East coast, there
are several in Illinois.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
But the main thing is, yeah, but you're gonna be
one of these guys that is really important, don because
you're one of these people that does buy partisan legislation.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And let's just be honest about it.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
The President says, I'm going to deport five million people,
I'm gonna build a wall, I'm going to fix this
and fix that, and I'm going to get us out
of Ukraine and blah blah blah. It takes two houses
to make that happen. And if you've got a whole
bunch of Democrats who don't like this guy, how are
you going to pull this off?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, you got to. You got to figure out what
we can agree on and try to move that because
you can't force the Republican only solution in a divided government.
And even with even if you're not divide it, it's
all Republican. You have to get sixty votes in the Senate.
So I find you got to find what you can
agree on and move it forward. And it may not,
it may not be fulfilling, but I would rather take
(05:22):
sixty or seventy percent and get zero versus getting zero.
And a lot of my peers, if they can't get
ninety five percent, they'd rather have a zero. So I'm
the guy who tries to maximize a win. What's the
best we can get, move it and then well they
fight another day for the rest. And that's all I think.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Do you know Jamie Raskin, you ever work with him?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That? Yeah, that's who I was, That's who I was talking.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, congressman from Maryland.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He did.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
What's he going to try to do on January sixth?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well he is, uh, you know, he's in the Judiciary committee.
He love the impeachment stuff against President Trump when they
had the majority. I know what. We came in together,
and it's wrong for him to say, no matter what
the voters society, I will not sure if I have
President Trump. It's he's one of these guys that has,
you know, the Trump Durrango syndrome. And I hope they
(06:12):
can put that behind him. We got to We've got
a country to run.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, he can't determine that obstructionists do exist in government. Well,
that's then it's going to be a dependent upon Donald Trump.
And candidly, don you and the president have not exactly
seen eye to eye on as many issues as say,
other representatives from the GOP. So what council would you
give the president given that that's a distinct possibility the
(06:37):
Jamie Raskin and I King Jefferies are going to run
the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Always a courage the president to focus on issues, and
I'm more about adding versus subtracting. I always find that
he likes to go on the attack, and he gets
mad and it goes on the attack. Whereas in proverbs,
you know, it says you'll be slow to anger, love
your love your enemies, and I just try to urge.
My job is to encourage him to think long term
(07:05):
and try to grow your grow your majority, grow some
allies on the Democrat side. Don't always strike back, because
when you strike back, all you do is to create
a fight that because they'll come back at you. So
he called it two months ago. I think I may
assured this on an earlier call on that's my advice.
Grow your team, don't build build allies, try to build
(07:28):
friends across the aisle, and focus on issues. It's not personalities, right,
That's all I hope he does.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But for now it's it's it's a celebratory mood for
republisher for sure. Don, thanks so much forgetting up early
with us. We do I know, it's the late night
Don Bacon AB's morning news
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